"Mallett Will Be Starting QB vs Colts"... Opinions??

[HOU-TEX]

Yeah, thinking long term I'm always a guy that would rather stink all the way or be pretty good. I hate the 8-8 style myself because you end up without the QB picks.

I just don't want Mallet man. He is to hard to watch. Plus, I don't want to see OB fail as our coach and I'd really like to see him as our long term answer. I like the guy, but right now I'm starting to worry.

I'm in this boat too. But, if OB doesn't find 'his guy' fairly quick he'll continue digging his own grave. Bringing in two Patriot scrubs thinking they can run his offense like Brady did is only hurting everyone involved. I want him to succeed, but don't see it happening anytime soon

 

[Double Barrel]

Mullet starts the rest of the season ?! Good , we'll be in position to draft a quality QB prospect.

That's my thoughts ....

Which means they'll draft a defensive lineman.

I'm not sure I could even get up enough 'care' to pay attention if they go into the 2016 with more garbage-pile QBs.

I think it's official that O'Brien is no "QB guru" like the media likes to spin. Anyone can be a guru with Tom Brady as their QB.

 

[Speedy]

Andy Dalton has had at least one season that Matt Schaub couldn't touch, and appears to be working on another.

What season would that be?

 

[TexansSeminole]

Mallett has been over throwing receivers and throwing balls short (into the turf) since college. In college, in preseason, and in the regular season. It doesn't seem to matter if his pectoral muscle is injured. If that's true, all it tells me is that we can add "recurring injury" to his many shortcomings.

 

[BetaV1]

I am for Mallett because either he suddenly "gets it" or we get a top 5 pick, either is fine with me. I am not in favor of going back to the dreaded 8-8 seasons. Not good enough to make playoffs but not bad enough to grab a top QB

The Bills GM recently said that his team was almost in "quarterback purgatory." That's when you're not good enough to win due to a lack of QB but not bad enough to lose to address it.

Honestly I never bought that idea. Yes, most starting QB's are found in the first round of the draft, but they don't have to be early picks.

What we found among the 34 starters (counted two teams as having more than one starter): Exactly half (17) were first-round picks, including five quarterbacks who were the overall No. 1 picks. In all, there were eight first-rounders who were the first quarterbacks selected in their respective draft, along with five first-rounders who were the second quarterbacks drafted and four who were the third signal-callers picked. (Two former first-rounders were injured, Arizona's Carson Palmer and St. Louis' Sam Bradford, and another, Buffalo's EJ Manuel, lost his starting job early in the season -- meaning the 17 easily could have been 20.)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...n-draft-origins-for-starting-nfl-quarterbacks

There's talent in the mid to later part of the first round. The key is to identify the talent and don't get cute. You find the QB you want and you take him. The second you think your guy will just slide to you a bit later in the draft is when a team jumps up one spot in front of you to take Teddy Bridgewater.

I want no part of Hoyer ****ing around and winning one or two screwing us out of draft position early enough to get one of the top two QB prospects.

Oh I wouldn't worry about that...

 

[welsh texan]

If they beat the colts on TNF they are right back in the hunt for the division.

Need to hope Mall gets healthy and Arian stays the course and we could still be on to a decent season.

Sure there are worrying signs I'll not deny that, but I'm giving it 72 hours before I give up on this season.

 

[Bulls on Parade]

Short leash for Ryan Mallett on Thursday Night? If he struggles early and we fall behind a couple scores I wouldn't hesitate to put Brian Hoyer in the game. I hope Mallett plays well from start to finish. We can't afford another slow start in this must-win game.

 

[Nitrofish]

After completing the ALL 22 QB cutups, I counted 9 drops by receivers while Mallet was playing. 1 of which was the Interception to start the game which hit Hopkins right in the numbers. Hoyer had 2 more drops during his time.

 

[Bulls on Parade]

After completing the ALL 22 QB cutups, I counted 9 drops by receivers while Mallet was playing. 1 of which was the Interception to start the game which hit Hopkins right in the numbers. Hoyer had 2 more drops during his time.

