Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

Mariota

The more you watch of Mariota the more one can appreciate Bridgewater ability to pick apart a secondary with his arm not his legs.
 
Really wish this kid was coming out. Looks the part to me -- RoboQB.

robocop-28550-2.jpg
 
Mariota is reminding me of Kaepernick & RG3. Put ten in the box and he won't be as effective. From the limited amount I've watched them both, I think Bridgewater is the superior QB.
 
Mariota is elusive in the open field. My concern is how many licks will it take from NFL backers before he starts breaking up?

Always take the guy who can read the defense and,make the necessary adjustments.

LOL saying there would be 4 or 5 better QBs other than Teddy B in next year's draft is flat out ignorant.
 
JCTexan said:
Mariota is reminding me of Kaepernick & RG3. Put ten in the box and he won't be as effective. From the limited amount I've watched them both, I think Bridgewater is the superior QB.
Click to expand...

Good comparison. I hate the extra second in the release, Teddy has a real quick release.
 
I'm seeing too many called runs. It's not that he's making one read then running, but they're calling a lot of read options, & draws for him.
 
He runs high too, that's a big target for an NFL safety running full speed to lay the wood.
 
He has tools to work with. They're just really hard to evaluate in this Oregon offense. Its much easier to evaluate Teddy, Murray, and some of the other guys in this draft. Even Boyd is a lot easier project. He could turn into a great QB at the next level or a complete bust from what I've seen from him.
 
Uncle Rico said:
He runs high too, that's a big target for an NFL safety running full speed to lay the wood.
Click to expand...

I was listening to someone, maybe Mike Mayock, and it was either last year or the year before when evaluating QBs he said something along the lines of "I've seen a lot of young running QBs enter the league, but I don't see many of them leave the league old".

Basically, these guys' career's don't last. The only guy I can see breaking that rule is Cam because he's built like a tank. But even then, the biggest trees fall the hardest. Either way, this dude is fast as hell. If you could get 4 years out of him it might be enough for 1 ship. This dude is gonna be tough to stop in the NFL if his passing game steps up.
 
Mariota looks like his leg is about to turn into concrete. Dude definitely needs another year at Oregon.
 
TexansFTW said:
I was listening to someone, maybe Mike Mayock, and it was either last year or the year before when evaluating QBs he said something along the lines of "I've seen a lot of young running QBs enter the league, but I don't see many of them leave the league old".

Basically, these guys' career's don't last. The only guy I can see breaking that rule is Cam because he's built like a tank. But even then, the biggest trees fall the hardest. Either way, this dude is fast as hell. If you could get 4 years out of him it might be enough for 1 ship. This dude is gonna be tough to stop in the NFL if his passing game steps up.
Click to expand...

Yup. Have you ever stood next to a chiseled NFL defender? I imagine getting hit by them doesn't tickle and a lot of young guys question their career choice after a couple of snot bubble inducing shots
 
Uncle Rico said:
Yup. Have you ever stood next to a chiseled NFL defender? I imagine getting hit by them doesn't tickle and a lot of young guys question their career choice after a couple of snot bubble inducing shots
Click to expand...

Living in Houston for a while now, I've had the pleasure of having an Adrian Peterson sighting. I'm not short (6'0"), but AP literally towered over me and ESPN has him listed at just 6'1".

He also turned my hand into jello when he shook it. AP is about as jacked as a strong safety I imagine, and I would have hated if he hit me full speed. So I can imagine what you're referring to and don't think I would choose a career path where I constantly put myself into those type guys line of sight.
 
Trap_Star said:
That article is from over a week ago and he's already reiterated that's he's staying since.
Click to expand...

You mean like Mack reiterating he was staying on as the HC at Texas? His answers will depend on who is asking the question and what he believes they want to hear. He's a politician.
 
Uncle Rico said:
LOL saying there would be 4 or 5 better QBs other than Teddy B in next year's draft is flat out ignorant.
Click to expand...

First off, I said that he would be the 4th or 5th best, which means that 3 or 4 QBs would be better than him. The inability to parse that statement correctly would more aptly be termed as ignorance. As for the 3 or 4 QBs that I would put above him from next year's draft:

Winston
Hundley
Mariota
Bortles

Obviously, one or two of those may declare eligible, so the number is flexible. You may disagree with putting any one of those QBs ahead of Bridgewater, and that's fine. But a contrary opinion is not ignorant.

Hell, I may even like Petty better by the time another season has been played.
 
Marshall said:
You mean like Mack reiterating he was staying on as the HC at Texas? His answers will depend on who is asking the question and what he believes they want to hear. He's a politician.
Click to expand...

i guess you didn't read that the decision was made for Mack....but yes, he could ultimately change his mind. there are no indications that he will and for his sake, he shouldn't.
 
