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Mario vs. Julius

How about the Eagles fan talking smack?? Say hello to TO and the great receiver you got from the Texans for us would you? Do we even need CB's when we play the Eagles?? RUN DONOVAN RUN!!!!!
 
Well, with TO gone, it looks like you guys are left with the same crappy WR core you had in '04 that lost you the NFC championship game against Carolina. Gaffney is going to be your new #1 WR? HAH! Donavan is going to have to start using his legs again to get this offense moving. Westbrook will have to carry the load as well. Be fortunate that Donovan is a very good QB. How he took you guys to NFC championship games before TO was a great accomplishment on his part.

On the flip side I'm very happy to be facing your defense. With your blitzing schemes, we're going to know immediately know where our offense (Carr specifically) stands. Heaven or hell starts on week 1.

That being said, I can't wait.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
TJ is a 1 gap penatrator who plays in a 4-3. Last year he spent time adjusting to the NFL and playing in a 3-4 as a DE. He is just slightly a level below Bunkley, but now he has had time to adjust to the NFL game speed.

Weaver, is a DE from Baltimore. He excells at run stopping, but is also moving back to a 4-3. I'm not saying we'll win, becuase I do not think we are a better team than the Eagles, all I was stating is that our D-line is better than yours. That is obvious. Then if you want to add in our depth, we have you owned.


If T.J was slightly a level below Bunkley, then Bunkley would have started in 2004 at FSU at the UT position which he did not. TJ did, T.J was regarded higher for his penetration into offenses then Bunkley has been during this draft coverage. What helped Bunkley was his impressive combine stats. But as far as playing T.J was the man
 
MasterC25 said:
If he was slightly a level below Bunkley, then Bunkley would have started in 2004 which he did not. TJ did.
Bunkley coming out has a higher grade than TJ.

TJ has upside though, regarded as the top dlineman coming out of highschool, he had a decent sophomore season, but he didn't show any improvement his junior season, im guessing he was distracted by off the field issues.

But when the smoked cleared, in his senior season he emerged again and became the top rated dt in the 2005 draft. If TJ is dedicated he has the tools to be a great DT.

Yes, there were at Florida St. together, but Bunkley was a year younger than TJ. Overall, both have similar grades.
 
Even if Mario is not getting sacks himself, his raw ability will draw double teams and free up others to make plays. Look for our linebackers to thrive and T.J. to be a huge suprise this year.

I cant wait till our home opener.
Go Texans!
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Some of his success might be attributable to his teammate. Having a freakish 6'6" 241 lb. NFL quality teammate who happens to run a 4.43 demanding a lot of attention can take a lot of pressure off a guy. How many other colleges had 2 defensive linemen good enough to be drafted at all much less have 2 taken in the first round? His teammate was the fastest lineman in the draft. I'd like to know how many double-teams Mario faced in college.

Make that 3 D linemen taken in the 1st round. Though McCargo should have never been drafted there. Buffalo's draft was a joke.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
The same way Williams made Lawson?
Maybe you're not understanding what I was responding to. He was implying that Sims was the reason for Peppers college success, not the other way around.

Manny Lawson made his own plays in college. He was definately helped by Williams, but he wasn't the chump that Ryan Sims was.
 
in regards to the eagles...bunkley is going to be a great DT for years to come...TJ is going to be a great DT for years to come...they just have different styles of playing...TJ is more like warren sapp and Bunkley is more like tommie harris...basically pick your poison...both will be great mark my words...the recieving corp for phili is not going to be scary...you got reggie brown, jabar gaffney, and greg lewis i think...none of those guys are speed guys...none of those guys can stretch a field...but those guys can catch so if andy reid does a bunch of short to intermediate length passes the eagles can succeed...but with their division it's going to be extremely hard
 
keyfro said:
just thought i'd compare mario william's and julius pepper's junior year stats in college

Julius Peppers: Collected 63 tackles, 9.5 sacks, one forced fumble and three interceptions, including one returned for a touchdown...Three interceptions ranked first in the country among defensive lineman

Mario Williams: Collected 62 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 blocked kick, 1 safty, 4 fumble recoveries, 27.5 tackles for loss

some people have questioned super mario's effort throughout the season but he had more sacks and more forced fumbles than julius...any thoughts?

I think that he was a man among boys in college and he will do well at the next level. I thought he was a inspired #1 pick.. The popular choice is not allways the best choice.
 
Vinny said:
Hainsworth and Henderson (TN) - Stroud and Seymour (Georgia) come to mind off the top of my head as dominant DL tandems that went on to have successful individual careers in the near past.


vinny.... how could you forget the best there ever was??

Shaun Rogers and Casey Hampton!
 
While you are comparing there league records don’t forget that the ACC Peppers played in and the one Mario played in are vastly different leagues. Miami, Virginia Tech, & Boston College were all added after Pep’s playing days. IMHO Mario has the potential to be a super beast. The challenge for your staff will be to bring the beast out of him. He is a nice guy by nature.
 
tex2theend said:
How about the Eagles fan talking smack?? Say hello to TO and the great receiver you got from the Texans for us would you? Do we even need CB's when we play the Eagles?? RUN DONOVAN RUN!!!!!
Im sure McNabb is shaking at the mighty Texans defense. :rolleyes:
 
just to add my 2 cents...the eagles offense does not scare me especially with TO gone and westbrook getting old and ineffective....what will concern me is how quickly our defensive players can learn the new system and play as a TEAM. The addition of super mario will undoubtedly (SP?) help the line play and its play as a unit....just as flanagan will help in the same regards to the O line.
 
Eagles78 said:
Im sure McNabb is shaking at the mighty Texans defense. :rolleyes:

I think the front seven of the Texans is marketly improved. However, I think McNabb will pick our secondary apart. I could easily see a game close going into the second half and then the Eagles pull away. Final score something like 27-17.
 
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