Brian Hoyer is a better fit for our offense if we're going to dink and dunk our way down the field with quick passes under five yards. Hoyer can throw those short little soft passes that are easy to catch.

As you know by watching Ryan Mallett against the Falcons, a few of those incompletions were balls thrown way too hard. One of them was a bullett pass that Garrett Graham dropped three yards away. It's hard to catch a fastball thrown with extreme force when you are only a couple yards away. Ryan Mallett doesn't know how to soften those throws. He throws them too hard. If we're going to showcase Ryan Mallett's strong arm then please, George fucken Godsey, call for some deeper fucken passes!!!!!!

Otherwise, let's play Brian Hoyer if we're going to run the same Mickey Mouse offense that is full of short and quick passes. 3rd down and 11? We call for a short screen pass to the running back (Polk) that nets us five yards. Whoopie.

The play calling isn't taking advantage of Ryan Mallett's strong arm. So it makes more sense to play Brian Hoyer given the type of offensive plays we like to call. Trotting out Ryan Mallett with our current offensive schemes is going to give us more of the same frustrations. There is no flow on offense at all when Mallett is throwing uncatchable rockets for short passes.

 

[Texecutioner]

Brian Hoyer is a better fit for our offense if we're going to dink and dunk our way down the field with quick passes under five yards. Hoyer can throw those short little soft passes that are easy to catch.

As you know by watching Ryan Mallett against the Falcons, a few of those incompletions were balls thrown way too hard. One of them was a bullett pass that Garrett Graham dropped three yards away. It's hard to catch a fastball thrown with extreme force when you are only a couple yards away. Ryan Mallett doesn't know how to soften those throws. He throws them too hard. If we're going to showcase Ryan Mallett's strong arm then please, George fucken Godsey, call for some deeper fucken passes!!!!!!

Otherwise, let's play Brian Hoyer if we're going to run the same Mickey Mouse offense that is full of short and quick passes. 3rd down and 11? We call for a short screen pass to the running back (Polk) that nets us five yards. Whoopie.

The play calling isn't taking advantage of Ryan Mallett's strong arm. So it makes more sense to play Brian Hoyer given the type of offensive plays we like to call. Trotting out Ryan Mallett with our current offensive schemes is going to give us more of the same frustrations. There is no flow on offense at all when Mallett is throwing uncatchable rockets for short passes.

After watching Mallet for three games, I totally agree with you. Even if we were throwing down the field, Mallet can't hit those guys in stride with accuracy any way. His accuracy is maybe the worst I've ever seen. Its up there.

Hoyer could possibly come back and string together a few decent games. Hell, we only saw him for one game. I don't think Mallet is fixable personally, and those fastballs he throws are totally unnecessary most of the time.

 

[mussop]

Dalton is at least accurate. Mallett is a poor man's Jay Cutler. A very poor man's.

That's actually a pretty good comparison

Short leash for Ryan Mallett on Thursday Night? If he struggles early and we fall behind a couple scores I wouldn't hesitate to put Brian Hoyer in the game.

Dont worry about that happening. I took care of any chance of the Colts having a good offensive game. I put all their WR'S on my draft kings lineup. They'll be lucky if any of them finish the game. And just to be safe I picked their defense. We should beat them by 50 now.

 

[mussop]

Brian Hoyer is a better fit for our offense if we're going to dink and dunk our way down the field with quick passes under five yards. Hoyer can throw those short little soft passes that are easy to catch.

As you know by watching Ryan Mallett against the Falcons, a few of those incompletions were balls thrown way too hard. One of them was a bullett pass that Garrett Graham dropped three yards away. It's hard to catch a fastball thrown with extreme force when you are only a couple yards away. Ryan Mallett doesn't know how to soften those throws. He throws them too hard. If we're going to showcase Ryan Mallett's strong arm then please, George fucken Godsey, call for some deeper fucken passes!!!!!!

Otherwise, let's play Brian Hoyer if we're going to run the same Mickey Mouse offense that is full of short and quick passes. 3rd down and 11? We call for a short screen pass to the running back (Polk) that nets us five yards. Whoopie.

