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Landry ran a 4.35

threetoedpete said:
Well I banged on him pretty hard all off season. I hope you guys are correct that we're getting Sean Taylor and not Erick Turner. 4.35, the vertical leap, ...brings me back to the origanal question I've had on Leron Landry all off season...where are the big plays ? How can someone posting such extrodinary numbers look so ordinary in the games ? I dunno. Just hope you're correct. Awefull high pick for an ordinary saftey which we could cover later in day one. I don't trust guys playing not to get hurt.
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The way this guy throws his body around, i don't know if you really meant that.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Merriweather isn't in the class of Landry, and Griffin is more of a SS.
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you have this backward, Merriweather excels in cover and he is FS compare to Griffin who is more suited to run support and excels in that department, and he is more SS then Meriweather.

Had it not been for his character concerns, Merriweather would have been drafted in the first round and still has a chance to be drafted in first round by some one. More then likely he will fall in the top shelf of second round and some one will draft him solely based on his talent alone.

I would love to draft Merriweather in second round but I don't know if the Texans will due to off field problems.

Here is good article on Chronicle by John McClain on Monday:

When owner Bob McNair interviewed Smith about replacing Charley Casserly, he emphasized the importance of character. Smith and coach Gary Kubiak came from the Denver Broncos, an organization that accepts players with issues.

Because of McNair's philosophy, the Texans have bypassed some talented players in the draft and free agency.

"I'm not going to change my philosophy," McNair said. "We put a priority on character. It's important for us to win with high-character people, not just on our roster but throughout our organization.

"Not only do we represent the Texans, but we represent the city of Houston. We want our fans to be proud of the type of players we have."
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4584518.html
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
So let me get this straight....

You want to reach in the first, and then say a prayer that Merriweather falls to us in the second....

gotcha'.....:ok:
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No what he's tring to post is that with the tallent on the board, if the guy is there that fills a major need...can I call offensive tackle a major need with two down with inuries and the grey beard, Erick Winston, street free agents and whoever we draft currently sitting atop our depth chart ? When there is in fact, very tallenteed explosive palyers who will slide into rounds two and three who can more than cover the postion, more than upgrade the position...without over paying for the position, later in the draft ? And picking a guy in the eigth slot who is projected as a twelveth pick, is technically a reach. But not as much of a reach as gambling on what will be left on the boards at the 39, 71 picks or beyound at the offensive tackles. Or on the under producing saftey or the oft injured RB. Gotta better than fair shot hitting two holes going with Levi first then the DB as passing on the OLT once again, then getting your DB help. I'd say you were the one with the five year old prayer there XT. How's that been working out for us there big fella ?
 
dbspi said:
you have this backward, Merriweather excels in cover and he is FS compare to Griffin who is more suited to run support and excels in that department, and he is more SS then Meriweather.
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What the He!! are you saying ?

You don't make any sense....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
So let me get this straight....

You want to reach in the first, and then say a prayer that Merriweather falls to us in the second....

gotcha'.....:ok:
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reach in the 1st? who said i was even picking anyone? i just said the only LB i would be willing to take in the 1st would be willis, and that wouldnt be at the 8th pick. and with alot of guys rising like kalil, houston, and a bunch of WR's, i think meriweather will be there in the 2nd.
 
threetoedpete said:
No what he's tring to post is that with the tallent on the board, if the guy is there that fills a major need...can I call offensive tackle a major need with two down with inuries and the grey beard, street free agents and whoever we draft currently sitting atop our depth chart ? when there is in fact, very tallenteed explosive palyers who will slide into round two who can more than cover the postion...without over paying for the position, later in the draft ? And picking a guy in the eigth slot who is projected as a twelveth pick, is technically a reach. But not as much of a reach as gambling on what will be left on the boards at the 39, 71 picks or beyound at the offensive tackles. Gotta better than fair shot hitting two hole going with Levi first then the DB as passing on the OLT once again, then getting your DB help. I'd say you were the one with the seven year old prayer there XT. How's that working out for you there big fella ?
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I am having a hard time following you.....

But i'll clue you in and start from the beggining.

We were never talking about Levi...

His original post stated that he'd rather grab a corner in the first (which at our position would be a reach), and wait for Merriweather orGriffin in the second....

So that means we would be passing up one of the best players at a position of need, to reach on a Corner....

Then all we would have is hope, and good faith waiting on Merriweather...

