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Malcolm Jenkins

nunusguy said:
OK O-M, you keep telling yourself that next year in the unlikely but possible
scenario where we draft Jenkins and the Jags draft Jeremy MaCLin and our rookie CB finds himself in a situation where he has man-coverage on their rookie WR on a fly-pattern from the Jags 30.
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Jenkins clobbers Maclin within 5 yards buying time for our Dline to sack da quarterback.:specnatz:
 
nunusguy said:
OK O-M, you keep telling yourself that next year in the unlikely but possible
scenario where we draft Jenkins and the Jags draft Jeremy MaCLin and our rookie CB finds himself in a situation where he has man-coverage on their rookie WR on a fly-pattern from the Jags 30.
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You would figure the game tape would show Jenkins getting beat deep early and often...I mean he runs a slow 40 for a CB and he plays at a big program that plays NFL talent pretty consistently. Why hasn't anyone seen this glaring weakness on the game tape yet? I mean its plain as day when he's working out in shorts!!!
 
nunusguy said:
OK O-M, you keep telling yourself that next year in the unlikely but possible
scenario where we draft Jenkins and the Jags draft Jeremy MaCLin and our rookie CB finds himself in a situation where he has man-coverage on their rookie WR on a fly-pattern from the Jags 30.
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I'd expect safety help over the top when there's a speed WR going deep. I don't care if that Safety is there helping Jenkins, another rookie CB (who has the fastest 40 time?), Reeves, Bennett, Molden, Faggins or Dunta Robinson.

I'm not pretending Jenkins is going to come in and be a lockdown corner that never gets beat, I'm simply trying to show that there are more important qualities in a conerback that prevents him from getting beat deep. Those are technique and play recognition as well as quickness. Just think about exactly what the 40 yard dash is. Running straight. A corner that is going to be running straight is already beat.

Now if we want to get into if Jenkins' strengths and weaknesses fit what we want our corners to be doing then that's great. Because quite frankly, I have no idea. To me, it seems most of Jenkins' highlights are when the play is in front of him. He's able to jump the route or support the run. To me this seems like he may be better suited for a zone coverage scheme. That doesn't mean he can't play man. Any idea what we're going to be running? I assume more man coverages but I'm not sure. Also just because he may be better with the play in front of him doesn't mean they would be a good safety.
 
Jenkins would easily be the best player on the board at 15.

His 4.51 combine time is plenty fast to be a man cover guy. Even more important is his 10 and 20 yard splits, cone and shuttle drills.

Jenkins
10: 1.47
20: 2.62
40: 4.51

Cone: 6.59
Shuttle: 4.08
 
MojoMan said:
Now that's what I am talking about!

1. CB
2. OLB
3. RB
4. OL

If the coaches are confident that is worthy of the #15 pick overall, this would be a great choice.
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I'd like to pick him up, but I still don't see him falling that far. Most NFL scouts/GMs don't suddenly forget that a guy was an elite prospect before he ran .06 slower than expected.

If he's there I think he would be a great pick, and finally give the Texans the #1 corner they have lacked since Glenn was cut.
 
Goatcheese said:
I'd like to pick him up, but I still don't see him falling that far. Most NFL scouts/GMs don't suddenly forget that a guy was an elite prospect before he ran .06 slower than expected.

If he's there I think he would be a great pick, and finally give the Texans the #1 corner they have lacked since Glenn was cut.
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I like our CBs and have Jenkins as my FS who can also play CB. I think Molden may surprise some people although there is nothing to support this, other than coaches really like him. CB Reeves, Dunta, Bennett,Wilson and Molden with Jenkins and Ferguson at FS and each can also play CB.
 
I've read a lot posts (in other threads) about how Jenkins got beat so badly during the Fiesta Bowl this year. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you want the guy who got burned for every big play, look no further than #5 Chimdi Chekwa. Jenkins was rarely lined up on Cosby. The one play Jenkins failed at was a crossing pattern from the 7 yard line. Cosby cut inside and Jenkins ran into a pick by his own LB... couldn't recover and Cosby found the hole between the other LBs. GREAT play by Cosby/McCoy. But that was pretty much the only knock against Jenkins during that game.


