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talking out of both ends... nevermind.
Precisely.
The 98'-08' stat will show a different story.
There also the fact that the Texans can only base fan loyalty on 7 home games until Vince Young retires.
It is true that the Titans attendance had stabilized after the first couple of years, we must not forget that a team with a winning record will definitely help in that regard.
On the other hand, a 2-14 season in 1994 did not help in Houston.
That followed by consecutive non-winning seasons and increasing anti-Bud feelings spelt doom for the franchise. How can you ask for more while performance on the field is weak, that was as elementary as can be.
For a Texans fan board you sure do show allot of admiration for the Titans/Oilers organization. We appreciate it. In a way, allot of you are like the lost children to the Titans.
Tis the first rock!
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
You have got to be kidding me.
ChildressTitanMan
Waterboy
You have to hand it to Bud though, he sure knows how to push Houston fans buttons.
Drafting Young after Houston chose not to was a genius move.
Drafting Young after Houston chose not to was a genius move.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Or that he was the best available.
Some of you Titan fans are funny. There is a reason why Earl Campbell wants nothing to do with that organization, yet you try to claim him as your own. Many other Oiler greats as well. Do you think anyone in Tennessee cared when Warren Moon was inducted to your little Hall of Fame. You have no memories of him.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Quite a few of us 'TENNheads'were Oilers fans. The only reason the Texans haven't left Houston yet is no city is dumb enough to take them.
I guess selling out every single game has nothing to do with, typical titans fan, ignore facts just so you can act like jerk. Typical.
ChildressTitanMan
Waterboy
Yeah right,that's why on two occasions I traveled half way round the world to watch the Oilers play.
Don't judge a book by it's cover.
spinning as well as Bush (BOTH of them) won't get you out of that one, nevertheless!Was more of a water balloon
ChildressTitanMan
Waterboy
Atypical actually.
Ignoring facts,not reading the post.
Bud:I want a new stadium.
Houston: No way,we're still paying for those luxury boxes & you took away our scoreboard.
Bud:Well then I'm leaving.
Houston:Good riddance.
Time marches on with no football.
Houston:what do we need to get a new football team?
NFL: A new stadium.
Houston: Oh snap
Now that's a sell out
Not MINE!
Maybe you want to claim the Genius Award over Bud, thinking it well deserving, well yeah I give you both that, great men think alike.. and I will also sing you a lullaby... wait, you both been singing to yourself.
pulling out one the oldest trick in the world and proclaiming it genius, WOW, I never thought that BUTTON can ever be of use since highschool. That is pure genius, what else can I say.
Atypical actually.
Ignoring facts,not reading the post.
Bud:I want a new stadium.
Houston: No way,we're still paying for those luxury boxes & you took away our scoreboard.
Bud:Well then I'm leaving.
Houston:Good riddance.
Time marches on with no football.
Houston:what do we need to get a new football team?
NFL: A new stadium.
Houston: Oh snap
Now that's a sell out
NO HOSTAGE!
ChildressTitanMan
Waterboy
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Atypical actually.
Ignoring facts,not reading the post.
Bud:I want a new stadium.
Houston: No way,we're still paying for those luxury boxes & you took away our scoreboard.
Bud:Well then I'm leaving.
Houston:Good riddance.
Time marches on with no football.
Houston:what do we need to get a new football team?
NFL: A new stadium.
Houston: Oh snap
Now that's a sell out
The people of Houston were asked to build a new stadium after a 2-14 season . That was the line drawn in the sand .... most folks said and would still say good riddance .
I think the Oilers used the #3 pick on Mcnair because Carolina and Jacksonville had 1 and 2 . Carolina traded said pick to the Bengals to draft Kijana Carter . Anyway this was the Titans good fortune because he along with Eddie George were the real deal .
Anyway in the 80's Bud had a loaded team with an accountant for a GM and a coach who left tickets for Elvis at games . If Bud had a football guy in place as the GM ... the Oilers might have won a SB .
The Titan fans will find out soon enough when Bud stars meddling again .
ChildressTitanMan
Waterboy
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
He let Herzeg talk him into firing Bum and hiring Ed Biles . The team started thr downhill spiral right there .
It's deeper than that though because I think Bum was feeling pressure from Lad and traded #1 picks for washed up vets because he had to win now . So they became a bad team that was old and no picks . I think one year there first pick of the draft was Mike Stensrud in the 3rd round .
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Holovak was great and he built that team . It's when Herzeg took over that the poop hit the fan .
ChildressTitanMan
Waterboy
Bedtime.
1am here.