And Griffin is more of a SS...Not great in coverage, but decent....Good hitter, likes to play close to the line of scrimmage....Think of him as a Bob Sanders type player...

Edit: My bad, I just went back and saw that you mentioned Brown...All I saw was Houston...

But that aside it still wouldn't make sense if you had Landry rated as a better prospect than those two...
 
htownfoozball said:
reach in the 1st? who said i was even picking anyone? i just said the only LB i would be willing to take in the 1st would be willis, and that wouldnt be at the 8th pick. and with alot of guys rising like kalil, houston, and a bunch of WR's, i think meriweather will be there in the 2nd.
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You did.

htownfoozball said:
why not take meriweather or griffin in round 2 and pick up houston or brown in the 1st? is landry going to be THAT much better than those two?
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If the Texans think Landry is a better prospect than Brown and Houston( I do), then it doesn't make sense to pass him up for another position just because you can get another decent FS in the second. That strategy would make sense if this was our last draft ever but that is just plain crazy IMO.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I am having a hard time following you.....

But i'll clue you in and start from the beggining.

We were never talking about Levi...

His original post stated that he'd rather grab a corner in the first (which at our position would be a reach), and wait for Merriweather orGriffin in the second....

So that means we would be passing up one of the best players at a position of need, to reach on a Corner....

Then all we would have is hope, and good faith waiting on Merriweather...

And Griffin is more of a SS...Not great in coverage, but decent....Good hitter, likes to play close to the line of scrimmage....Think of him as a Bob Sanders type player...
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Which is nothing new.

We should be talking about Levi Brown...above all others.

They take the corner in the first as with Leron I'll live with that. Griffin inspite of the mockers will fall intot he second. He is nothing like Bob Sanders...in anyway. In fact just the oposite is true...Sander's stock was falling this time last year because of the hieght issues. Sanders is a savage hitter, Griffin does not bring that with him.

Merrywheather and Landry are not the only Safties on this board that can improve this team at that position. I agree with him a top end corner would do that. But we don't need that above filling the hole at the o-line. Inspite of what the news guy has out front, OT should be the pick and has been that way in four out of six years.
 
threetoedpete said:
Which is nothing new.

We should be talking about Levi Brown...above all others.

They take the corner in the first as with Leron I'll live with that. Griffin inspite of the mockers will fall intot he second. He is nothing like Bob Sanders...in anyway. In fact just the oposite is true...Sander's stock was falling this time last year because of the hieght issues. Sanders is a savage hitter, Griffin does not bring that with him.

Merrywheather and Landry are not the only Safties on this board that can improve this team at that position. I agree with him a top end corner would do that. But we don't need that above filling the hole at the o-line. Inspite of what the news guy has out front, OT should be the pick and has been that way in four out of six years.
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I honestly believe you are just clueless....

The end.
 
The single biggest reason that Sanders dropped was due to an injury issue. I heard Polian interviewed and he just loved the young kid but said that he felt that he would fall because most teams were afraid of his injury file. If I have this right, the Colts traded back the year Sanders was taken and still picked him up. I believe he said that his doctor told him Sanders would likely miss the first 8 games his rookie season, but the condition wasn't likely to be ongoing.
 
El Tejano said:
I also think that alot of the games we lost in the 4th quarter were due to no fear in the WR to go across our middle. I would like to get a player that ends that once and for all.

I would like Landry at #8. Seems like reality is settling back in on who we are going to get.
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I agree. We seriously need to draft this guy. In the 2nd round we should try to get Chris Houston, only thing is his stock is going up. Put Landry at 8 would be sweet.
 
Landry is the most complete Safety in this class. Why are you so concerned about the 'big' plays...the highlight reel? While those are fun to watch and all...when it comes to d-backs there is often one of those gambles they take and miss on that leads to a TD as there is when its a big play.

Landry is just a solid player that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Nobody really noticed Demeco last year. He's just a solid player that gets the job done and is smart, he makes the rest of the team better to make those plays. Much like Patrick Willis, he was pretty quiet in the national media untill the end of his senior year, he's just a dominant Lb that makes plays sideline to sideline and a true leader, he doesn't necessarily make the 'highlight' reel type of plays. now those are LB's not FS's.

Landry imo is a lot like Demeco. He's solid in his fundamentals. He is a much better tackler than just about every single safety in this class. he doesn't hit the defender with his shoulder every play, he tackles them. He's a proven leader in the secondary for the tigers and have played all four years. I think he's the type of safety you take in the first...even if it is top ten because you won't get the same qualities with any other person.