I really think Jenkins could be the answer this year if there ever was one. It seems there are only going to be a handful of players that the Texans really like. After that, and in the likely case they're all gone... we'll want to trade down. I think trading down could be pretty difficult though.

If Jenkins starts slipping, New Orleans is the likely candidate. I'm not sure he even makes it there though. I'd be willing to give up our 4th round pick to move up for this guy if he's the last top talent the Texans have on their board. I'd rather give that up than take the risk of being stuck at #15 and having to take a much lower talent, regardless of position.

I'm a guy who cringes at the idea of giving up draft picks to move up for one player. Especially with Kubiak/Smith's ability to get such great talent. But I think that highly of Jenkins for this team and we the FA moves we've already made. Especially when considering what other players we'd run the likelihood of taking at #15 if we can't trade down.

I think Jenkins could be a longterm starter for us. We have no idea if we'll reach a deal with Dunta. In the case we don't because they see a lot of progress from Bennett again. I think having Jenkins/Bennett starting would bring us great size and I think Reeves is perfectly suited for the nickle. Throw Dunta back in the scenario and I think we'd have a killer secondary (esp. considering we'd probably get a S in this draft too).
 
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Ole Miss Texan said:
I've read a lot posts (in other threads) about how Jenkins got beat so badly during the Fiesta Bowl this year. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you want the guy who got burned for every big play, look no further than #5 Lawrence Wilson. Jenkins was rarely lined up on Cosby. The one play Jenkins failed at was a crossing pattern from the 7 yard line. Cosby cut inside and Jenkins ran into a pick by his own LB... couldn't recover and Cosby found the hole between the other LBs. GREAT play by Cosby/McCoy. But that was pretty much the only knock against Jenkins during that game.


I really think Jenkins could be the answer this year if there ever was one. It seems there are only going to be a handful of players that the Texans really like. After that, and in the likely case they're all gone... we'll want to trade down. I think trading down could be pretty difficult though.

If Jenkins starts slipping, New Orleans is the likely candidate. I'm not sure he even makes it there though. I'd be willing to give up our 4th round pick to move up for this guy if he's the last top talent the Texans have on their board. I'd rather give that up than take the risk of being stuck at #15 and having to take a much lower talent, regardless of position.

I'm a guy who cringes at the idea of giving up draft picks to move up for one player. Especially with Kubiak/Smith's ability to get such great talent. But I think that highly of Jenkins for this team and we the FA moves we've already made. Especially when considering what other players we'd run the likelihood of taking at #15 if we can't trade down.

I think Jenkins could be a longterm starter for us. We have no idea if we'll reach a deal with Dunta. In the case we don't because they see a lot of progress from Bennett again. I think having Jenkins/Bennett starting would bring us great size and I think Reeves is perfectly suited for the nickle. Throw Dunta back in the scenario and I think we'd have a killer secondary (esp. considering we'd probably get a S in this draft too).
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I've seen the same posts and tried to respond to them but to no avail.

The casual fan sees his 40 time and decides that he obviously sucks.

OMT, we were the only two on the board who got Cason right last year. Hopefully we aren't the only two this year that can look past Jenkins' 40 time and see the great player that he is.
 
Jenkins matured early, he's hit his ceiling so to speak, the potential going forward is not up like Vontae Davis, Darius Butler or even Alphonso Smith. so he goes to a team who has a need @ CB, he'll do fine & be a solid NFL corner but I'd be very surprised if he develops into something special.
 
I think Jenkins is going to be a beast. Physical tools +natural instincts+smart = beast
 
I too thought Cason with his college production and top intangibles would have made a good pick for the Texans last year. If Jenkins is there at 15, I would love the Texans to get him because he has a proven track record and could offer some flexibility to play either CB or S. Either way he would contribute right away. I'm hoping the Texans are looking to pick up proven players at there position instead of project players (Matthews, Maybin). I actually wouldn't mind Laurinitis, especially after a trade down, for the same reasons. Both Jenkins and Laurinitis would have probably gone in the top 10 if they had come out a year earlier.
 
bah007 said:
I've seen the same posts and tried to respond to them but to no avail.

The casual fan sees his 40 time and decides that he obviously sucks.

