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Marshawn Lynch, what I think...

Speedy said:
You work for a company and part of that company's job requirement is to talk to the media. So talk to the media or find another job.

I do get the player's perspective though. Reporters are idiots and ask a lot of stupid questions, repeat questions and so on. You get taken out of context at times just so that reporter can generate clicks to a website and things of that nature, so I get not wanting to put yourself out there.

But, the NFL company requires it so you've got to do it.
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The NFL says talk to the media or receive a fine. Not be fired! So Lynch opted for the fine. He had that option, he chose it.
 
I like all of the sports media world freaking out about it and making it seem like they're a gift to the athletes and not just a nuisance as a part of the job.

In all reality though, Marshawn probably has some sort of social anxiety and that isn't to be taken lightly. If he's not comfortable talking in front of 100 people, he shouldn't have to.
 
Remember how we felt when Arian pulled his, "I'm just trying to be the best teammate I can be."

For us, Marshawn Lynch isn't a big deal, because we couldn't care less what he thinks... most of us. But that guy has fans, people who want to know what makes him tick, someone who may even be able to use his story to straighten their lives out, who knows?

But it's the fans that make the NFL & to me, this is no different than some stuck up "star" refusing to sign an autograph.
 
Double Barrel said:
I think he's being a little punk about it. Dude gets paid millions to play a kid's game. Just do the freakin' interviews for the fans that buy your merch. Everyone else knows the business, but this guy thinks he's special and above it. I lost respect for the guy after yesterday. Something about it just rubbed me the wrong way. It is a very chump attitude, IMO.
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Showtime100 said:
There you go again, articulating my thoughts better than I would have. :kingkong: :D
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DB tends to do that a lot to myself as well.

I think the dude's one of, if not the, best RBs in the league when he wants to be. He's relentless with the ball in his hands.

Like DB said, his antics towards the media and grabbing his package on national TV has hurt his image more than help it. Unless you're a thuggy, swaggy...or whatev the slang is theses days, kind of guy.

All that said, I'm not giving the media a pass either. These fools are running up to his podium to question him when they know darn well what he's going to do. Then they get all butt hurt when he doesn't answer their stupid questions. Then you have espn and NFLN airing the BS for hours after he acts a fool.

:endrant:
 
Greg Koch & ND Kalu just aired a great interview with Delanie Walker. Good questions, very informative.
 
thunderkyss said:
Remember how we felt when Arian pulled his, "I'm just trying to be the best teammate I can be."

For us, Marshawn Lynch isn't a big deal, because we couldn't care less what he thinks... most of us. But that guy has fans, people who want to know what makes him tick, someone who may even be able to use his story to straighten their lives out, who knows?

But it's the fans that make the NFL & to me, this is no different than some stuck up "star" refusing to sign an autograph.
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I see what you're saying, but he has the right to refuse talking to the media if he feels like it. It doesn't bother me with Foster and it doesn't bother me with him. I just don't want to become this fan:

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infantrycak said:
The right? That's like saying you have the right to steal cars if you're willing to do 5 years in jail.
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I should have said he has the right to say the same thing over and over like Foster does to the media. If he's not comfortable in front of the media, so be it. Doesn't bother me one bit as long as he produces on the field.
 
HOU-TEX said:
DB tends to do that a lot to myself as well.

I think the dude's one of, if not the, best RBs in the league when he wants to be. He's relentless with the ball in his hands.

Like DB said, his antics towards the media and grabbing his package on national TV has hurt his image more than help it. Unless you're a thuggy, swaggy...or whatev the slang is theses days, kind of guy.

All that said, I'm not giving the media a pass either. These fools are running up to his podium to question him when they know darn well what he's going to do. Then they get all butt hurt when he doesn't answer their stupid questions. Then you have espn and NFLN airing the BS for hours after he acts a fool.

:endrant:
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I generally agree with you about modern media. Too often they create stories from little and sensationalize things to the point of regurgitated redundancy.

All that said, the media is part of the gigantic machine that helps pump the NFL into the 10 billion dollar entertainment empire that we see today.

And what Marshawn Lynch has to understand is that his massive salaries are a direct result of that entertainment machine. The hype, gloss, and constant publicity is part of what drives that engine, and he is a direct beneficiary of it.

We all have to do things in our jobs that we dread. Why should he be excluded from a basic job requirement of an entertainment industry? 100 other players in this game understand the dynamics, so what makes him special? There is an arrogance about it that just rubs me the wrong way.

Maybe he's a great guy in real life and really believes in his charities. I don't know the man. But, like Warren Sapp said last night, why not use this international media platform to further your causes? Why not use this exposure to help those less fortunate? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. Fine, don't like the media, but use the system to your advantage instead of being a diva and acting like you are better than everyone else. That is how he is coming across to many of us.