The only question I had about landry was his speed. I wasn't sure he would fast enough for FS in the nfl for a top ten pick. I have been flirting with taking him there depending on whos on the board. I thought he'd run a 4.45 or a 4.5, but when he came out with a 4.35 ....i was like damn! that answers the only question i had about him and threw it in my face.

Same 40 time as Calvin Johnson.

here's some highlights:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04
 
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Landry is the most complete Safety in this class. Why are you so concerned about the 'big' plays...the highlight reel? While those are fun to watch and all...when it comes to d-backs there is often one of those gambles they take and miss on that leads to a TD as there is when its a big play.

Landry is just a solid player that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Nobody really noticed Demeco last year. He's just a solid player that gets the job done and is smart, he makes the rest of the team better to make those plays. Much like Patrick Willis, he was pretty quiet in the national media untill the end of his senior year, he's just a dominant Lb that makes plays sideline to sideline and a true leader, he doesn't necessarily make the 'highlight' reel type of plays. now those are LB's not FS's.

Landry imo is a lot like Demeco. He's solid in his fundamentals. He is a much better tackler than just about every single safety in this class. he doesn't hit the defender with his shoulder every play, he tackles them. He's a proven leader in the secondary for the tigers and have played all four years. I think he's the type of safety you take in the first...even if it is top ten because you won't get the same qualities with any other person.

The only question I had about landry was his speed. I wasn't sure he would fast enough for FS in the nfl for a top ten pick. I have been flirting with taking him there depending on whos on the board. I thought he'd run a 4.45 or a 4.5, but when he came out with a 4.35 ....i was like damn! that answers the only question i had about him and threw it in my face.

Same 40 time as Calvin Johnson.

here's some highlights:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04
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Exactly, i thought he was just like Demeco too. both have natural instincts and are always around the ball.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.
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Laron is fast on the field too, agaisnt Miami he chased down Devin Hester from behind to make the tackle, and we know how fast Devin is.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.
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Wrong time to pull the "40 times don't matter" card. LaRon plays fast and and has been high on this board since before the beginning of the offseason. LaRon is indeed "FOOTBALL fast". This just proves yet how fast he actually is. I think you can look past a player running a bit slower than expected before you can look past a player that runs a very fast time. If Sidney Rice runs a 4.5 or 4.6 or whatever I can easily look past that because I have seen him play and I know he plays fast enough to beat the guy in front of him and it's not all about straight ahead speed with him but more about body control and shiftyness. But if I think Landry is a fast player maybe a 4.45 (which is plenty fast for a FS) but he runs a 4.35 for some reason I cannot look past that.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.
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Yea, That's why I said That I've liked landry for a VERY long time. He and Joe Thomas were my favorites for our selection back before last season even started.

I like everything about landry and the way he plays. That would be enough for me to select him at 8, although there may be players rated higher than him. I'll admit that I'd probably take a few players ahead of him. But now the combine is over and we've seen everybody.

His forty speed just is that little extra icing on top. although i havn't studied his game film, i've watched every game of his i can, and living in the SEC that's a lot. I love his game...this is just extra.

I like to think of it as We Need Landry bad. imo. If we selected him before at 8, the media would be saying its' a need pick and a reach. Now they will say that it is a legitimate pick and we shouldn't get ridiculed for it like we have been for the past year.
 
How did Landry do in the other drills. Anybody know how many reps he benched?? I looked on nfl.com but couldn't find his stuff too well.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I think it's about balance. We have got to get a good player at the safety position if we want our defense to be balanced.
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That was in response to somone saying we should draft Landry and move him to corner, since he ran a 4.35. I realize we need an upgrade at both CB and FS, with more emphasis on immediately improving the FS position.
 
after watching LaRon Landry run & interview he reminded me alot of Ronnie Lott who happened to be the 8th overall pick in 81 drafted to play CB switched to safety in 85. both seem solid as rocks LaRon just travels faster and is about 10 lbs heavier, thats a dangerous combination :ouch:

also I think he is equal/better pick @ #8 than last years #8 Donte Whitner or #7 Michael Huff safety/cb hybrids :)
 
beerlover said:
after watching LaRon Landry run & interview he reminded me alot of Ronnie Lott who happened to be the 8th overall pick in 81 drafted to play CB switched to safety in 85. both seem solid as rocks LaRon just travels faster and is about 10 lbs heavier, thats a dangerous combination :ouch:

also I think he is equal/better pick @ #8 than last years #8 Donte Whitner or #7 Michael Huff safety/cb hybrids :)
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oooh. ronnie lott is his idol. i can see peyton and vince being on 'jacked up' next season...with the blitzes smith will use landry in.
 