OMT, we were the only two on the board who got Cason right last year. Hopefully we aren't the only two this year that can look past Jenkins' 40 time and see the great player that he is.
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I called Cason a first rounder last year too.I think he plays faster that his forty time suggest because he's got the instincts to play the position. He's also solid in run support.
 
I think Jenkins has the ability to be an everydown starting CB for our team. Be it our #1 or our #2 CB.

I see Butler, Smith and Moore more suited for nickle kind of CBs. Sure they could be electrifying and real playmakers but I think Jenkins has the best possibility of being effective on our team (esp. w/ our current CBs) and playing more snaps than the others.

I don't think Davis is on our radar. He would not mesh well with our coaches.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I think Jenkins has the ability to be an everydown starting CB for our team. Be it our #1 or our #2 CB.

I see Butler, Smith and Moore more suited for nickle kind of CBs. Sure they could be electrifying and real playmakers but I think Jenkins has the best possibility of being effective on our team (esp. w/ our current CBs) and playing more snaps than the others.

I don't think Davis is on our radar. He would not mesh well with our coaches.
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I was thinking about Vontae Davis the other day and I'm not sure I can write him off like that. We have all heard about the character concerns but if we draft him I will be fine with the pick because it would mean that our FO trusts him and I trust the judgment of our FO.

As for Jenkins I would love it if he fell to us. He didn't run a great 40 time but it wasn't terribly slow and his 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone times were fantastic. He is a little bit like Brandon Flowers last year, but with better size, slightly better straight line speed and cone/shuttle times and no character concerns. Ironically Flowers played for coach Gibbs in KC last year and was terrific as a rookie.
 
My impression of Jenkins is that he's a DB version of Antonio Smith in the sense of his versatility.
Smith can play on the edge or move inside as a DT, whereas Jenkins can play
corner or FS. Neither player is exceptional at either of their 2 respective positions but perhaps competant.
 
IMO, Butler has the best skill set of the CB bunch. His size is the only thing people can base their arguements against him being the top CB. He's the same size as Dunta.
 
HOU-TEX said:
IMO, Butler has the best skill set of the CB bunch. His size is the only thing people can base their arguements against him being the top CB. He's the same size as Dunta.
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I agree to an extent. The main knock from fans on Butler is his size, but he played some bad games this year as well.

You can see it when you watch him play. He still has some things to learn.

I like him. I think his superior vertical negates the height issue. He has all the tools to be a top man coverage corner, but he will need help getting there.

Based on full potential he is my number 2 CB behind Davis, and if we go CB in the 1st in this draft I like him over everyone but Jenkins.
 
It is interesting to review old threads and see what I posted. I'm a big Jenkins fan. Not so sure that he would beat out our starting CBs (do we know for sure who they will be?). However, I would move him to FS. I posted earlier I would use him as a CB but enough others think he would be perfect in safety role. I like him over Davis but some say Davis will be selected first. I was hoping Sanchez would still be on board @ 15 to encourage trade ups for us but Kiper and Maycock think he will go much higher. I had gotten out of the funk I was in about a month ago that most significant players would be gone at #15, but I'm slipping that way again.
 
I remember Quan Cosby, the LSU & FLA receivers having their way with Jenkins. No thanks.

I liked Cason last year because he was a playmaker against PAC 10 receivers who are superior to Big 11 receivers IMO.

Jenkins struggled with SEC & Big 12 receivers too. Go back & look at film against those two confrences. It isn't pretty.

Jenkins is OK but not # 15 OK.

We need to spend # 15 on a player that can pressure the QB. You're not going to out cover Manning, Brady and Warner. They will pick your CB's apart.

Pressure Pressure Pressure that's the name of the game.
 
steelbtexan said:
I remember Quan Cosby, the LSU & FLA receivers having their way with Jenkins. No thanks.

I liked Cason last year because he was a playmaker against PAC 10 receivers who are superior to Big 11 receivers IMO.

Jenkins struggled with SEC & Big 12 receivers too. Go back & look at film against those two confrences. It isn't pretty.

Jenkins is OK but not # 15 OK.

We need to spend # 15 on a player that can pressure the QB. You're not going to out cover Manning, Brady and Warner. They will pick your CB's apart.

Pressure Pressure Pressure that's the name of the game.
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You have no argument because Jenkins didn't cover Cosby exclusively in the Fiesta Bowl.