Of course, he has no problem in using that same media platform to push his brand. And now he's butthurt because the league could fine him for it.
 
Double Barrel said:
And what Marshawn Lynch has to understand is that his massive salaries are a direct result of that entertainment machine. The hype, gloss, and constant publicity is part of what drives that engine, and he is a direct beneficiary of it.
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And he does understand that and try to benefit from it. He was wearing a hat from his new Beast Mode clothing line.
 
infantrycak said:
And he does understand that and try to benefit from it. He was wearing a hat from his new Beast Mode clothing line.
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yep, that's what I was talking about with my last point, and the reason why I don't buy that he's unable to speak to the media. He's just being an arrogant diva, at least that's my perception from the outside looking in.

And now I hear that he's whining because the league could fine him for promoting a product that was not approved by the NFL.
 
I just saw an interview that Lynch had with Deion Sanders. He didn't talk a lot but answered the questions.
 
StarStruck said:
I heard that his beef was more with being burned by media taking what he said out of context to suit their purpose while making him look like a jerk. If true I understand. I think being burned by media not only pisses you off but also makes one more cautious.
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Wasn't Arian Foster butthurt with the local media because of the whole "forced abortion" thing? If I remember right, he still talked to national press.

Lynch seems to be the opposite, and doesn't like the national guys.
 
Really he lets his running do the talking. They do not call him Beast Mode for nothing!
 
It's in his contract. He needs to sit down and answer the questions.

Now, how he answers those questions are up to him. And if the reporters don't find his answers informative or entertaining then they should go ask questions to someone else.

That's where I stand at least. I think the way he behaves is childish but I think the media has handled this even worse than he has.
 
thunderkyss said:
Remember how we felt when Arian pulled his, "I'm just trying to be the best teammate I can be."

For us, Marshawn Lynch isn't a big deal, because we couldn't care less what he thinks... most of us. But that guy has fans, people who want to know what makes him tick, someone who may even be able to use his story to straighten their lives out, who knows?

But it's the fans that make the NFL & to me, this is no different than some stuck up "star" refusing to sign an autograph.
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Maybe there are fans that want to know what motivates Lynch, what his favorite movies are, what cereal he likes to eat for breakfast, does he like dogs or cats, blah, blah, blah. What does he think about Roger Goodell, I don't think we actually need to hear him verbalize what he thinks of Goodell to know the answer to that question. But for the majority of Seahawks fans every time he breaks a tackle for a long gain and every time he helps them win, and every time he carries the ball in yet another Super Bowl, the frustration over him not answering stupid senseless questions by a media that's just looking for attention for themselves vanish.

When Foster was pulling his little nonsense with the media it was after another injury plagued season in which he had a severe image problem on a team that just went 2-14. Had the Texans just won a Super Bowl and he was a big part of it, like Lynch was for Seattle last year, few would give a rats behind that he was playing games with the media.

I don't know any Seahawks fans but I imagine more of them find it amusing when Lynch sticks it to the current commissioner than find it irritating that he doesn't play nice to the national media.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think Lynch is telling the fans F.U. every time he refuses to answer the media's questions.

I don't understand how some fans are all on his side about this whole thing. Like McClain says... he could care less what Marshawn Lynch has to say. The reporters are there asking the questions for the fans.

If I were the NFL, I'd hold it against the NFLPA. Tell them to get their player in check, or be in breach of contract.
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That made me laugh. The reporters are there to get stories for themselves and creating them through the creation of controversy at pressers is often their tool of choice.

Kudo's to Lynch. Take the righteous stand against the enemy and give them nothing to work with except your rejection of their kind.

My repetitious line would be, "That's none of your business." I would repeat that after every inane and stupid question which would be almost all, if not all of them.

Another way of doing this in a humorous manner is to type out ten stale answers on a card and answer every question with only the number.

Reporter: What did you think about your run to the end zone?

Lynch: Number 3 ( I couldn't do anything without the help of my team mates and coaches.)

Reporter; Boxers or briefs?

Lynch: Number 2 (That's none of your business)

and so on and so forth.
 
Marshall said:
That made me laugh. The reporters are there to get stories for themselves and creating them through the creation of controversy at pressers is often their tool of choice.
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I've been listening to 610 & 790 all week & there have been nothing but one great interview after another with all kinds of players. I'm thankful that those guys are out there participating in those interviews.
 
thunderkyss said:
I've been listening to 610 & 790 all week & there have been nothing but one great interview after another with all kinds of players. I'm thankful that those guys are out there participating in those interviews.
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Voluntary interviews are usually entertaining.

