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LB problem

keyfro said:
while i agree that ahmad brooks would be a quality player to put in at the MLB position keep one simple thing in mind...bob mcnair and casserly and kubiak want character guys only on this team...their drafting habits and their FA habits are consitant with that...i do no see them even putting up next years 7th rounder for him due to his drug problems
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He made a mistake. He does not have a history of it, and he has more talent than any LB in this current draft or last years draft or even a few years back. We would be giving up a third round pick next year for our starting MLB for the next 10.

Does anyone know if he worked out at Virginia's pro day? I would like to see his numbers coming back off his minor injuries.
 
infantrycak said:
Orr is 6' and 241 lbs. How is that undersized in comparison to:

Derrick Brooks 6' 235 lbs
Lance Briggs 6' 1" 240 lbs
Will Witherspoon 6' 1" 231 lbs
Akin Ayodele 6' 2" 246 lbs
Robert Thomas 6' 233 lbs

Those are the starting LOLB's for the top 5 4-3 D's last year.
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Note: Speaking of size, and I realize these are outside backers and not middle, but Al Wilson from the Broncos is 6' 240 lbs with TP coming in at 6' 1" 251, which would make him the heaviest linebacker (albeit 1 pound) on the Texans roster.

He must have some talent or he would not have been selected in the second round of the draft. Denver obviously selected not to tie up dollars for backing up a pro-bowler and will select another early rounder in the draft.
 
just curious what did Lavar Arrington play in washington? was he strickly a LB or didn't they move him all over the field at DE and LB to create mismatches?


I imagine he would be wanting too much money for the Texans to consider him.
 
Wolf said:
just curious what did Lavar Arrington play in washington? was he strickly a LB or didn't they move him all over the field at DE and LB to create mismatches?


I imagine he would be wanting too much money for the Texans to consider him.
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Didnt he already sign with NYG

**EDIT**
Not signed yet, still a FA.
 
Mightymike said:
he's better than anything we have, so why not go for him. He's not guna be a star, but he's a legit starter at least
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I would rather give Terry a chance, and draft Ahmad Brooks in the Supp. draft or even McIntosh in the 3rd round of the draft.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
I would rather give Terry a chance, and draft Ahmad Brooks in the Supp. draft or even McIntosh in the 3rd round of the draft.
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you would rather have an unproven LB in Terry, a LB that got kicked out of college, and a rookie rather than an 8yr. All-Pro MLB, this guy isn't even that old
 
Just throwin it out there...

Aaron Harris in the 6th round. I know they say he doesnt have NFL size, but he always seemed to make the plays and cover the field for Texas. At the worst, he could hold MLB until Wong fully recovers, and then provide depth as a backup.
 
Mightymike said:
you would rather have an unproven LB in Terry, a LB that got kicked out of college, and a rookie rather than an 8yr. All-Pro MLB, this guy isn't even that old
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Yes. Terry is only here to tutor Brooks for me. Brooks is a Ray Lewis clone LB with the athletic ability similar to Arrington. McIntosh is a very good LB out of a VERY good school. Its the U.
 
I've been hearing that Pierce might be a fix to our MLB situation, however, i really don't know if he's any good since i never heard of him in college. But someone i did hear a lot about while he was in college was ILB Rocky Calmus. This guy was really good at getting to the ball carrier. So why hasn't anyone talked about him since he is a FA this year. I think he played for Tenn and was having a really great rookie year until he was hurt. I think he has been plagued by a hamsting problem which isn't anything to serious. I believe that he would be the kind of guy that you could pick up that would make an immediate impact to the defense. If I'm correct he was a 1st rounder.
 
WILLIEG said:
I've been hearing that Pierce might be a fix to our MLB situation, however, i really don't know if he's any good since i never heard of him in college. But someone i did hear a lot about while he was in college was ILB Rocky Calmus. This guy was really good at getting to the ball carrier. So why hasn't anyone talked about him since he is a FA this year. I think he played for Tenn and was having a really great rookie year until he was hurt. I think he has been plagued by a hamsting problem which isn't anything to serious. I believe that he would be the kind of guy that you could pick up that would make an immediate impact to the defense. If I'm correct he was a 1st rounder.
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The bold areas pretty much sum it up.

He was a 3rd rd'r. 12th pick.