Ohio St tried to move Jenkins around and when we was on the left we threw to the right. When he was on the right we threw to the left. I think Jenkins gave up two catches in the Fiesta Bowl, and one was because his OLB got in his way (which OMT already alluded to). Most of our passing plays were changed pre-snap by McCoy based on where Jenkins was lined up. We were very confident that if Jenkins was on Cosby that Shipley would get open and if Jenkins was on Shipley that Cosby would get open.

Against LSU in the national championship Jenkins covered Brandon LaFell and gave up 2 catches for 15 yards and a TD.

Against Florida in the national championship Jenkins covered Andre Caldwell and gave up 2 catches for 6 yards and a TD.

Oh yea. Looks like he got smoked. The only argument you might have using those games is that he gave up two redzone TD's in three games.

The bolded part is the only part that I agree with.
 
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bah007 said:
You have no argument because Jenkins didn't cover Cosby exclusively in the Fiesta Bowl.

Ohio St tried to move Jenkins around and when we was on the left we threw to the right. When he was on the right we threw to the left. I think Jenkins gave up two catches in the Fiesta Bowl, and one was because his OLB got in his way (which OMT already alluded to). Most of our passing plays were changed pre-snap by McCoy based on where Jenkins was lined up. We were very confident that if Jenkins was on Cosby that Shipley would get open and if Jenkins was on Shipley that Cosby would get open.

Against LSU in the national championship Jenkins covered Brandon LaFell and gave up 2 catches for 15 yards and a TD.

Against Florida in the national championship Jenkins covered Andre Caldwell and gave up 2 catches for 6 yards and a TD.

Oh yea. Looks like he got smoked. The only argument you might have using those games is that he gave up two redzone TD's in three games.

The bolded part is the only part that I agree with.
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Thanks bah... this idea that Jenkins got smoke throughout the year is one of those misconceptions that gets passed around the internet.

Going back to the recent game against Texas which we've covered... He also broke up the pass in the endzone against #4 (name is escaping me). I thought Jenkins actually had a good game dispite what everyone else is saying. Knocked the crud out of McCoy on that one play (fumble/incompletion?)

Florida- BCS championship: from the 1 yard line (?) I wasn't sure if it was the TE or just a really big WR... he was lined up on the outside. Speedy WR came in motion behind the LOS and ran behind the 2 receivers on the left catching the wide open TD pass. Jenkins maintained coverage of his man on the outside who turned around about 5 ft inside the endzone. Jenkins very well could have had the responsibility to shift over to the the wr but the whole defense was going towards the QB... looks if he did then his original guy would have been wide open for an easy TD.

LSU- BCS championship game: from the 10 yard line(?) looked like lafell started in the slot and ran towards the corner of the endzone. Jenkins was on him until the last second where lafell got nice separation and caught a perfectly thrown ball over his far shoulder. Great throw/catch but Jenkins should of stopped it. Jenkins also had an INT off Matt Flynn too if i'm not mistaken.

In anycase, Jenkins is unfairly getting criticized. Teams threw away from him so much this year. #5 Chimdi Chekwa? and #21 Andy Russell were consistently picked on and gave up virtually every big passing play this year.

Let's not forget the Ohio State vs. USC game this year where the Trojans slaughtered the buckeyes 35-3. I don't think Jenkins gave up one big play all game.
Scouts put extra emphasis on how the top prospects perform in the big games, and a scout who attended the Ohio State-Southern California clash last September characterized Jenkins to me as "the best player on the field." Considering the talent on those two rosters, that's saying something. - Rob Rang, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com
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So I guess (for that game) Jenkins > Wells, Sanchez, Maualuga, Cushing, Matthews, Mays and Griffen.
 