The play calling isn't taking advantage of Ryan Mallett's strong arm. So it makes more sense to play Brian Hoyer given the type of offensive plays we like to call. Trotting out Ryan Mallett with our current offensive schemes is going to give us more of the same frustrations. There is no flow on offense at all when Mallett is throwing uncatchable rockets for short passes.

Yeh those poor WRs it's all mallets fault they suck and can't catch. Smh

 

[EVOLVIST]

You roll with Mallett. He gives you the best chance for Jared Goff.

Sure, but what makes you think even picking 1:1 that OB will make the right choice, given that he didn't take Bridgewater, Carr nor Garoppolo, not to mention any other QB from the last draft?

I think it's official that O'Brien is no "QB guru" like the media likes to spin. Anyone can be a guru with Tom Brady as their QB.

I know you're saying this because OB coached Brady up in NE, but anyone can be a "guru" like Bill Belichick, too, when your QB is Brady. Remember, Belichick was 41-56 as a head coach before Brady started playing.

I don't think Mallet is fixable personally, and those fastballs he throws are totally unnecessary most of the time.

~signed
Brett Favre

(except that Favre was more accurate).

Say, how about this? Mallett seems to do much, much better when you run the no-huddle, hurry up offense. Why not just run this pace from the get-go, and don't let Mallett & crew just lope to the line. If you want your team to score, get after them; keep the defense from calling a play; don't let them catch a break.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Say, how about this? Mallett seems to do much, much better when you run the no-huddle, hurry up offense. Why not just run this pace from the get-go, and don't let Mallett & crew just lope to the line. If you want your team to score, get after them; keep the defense from calling a play; don't let them catch a break.

They go fast pace when they begin moving the ball. Going fast pace from the start will kill an already suspect defense by going 3 and out. Except for a handful of drives, they haven't been able to get in any type of rhythm to run the no huddle.

 

[EVOLVIST]

They go fast pace when they begin moving the ball. Going fast pace from the start will kill an already suspect defense by going 3 and out. Except for a handful of drives, they haven't been able to get in any type of rhythm to run the no huddle.

See the Cleveland game last year. If you get the defense on their heels early enough, you can do anything. It takes balls, though. Guns blazing or dragging ass? Hell, rush out there and barely get set...snap the ball! Go!

 

[Texecutioner]

Sure, but what makes you think even picking 1:1 that OB will make the right choice, given that he didn't take Bridgewater, Carr nor Garoppolo, not to mention any other QB from the last draft?



I know you're saying this because OB coached Brady up in NE, but anyone can be a "guru" like Bill Belichick, too, when your QB is Brady. Remember, Belichick was 41-56 as a head coach before Brady started playing.



~signed
Brett Favre

(except that Favre was more accurate).

Say, how about this? Mallett seems to do much, much better when you run the no-huddle, hurry up offense. Why not just run this pace from the get-go, and don't let Mallett & crew just lope to the line. If you want your team to score, get after them; keep the defense from calling a play; don't let them catch a break.

Yes, Favre had bullets that were hard to catch too at times, but only when they were necessary. Favre threw tons of soft passes and lobs all the time as well when he needed to Favre was a deadly passer all around and was extremely accurate. Mallet throws these fastballs 90 mph when he has no need to a lot of times. Favre could throw every time of pass imaginable, while Mallet seems to have just this fastball that he throws all the time, and rarely is it accurate where the receiver doesn't have to adjust to catch the ball.

 

[thunderkyss]

Brian Hoyer is a better fit for our offense if we're going to dink and dunk our way down the field with quick passes under five yards. Hoyer can throw those short little soft passes that are easy to catch.

I thought Hoyer looked scared under pressure. I thought he looked scared under pressure the second half of the last season when the Browns were missing key pieces.

When he's scared under pressure, he did stupid things.

IMO, he's in "Break glass in case of emergency only" territory. Not even good back up. There's no way I'd put Hoyer back in the game unless Mallett is injured.

 

[Texecutioner]

I thought Hoyer looked scared under pressure. I thought he looked scared under pressure the second half of the last season when the Browns were missing key pieces.