If Peterson is not available, I think we should pick him. He could single handedly shore up our secondary.
 
I'm also kinda hoping for a 1st round talent cb that slips to us in the 2nd. ..if Kalil is gone. say someone like aaron ross.
look at our young team!!!

D-LINE- 1st rd pick (mario)
LB- 2nd round pick (demeco)
S-1st round pick (landry)
CB-2nd rd pick (ross)

thats just the last two drafts...and would be a very young awesome defense for each position group.
 
Drafting Laron would give a leader to each of our defensive levels: Mario, Demeco, Dunta, and Laron. Is it just me but doesnt everyone of them hit hard, really hard! kinda scary.
 
i think the best thing about laron landry that everyone is going to like is aggressive playing style...this kid is not afraid to hit...he's not afraid to go for a pick...and unlike the current FS on our roster he has the speed to prevent the big play from happening like against buffalo this year...you put landry on the side faggins is covering and leave d-rob alone with the other reciever the offense is left with just slot and the flats...this makes for a tougher defense to throw on and with guys like peyton and young in our division we'll need that
 
Check this article out about Landry: http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-t25-sugarbowl-lsu&prov=ap&type=lgns. It's about how he was glad he stayed in school for his senior year.

Here are a few quotes:

"I came back to be with my team," Landry said. "I came back because I had a lot of goals I wanted to accomplish with them. That's what we're doing."

Landry was the leading tackler on one of the nation's top defenses. No. 4 LSU (10-2) ranks in the top five nationally in both points (12.5) and yards (238.7) allowed.

"LaRon Landry is a tremendous player, and I think you're going to see him play (in the Pro Bowl) some day," LSU defensive coordinator Bo Pelini said. "If you talk to the scouts, I think they'll say the same thing. Not only is a great athlete, he's tough, he has high character, he's intelligent. He's the total package. I've been lucky to have worked with him."
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Like the rest of you, i am now officially on the Laron bandwagon.. i always thought he was a good, solid player but not worthy of the #8 pick..now however with that speed, as well as his instincts and tackling, i just hope hes still there to grab.....

also would like a cb, wr or kalil in the 2nd
 
from www.draftdaddy.com in their blog section:

"Safety LaRon Landry and linebacker Patrick Willis were the best defensive players in Indy. Landry looks like a sure-fire top 10 pick, too. He had a Hall of Fame workout and his interviews were outstanding across the board. I heard Baltimore absolutely loves Landry, but they have no way of getting him. His interview with them was supposed to be things legends are made of. He actually broke down Baltimore's tape by memory because he had looked at every tape his brother gave him and he told DC Rex Ryan were mistakes were made from memory and what he would have done given the pre-snap reads."

There's our first round pick.
 
HuttoKarl said:
from www.draftdaddy.com in their blog section:

"Safety LaRon Landry and linebacker Patrick Willis were the best defensive players in Indy. Landry looks like a sure-fire top 10 pick, too. He had a Hall of Fame workout and his interviews were outstanding across the board. I heard Baltimore absolutely loves Landry, but they have no way of getting him. His interview with them was supposed to be things legends are made of. He actually broke down Baltimore's tape by memory because he had looked at every tape his brother gave him and he told DC Rex Ryan were mistakes were made from memory and what he would have done given the pre-snap reads."

There's our first round pick.
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Wow. Now that is impressive!
 
HuttoKarl said:
from www.draftdaddy.com in their blog section:

"Safety LaRon Landry and linebacker Patrick Willis were the best defensive players in Indy. Landry looks like a sure-fire top 10 pick, too. He had a Hall of Fame workout and his interviews were outstanding across the board. I heard Baltimore absolutely loves Landry, but they have no way of getting him. His interview with them was supposed to be things legends are made of. He actually broke down Baltimore's tape by memory because he had looked at every tape his brother gave him and he told DC Rex Ryan were mistakes were made from memory and what he would have done given the pre-snap reads."