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Jenkins' 2008 stats:
57 tackles
9 pass break ups
3 interceptions
3 forced fumbles
2 kick/punt blocks
4.5 tackles for loss
1 sack


Darius Butler's 2008 stats:
40 tackles
4 pass break ups
0 interceptions
0 forced fumbles
0 kick/punt blocks
3 tackles for loss
0 sacks
** also played offense: 1 rushing TD (2 attempts) and 1 receiving TD (9 receptions)
**23 yard kick off return avg. off 20 returns
 
Some of these stats may have been mentioned previously. All from http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563623

2008:
Held the opposition to 230 yards and no touchdowns on 30 catches of 60 passes targeted into his area (7.67 yards per completion/3.83 yards per pass attempt) … Registered 22 third-down stops, including 18 vs. the pass … Did not allow his main pass coverage assignment to catch any passes in seven contests, as those receivers managed just seven receptions for 66 yards (9.43 yards per completion).
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Games:
Youngstown State- Didn't allow a single reception and had 2 pass break ups (both on 3rd downs).
Ohio U- Main coverage assignment had 0 receptions vs. him, MJ had 1 pass break up and 1 interception.
Southern Cal- Season career 10 tackles (6 solo). Committed 2 penalties that ended up leading to scores (offsides and facemask). Main coverage assignment (Turner) had 1 reception for 18 yards vs. him.
Minnesota- Had 1 sack causing a fumble late in the 3rd qtr. Main coverage assignment had 1 reception for 4 yards vs. him
Wisconsin- Main coverage assignment had 1 catch for 8 yards vs. him. Deflected a pass and made an INT with 1 minute left in the game to preserve a 20-17 win.
Purdue- Jenkins registered three third-down stops and another on fourth down, also blocked a punt, intercepted a pass and deflected another. Main coverage assignment did not have any receptions vs. him.
Michigan State - Jenkins made two third-down hits and rerouted his coverage assignment three times while delivering nine tackles (7 solos) with an 8-yard sack and a forced fumble … MSU was forced to punt late in the first quarter after the OSU cornerback took down All-American tailback Javon Ringer for a 3-yard loss … Sacked QB Kirk Cousins for an 8-yard loss on third-&-11, causing a fumble that OSU recovered for a touchdown … main coverage assignment did not catch any passes vs. him.
Penn State [/B- Rerouted receivers away from two passes and made three third-down hits among his four tackles, main coverage assignment caught one pass for 4 yards vs. him.
Northwestern - Caused 1 fumble, main coverage assignment: caught two passes for 27 yards vs. him.
Illinois - Blocked a late first quarter punt that resulted in a safety and deflected three passes, main coverage assignment did not catch any passes.
Michigan - The defensive captain made five tackles, including three on third-down plays that forced the Wolverines to punt after each occasion … Brought the crowd to its feet when he came out of nowhere to knock a Nick Sheridan pass out of the hands of Greg Matthews midway through the final quarter … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#13-Greg Matthews (6:03-207)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.
Texas (Fiesta Bowl) … Jenkins closed out his career with three tackles, including an assist in stopping fullback Chris Ogbonnaya for a 1-yard loss on a rushing attempt to start the second quarter … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#3-Jordan Shipley (6:00-197)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Some of these stats may have been mentioned previously. All from http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563623

2008:


Games:
Youngstown State- Didn't allow a single reception and had 2 pass break ups (both on 3rd downs).
Ohio U- Main coverage assignment had 0 receptions vs. him, MJ had 1 pass break up and 1 interception.
Southern Cal- Season career 10 tackles (6 solo). Committed 2 penalties that ended up leading to scores (offsides and facemask). Main coverage assignment (Turner) had 1 reception for 18 yards vs. him.
Minnesota- Had 1 sack causing a fumble late in the 3rd qtr. Main coverage assignment had 1 reception for 4 yards vs. him
Wisconsin- Main coverage assignment had 1 catch for 8 yards vs. him. Deflected a pass and made an INT with 1 minute left in the game to preserve a 20-17 win.
Purdue- Jenkins registered three third-down stops and another on fourth down, also blocked a punt, intercepted a pass and deflected another. Main coverage assignment did not have any receptions vs. him.
Michigan State - Jenkins made two third-down hits and rerouted his coverage assignment three times while delivering nine tackles (7 solos) with an 8-yard sack and a forced fumble … MSU was forced to punt late in the first quarter after the OSU cornerback took down All-American tailback Javon Ringer for a 3-yard loss … Sacked QB Kirk Cousins for an 8-yard loss on third-&-11, causing a fumble that OSU recovered for a touchdown … main coverage assignment did not catch any passes vs. him.
Penn State [/B- Rerouted receivers away from two passes and made three third-down hits among his four tackles, main coverage assignment caught one pass for 4 yards vs. him.
Northwestern - Caused 1 fumble, main coverage assignment: caught two passes for 27 yards vs. him.
Illinois - Blocked a late first quarter punt that resulted in a safety and deflected three passes, main coverage assignment did not catch any passes.
Michigan - The defensive captain made five tackles, including three on third-down plays that forced the Wolverines to punt after each occasion … Brought the crowd to its feet when he came out of nowhere to knock a Nick Sheridan pass out of the hands of Greg Matthews midway through the final quarter … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#13-Greg Matthews (6:03-207)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.
Texas (Fiesta Bowl) … Jenkins closed out his career with three tackles, including an assist in stopping fullback Chris Ogbonnaya for a 1-yard loss on a rushing attempt to start the second quarter … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#3-Jordan Shipley (6:00-197)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.
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Yea but he ran a 4.54. He sucks.
 