I propose that the NFL simply adopt the freedom agenda for it's players and stop trying to placate the rogue press by imposing MANDATORY INTERVIEWS and MANDATORY CONFERENCES on the players and coaches. Perhaps just create a position of Press Relations so lazy and worthless reporters can get their daily bowl of porridge spoon fed to them. The good reporters have no need of them.
 
Marshall said:
Voluntary interviews are usually entertaining.

I propose that the NFL simply adopt the freedom agenda for it's players and stop trying to placate the rogue press by imposing MANDATORY INTERVIEWS and MANDATORY CONFERENCES on the players and coaches. Perhaps just create a position of Press Relations so lazy and worthless reporters can get their daily bowl of porridge spoon fed to them. The good reporters have no need of them.
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I don't think the NFL is trying to placate "the rogue press." The NFL knows it's the fans that makes this thing go, so they're trying to get the players the fans want to see & hear from in front of the media.

It's something that is negotiated & agreed upon in the CBA, so if players like Marshawn Lynch don't want to do interviews, they need to talk to their NFLPA representative & get it taken out or modified.

Until then, they need to hold up their end of the bargain & the way they are "making themselves available" should reflect poorly on the NFLPA, my opinion. If I were the NFL, I'd put pressure on the NFLPA to fix this problem instead of fining the individual players. The NFLPA obviously don't care if the NFL fines players, let's see how fast they fix it if the NFL fines the NFLPA, or hold some kind of sanctions against them.
 
Double Barrel said:
I generally agree with you about modern media. Too often they create stories from little and sensationalize things to the point of regurgitated redundancy.

All that said, the media is part of the gigantic machine that helps pump the NFL into the 10 billion dollar entertainment empire that we see today.

And what Marshawn Lynch has to understand is that his massive salaries are a direct result of that entertainment machine. The hype, gloss, and constant publicity is part of what drives that engine, and he is a direct beneficiary of it.

We all have to do things in our jobs that we dread. Why should he be excluded from a basic job requirement of an entertainment industry? 100 other players in this game understand the dynamics, so what makes him special? There is an arrogance about it that just rubs me the wrong way.

Maybe he's a great guy in real life and really believes in his charities. I don't know the man. But, like Warren Sapp said last night, why not use this international media platform to further your causes? Why not use this exposure to help those less fortunate? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. Fine, don't like the media, but use the system to your advantage instead of being a diva and acting like you are better than everyone else. That is how he is coming across to many of us.

Of course, he has no problem in using that same media platform to push his brand. And now he's butthurt because the league could fine him for it.
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Well said, DB. You're right, but the media will always drive me nuts. They tend to take something and run with it until that horse is beaten to hamburger meat. Ha
 
HOU-TEX said:
Well said, DB. You're right, but the media will always drive me nuts. They tend to take something and run with it until that horse is beaten to hamburger meat. Ha
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It's still a reflection of people/fans more than the media. If fans agreed media was flogging things too much they'd stop watching and the media would move on. That's the fallacy in blaming the media. Fans can control what remains a story - stop watching, the media is ratings driven.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't think the NFL is trying to placate "the rogue press." The NFL knows it's the fans that makes this thing go, so they're trying to get the players the fans want to see & hear from in front of the media.

It's something that is negotiated & agreed upon in the CBA, so if players like Marshawn Lynch don't want to do interviews, they need to talk to their NFLPA representative & get it taken out or modified.

Until then, they need to hold up their end of the bargain & the way they are "making themselves available" should reflect poorly on the NFLPA, my opinion. If I were the NFL, I'd put pressure on the NFLPA to fix this problem instead of fining the individual players. The NFLPA obviously don't care if the NFL fines players, let's see how fast they fix it if the NFL fines the NFLPA, or hold some kind of sanctions against them.
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The NFLPA would never permit the organization itself to be subject to the whims of the NFL like it permits of players it purports to represent. As long as it is permitted to mitigate penalties to show players they have some value, they don't need to stand firmly behind their players. It really is almost all about the money.
 
thunderkyss said:
Until then, they need to hold up their end of the bargain & the way they are "making themselves available" should reflect poorly on the NFLPA, my opinion. If I were the NFL, I'd put pressure on the NFLPA to fix this problem instead of fining the individual players. The NFLPA obviously don't care if the NFL fines players, let's see how fast they fix it if the NFL fines the NFLPA, or hold some kind of sanctions against them.
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Marshall said:
The NFLPA would never permit the organization itself to be subject to the whims of the NFL like it permits of players it purports to represent. As long as it is permitted to mitigate penalties to show players they have some value, they don't need to stand firmly behind their players. It really is almost all about the money.
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All this **** is contractual. The NFLPA and NFL have no contract between them. The NFL can't fine the NFLPA.