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance

Spitting out that X amount of players would be better than the best QB prospect in this draft is a subjective comment based on YOUR opinion and trying to pass it off as a fact is funny and just exposes you for the joke you are, so save your English class jargon and stop humiliating yourself.
 
Uncle Rico said:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance

Spitting out that X amount of players would be better than the best QB prospect in this draft is a subjective comment based on YOUR opinion and trying to pass it off as a fact is funny and just exposes you for the joke you are, so save your English class jargon and stop humiliating yourself.
Click to expand...

So read again what I posted here:

eriadoc said:
But a contrary opinion is not ignorant.
Click to expand...

And tell me that you have a basic understanding of the English language.
 
This kid needs his own thread. He's killing the best defense in the country right now.

Great size, runs like a gazelle, smart with the ball, cannon arm. What don't you like? Best QB in the country.
 
Uncle Rico said:
This kid needs his own thread. He's killing the best defense in the country right now.

Great size, runs like a gazelle, smart with the ball, cannon arm. What don't you like? Best QB in the country.
Click to expand...

I like everything about him.

He's making me reconsider my QB rankings

1. Winston
2. Mariota
3. Cook- Who has also looked really good today and has the size BOB looks for in a QB.
 
Uncle Rico said:
This kid needs his own thread. He's killing the best defense in the country right now.

Great size, runs like a gazelle, smart with the ball, cannon arm. What don't you like? Best QB in the country.
Click to expand...

Do you think he could be ready to start week 1 of the 2015 season?
 
steelbtexan said:
I like everything about him.

He's making me reconsider my QB rankings

1. Winston
2. Mariota
3. Cook- Who has also looked really good today and has the size BOB looks for in a QB.
Click to expand...

Im impressed how team first he is, almost to a fault. Even the announcers made comment how he needed to be a little more selfish for the ultimate good of the team and he took over in the second half.

thunderkyss said:
Do you think he could be ready to start week 1 of the 2015 season?
Click to expand...

His skillset is one that he could not only start day 1, but he would be effective day 1.
 
I am waiting for him to get his completion percentage up as his yards per catch is very good as is his TD to INT ratio.
 
Didn't think to dig into the 2nd page and go back to December and rehash an old thread ... will try that next time.
 
I like mariota ok.

Didn't see him today, but last year I had a similar concern as I had with manziel. The system they play in.

I wonder how he translates to a more nfl style offense where he has more responsibility and more reads. More things to think about.

What I do like about him is that I think he's better in the pocket than manziel and seems more mature as a football player.
 
He's definitely got the new school tools. But we all know it's about putting in the work and the IQ. Dude would look good in a Texan uni.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I like mariota ok.

Didn't see him today, but last year I had a similar concern as I had with manziel. The system they play in.

I wonder how he translates to a more nfl style offense where he has more responsibility and more reads. More things to think about.

What I do like about him is that I think he's better in the pocket than manziel and seems more mature as a football player.
Click to expand...

Yep. He has zero experience in a pro style passing game and would have to be taught everything on the go as a rookie. Ideally a guy you sit for a year and let him digest the playbook. His college offense really does nothing to prepare him for the pro game. Agree on your other points about him. Very mature and likable young man.

Also, I like Connor Cook more and more every time I see him. I think he has a real chance to be better than Kirk Cousins (also played at MSU).
 
Since we're talking about possible QBs to select, depending on how he continues to develop this season since it's only his second real season starting and we miss out on a top ten pick and have to start looking towards other players..

What is y'all's opinion on Taysom Hill? You never hear anything about this guy in the major media discussions, but this kid can flat out ball. He's starting to look like another QB from BYU, except he's bigger, stronger, faster, and has a better arm.

The guy looks highly intelligent and even though he could take off on any play (fantastic speed and athleticism), he also works very well within the pocket and is a willing passer. I don't know what his draft projections are yet, but I have a feeling he is going to start shooting up some boards after the combine if he has a big season. Every time I've watched him play I've been highly impressed.. not saying he's going to go high in the draft, but as a prospect and his skill set, he's pretty damn interesting.
 
Cook is definitely the better QB at this point. Mariota plays in an offense that is perfectly suited to his game and he excels in it. He won't get babied like that in the NFL. With that said, he impressed me. I personally wouldn't draft him in the top five, but somebody will. And if they coach him up right it will work out.

Taysom Hill is only a junior and won't be in the draft this year. He is a fantastic college QB and obviously owns Texas, but he doesn't have a NFL skill set. He's basically BYU's version of Tebow.
 
