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Looking ahead to Minnesota

Personally, I think Patterson gets better with that first game under his belt. Guy hadn’t played in a regular season game since GM9 last season. His first 9 games…..he was a bright spot on the OL. So, I’m least worried about his play. As for Howard, I would never be as forgiving b/c the team has too much invested in him financially to be such rickety arse turnstile on passing downs. He’s such a liability to CJ’s health that at some point the team will have to recognize it’s a mistake to keep starting him. Also, I think the pairing of Green at LG and Patterson at C will get better at picking up the stunts especially when defenses know this confused them last week. They’ll see more of it and they’re both talented enough to know, practice makes perfect.

On another offensive note, time for Slowick to get Dell involved by calling some quick hitting slant plays versus the constant end around. If no one else on offense takes the end around….defenses catch on to this habit.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Personally, I think Patterson gets better with that first game under his belt. Guy hadn’t played in a regular season game since GM9 last season. His first 9 games…..he was a bright spot on the OL. So, I’m least worried about his play. As for Howard, I would never be as forgiving b/c the team has too much invested in him financially to be such rickety arse turnstile on passing downs. He’s such a liability to CJ’s health that at some point the team will have to recognize it’s a mistake to keep starting him. Also, I think the pairing of Green at LG and Patterson at C will get better at picking up the stunts especially when defenses know this confused them last week. They’ll see more of it and they’re both talented enough to know, practice makes perfect.

On another offensive note, time for Slowick to get Dell involved by calling some quick hitting slant plays versus the constant end around. If no one else on offense takes the end around….defenses catch on to this habit.
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I don’t know if he’ll show some improvements in this game because the Vikings have some dogs on that DLine. They get after the quarterback just like we do.
 
based on what Kittle did, i think we see a big game from our collective group of TE's. Schultz is the starter, but I think this is a particularly big game for Jordan to make an impact. He has shown he can make big plays in limited snaps & aslo presents more of a mismatch out in space than Schultz/Stover against the LB's. Also, based on what Nico has been doing in the 1st 2 games................... & the fact that they have Shaq Griffin as a starting cb & old ass Gilmore as the other starting cb, I expect them to start shading over the top of Nico with 1 of the safeties while they see if Gilmore's veteran saviness can hold his own against 1 of Dell/Diggs with Smith roaming over the top of those matchups Whomever draws Gilmore..which will probably be Steph, you can expect the other to have the big game amongst the WR's. Gonna start out with a bunch of dink & dunks underneath but as the game wears on, I think we start seeing the Vikes start to take more chances defensively and the big chunk plays will start coming. They saw how the Colts and Bears were able to get after CJ & will likely be employing the same game plan of creating pressure up the middle to flush CJ & push him right into Cashman and Greenard.

Defensively, I expect Will & Denielle to eat. The 9ers defense isn't as stout as it has been in prior years..I think they really miss Greenlaw in the run defense game.... & Floyd just ain't getting it done opposite Bosa...yet Bosa was still able to get 2 sacks on Darnold. & with the extra juice Hunter should have coming back to his old stomping grounds, I predict he's gonna get at least get 1 strip sack. I expect alot of delay and screen type of plays from the Vikes early in attempts to slow our rush down. With that in my mind this is a big game for Too Too IMO. I think he'll be targeted heavily in the screen/pass game. I think its gonna be a big game for Lassiter as well as he's already been targeted quite a bit b/c he's a rookie & i don't see that changing this week. But also b/c this will be the most capable and proven WR core we've gone against thus far With Jefferson/Addison and Nailor. So even if Addison doesn't play, He'll still see Nailor who has a TD in each of the Vikes 1st 2 games & is very capable.

Whose gonna be able to establish the run. That will be the key to this game.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Purdy stat line: 28-36 319 yards 1 TD and 1 Interception. He was sacked 6 times.

Mason rushed for 100 yards, 5 yards a pop, a TD and he fumbled once.


Those two mistakes cost them the game. The Niners had 421 total yards from scrimmage.


You can’t beat yourself like the 49ers did against them with those turnovers.
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Plus I sure hope the defense doesn't give up a 97 yd TD.
 
steelbtexan said:
Me too, and I think Howard will start as long as he's healthy. Next off-season I could see him getting cut.
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If things go as they have he's almost guaranteed to be a Post June 1st designation cut.

At this point not only does Tytus need to play better he needs to actually stay healthy too. We're at the point that we're paying this guy way too much $ to maybe be good when healthy and that in itself is a rarity.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
After the Texans had 12 penalties for 115 yards and let the Bears have a chance to win the game with under 2:00 I did some research looking at other teams and their penalties in week 2. Bears had 9 penalties for 60 yards. Nearly half the penalty yards definitely helped them remain competitive in a game that should’ve been a blowout victory for Houston:

1) Ravens dropped a close game and had 11 penalties for 109 yards. Their opponent, the Raiders had 3 penalties for 15 yards. 3 point loss, safe to say a cleaner game would make the Ravens winners here.