1am here.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
if you are going to insult people via geography, you may want to type inbred correctly so you don't look bad (unless you meant that they lived in loaves of whole wheat bread). I lived in Nashville for two years and found the City very cosmopolitan and with lots of new money and much more progressive than I ever imagined...but I had to live there to experience this...one of my favorite cities in the USA, and I've lived all over the states.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
I have family there. It is nice, but isn't cosmopolitan. With an area population of barely over one million, it is not that big of a surprise. You go ten miles south of Downtown, and you are almost in the country.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
Ten miles south of downtown is Brentwood....a very nice, upscale subdivision.
I lived there for two years and didn't miss anything "city"...and I've lived in Houston, LA, and right outside of Boston. We have a higher "redneck factor" (nothing against rednecks....half my family are comprised of 'necks) here in Houston.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Yeah I know. That is where the mountains are. I may have exagerrated a tad. but I have family down that way, it feels rural.
Can't believe you cannot tell the difference in "city" between the cities you have lived in. LA eats Nashville for lunch. Houston? Same thing. I like the diversity and stuff in the major American cities more than the mid-sized ones (Nashville, San Antonio, etc.).
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I may not think that ridiculous traffic and oppressive smog are things that make a town cosmopolitan (I really meant that it was much more cosmopolitan than I perceived before I lived there - not that it's just like Houston or LA). I went to NFL games, saw NHL games, saw big time SEC football every weekend....saw outstanding live entertainment...Nashville radio was outstanding as the rock scene was not on the back burner like I thought it would be (due to the huge country music scene) before I lived there. I didn't miss much living in Goodlettsville (about 15 mins north of the stadium) for a couple of years....would love to move back if I had the right job.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I like Tennessee ... I think it has a certain charm to it . I don't like deep south culture in some places .
A big city like Houston , LA , Philly are going to be much more aggressive ... faster if you will . The older I get the more I don't like that .
A big city like Houston , LA , Philly are going to be much more aggressive ... faster if you will . The older I get the more I don't like that .
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
See deep in your heart you love the Titans. They are not your favorite sibling and you have fought on occasion but they are sill your big brother. 
You didn't chose the Texans the Texans chose you!
With Young now on the Titans it's time to forgive and forget. Oiler fans, you are welcome to bring your tenacity back to the true Luv Ya' Blue. We understand why you were hurt and we welcome you back no questions asked.
You didn't chose the Texans the Texans chose you!
With Young now on the Titans it's time to forgive and forget. Oiler fans, you are welcome to bring your tenacity back to the true Luv Ya' Blue. We understand why you were hurt and we welcome you back no questions asked.
Overalls
All Pro
Sorry for my misspelling Vinny. I am not as familiar with the mating habits of the Appalachian folk as some seem to be here. I would read up on it but I really don't care to be more knowledgable on the subject. Feel free to carry on though.
Overalls
All Pro
See deep in your heart you love the Titans. They are not your favorite sibling and you have fought on occasion but they are sill your big brother.
You didn't chose the Texans the Texans chose you!
With Young now on the Titans it's time to forgive and forget. Oiler fans, you are welcome to bring your tenacity back to the true Luv Ya' Blue. We understand why you were hurt and we welcome you back no questions asked.
If you understood you would not even type the statement. No self respecting Texan could ever root for that turncoat team.
I never made it to high school.
no comment!
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
Scooter
Funky
thanks for the pics guerillablack.
maybe i'm just young enough not to care, but for me it's good riddance. we survived a few years without football to be in a better situation. bud didnt take our memories, he didnt take our legends, he didnt take anything but a shade of blue and an oil derrick helmet. we still have the dome. we still have earl campbell. and because of lanier taking a stand, we now have the texans. we have reliant stadium. we have demeco ryans and andre johnson (they have pacman). the only thing we dont have yet is in the win column but i'm not naive enough to think that there wont be rough patches ... we're just getting them out of the way at the beginning. i love the old oilers and always will, but that team retired, they didnt move. the only thing that moved is bud adams, and that's Christmas in houston. the titans are a new team that are trying to impose a history that they dont know. any oilers fan old enough to walk should know who elvin bethea is, however he's a questionmark in tennessee.
actually we did choose the texans and chose against bud. of course we like to reminisce about our old team, but we got what we wanted in bob mcnair and the houston texans.
maybe i'm just young enough not to care, but for me it's good riddance. we survived a few years without football to be in a better situation. bud didnt take our memories, he didnt take our legends, he didnt take anything but a shade of blue and an oil derrick helmet. we still have the dome. we still have earl campbell. and because of lanier taking a stand, we now have the texans. we have reliant stadium. we have demeco ryans and andre johnson (they have pacman). the only thing we dont have yet is in the win column but i'm not naive enough to think that there wont be rough patches ... we're just getting them out of the way at the beginning. i love the old oilers and always will, but that team retired, they didnt move. the only thing that moved is bud adams, and that's Christmas in houston. the titans are a new team that are trying to impose a history that they dont know. any oilers fan old enough to walk should know who elvin bethea is, however he's a questionmark in tennessee.
actually we did choose the texans and chose against bud. of course we like to reminisce about our old team, but we got what we wanted in bob mcnair and the houston texans.