When he's scared under pressure, he did stupid things.

IMO, he's in "Break glass in case of emergency only" territory. Not even good back up. There's no way I'd put Hoyer back in the game unless Mallett is injured.

How did Mallet get this unconditional support as the starter? What has he ever earned to get this over Hoyer? Hoyer got one game, and yeah he flunked that one game, but Mallet has the last three as well. Hell, he couldn't even muster up 3 points against the Falcons who are not good on defense. Mallet simply cannot move the ball, and the defense is dying out there. I get the lack of confidence in Hoyer, but not if it is because Mallet still needs his chance. He has gotten it, and last week Hoyer provided a spark even though it was in garbage time. I'm ready to see if he can keep that spark going still. Anything is better than watching Mallet over throw his receivers all game long.

 

[thunderkyss]

Yes, Favre had bullets that were hard to catch too at times, but only when they were necessary. Favre threw tons of soft passes and lobs all the time as well when he needed to Favre was a deadly passer all around and was extremely accurate. Mallet throws these fastballs 90 mph when he has no need to a lot of times. Favre could throw every time of pass imaginable, while Mallet seems to have just this fastball that he throws all the time, and rarely is it accurate where the receiver doesn't have to adjust to catch the ball.

You guys are remembering HOF Bret Favre, not just traded from Atlanta Bret Favre.

 

[Double Barrel]

I know you're saying this because OB coached Brady up in NE, but anyone can be a "guru" like Bill Belichick, too, when your QB is Brady. Remember, Belichick was 41-56 as a head coach before Brady started playing.

The media calls him a QB guru, not me. I just question why and don't necessarily see it in his credentials.

As far as Belichick, dude already had two Super Bowl rings as a defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells, so he already had a solid resume as a coordinator. If you look at his career, it goes back to 1975, and he has been an NFL coach ever since (O'Brien, on the other hand, has five years with NE and that's it as far as pro coaching experience).

And Belichick was building something in Cleveland, but just got stopped short by Art Modell's sudden decision to move the team. However, that Ravens team had deep roots going back to the foundation that Belichick was building in Cleveland.

And credit has to be given to Belichick and his staff for even drafting Brady in the 6th round. And Belichick made the bold decision to stick with Brady as a starter when his much more experienced QB returned from injury.

 

[Texecutioner]

The media calls him a QB guru, not me. I just question why and don't necessarily see it in his credentials.

As far as Belichick, dude already had two Super Bowl rings as a defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells, so he already had a solid resume as a coordinator. If you look at his career, it goes back to 1975, and he has been an NFL coach ever since (O'Brien, on the other hand, has five years with NE and that's it as far as pro coaching experience).

And Belichick was building something in Cleveland, but just got stopped short by Art Modell's sudden decision to move the team. However, that Ravens team had deep roots going back to the foundation that Belichick was building in Cleveland.

And credit has to be given to Belichick and his staff for even drafting Brady in the 6th round. And Belichick made the bold decision to stick with Brady as a starter when his much more experienced QB returned from injury.

Yes, this is true but so many people used to say Brady was a "system QB." LOL! Totally forgetting that he had 3 OC's throughout his career and continued to get better no matter who is out there and no matter who is receivers have been.

OB has definitely not earned any reputation for being a QB guru other than being an offensive coach. The same goes for Kubiak when all these people used to call him a QB guru. Kubiak never earned that title either.

 

[badboy]

My source says Mallett strained / aggravated his pectoral muscle last week (the one he had surgery on last season)...which is why he missed a practice day last week. Obrien agreed to let him try to play thru it....this is why a number of his passes dropped short into turf....They're doing daily treatment on it and think the muscle is responding & will be much better by Colts game....This is why Obrien is not benching him....He knows Mallett was trying to play thru the pain & doesn't feel he should bench him over a temporary (hopefully) injury....However, if for any reason the muscle is not 100% by Colts game day Obrien could/would hold Mallett out & start Hoyer.

If O'Brien knowing allowed Mallett to play crappy for 3 quarters injured, O'Brien should be fired. It is one thing if he was playing so so but not crap.