Also, it's incredibly bad policy to fine a person/entity who has no power to compel wrt the offensive conduct. The NFLPA can suggest players do things but they have no power to tell Lynch or any other player how to deal with the press.
 
infantrycak said:
It's still a reflection of people/fans more than the media. If fans agreed media was flogging things too much they'd stop watching and the media would move on. That's the fallacy in blaming the media. Fans can control what remains a story - stop watching, the media is ratings driven.
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Indeed. The media is all about 'give the people what they want', which is a direct correlation to the modern news industry and its sensationalist presentation of soundbites.

I used to sort of be on Lynch's side of things when he was presented as a introverted personality that had some kind of pseudo-psychological reasoning behind his attitude with the press.

Then, I realized that's all just unadulterated B.S. and it's just an act on his part. Nothing but an act. So at that point, he's playing a game and putting himself out there for opinions.
 
infantrycak said:
All this **** is contractual. The NFLPA and NFL have no contract between them. The NFL can't fine the NFLPA.

Also, it's incredibly bad policy to fine a person/entity who has no power to compel wrt the offensive conduct. The NFLPA can suggest players do things but they have no power to tell Lynch or any other player how to deal with the press.
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It sure is. But just like Congress exempts themselves from the laws they pass for everyone else, the NFLPA would never live under the agreement that it writes for the players nor should it. But neither should the players when it comes to things like speaking or not and that is a great failure by the NFLPA.
 
Marshall said:
But neither should the players when it comes to things like speaking or not and that is a great failure by the NFLPA.
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There's no failure by the NFLPA. People are expected to speak if need be for their companies when they make $30k a year. It doesn't even have to be written into their contracts. It's do it or get fired. This bunch of whiney pissants can sure as hell spend a few minutes talking to the people who generate the billions they receive in salaries.
 
infantrycak said:
There's no failure by the NFLPA. People are expected to speak if need be for their companies when they make $30k a year. It doesn't even have to be written into their contracts. It's do it or get fired. This bunch of whiney pissants can sure as hell spend a few minutes talking to the people who generate the billions they receive in salaries.
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oh come on, that's a stretch...

The $30-50K technician isn't expected to speak to the national press on behalf of his company. The 150K/yr exec might be expected to. If the tech knows something that needs to be communicated in a press release or statement to the press, he/she will brief his supervisor who will, in turn, brief the exec who will sanitize it and translate it to company speak at said press conference.

If there's a murder case that the press is covering, it's usually the precinct sgt or local chief that fields questions from the press, not the detectives doing the investigation.

regular $30K/yr Joe Schmoes don't talk to the press, their bosses do
 
Should you have to talk on T.V. if you don't want to or have to pay? I don't know. I guess so if you sign a contract which states you have to do so up front. But, on the other hand should talking on T.V. or radio be a must? There are a few ways to look at this matter. The grabbing of the crotch is what I have more of an issue with to be honest. Having met Lynch before he is very quiet and shy but he was very nice and spent some time chatting with me.
 
infantrycak said:
There's no failure by the NFLPA. People are expected to speak if need be for their companies when they make $30k a year. It doesn't even have to be written into their contracts. It's do it or get fired. This bunch of whiney pissants can sure as hell spend a few minutes talking to the people who generate the billions they receive in salaries.
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Pot. Meet kettle.
 
ObsiWan said:
oh come on, that's a stretch...

The $30-50K technician isn't expected to speak to the national press on behalf of his company. The 150K/yr exec might be expected to. If the tech knows something that needs to be communicated in a press release or statement to the press, he/she will brief his supervisor who will, in turn, brief the exec who will sanitize it and translate it to company speak at said press conference.

If there's a murder case that the press is covering, it's usually the precinct sgt or local chief that fields questions from the press, not the detectives doing the investigation.

regular $30K/yr Joe Schmoes don't talk to the press, their bosses do
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*****

Add to the above that most corporations hire public relations personnel to deal with the press and DEMAND that all interaction with the press go through them for a variety of reasons.
 
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
On Marshawn Lynch’s looming contract extension: I’m told it’ll pay him more than $10M in 2015 & 2nd to Adrian Peterson in average-per-year

The #Seahawks have offered RB Marshawn Lynch a huge new extension, sources say. More coming on #GameDayMorning http://t.co/vu0JD2HKXo
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ObsiWan said:
oh come on, that's a stretch...