HARRYJ
A Great Pretender
See deep in your heart you love the Titans. They are not your favorite sibling and you have fought on occasion but they are sill your big brother.
You didn't chose the Texans the Texans chose you!
With Young now on the Titans it's time to forgive and forget. Oiler fans, you are welcome to bring your tenacity back to the true Luv Ya' Blue. We understand why you were hurt and we welcome you back no questions asked.
I don't think I like the tone you have adopted here.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Of course that isn't what makes a city. The people, international culture, among other things make a city. Nashville is a nice American city, though.
Overalls
All Pro
Don't ask don't tell ... we don't judge fans by state.
RIGHT. Like I don't remember the anti-Texas statements you've made.
Brando
Hall of Fame
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
You know I am better then that. If state hate gets sent at me I can show I can stoop to that level but I am never the first person to start it. I come on these board to talk football not BS stereotyping about the general location someone comes from.
Wolf
100% Texan
I don't know how accurate or up to date this is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans
But like Earl said, Bud lost leverage to ask for a new stadium after a 2-14 season(esp after the city renovated), you just don't see it happening on any sports level, unless it is an expansion team.
that is kinda what I remember but the bold part is troubling to me (if it is true)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans
But like Earl said, Bud lost leverage to ask for a new stadium after a 2-14 season(esp after the city renovated), you just don't see it happening on any sports level, unless it is an expansion team.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
The 30 year bond associated witht he renovations is still on the books. Until 2017 I might add.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Atypical actually.
Ignoring facts,not reading the post.
Bud:I want a new stadium.
Houston: No way,we're still paying for those luxury boxes & you took away our scoreboard.
Bud:Well then I'm leaving.
Houston:Good riddance.
Time marches on with no football.
Houston:what do we need to get a new football team?
NFL: A new stadium.
Houston: Oh snap
Now that's a sell out
Uhhhhhhh, thats revisionist history.............
(Circa 1988)
Hair Piece: I want to rip out the vaunted pinball machine and add 10,000 seats... or I am moving to Jacksonville..... Oh, and by the way, tax payers of Harris County are going to pay for it....
Mayor: Sure... Lets keep the Oilers here, rather than losing them to Jacksonville....
(Circa 1993/94)
Hair Piece: I want a new stadium and don't care that the renovations to the dome are not paid off yet..... Oh, and by the way, tax payers of Harris County are going to still pay for the renovation AND the new stadium....
Mayor Bob:
I don't think so....
Hair Piece:
Maybe I can use Drayton McClane or the Rockets Owner to partner up with me since I am already despised in this town...
Rockets and Astros Owners: Uh, no... You are flying solo... we're NOT going lie with a dog that has fleas...
Mayor Bob: Well I guess you better figure out a way to finance this deal without the taxpayers flipping the bill one more time...
Hair Piece: Well, no one in this town likes or respects me, so I guess I will have to take the team somewhere, where they want to hand-out corporate welfare...
Mayor McTooth of Nashville: Our citizens have no idea what they are being taxed on anyways... so c'mon bud. We will flip the entire bill for the stadium, you can have ALL of the revenue AND the city will gaurantee sell outs for the first 10 years...
Houston: Good Riddance!! (Nice to see you got that part correct)
Astros: We got our stadium deal done...
Rockets: We got our arena deal done....
Bob McNair: Well, I have $750,000,000.00 to buy a team if we can get a stadium deal done....(stadium deal in place using tax money from rental cars and hotels AND the HLSR kicking in)
NFL: Good job Bob, you now own the 32nd franchise in the NFL
Houston: *rejoices* Well, its been a few years without football, but the reward far outweighs sacrifice - especially knowing that Hair Piece has nothing to do with it....
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
You know Bud's not getting any younger ... so who's taking over the team when he's gone ?
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
I don't know, but hopefully the new owner is nicer and gives us our records.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
Currently the Texans hold the record for most sacks allowed in a season and the longest term of an expansion team not to at least make the playoffs.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Also, considering the first expansion teams had more benefits than the Texans.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
actually you are mistaken. The Eagles hold the record for sacks given up for a team in one year (Cunningham and Jawarski). Carr holds the individual record...but he plays in Carolina now....lord help their poor linemen.
Overalls
All Pro
We, as Oiler fans, already have the Oiler records. The team died and nolonger exist. The Tennessee Turncoats are a different team living on another teams past. Thus they will never win a Super Bowl till they realize the wrongs we were done. Even when Duds contract with Satan is up and he passes away, that team is doomed.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
If you are going to try to use stats, you may want to do research. The Eagles hold the record for allowing the most sacks in a single season AND the Cardinals are second...
*EDIT* I see where Vinny corrected you about the Eagles, but he didnt even make mention that the Cardinals were second on that list.