 

[thunderkyss]

How did Mallet get this unconditional support as the starter? What has he ever earned to get this over Hoyer? Hoyer got one game, and yeah he flunked that one game, but Mallet has the last three as well. Hell, he couldn't even muster up 3 points against the Falcons who are not good on defense. Mallet simply cannot move the ball, and the defense is dying out there. I get the lack of confidence in Hoyer, but not if it is because Mallet still needs his chance. He has gotten it, and last week Hoyer provided a spark even though it was in garbage time. I'm ready to see if he can keep that spark going still. Anything is better than watching Mallet over throw his receivers all game long.

It's not about unconditional support. As far as I'm concerned, what I saw from Hoyer is that he's shell shocked. Last year & this year. I was as surprised as anyone that O'Brien benched him. Even more surprised that he made Mallett the starter for the next game. That tells me he saw something fundamentally wrong with Hoyer. May be the same thing I saw. May have been something else. Who knows.

If nothing else, this is an audition for O'Brien & Godsey (surely they won't get fired this season). They need to be taking notes, what they're doing right, what they're doing wrong. So when they get another young QB, they can avoid all the wrong stuff.

 

[badboy]

I never thought Texans would have a QB controversy over two bad players.

 

[disaacks3]

If O'Brien knowing allowed Mallett to play crappy for 3 quarters injured, O'Brien should be fired. It is one thing if he was playing so so but not crap.

Agreed. If the injury is the "true story" though, there's no way Mallet is 100% by Thursday. Heck, 75% would be a miracle.

 

[infantrycak]

OB has definitely not earned any reputation for being a QB guru other than being an offensive coach. The same goes for Kubiak when all these people used to call him a QB guru. Kubiak never earned that title either.

Huh? Kubiak has consistently gotten the best out of the QBs he's worked with - pro bowl seasons from the likes of Griese, Plummer and Schaub. And sure Young and Elway would be HoF anyway but they both credit him as well.

 

[Texan_fan_13]

has anyone gone back and looked @ mallett in college. I can't help but think alot of this is the receivers. sorry
And he doesn't trust those guys to make the plays so he keeps throwing them short. or in places he doesn't turn it over becauae he's living under the threat of being yanked.
Its really not a way to bring the best out of a QB, I will say that.

 

[Texan_fan_13]

 

[thunderkyss]

has anyone gone back and looked @ mallett in college. I can't help but think alot of this is the receivers. sorry
And he doesn't trust those guys to make the plays so he keeps throwing them short. or in places he doesn't turn it over becauae he's living under the threat of being yanked.
Its really not a way to bring the best out of a QB, I will say that.

I agree with everyone else. Mallett's part of the problem. I'm pretty liberal when I analyse his play, but there are too many times where I can't figure out why he threw it where he threw it, either in the dirt or in the stands, or low & away from the direction a moving WR is going.

At the same time, I'm also seeing things the receivers are doing that also do not make sense.

There's room for improvement all around.

 

[Bulls on Parade]

Agreed. If the injury is the "true story" though, there's no way Mallet is 100% by Thursday. Heck, 75% would be a miracle.

That's another issue nobody seems to be talking about. Ryan Mallett is injured right now and yet O'Brien still plays him? Give the kid a chance. He played hurt against the Falcons. We trailed 42-0 before our offense made some strides in that game once he came out. You're telling me Ryan Mallett is going to be ready for Thursday Night? We're risking getting him dinged up for the season if we're not careful.

 

[Texan_fan_13]

So if i go watch the sugar bowl footage, its similar to some of the things people are saying. So next question, is it something that comes over time.?

These announcers keep singing Mallett's praises if you watch other footage.

Then i go look @ Aaron Rodgers, who was 6-10 and fans were bemoaning in 2008 how horrible he was. Had 3 years to learn and yet couldn't.
I just go back to Bill obrien. if he came in and said this guy was your answer would we not be more willing to accept some of this.
Would we have light Aaron Rodgers on fire in his 6-10 season

Go watch its pretty pathetic... I just don't know what to make of all of this.