bah007 said:
He won't.

I pegged Cason last year and I'm pegging Jenkins right now. Top 10 pick. Take it to the bank.
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But I can't say that I was impressed with the 10-tackle game though.
That one I did watch a couple of times, and didn't know what to think of it!
 
Malcolm Jenkins coverage stats from 2008:

"Held the opposition to 230 yards and no touchdowns on 30 catches of 60 passes targeted into his area (7.67 yards per completion/3.83 yards per pass attempt)...Registered 22 third-down stops, including 18 vs. the pass...Did not allow his main pass coverage assignment to catch any passes in seven contests, as those receivers managed just seven receptions for 66 yards (9.43 yards per completion)..." - nfl draft scout

Shut down corner thy name is Jenkins.
 
76Texan said:
But I can't say that I was impressed with the 10-tackle game though.
That one I did watch a couple of times, and didn't know what to think of it!
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I thought Ohio St's defense played decent in that game and I actually thought Jenkins played pretty damn good.

Too bad their offense could only muster 3 yards per play and gave away 3 turnovers.

Arizona and Arizona St were the only teams that held USC to less yards per play than Ohio St did.
 
All I know is the Texans always draft guys that the fans/media NEVER talk about. The only guy in recent memory is Eric Winston.
 
bah007 said:
I thought Ohio St's defense played decent in that game and I actually thought Jenkins played pretty damn good.

Too bad their offense could only muster 3 yards per play and gave away 3 turnovers.

Arizona and Arizona St were the only teams that held USC to less yards per play than Ohio St did.
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I guess I'm terribly difficult, 'cause I wasn't impressed by the SC LB corp in that game either, with Beanie out and all.

I imagine that you're right. Considering the score, his plays were as good as a defensive player can claim. I'm pretty sure I have to give him better than a C, probably a B-
 
Goatcheese said:
Malcolm Jenkins coverage stats from 2008:

"Held the opposition to 230 yards and no touchdowns on 30 catches of 60 passes targeted into his area (7.67 yards per completion/3.83 yards per pass attempt)...Registered 22 third-down stops, including 18 vs. the pass...Did not allow his main pass coverage assignment to catch any passes in seven contests, as those receivers managed just seven receptions for 66 yards (9.43 yards per completion)..." - nfl draft scout

Shut down corner thy name is Jenkins.
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Goat, I don't study Jenkins, so I don't know.
But just curious, who all was he guarding?
 
76Texan said:
I guess I'm terribly difficult, 'cause I wasn't impressed by the SC LB corp in that game either, with Beanie out and all.

I imagine that you're right. Considering the score, his plays were as good as a defensive player can claim. I'm pretty sure I have to give him better than a C, probably a B-
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I feel you. It's hard to give a high grade when the team loses by 32.
 
Im not doubting that he'll be good. Im just not a fan of drafting a college corner, and switching him to a position he rarely plays, at 15. IMO thats taking a huge gamble financially....

DE/OLB to me isnt too much of a switch, but even then a lot of guys dont pan out ex. Vernon Gholston.
 
RipTraxx said:
Im not doubting that he'll be good. Im just not a fan of drafting a college corner, and switching him to a position he rarely plays, at 15. IMO thats taking a huge gamble financially....