Mariota 17/28 316 3TDs 0 INTS 80 QBR

Cook 29/47 343 2TDs 2INTS 55 QBR

So what to make from that? Mariota was supposedly facing the best defense in the country. Oregon on the other hand isn't some kind of defensive force, playing at home sure helps that side of the ball no doubt.

Im curious what the argument to support the claim that Cook is somehow the better player/prospect is? I don't think the 2 are close at all judging by this game, or even all of last year. Mariota has all the measurables and intangibles you want in the new age QB.

The game is evolving. Players are faster, especially on the defensive side. Pure drop back passers are a thing of the past.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I like mariota ok.

Didn't see him today, but last year I had a similar concern as I had with manziel. The system they play in.

I wonder how he translates to a more nfl style offense where he has more responsibility and more reads. More things to think about.

What I do like about him is that I think he's better in the pocket than manziel and seems more mature as a football player.
Click to expand...
Don't most high school QB go to colleges they believe will make the player look good? IIRC most coaches and O & D coordinators have a "system".
 
Uncle Rico said:
Im curious what the argument to support the claim that Cook is somehow the better player/prospect is?.
Click to expand...

Two of Mariots'a TD passes were on busted coverage. Pretty easy pitch and catch. That does wonders for a QB rating. Mariota still gets credit for spotting a lonely WR deep behind the defense.

Watching the game it appeared to me that Cook did a better job in the pocket, better presence, awareness and execution under pressure.
 
Texian said:
Two of Mariots'a TD passes were on busted coverage. Pretty easy pitch and catch. That does wonders for a QB rating. Mariota still gets credit for spotting a lonely WR deep behind the defense.

Watching the game it appeared to me that Cook did a better job in the pocket, better presence, awareness and execution under pressure.
Click to expand...

Texian and I don't agree very often, but Cook was clearly the better QB in that game.
 
badboy said:
Don't most high school QB go to colleges they believe will make the player look good? IIRC most coaches and O & D coordinators have a "system".
Click to expand...


The answer to your first question is no. For players in general there are a lot of factors that go into choosing a school, if they have choices.

And I don't get the point of your second question. Unless you are saying that you think a qb at navy or Georgia tech can step into a traditional nfl offense despite the type of system they are in. Yeah all teams have a system. But if they go to a different type of system where they have to do different things, they MAY struggle. Or take time to adjust.
 
just watching game now. two different QB's, skill sets, approach to respective offenses. disagree with anybody who doesn't feel Mariota cannot fit in NFL offense.

Cook reminds me a little bit of Ben Rothelisberger in the pocket, fluid in his drops for size, will climb the pocket, mostly out of shotgun, good accuracy but not athletic. good fit in Pittsburgh or San Diego.

Mariota is extremely adept throwing on the run, strong sharp passes with heat (underrated quality, like Kaepernick who should be his comp, just not off the field, very clean) electric handing off, keeping defense on toes, can sell & boot. Mariota looks physically bigger & plays stronger Polynesian genes kicking-in.

Both teams have excellent secondary's, look @ both for db help. Excellent match-up, like fact Oregon didn't panic, made halftime adjustment & blew out a quality opponent.
 
No. 1 overall pick.
Unless there's an injury or some unfathomable reason./

I've watched most of his games against tier 1 opponents.

How long will it take for him to develop under center is another question.
How well is also a different question.

Newton saw about 20 snaps under center at Auburn and he does just fine in the NFL.

Quite a few Eagles fans are willing to give up Nick Foles and two first rd picks for Mariota.
In fact, I saw a survey showing nearly forty percent of them willing to make a trade of there-about value.
 
Texian said:
Two of Mariots'a TD passes were on busted coverage. Pretty easy pitch and catch. That does wonders for a QB rating. Mariota still gets credit for spotting a lonely WR deep behind the defense.

Watching the game it appeared to me that Cook did a better job in the pocket, better presence, awareness and execution under pressure.
Click to expand...

I guess finding the open receiver is not a skill. Perhaps in your humble opinion Cook sailing 2 passes under pressure for INTS was a better example of quarterback play. Agree to disagree I suppose.
 
Uncle Rico said:
I guess finding the open receiver is not a skill. Perhaps in your humble opinion Cook sailing 2 passes under pressure for INTS was a better example of quarterback play. Agree to disagree I suppose.
Click to expand...

Try reading again what I said about giving Mariota credit.
 
Uncle Rico said:
An underhanded, half assed 'compliment' followed by "Cook performed better under pressure" ... OKAY LOL
Click to expand...

Nope, that's your interpretation. To often you see QBs completely miss the wide open WR. So again I say, Mariota gets credit for finding the open receiver.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top