 

[Mollywhopper]

So if i go watch the sugar bowl footage, its similar to some of the things people are saying. So next question, is it something that comes over time.?

These announcers keep singing Mallett's praises if you watch other footage.

Then i go look @ Aaron Rodgers, who was 6-10 and fans were bemoaning in 2008 how horrible he was. Had 3 years to learn and yet couldn't.
I just go back to Bill obrien. if he came in and said this guy was your answer would we not be more willing to accept some of this.
Would we have light Aaron Rodgers on fire in his 6-10 season

Go watch its pretty pathetic

I get your point on wanting to let Mallett play it out and see what happens, but 2008 Aaron Rodgers ain't the example.

63% 4,038 yds 28 td 13 int 7.5 ypa 93.8 rating. This isn't a season that begs patience, and it's pretty far from pathetic.

 

[thunderkyss]

Yeah.... that video doesn't help our case.

 

[EVOLVIST]

The media calls him a QB guru, not me. I just question why and don't necessarily see it in his credentials.

As far as Belichick, dude already had two Super Bowl rings as a defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells, so he already had a solid resume as a coordinator. If you look at his career, it goes back to 1975, and he has been an NFL coach ever since (O'Brien, on the other hand, has five years with NE and that's it as far as pro coaching experience).

And Belichick was building something in Cleveland, but just got stopped short by Art Modell's sudden decision to move the team. However, that Ravens team had deep roots going back to the foundation that Belichick was building in Cleveland.

And credit has to be given to Belichick and his staff for even drafting Brady in the 6th round. And Belichick made the bold decision to stick with Brady as a starter when his much more experienced QB returned from injury.

I understood that you we're not crediting OB as a QB guru, and I'm very aware of Belichick's coaching background; nevertheless, the point remains, as a head coach - any head coach, for that matter, with a few exceptions - will rise or fall by the QB they sidle themselves with.

Where experience came into the conversation, I don't know. There have been a lot of inexperienced head coaches on a pro level that have had success. John Madden easily comes to mind.

Credit Belichick all you want, but all those cats did was take a flyer on a 6th round rookie. When Bledsoe went down the media asked Belichick if Brady would continue to start and Belichick responded with, "Well, he's no John Elway."

I'm just saying it's 98% dumb luck. If it weren't for Brady I truly believe that Belichick would be mired in mediocrity for a long, long time, and probably would not be coaching today. If OB took Goff next year and Goff walked on water, we'd all be singing a different tune about OB. Bank on it.

Dumb luck? Who could have predicted JJ Watt could have a chance at being the greatest defensive player to play the game. If Wade Phillips does nothing else the rest of life, you can bet on his deathbed he'll rest in the fact that he drafted Watt. The same with Belichick and Brady.

That said, OB is a loser until he starts winning. Right now he's at .500. Bring in the Colts!

 

[thunderkyss]

I get your point on wanting to let Mallett play it out and see what happens, but 2008 Aaron Rodgers ain't the example.

63% 4,038 yds 28 td 13 int 7.5 ypa 93.8 rating. This isn't a season that begs patience, and it's pretty far from pathetic.

I don't know about that. Rodgers had 5 games that season with less than 60% completions, seven games under 7.0 ypa, & 4 games with a passer rating less than 80.

 

[Mollywhopper]

I don't know about that. Rodgers had 5 games that season with less than 60% completions, seven games under 7.0 ypa, & 4 games with a passer rating less than 80.

Ok. So what? Those numbers aren't necesarrily hit on the nose game in and game out to be deemed succesful.

On the whole he graded out a completely legit up & comer. Saying 2008 was pathetic for him is asinine.

 

[Texan_fan_13]

Yeah.... that video doesn't help our case.

Listen to the commentary. They blamed the receivers. Two clear touchdown drops. Blah blah. You know last year we had Andre Johnson, who actually like Mallett.
I just hate to throw the baby out with the bath water when we really have nothing to lose. Either Malletts it or your Draft Goff/Cook (NO HACKENBERG my biggest fear).
Where is the problem in this?

