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McShay's First Mock

badboy said:
How do you and Mussop respond to criticism that Dwyer is a "system" player? He certainly runs towards the goal and has had three years of very high avg per attempt. I replaced him on my board with Gerhart as I think Dwyer will go in 2nd before we pick.
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He is somewhere between Marion Barber/Jonathan Stewart. Best utilized in stretch zone, I would focus on his 40 splits & shuttle times @ combine to measure just how explosive he is from a standstill. Does not appear to be as explosive as Jonathan but more so than Marion. Takes on tackler/hits not elusive, should come out & not risk injury. would take Gerhart because Toby has better balance & footwork in tight space.
 
mussop said:
For all you guys that want a big back check out Ryan Matthews RB Fresno State. I dont know know why he doesnt get more talk here.
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I started a thread here about him last year but it died down after he got hurt.

He doesn't get the respect he deserves. If I had to guess I would say it is because he plays in the WAC.

I think he's great.
 
Earl Thomas wouldn't be my first choice in the 1st round, that would be Joe Haden, but I could live with the pick.
 
It's weird to me that last year taylor mays was gonna be the next ronnie lott
Now he's only the 3rd best s in the draft I love mock drafts but they are based a lot on the opinion of the person doing the mock
 
Have the Texans ever taken a safety in the first three rounds? I know aside from Hollings (*gag*), we've never taken a back too highly.

OFFENSE

QB: high investment
WR: high investment (AJ, 3rd rd. JJ)
TE: no high investment (not really necessary for this position)
OL: high investment (Pitts 2nd, Brown 1st, Winston 3rd, Caldwell 3rd)
RB: sort of? (Slaton taken in bottom of 3rd, but no one expected franchise back)

DEFENSE

DL: high investment (Mario 1st, Okoye 1st, TJ 1st, Babin 1st+, Weaver high dollar FA, Antonio Smith high dollar FA, Barwin 2nd) LOL, that's just sad.
LB: high investment (Demeco 2nd, Cushing 1st, Adibi 3rd?)
CB: high investment (Robinson 1st and $10 million, Reeves FA signing, Molden 3rd or 4th? iffy)
S: no one - ever
 
treduke said:
It's weird to me that last year taylor mays was gonna be the next ronnie lott
Now he's only the 3rd best s in the draft I love mock drafts but they are based a lot on the opinion of the person doing the mock
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Most of that projection was based on his measurables. He really hurt himself going back to school this year. His play has been average at best. For all his measurables he isnt a big hitter and doesnt show above average ball hawking skills.

I bet anything we will be hearing alot of talk about him as an OLB at the combine.
 
eriadoc said:
Have the Texans ever taken a safety in the first three rounds? I know aside from Hollings (*gag*), we've never taken a back too highly.

OFFENSE

QB: high investment
WR: high investment (AJ, 3rd rd. JJ)
TE: no high investment (not really necessary for this position)
OL: high investment (Pitts 2nd, Brown 1st, Winston 3rd, Caldwell 3rd)
RB: sort of? (Slaton taken in bottom of 3rd, but no one expected franchise back)

DEFENSE

DL: high investment (Mario 1st, Okoye 1st, TJ 1st, Babin 1st+, Weaver high dollar FA, Antonio Smith high dollar FA, Barwin 2nd) LOL, that's just sad.
LB: high investment (Demeco 2nd, Cushing 1st, Adibi 3rd?)
CB: high investment (Robinson 1st and $10 million, Reeves FA signing, Molden 3rd or 4th? iffy)
S: no one - ever
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We hadn't taken a OL in the 1st round until last year so stranger things have happened.

And given the impact that Pollard made to the back 7, maybe they've learned that you can't keep getting DBs off the clearance rack and expect to win. We can only hope.
I wanna see stud OGs and DBs this draft. This draft is somewhat light in the RB dept.
 
Vinny said:
Taylor Mays is the 3rd S in the draft? This must be a hell of a draft year for the S position.
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Weaknesses:
Takes false steps in coverage and poor angles
Lacks instincts
Zero ball skills
Not much of a playmaker
Poor tackling technique; throws body around without using arms/hands to wrap up
Hasn't improved his weaknesses going back to sophomore season
Occasionally not in position
Plays out of control
More of an athlete than a football player

Summary: Mays isn't a free safety at the next level; no chance he pans out there because he is horrible in coverage and has zero ball skills. Mays idea of playing football is running and throwing his body around, which is why I am giving him the nickname “The Trojan Torpedo.” I think Mays can start at strong safety for some team, but he will be pretty average. Mays is the Vernon Gholston of safety prospects. Sure he has great measurables, but so did Gholston. I personally wouldn't draft Mays in the top 40 picks, but his draft range is all over the board. He could go top five to a team like Oakland or he could fall to the lower part of the first round.

Player Comparison: Roy L. Williams. It's like someone cloned Roy Williams; Mays and Williams are the EXACT same player. Mays will struggle greatly in coverage at the next level, but he hits hard and is good in run support. Buyer beware.
 
mussop said:
Weaknesses:
Takes false steps in coverage and poor angles
Lacks instincts
Zero ball skills
Not much of a playmaker
Poor tackling technique; throws body around without using arms/hands to wrap up
Hasn't improved his weaknesses going back to sophomore season
Occasionally not in position
Plays out of control
More of an athlete than a football player

Summary: Mays isn't a free safety at the next level; no chance he pans out there because he is horrible in coverage and has zero ball skills. Mays idea of playing football is running and throwing his body around, which is why I am giving him the nickname “The Trojan Torpedo.” I think Mays can start at strong safety for some team, but he will be pretty average. Mays is the Vernon Gholston of safety prospects. Sure he has great measurables, but so did Gholston. I personally wouldn't draft Mays in the top 40 picks, but his draft range is all over the board. He could go top five to a team like Oakland or he could fall to the lower part of the first round.

Player Comparison: Roy L. Williams. It's like someone cloned Roy Williams; Mays and Williams are the EXACT same player. Mays will struggle greatly in coverage at the next level, but he hits hard and is good in run support. Buyer beware.
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I agree. If a team were to move him to WLB and bulk him up a little he'd probably be great at the position.
 
Mr. White said:
Just imagine what kind of damage Earl Thomas could do on this defense.

Our D-Line couldn't help but get sacks.
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um...it usually works the other way around, & i don't recall hearing anything about Earl Thomas until this year, which makes me wonder about him..
 
Mr teX said:
um...it usually works the other way around, & i don't recall hearing anything about Earl Thomas until this year, which makes me wonder about him..
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Really? He had a breakout game as a freshman last year in the Red River Shootout, grabbing two interceptions and breaking up a few other passes. He was a special teams stud and by the end of the season was widely viewed as a player to watch by many of the college football writers and coaches. Some players come out of nowhere to dominate, but that's not the case with Earl Thomas. He's a stud and I would love to see him in a Texans jersey.
 
Mr teX said:
um...it usually works the other way around, & i don't recall hearing anything about Earl Thomas until this year, which makes me wonder about him..
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He was a Freshman All American last season so maybe you just weren't listening very well.
 
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