The $30-50K technician isn't expected to speak to the national press on behalf of his company. The 150K/yr exec might be expected to. If the tech knows something that needs to be communicated in a press release or statement to the press, he/she will brief his supervisor who will, in turn, brief the exec who will sanitize it and translate it to company speak at said press conference.

If there's a murder case that the press is covering, it's usually the precinct sgt or local chief that fields questions from the press, not the detectives doing the investigation.

regular $30K/yr Joe Schmoes don't talk to the press, their bosses do
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Absolutely! Not only does Joe Schmoe not talk to the press, but that boss better have everything filtered through Public Relations and receive the approval stamp prior to comments.

It appears that Beast Mode is a man of few words and he selectively chooses who he will speak those few words to. Some people can hate a person's guts, still smile and be engaging and some, perhaps few, won't play the game regardless of the consequences.
 
Y'all are missing the point. If an ordinary employee gets told "go talk to the press" that's what he does regardless of his job description. Who does the talking is a business decision. And that's true where the press/media aren't generating 90% of the business' revenue.
 
infantrycak said:
Y'all are missing the point. If an ordinary employee gets told "go talk to the press" that's what he does regardless of his job description. Who does the talking is a business decision. And that's true where the press/media aren't generating 90% of the business' revenue.
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I think that I do, but we aren't talking about ordinary. I just read that Lynch was offered a contract extension.
 
StarStruck said:
I think that I do, but we aren't talking about ordinary. I just read that Lynch was offered a contract extension.
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No we aren't talking about ordinary. We're talking about someone who makes an extraordinary amount of money in an industry driven by media. Both weigh for him getting off his diva act and talking. Man up this actually is part of his job.
 
infantrycak said:
No we aren't talking about ordinary. We're talking about someone who makes an extraordinary amount of money in an industry driven by media. Both weigh for him getting off his diva act and talking. Man up this actually is part of his job.
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I respectfully disagree :). The interview that I did hear convinced me that he isn't one blessed with the gift of gab, and until he develops some level of public speaking, he would be media's poster child for side jokes. That persona could be his way of hiding his communication deficits as well.
 
StarStruck said:
I respectfully disagree :). The interview that I did hear convinced me that he isn't one blessed with the gift of gab, and until he develops some level of public speaking, he would be media's poster child for side jokes. That persona could be his way of hiding his communication deficits as well.
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He just voluntarily went on Conan. He's given interviews when it suits him.

Look, I'm not saying he should be drummed out of the league. Just think he's being a petulant child.
 
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infantrycak said:
He just voluntarily went on Conan. He's given interviews when it suits him.

Look, I'm not saying he should be drummed out of the league. Just think he's being a petulant child.
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Marshawn Lynch, what I think...

He should have been given the ball to score the Super Bowl winning touchdown.

Worst play call I have ever seen.
 
infantrycak said:
He just voluntarily went on Conan. He's given interviews when it suits him.

Look, I'm not saying he should be drummed out of the league. Just think he's being a petulant child.
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You nailed it, man. MSR

When 100+ other players in this game TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS like professional entertainers, then Lynch is just being a diva about it. All he had to do was mumble some generic answers for a few minutes and this wouldn't even be a story.
 
That approach has its supporters and detractors, but Cardinals linebacker Larry Foote didn’t say whether he thought the league should continue to take a bite of Lynch’s paychecks during a Monday radio interview. Foote did say that he thought Lynch was sending the wrong message with his unwillingness to follow the rules that Foote and other players must also abide by as professional football players.

“You hear in the media, he always mentions his foundation and what he likes to do for the city of Oakland,” Foote said, via 93.7 The Fan. “I’m from the same type of urban environment that he’s from and the biggest message that he’s giving these kids, he might not want to admit it, is the hell with authority. ‘I don’t care, fine me, I’m gonna grab my crotch, I’m gonna do it my way.’ In the real world, it doesn’t work that way. It just doesn’t. How can you keep a job. I mean, you got these inner city kids, they don’t listen to teachers, they don’t listen to police officers, principals and these guys can’t even keep a job because they say ‘F’ authority.”

Foote’s point about the different ways that rules apply to different people is a sound one, even in the NFL. Lynch’s behavior is tolerated because he’s one of the best running backs in the league, but a lesser player would likely get less rope from their own team if they were unwilling to deal with parts of their job they don’t like. That’s even more true when you move out of the realm of NFL sports and into less glamorous professions.
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Link
 
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Also no fine for hat Marshawn Lynch wore at media sessions, which was made by and given to him by NFL licensee, New Era, and was team colors

Marshawn Lynch complied w/ obligations to attend media sessions at Super Bowl and will not be fined, per NFL spokesman Michael Signora.
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