And one more thing. IM sick of hearing how complex this offense is. Maybe we should go simpler (and get rid of gotsey) because we don't have well lets say Tom Brady. And maybe this oly works in practice, sorta like hoyer. And to add, we aren't the NE Patriots and this acting like Bellicheck is half the problem. Stop with the secret agent man crap and be front facing with the fans. They would be more supportive. Throwing Mallett (or hoyer) under the bus like there is some other red shirt freshman sitting on the sidelines to save the day is insane. There are alot of these coaches that seem to have smartest man in room syndrome and unfortunately our coach seems to be one of them. Very very frustated with all of this.

And what if we do have the second coming of Aaron Rodgers. Go listen to how harsh the fans were on him. He lost multiple games with turnovers. But management was committed to it. And now we all envy what they have.

 

[thunderkyss]

Ok. So what? Those numbers aren't necesarrily hit on the nose game in and game out to be deemed succesful.

On the whole he graded out a completely legit up & comer. Saying 2008 was pathetic for him is asinine.

My point was that Aaron Rodgers is a decent comparison. The stats you provided were over a 16 game period where Rodgers had games comparable (not nearly as bad) to Mallett's four.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Maybe we have a Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn situation? Somebody check him for glasses.

And I like the name... would be awesome if they could play Wild Thing when the offense comes out. Maybe change the words a little...

"Wild thing... you make my hands sting.... you miss everything... etc. etc."

Disclaimer - This is all in jest, I think you continue to roll with Mallet. Everyone knows what Hoyer is. Mallet, I don't know maybe being on the shelf behind Brady for so many years (a starter that likes to take all the snaps in practice) he is rusty.

 

[thunderkyss]

Listen to the commentary. They blamed the receivers. Two clear touchdown drops. Blah blah. You know last year we had Andre Johnson, who actually like Mallett.

Was it the Arkansas broadcast? Too many bad throws in that game. Receivers at fault, sure. But the Razorbacks (8) kept getting further & further behind. Then when they're within winning distance, Mallett throws an ill advised pass that's picked off, seals the game.

The Almost QB.

I say this as a guy who had high hopes for Mallett. A guy who wants to believe that grooming a guy with 1st round talent is the right way to do it.

 

[Texan_fan_13]

Was it the Arkansas broadcast? Too many bad throws in that game. Receivers at fault, sure. But the Razorbacks (8) kept getting further & further behind. Then when they're within winning distance, Mallett throws an ill advised pass that's picked off, seals the game.

The Almost QB.

I say this as a guy who had high hopes for Mallett. A guy who wants to believe that grooming a guy with 1st round talent is the right way to do it.

This was the national broadcast of the sugarbowl.

 

[thunderkyss]

Maybe we have a Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn situation? Somebody check him for glasses.

And I like the name... would be awesome if they could play Wild Thing when the offense comes out. Maybe change the words a little...

"Wild thing... you make my hands sting.... you miss everything... etc. etc."

Disclaimer - This is all in jest, I think you continue to roll with Mallet. Everyone knows what Hoyer is. Mallet, I don't know maybe being on the shelf behind Brady for so many years (a starter that likes to take all the snaps in practice) he is rusty.

I think it would be cool. See what kind of humor Mallett has.

 

[DocBar]

Here's a thought...start Hoyer on Thursday, tell him it's a closed practice and that all the fans are there just to simulate crowd noise in a more realistic manner than pumping it in. That oughta do it!!

 

[Mollywhopper]

My point was that Aaron Rodgers is a decent comparison. The stats you provided were over a 16 game period where Rodgers had games comparable (not nearly as bad) to Mallett's four.

My point was that it's not a good comparison. For starters, like you said, he didn't have games as bad. As well as the fact that right out of the gate he had games that not only flashed, but without a doubt showed the promise he had.

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111.5
104.2

That's not over a 16 game season. That's a couple hiccups in an otherwise as promising as it gets start to a career. And it's certainly not comporable to what we're going through with Mallett.

And I've been completely supportive of Mallett. It's just not a good comparison.

 

[mussop]

My point was that it's not a good comparison. For starters, like you said, he didn't have games as bad. As well as the fact that right out of the gate he had games that not only flashed, but without a doubt showed the promise he had.

