McNair is obviously the problem!

[ATX_Texan]

Two years ago there were plenty of unhappy folks around here because of the the Babin pick. At that time, the "don't worry just be happy we have football" crowd tried to sell everyone that the Texans just got the next Kevin Greene. Two years later and we are still waiting for his arrival.

Last year, the Texans passed on more proven talent to draft one Travis Johnson. Once again, the masses were unhappy because of the reports of him not playing with maximum effort in every game. These same "don't care just let me tailgate" people argued that the Texans got their new run stopping sensation. I don't seem to recall TJ getting many rookie of year votes.

This year, we have Mario Williams who if I read all the hype here will be the next Julius Peppers or Jevon Kearse. Somehow, this all seems way too familiar based on the draft experience of the last two seasons. Of course, you want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. However, I am worried when I read Peter King on CNNSI:

I've heard a lot of good things about Williams from people I trust, including that he'll be a great NFL end either in a 3-4 or in the 4-3. But I can also tell you this: Two of the teams with a top five pick in the draft were scared of him because of his up-and-down play over three years.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/04/30/mmqb.draft/1.html

I would like to add that this is not the only report like this that has come out about this guy.

Once again, the Texans have chosen a guy, who was an underachiever and inconsistent, that made a big splash for a short period of time against mainly iinferior oppenents. If the FO had a good history of taking these high risk and high reward guys and succeeding it would be one thing. However, the Texans cannot really boast about their past record. So, forgive us if some people are really skeptical about the latest greatest super star that is being sold here. Mario is not the sure thing that some people want to believe.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Johnson was the 16th pick in the draft and Babin was the 29th. Expectations were set by coaches who are no longer here. Moreover, we have a new scheme. Go ahead and try to make parallels all you like between Williams and the other two, but they are all different situations. The only constant in trying to hammer this notion is that people are upset that VY and Bush are not on the roster. Go after the front office and staff, but do not go after the players until we see how they react to the new scheme and how they play on the field.

 

[chuckm]

But hey I will drink the Kool-Aid but it is better than drinking burnt orange Fool-Aid.

LOL ..... my Monday morning fog just lifted .... thanks KT

 

[kingh99]

Two years ago there were plenty of unhappy folks around here because of the the Babin pick. At that time, the "don't worry just be happy we have football" crowd tried to sell everyone that the Texans just got the next Kevin Greene. Two years later and we are still waiting for his arrival.

Last year, the Texans passed on more proven talent to draft one Travis Johnson. Once again, the masses were unhappy because of the reports of him not playing with maximum effort in every game. These same "don't care just let me tailgate" people argued that the Texans got their new run stopping sensation. I don't seem to recall TJ getting many rookie of year votes.

This year, we have Mario Williams who if I read all the hype here will be the next Julius Peppers or Jevon Kearse. Somehow, this all seems way too familiar based on the draft experience of the last two seasons. Of course, you want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. However, I am worried when I read Peter King on CNNSI:



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/04/30/mmqb.draft/1.html

I would like to add that this is not the only report like this that has come out about this guy.

Once again, the Texans have chosen a guy, who was an underachiever and inconsistent, that made a big splash for a short period of time against mainly iinferior oppenents. If the FO had a good history of taking these high risk and high reward guys and succeeding it would be one thing. However, the Texans cannot really boast about their past record. So, forgive us if some people are really skeptical about the latest greatest super star that is being sold here. Mario is not the sure thing that some people want to believe.

I hope he didn't just fool the Texans, Kelvin Cato-style. Remember Kelvin Cato? He had a suspect work ethic but showed up at the Rocket's facility a changed man. Why I heard he swatted back 6 balls at that first practice. Mgmt rubbed their hands gleefully at the way they had just gotten over. Then they locked him up for 5 years. That was the last we heard of Kelvin Cato. I hope this guy didn't put out for a contract as well.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

I hope he didn't just fool the Texans, Kelvin Cato-style. Remember Kelvin Cato? He had a suspect work ethic but showed up at the Rocket's facility a changed man. Why I heard he swatted back 6 balls at that first practice. Mgmt rubbed their hands gleefully at the way they had just gotten over. Then they locked him up for 5 years. That was the last we heard of Kelvin Cato. I hope this guy didn't put out for a contract as well.

The difference is that Cato plays in the NBA and would have received guaranteed money for his first contract on a per annual basis. Moreover, he was not taken with the #1 pick in the draft. The NFL at least gives you more latitude in how you disperse that signing bonus.

 

[Texans86]

Sometimes I wish I went to Notre Dame, to see how fans get excited no matter how bad the team is. This past year they had a great season, but had weak ones in recent history. They never gave up on the team. Sold out tickets for years to come. I've heard the same thing happens in Green Bay and I think Kansas City. Our team can be so much better when the fans get behind them no matter what. Does anyone remember the first game we ever played? We beat Dallas and the crowd went through the roof. The guys had so much adrenaline that they beat the more talented team. C'mon Houston, give the team the support they need to be the best.

(Besides, with the imposing size of the stadium, other teams might not like to come to our stadium. I know teams hate going to Kansas City because the fans are so crazy.)

 

[Blake]

Sometimes I wish I went to Notre Dame, to see how fans get excited no matter how bad the team is. This past year they had a great season, but had weak ones in recent history. They never gave up on the team. Sold out tickets for years to come.

Houston, with very few exceptions, is not South Bend. We have 4 years of tradition, vs. their 264 years of tradition.

But I understand your point. I too would like a fan base that doesnt sway with the winds of change.

 

[Texans86]

Houston, with very few exceptions, is not South Bend. We have 4 years of tradition, vs. their 264 years of tradition.

But I understand your point. I too would like a fan base that doesnt sway with the winds of change.

That's the point I was trying to get across.

 

[Vambo, the Marble Eye]

for the next season Williams will be compared to Bush and Vince Young......wouldn't it be funny if Vince turned out to be the next Aaron Brookes.

Aaron Brooks is borderline retarded... so what IS Vince Young's metal ability when it is all said and done?

This is the pros, so just being a great athlete just isn't going to be good enough. ALL of these draft choices are going to get their head around that fact the first time they put the pads on in training camp.

 

[Double Barrel]

Mario is not the sure thing that some people want to believe.

And neither is Reggie Bush (or Vince Young, for that matter).

Drink your koolaide, foolaide, or hatorade. We drink because we're thirsty, and we're thirsty because it is a passion and we care.

There is room for all voices and opinions in the Texans fandom.