2) Browns beat Jags 18-13. They have 13 penalties for 100 yards. Similar to Texans, their sloppy play kept this game close. Browns completely shut down Lawrence similar to Texans defense with Williams.

3). Broncos lose 13-6. They had 9 penalties for 124 yards. Steelers, similar to Bears gave up their share as well with 10 for 78. Sounds like a sloppy game!

4) Bengals lose a heartbreaker to the Chiefs 26-25. They had 8 penalties for 79 yards, none bigger than the 4th and 16 PI to end the game. This was a fair call, just sloppy play by the rookie safety… similar to the Texans PI on Bullock that led to Chicago’s only td.
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And what were the spreads in those games? And the final scores. How did those teams getting multiple penalties fare?

Just curious because I couldn’t help but think the refs and the nfl were trying to keep its shiny new toy (Caleb) in the game on prime time and wanted him to win. But I’m an admitted conspiracy theorist about these things.
 
After watching last weeks game against the Niners, I would double Jefferson (gotta see how he does with the quad injury) with Lassister and a S and put Sting on Nailor. The front 7 have got to contain the run.
Darnold looks like a completely different QB, showing why he was a 1st round pick.
Sweech said:
Nah they can cut Tytus as a post June 1st designation cut next season and swallow the 2 year dead cap hit. It's fairly manageable with around 9 mil in 2025 and 12 mil in 2026.
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You seriously think the Texans are just going to eat $19M? I don't.
 
DocBar said:
After watching last weeks game against the Niners, I would double Jefferson (gotta see how he does with the quad injury) with Lassister and a S and put Sting on Nailor. The front 7 have got to contain the run.
Darnold looks like a completely different QB, showing why he was a 1st round pick.

You seriously think the Texans are just going to eat $19M? I don't.
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Yes I do think that because they've been willing to eat big dead cap hits before. Heck if they weren't they would never have traded Maliek Collins this offseason.

Not to mention the alternative is having a 29 mil cap hit in 2025 by keeping him on the team. That's a hefty pricetag for dead weight. 9 mil cap hit (+12 mil 2026 cap hit) is a heck of a lot more palatable than 29 million cap hit (plus whatever deadcap comes from cutting him later).

If Tytus doesn't shape up the pros definitely outway the cons of trading him or cutting him post June-1st.
 
steelbtexan said:
I thought I read the 2025 cap hit wouldn't be that bad if Howard was cut next off-season? I know he was uncuttable for the 2024 season.
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Yes it's not that bad. Next season he can be cut with a post-June 1st designation for a ~9 mil deadcap in 2025 and a ~12mil deadcap in 2026. Those aren't too bad. It's certainly not the albatross of a contract it's made out to be.

That spotrac site shows that.

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steelbtexan said:
I dont think they cut both OT's after 2025 and I'll bet you Tunsil stays and Howard gets hurt again and goes, because Fisher will play well at RT.
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This is the way I'm seeing it.

In all likelihood Howard likely gets hurt and Fisher comes in and even if Fisher is slightly worse or around equal they'll probably realize that the difference between Fisher and Howard isn't more than $20 million.

I'm still willing to give Tytus some time to get back up to speed but currently he's not better than George Fant.
 
With Brevin Jordan gone, i’m interested in seeing what the team does with Stover. Do they play him more at TE and get Brooks FB snaps? Or do they use more multiple WR groupings and spread things out more?

I would lean towards spreading out the defense more until Mixon is healthy. Or at least for this week. Flores will bring the pressure but when you send more than four that leaves an opening in the defense. I’m confident Stroud can find the open man.
 
Sweech said:
They just signed Quessenberry to the practice squad and neither Scrugg's or Pattersson's injuries seem long term and there's also still Kendrick Green to play C.
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Kendrick hasn't played C for the Texans, only 3 games at LG. He was benched in Pittsburgh as a rookie C near the end of the season and never got on the field for the Steelers again. I don't remember Green getting snaps at C in the oreseason, and Green is not listed as a backup C on the depth chart. I'm not sure Kendrick is a viable option at C.
 
Texans currently are a -2 favorite at Vikings, with the total points now at 46. Both numbers have dropped, likely due to the concern that Mixon's absence makes the Texans offense one dimensional. I would much rather run right at Vikings new MLB Cashman than trying to throw around him in zone coverage. Got to get that run game going again.
 