115.5
117.0
80.1
55.9
109.4
111.5
104.2

That's not over a 16 game season. That's a couple hiccups in an otherwise as promising as it gets start to a career. And it's certainly not comporable to what we're going through with Mallett.

And I've been completely supportive of Mallett. It's just not a good comparison.

I'll go ahead and throw some "excuses" atcha. Was he dealing with a makeshift line, his only good RB on the bench, not one legitimate te on the roster and WRs that can't get separation or catch the ball? Just sayin!

 

[thunderkyss]

My point was that it's not a good comparison. For starters, like you said, he didn't have games as bad. As well as the fact that right out of the gate he had games that not only flashed, but without a doubt showed the promise he had.

115.5
117.0
80.1
55.9
109.4
111.5
104.2

That's not over a 16 game season. That's a couple hiccups in an otherwise as promising as it gets start to a career. And it's certainly not comporable to what we're going through with Mallett.

And I've been completely supportive of Mallett. It's just not a good comparison.

Yes. Aaron Rodgers' career started out much better than Ryan Mallett's. I'm not trying to make excuses for Mallett as to why that is the case.

I don't know about that. Rodgers had 5 games that season with less than 60% completions, seven games under 7.0 ypa, & 4 games with a passer rating less than 80.

Ryan Mallett is not Aaron Rodgers & most likely never will be. But the greatest of all time had several bad games. I don't understand why we're having such a hard time expecting our next stop gap to struggle knowing we're giving him a lot of reasons he should be struggling.

 

[Mollywhopper]

Ryan Mallett is not Aaron Rodgers & most likely never will be. But the greatest of all time had several bad games. I don't understand why we're having such a hard time expecting our next stop gap to struggle knowing we're giving him a lot of reasons he should be struggling.

I can't speak for anyone else, but it's not so much Mallett's struggles that are bothersome. I expected struggles from him. It's that the flashes have been fewer and further between than expected. I don't know if he's even up to more than a handful of throws that've made me say "ya, thre's the guy I wanted". That to me is where the disappointment lies.

That said I'm all in favor of lining him up again on Thurs., assuming he's healthy, and telling him to go sling it. Sh*t, we're not canceling any parades otherwise. And of course maybe, just maybe, some kind of physical, mental, psychological, competitive, or any of the above lightbulb will go off and the kid will get at least get hot enough that we can have a little fun before draftpartytime. I guess I'm still holding out some hope for him.

 

[speedfreek]

It's amazing how many of those arky receivers were catching the ball with their bodies.
Looks a lot like they knew the ball would be too hot to catch with their hands..

 

[DocBar]

I can't speak for anyone else, but it's not so much Mallett's struggles that are bothersome. I expected struggles from him. It's that the flashes have been fewer and further between than expected. I don't know if he's even up to more than a handful of throws that've made me say "ya, thre's the guy I wanted". That to me is where the disappointment lies.

That said I'm all in favor of lining him up again on Thurs., assuming he's healthy, and telling him to go sling it. Sh*t, we're not canceling any parades otherwise. And of course maybe, just maybe, some kind of physical, mental, psychological, competitive, or any of the above lightbulb will go off and the kid will get at least get hot enough that we can have a little fun before draftpartytime. I guess I'm still holding out some hope for him.

It's Mallet's struggles with basic mechanics that stick out. How can a QB be that many years into the NFL and struggle with basic QB skills? Footwork after how many years? Unacceptable.

 

[Scooter]

After completing the ALL 22 QB cutups, I counted 9 drops by receivers while Mallet was playing. 1 of which was the Interception to start the game which hit Hopkins right in the numbers. Hoyer had 2 more drops during his time.

This is why I can't join the hate Mallett wagon just yet. Obviously he needs to play better, but it's dang near impossible to do with our ridiculous number of drops. A young quarterback is going to look like crap when drives go nowhere due to 3rd down drops, and the offense is going to grind to a halt no matter who's throwing the ball if it keeps happening at this pace. Having the league's worst starting field position isn't helping matters either.