DE/OLB to me isnt too much of a switch, but even then a lot of guys dont pan out ex. Vernon Gholston.
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That's why I wouldn't switch his position. Fellow Ohio St. alumni Chris Gamble (CB Carolina) only ran a 4.52 in the 40. He is one of the best corners in the NFL today.

Jenkins is plenty fast to play corner. The difference between his 4.51 and Nnamdi Asomugha's 4.45 is about 18 inches over 40 yards. He will have to be careful and stay out of the trail technique, but other than that it shouldn't significantly limit him.

His agility drills are better than last years freak DRC by more than a tenth of a second.
 
I think people are making too much of a big deal over the 40 time. Sure, speed is important, but instincts, technique and agility are more important. He has proven that he is a good player, someone is going to get a solid 10 year starter with Jenkins.
 
76Texan said:
Goat, I don't study Jenkins, so I don't know.
But just curious, who all was he guarding?
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Actually I take that back, just found this:

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Youngstown State … Jenkins did not allow a reception while breaking up two passes, both coming on third-down plays … Forced YSU to punt after breaking up a Todd Rowan third-&-13 pass midway through the first quarter and did it again on a third-&-10 snap with 1:55 left in the third frame … Also killed a fourth quarter possession when he prevented Dom Barnes from getting to a third-&-11 pass … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#1-Ferlando Williams (6:01-190)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.

Ohio University … Jenkins picked off a pass, deflected another, jammed his coverage assignment on three incomplete throws and tackled Chris Garrett for a 3-yard loss on a second quarter swing pass … Three of his hits came on third-down plays, as he also intercepted Boo Jackson's third-&-10 second quarter pass at the OSU 39 … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#7-LaVon Brazil (5:11-189)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.

Southern California … It was a game the All-American would just as soon forget, as his two penalties led to Trojan touchdowns in a 35-3 loss … Her jumped offside on a late first quarter third-&-4 pass attempt and QB Mark Sanchez followed with a 35-yard scoring strike to Stanley Havili … Jenkins was charged with a face mask penalty on an 18-yard catch by Patrick Turner, setting up Sanchez' 24-yard touchdown toss … Jenkins made a season-high ten tackles (6 solos) for the day … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#1-Patrick Turner (6:05-220)-caught one pass for 18 yards vs. Jenkins.

Minnesota … In the Buckeyes' opening of Big Ten competition, Jenkins posted four solo tackles … Late in the third quarter, a corner blitz saw Jenkins chase down QB Adam Weber for a 10-yard loss, causing a fumble that OSU recovered at the Gophers 25 … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#81-Ralph Spry (5:11-179)-caught one pass for 4 yards vs. Jenkins.

Wisconsin … Jenkins picked off a pass, deflected another and made four tackles … He brought out the Badgers punting unit after rerouting Isaac Anderson from a third-&-6 incomplete pass at the start of the second half … With 1:03 left in the game, he preserved a 20-17 decision when he picked off an Allan Evridge pass for a 7-yard return and the Buckeyes ran out the clock … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#6-Isaac Anderson (5:11-176)-caught one pass for 8 yards vs. Jenkins.

Purdue … Jenkins registered three third-down stops and another on fourth down among his four solo tackles, as he also blocked a punt, intercepted a pass and deflected another in a 23-7 triumph … after Purdue's game-opening possession failed, he blocked a Chris Summers punt that OSU recovered for a touchdown … At the start of the second quarter, he picked off a third-&-9 toss by Curtis Painter at the Purdue 30 … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#19-Brandon Whittington (6:02-213)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.

Michigan State … Jenkins made two third-down hits and rerouted his coverage assignment three times while delivering nine tackles (7 solos) with an 8-yard sack and a forced fumble … MSU was forced to punt late in the first quarter after the OSU cornerback took down All-American tailback Javon Ringer for a 3-yard loss … Sacked QB Kirk Cousins for an 8-yard loss on third-&-11, causing a fumble that OSU recovered for a touchdown … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#3-B.J. Cunningham (6:02-207)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.

Penn State … The field cornerback rerouted receivers away from two passes and made three third-down hits among his four tackles … In the fourth quarter, he stopped Evan Royster on a third-&-10 catch-&-run that netted just 7 yards, bringing out PSU's punting squad … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#3-Deon Butler (5:10-168)-caught one pass for 4 yards vs. Jenkins.