Lucky said:
Kendrick hasn't played C for the Texans, only 3 games at LG. He was benched in Pittsburgh as a rookie C near the end of the season and never got on the field for the Steelers again. I don't remember Green getting snaps at C in the oreseason, and Green is not listed as a backup C on the depth chart. I'm not sure Kendrick is a viable option at C.
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The fact he has experience playing C is enough for me. He hasn't taken snaps there because there's since been a glut at the position and his experience at Pittsburgh while poor seems to be a distinctly Pittsburgh thing as they've massively struggled at C since Green.

Scruggs and Pattersson are back at practice but I wouldn't be surprised if Green had already been taking snaps at C yesterday with them out.
 
Sweech said:
I'd like to hold off on throwing Fisher into the fire earlier than needed. He still needs development and refinement.

I'm hoping Tytus and the o-line as a whole can get their **** figured out.
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Six round pick Patterson began his starts early also and did very well. I would be okay to starting Fisher Sunday. at right tackle.
 
badboy said:
Six round pick Patterson began his starts early also and did very well. I would be okay to starting Fisher Sunday. at right tackle.
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It's really easy to hide a C in a blocking scheme and really difficult to hide a tackle.

I liked what I saw from Fisher in preseason but there was some very clear rawness there too and he got pretty consistently whooped by Will and Danielle throughout training camp too.
 
Sweech said:
It's really easy to hide a C in a blocking scheme and really difficult to hide a tackle.

I liked what I saw from Fisher in preseason but there was some very clear rawness there too and he got pretty consistently whooped by Will and Danielle throughout training camp too.
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I understand your points however, our Center was not hidden very well and Fisher is a better player than Patterson. I think we will be okay.
 
badboy said:
I understand your points however, our Center was not hidden very well and Fisher is a better player than Patterson. I think we will be okay.
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I actually think Pattersson is pretty underrated and was a little disappointed that the starting C job wasn't really a competition this training camp.

Overall my take on Fisher is he's a developmental prospect and I'd like him to still develop a little further outside of the limelight. I'm not convinced he's actually better than Tytus and other than Tytus going down with injury don't see the value of thrusting him in just yet.
 
I feel like there's a lot of similarities between this game and the Browns game last season. Both Flacco and Darnold have a devil may care attitude with the ball and that can both help and hinder them. They have the bravery to make big plays downfield but it can also lead to turnovers. Our defenders will have chances on the ball this game that's for certain but whether they can make the plays will be a massive determining factor of if we win.

Overall this game has me feeling more pessimistic than normal because I'm yet to be convinced that we can play a non-sloppy game in a loud away building.

I'd be willing to bet we commit 3 false starts MINIMUM. Let alone whatever other procedural blunders. Also wouldn't be surprised if we get Ravens game flashbacks of having to burn timeouts because we can't get situated properly and snap the ball in time.
 
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Houston Texans at Minnesota Vikings: Predictions, picks and odds for NFL Week 3 game

Jon Hoefling
USA TODAY

After dismantling the New York Giants in Week 1, the Minnesota Vikings were put to the test in Week 2 and came out victorious against the San Francisco 49ers. However, that wasn't enough for the football gods to be pleased it seems. With Week 3 comes another daunting test in the shape of C.J. Stroud and the Houston Texans.

Both teams are 2-0 heading into this weekend's matchup, and although the Texans look like the clearly superior roster, the Vikings have some tricks up their sleeves. Under head coach Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings are 19-0 when they don't lose the turnover battle. When they come away with as many or more turnovers as their opponents, they've yet to lose in the Kevin O'Connell era.

Of course, winning the turnover battle is easier said than done. Stroud has yet to throw an interception this season, and the Texans have only lost one fumble through two games. It will certainly be a tough matchup, but the Vikings have proven capable of handling even the best teams the NFL has to offer.

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Houston Texans at Minnesota Vikings: Predictions, picks and odds for NFL Week 3 game

Predictions and picks for the 2024 NFL Week 3 matchup between the Minnesota Vikings and Houston Texans.
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TheRealJoker V2 said:
With Brevin Jordan gone, i’m interested in seeing what the team does with Stover. Do they play him more at TE and get Brooks FB snaps? Or do they use more multiple WR groupings and spread things out more?

I would lean towards spreading out the defense more until Mixon is healthy. Or at least for this week. Flores will bring the pressure but when you send more than four that leaves an opening in the defense. I’m confident Stroud can find the open man.
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Texansballer74 said:
Of course, winning the turnover battle is easier said than done. Stroud has yet to throw an interception this season, and the Texans have only lost one fumble through two games.
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How many interceptions have the Vikings thrown & how many fumbles have they lost?
 
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