bad said:
What?
Who?
Where?
It'd be great if you could post links to these sources. A quote from some scouts and someone from an NFL team that you know of would carry a lot more weight than just, you know, a guy typing stuff.
In case any of you are not watching NFL Draft Preview on ESPN right now, they just said that at least 6 NFL teams have Mario rated higher than Bush, and if Mario had played as well at the beginning of the year as the end that he would most likely be the consensus #1. Interesting how I have been saying this for a couple days now...
Koolbrz said:
Dude if your going to be picked number 1 in the draft, you just don't give up. You and i both know what will happen if for some reason the running back reverses his field. I would rather he be there in pursuit than he not trying and gets planted on his *** when he gets blind sided with a block. Seen it happen one to many times in the past. He could be a very good player, but his inconsistency worries me. That is why i say we go with Bush. He just brings so much more to the table. Look over Mario's scouting report. Keep in mind these guys know more about football than you and i. You can even compare him to Reggie. I want to know what you think after looking over there reports.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/423846
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/407605
Williams is a huge defensive end, so despite his topnotch athleticism, he will never be the explosive-off-the-ball speed/edge rusher that Freeney is. Williams can beat offensive tackles around corner, but not as easily as Freeney can. He needs to become more consistent getting off the ball explosively every snap. He does not always chase hard after the ball in backside pursuit; he just pulls up and quits chasing occasionally. He does not protect legs from low/cut blocks well and can be slowed down by them.
That is all the bad things they can find about him. I never said he doesn't occasionally give up on plays, I said I have seen that a few times, my point was what defensive players don't stop running if the play is going the other way, they get double-team blocked and are 20 yards behind the play when they get free? I would like to have seen him play a little more consistently, but if that's the biggest knock that people can find on him it doesn't change my opinion of him at all.
Koolbrz said:
These are reports put together by NFL scouts not the people at cbssportsline. I still do not see the Texans picking him up with the number 1 pick. Too much inconsistency is what has this team at the bottom along with bad coaching and not very good players. Problems are being taken care of and i do hope that they don't miss out on Reggie. Been a long time since a player of his caliber has come out of college. Sorry but DE's do not score TD's. I would rather see Reggie running by this guy than mario trying to chase reggie down from behind. Not going to happen..
I hate to bring up the old cliche that has been beat to death on here, but even if Mario gives up on backside pursuit 2-3 plays per game, would you rather have a dominant force in the game every single play on the defensive side of the ball and giving it 100% on 95% of the plays, or see a great RB that is on the field for 80% of the plays and being directly involved in the play maybe 60% of the time?
Right now I honestly think it is a much closer decision than most people think, I think the entire defensive staff is pulling for Mario while the entire offensive staff is pulling for Bush, it just depends on which side is more stubborn and convincing and if there are any significant differences in salary demands. Kubiak is an offensive coach, so in one sense he might want to add a bunch of offensive players to fix up his offense, but at the same time he might feel more confident in himself running our offense with our current players and looking to stock up the defensive side of the ball, which is probably weaker on paper anyways. I am very eager to see what happens in 11 days, either way I think we get a phenomenal player and can't wait to see what either one can bring to our team this year.
Koolbrz said:
I agree with most of what you say, but this was in college. In the NFL he will get his *** planted with a blind sided block if he lets up. Happens all the time. Another thing is do you honestly feel that someone should have to put a boot on his *** to get him to play CONSISTENTLY! The money he would be making should be motivation enough. By the way, there are a few DE's in the league that do not let up. They keep going after the guy with the ball, wether it be the QB or RB. Freeney is one guy that comes to mind. Never have i seen this guy let up. Most of us on here have played football and know what the game is about. I for one have played from LL. thru H.S. and in an adult league in the area where i live. I know this is no where near being the NFL, but all coaches tell you the same thing. You should know Coach. You don't stop, defensivley, until you get the guy with the football and you keep that back side pusuit coming you just never know when that rb will reverse his field. Just the basics.
If you specifically watch any DLineman every play you will see every single one of them let up occasionally when they are not close to the play, it happens. I think this Mario "taking plays off" is getting blown out of proportion by people that have not actually seen him play and are just taking a generic statement that was made by a couple of people and overexaggerating its importance.