Northwestern … Jenkins followed with seven tackles (3 solos), as he also caused a fumble when he knocked the ball out of Eric Peterman's hands after a 5-yard catch and the Buck-eyes recovered it to set up a 33-yard field goal … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#10-Eric Peterman (6:01-195)-caught two passes for 27 yards vs. Jenkins.

Illinois … Jenkins registered just two tackles, but he blocked a late first quarter punt that resulted in a safety and deflected three passes … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#13-Will Judson (5:08-163)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.

Michigan … The defensive captain made five tackles, including three on third-down plays that forced the Wolverines to punt after each occasion … Brought the crowd to its feet when he came out of nowhere to knock a Nick Sheridan pass out of the hands of Greg Matthews midway through the final quarter … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#13-Greg Matthews (6:03-207)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.

Texas (Fiesta Bowl) … Jenkins closed out his career with three tackles, including an assist in stopping fullback Chris Ogbonnaya for a 1-yard loss on a rushing attempt to start the second quarter … Main Pass Coverage Assignment: WR#3-Jordan Shipley (6:00-197)-did not catch any passes vs. Jenkins.
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Better?
 
Goat those stats are skewed

Why did Jenkins always cover the weaker receiver?

I will point out the 4 games that I'm familiar with

OSU vs USC Jenkins covered Turner instead of no.1 Williams
OSU vs Penn St Butler instead of Williams
OSU vs ILL Judson instead of Benn
OSU vs TEX Jenkins covered Cosby instead of Shipley most of time.
 
steelbtexan said:
Goat those stats are skewed

Why did Jenkins always cover the weaker receiver?

I will point out the 4 games that I'm familiar with

OSU vs USC Jenkins covered Turner instead of no.1 Williams
OSU vs Penn St Butler instead of Williams
OSU vs ILL Judson instead of Benn
OSU vs TEX Jenkins covered Cosby instead of Shipley most of time.
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Ohio St seems to always put Jenkins on the better route runner, not necessarily the "better" or "weaker" WR.
 
USC they talked about how great of a route runner Williams was and how in tune he was with Sanchez

ILL Dont know about Judsons route running is vs Benn
Penn St I know that during the Senoir Bowl they talked about how quick Williams is coming out of his breaks. Dont know how good of a route runner Butler is.

Texas Cosby is a better route runner than Shipley IMO. Although Shipely is a very good route runner also.
 
Those are very impressive stats. I admit that I’ve been on the fence about Jenkins because of a concern he would struggle in man coverage. I’m guilty of overvaluing his 40 time and I’m changing my stance. What’s most important is the guy’s a player. He could really shore up our secondary as a corner. I would only put him at FS as a contingency if Wilson got hurt.
 
steelbtexan said:
USC they talked about how great of a route runner Williams was and how in tune he was with Sanchez

ILL Dont know about Judsons route running is vs Benn
Penn St I know that during the Senoir Bowl they talked about how quick Williams is coming out of his breaks. Dont know how good of a route runner Butler is.

Texas Cosby is a better route runner than Shipley IMO. Although Shipely is a very good route runner also.
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It's just conjecture based on what I've seen.

Williams had only played one game with USC before the Ohio St game. Maybe the Ohio St coaches saw Turner as a bigger threat because he was a returning starter.

The only knock out there on Benn is his route running. Everything else is top notch. Judson was a smart player who ran great routes.

Butler is renowned at State College for his route running ability.

Cosby and Shipley are pretty even in the route department but Shipley gets downfield more often, which is probably why Jenkins drew the assignment.

The most important thing about Jenkins is...he can play. Doesn't matter who he covered. he shut em' all down. Why be picky about who he shut down?
 
steelbtexan said:
Goat those stats are skewed

Why did Jenkins always cover the weaker receiver?

I will point out the 4 games that I'm familiar with

OSU vs USC Jenkins covered Turner instead of no.1 Williams
OSU vs Penn St Butler instead of Williams
OSU vs ILL Judson instead of Benn
OSU vs TEX Jenkins covered Cosby instead of Shipley most of time.
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In the games I saw they put him on one guy to lock him down, then rolled the coverage to the other side to support their weaker corner.

They probably felt like they would get the best results doubling the #1 and leaving Jenkins in iso on the #2.
 
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