There's our first round pick.
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i was really hoping we interviewed him or at least talked to him. hopefully now he'll study our film and he'll come work out for us and really blow away kubiak and smith.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
i was really hoping we interviewed him or at least talked to him. hopefully now he'll study our film and he'll come work out for us and really blow away kubiak and smith.
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Just knowing a player like that is in space behind DeMeco and Mario gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. He's our guy. Everybody collectively believe and keep repeating it and it'll happen. LaRon Landry, Houston Texan.
 
HuttoKarl said:
Just knowing a player like that is in space behind DeMeco and Mario gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. He's our guy. Everybody collectively believe and keep repeating it and it'll happen. LaRon Landry, Houston Texan.
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He would deff be the best pick in that situation and expecially if AP is gone, that will give us fans something to look foward to...:ok:
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
i was really hoping we interviewed him or at least talked to him. hopefully now he'll study our film and he'll come work out for us and really blow away kubiak and smith.
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they give him the 2006 texans v bills game...

Laron: 'I, um, wouldnt have let lee evans score 2 83yd bombs'

Kubiak + Smith: 'WE'RE SOLD!!!!!!!:yes: '
 
Man, a guy like Landry as the QB of the secondary would free up the Texans defense to do all kids of crazy blitzes. Following something I've heard Dungy say, I beleive a defense needs rare talent at each level. The Texans have Williams on the line and Ryans anchoring the center of the LB core. At 6'2" 213 lbs. with his speed and football ability, Landry would have an amazing effect on this team's defense.

Now, I know Vinny has mentioned drafting or signing a CB and moving Robinson to FS. The way Robinson hits, I believe that can work, but I like the idea of having a big, fast hard hitting safety even more.

Anyway it goes, the Texans might do well to not lose picks by trading up and just sticking at 8 and taking the BPA, who could very well be Landry.
 
I have always wanted to take Laron but always thought it might be a little bit of a reach. i was very surprised to hear what he ran, i was thinking more in the 4.4 range. i always thought of him as one of those players that played faster because of there instincts. i am kind of a homer, but he is one of my favorite players to watch in person, he flies all over the field and lays the wood. i think if AD isn't there, Landry needs to be the pick unless we address the FS need in FA.
 
nunusguy said:
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.
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He would be a perfect fit at safety with the Texans, with his speed he is all over the field. Between him and Dunta, they could shut down half the field, if not more. Besides, with today's offenses, he would still cover in 3-WR sets.
 
trutxn said:
He would be a perfect fit at safety with the Texans, with his speed he is all over the field. Between him and Dunta, they could shut down half the field, if not more. Besides, with today's offenses, he would still cover in 3-WR sets.
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The Landry pick would be too good of an idea. Why don't we let the Colts, Pats or Ravens have all the high-end talent like we do every season. I'm even hearing now that the 49ers are a productive offseason away from making a possible Super Bowl push. Gee, WHEN are we gonna hear that about the Texans?
 
After watching his highlight clips, I really want him now. I always liked him, but seeing some of those hits. I just closed my eyes replayed the clip, but replace those QBs with Peyton or Young and my pulse just quickened.
 
i just want to throw this out there in support for drafting landry...can you imagine this defensive line-up

with the cuts today and probably tomorrow we might have enough cap room to sign nate clements...if so our defensive lineup would look like this

williams johnson maddox weaver
orr ryans greenwood
robinson earl/brown landry clements

personally i believe if you put earl and cc brown in heavy competition for the starting SS position earl will win it

signing clements would allow faggins to play nickelback

all we would have to do is add a OLB and either a DT or DE and this defense would be set
 
keyfro said:
i just want to throw this out there in support for drafting landry...can you imagine this defensive line-up

with the cuts today and probably tomorrow we might have enough cap room to sign nate clements...if so our defensive lineup would look like this

williams johnson maddox weaver
orr ryans greenwood
robinson earl/brown landry clements

personally i believe if you put earl and cc brown in heavy competition for the starting SS position earl will win it

signing clements would allow faggins to play nickelback

all we would have to do is add a OLB and either a DT or DE and this defense would be set
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And what do you do for your two starting offesive tackles...Draft 'em in rounds two and four ?
 
boy, i like the idea of drafting laron landry.... that speed, that tackling ability, that experience, that conference... it just adds up to good things IMO
 
Texas_Thrill said:
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.
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AD & Laron have been my guys since forever, I agree with you though, good post.
 
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