Read this: http://www.tennessean.com/sports/titans/archives/03/08/38448692.shtml?Element_ID=38448692
That pretty much sums up his injury.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
I would rather give Terry a chance, and draft Ahmad Brooks in the Supp. draft or even McIntosh in the 3rd round of the draft.
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gerris wilkinson and abdul hodge are too other good mid-round guys in the draft that probably could start on day 1 for us
 
We need to draft an MLB...if one of the studs (D'qwell Jackson or Abdul Hodge) falls to 33 Id strongly consider....or if one of the 2nd tier guys falls to 65 or 66 then you gotta take one there...A stud LB in a necessity in a good D
 
Texans | Team makes an offer to Cowart
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:48:13 -0800

Don Seeholzer, of the Pioneer Press, reports free agent LB Sam Cowart (Vikings) has a contract offer from the Houston Texans, but agent Paul Healy said Cowart is in no rush to make a decision. Healy said Cowart has had conversations with the Washington Redskins and has some possible visits coming up but would prefer to remain with the Minnesota Vikings.
 
Dunta_23 said:
We need to draft an MLB...if one of the studs (D'qwell Jackson or Abdul Hodge) falls to 33 Id strongly consider....or if one of the 2nd tier guys falls to 65 or 66 then you gotta take one there...A stud LB in a necessity in a good D
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neither will go in 1st round
 
TEXANS84 said:
Texans | Team makes an offer to Cowart
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:48:13 -0800

Don Seeholzer, of the Pioneer Press, reports free agent LB Sam Cowart (Vikings) has a contract offer from the Houston Texans, but agent Paul Healy said Cowart is in no rush to make a decision. Healy said Cowart has had conversations with the Washington Redskins and has some possible visits coming up but would prefer to remain with the Minnesota Vikings.
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Well at least he is in a hurry to sign with us. :slap:
 
wags said:
Well at least he is in a hurry to sign with us. :slap:
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You mean, not in a hurry to sign with us. Also, another question for everyone.....What round pick you give for Amhad Brooks in the supplement draft if he goes in that draft?
 
O.G. said:
You mean, not in a hurry to sign with us. Also, another question for everyone.....What round pick you give for Amhad Brooks in the supplement draft if he goes in that draft?
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a 3rd. has serious character question marks :confused:

I would be more in favor of trading down & selecting A.J. Hawk issue resolved. for all of you who think Reggie Bush or Mario Williams even D'Brickashaw Ferguson would have a bigger impact on the team all Hawk would do is solidify the middle of the field & improve the Texans bottom rated rush defense by leading the team in tackles & have a legitimate shot at to lead the team in sacks. talk about value, did anyone catch the numbers the Seahawks threw @ Julian Peterson? Hawk will be a much more punishing MLB in the mold of a Brian Urlacher.
 
actually aj hawk is in the zach thomas mold...even he admitts it...hawk has the ability to play any of the linebacker positions and probably would have the most success in the middle IMO...as far as sam cowart is concerned he would be decent for a year maybe two...we also have jamie winborn in for a visit today...he was good when he was in san fransico but went to jacksonville last year and was a back-up...born in 1979 i believe still has some years in the nfl not sure if he's starting material

in regards to hodge and wilkerson i believe only one of them will make it to the third round and after wilkerson's performance at the GT's pro day i believe hodge could be there for us at the 65th pick in the draft...that would be a steal IMO
 
keyfro said:
actually aj hawk is in the zach thomas mold...even he admitts it...hawk has the ability to play any of the linebacker positions and probably would have the most success in the middle IMO...
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I could live with a Zach Thomas Mold MLB :) just a bigger, quicker nastier version IMO...
 
well abdul hodge improved his draft status at his pro day here's his numbers:

Abdul Hodge LB Hodge (6-0 3/8, 233) ran his 40s in 4.69 and 4.66 seconds. He also had 25 bench presses. In the other tests, he stood on his Combine performances.

from nfl.com
 
just scanning the nfl.com page over the pro days and came over this

Brian Iwuh LB Iwuh (6-0,227 pounds) had a problem with a hamstring and didn't run, but he did do position drills. He will run March 27 in Houston.

you can read into it i think...he would be a linebacker in the denver broncos mold where you go after guys who can run better and faster...might be someone they see pushing morlon greenwood for time in a year or two :stirpot:
 
I think that the issue with everyone wanting to improve the d-line over the LBs is because I don't think the organization knows what they have in their current LB corp. The d-line did nothing last year to clog up the o-line, therefore the o-line was getting up to the next tier, the LBs. So maybe the new regime likes what they see in the current LB corp. I think Wong will flourish in the 4-3...so...JM:twocents:
 
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