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some more forty times
Chris Houston 4.32
LaRon Landry 4.35
Marcus McCauley 4.38
Leon Hall 4.39
Travarous Bain 4.43
David Irons 4.44
Michael Griffin 4.45
Aaron Ross 4.47
Brandon Merriweather 4.50
Ndukwe, Chinedum 4.51
Reggie Nelson 4.53
Isn't that kinda fast for a safety?? has he ever played Corner??
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.
There's more to being a corner than being fast.
I think he acknowledged that by saying, "if he has any cover skills at all"
He might not be the best cover guy right now, but you can teach that stuff... you can't teach 4.35
I think he acknowledged that by saying, "if he has any cover skills at all"
He might not be the best cover guy right now, but you can teach that stuff... you can't teach 4.35
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.
I totally agree with you Thunderkyss !If he can play corner, I'd have no problem taking him with the #8 pick. None whatsoever.
I realize that, but if you don't have it - well remember the Buffalo game when Petty got burnt twice by the speed of the Bills WR ?There's more to being a corner than being fast.
I realize that, but if you don't have it - well remember the Buffalo game when Petty got burnt twice by the speed of the Bills WR ?
You gotta be 4.3 or no more than 4.4 to cover the AJs, the Chad Johnsons, etc.
End of story.
too fast? that's kind of ridiculous to be considered "too fast". In today's NFL you WANT fast FS's because they are often locked in man coverage.....corners have better hips than Landry....you have to be able to sprint backwards and have fluid hips to turn and run...just because you run fast doesn't mean you can play cornerback or we would just see every track and field guy back there.
these arguments are ridiculous. no one is saying that technique isn't important. it's that speed IS. how bout this, i'll take a guy with great speed and good technique over a guy with great speed and no technique.I don't think thats true...
I'd rather have a Corner with not as much speed but great technique vs. a guy with a lot of speed with little technique
I realize that, but if you don't have it - well remember the Buffalo game when Petty got burnt twice by the speed of the Bills WR ?
You gotta be 4.3 or no more than 4.4 to cover the AJs, the Chad Johnsons, etc.
End of story.
these arguments are ridiculous. no one is saying that technique isn't important. it's that speed IS. how bout this, i'll take a guy with great speed and good technique over a guy with great speed and no technique.
Obviously !just because you run fast doesn't mean you can play cornerback or we would just see every track and field guy back there.
I'm with Vinny. A FS who can actually run sideline to sideline with great range, and can cover would be great. Why move him to corner? Wouldn't you rather have an ultrafast safety who is a standout at his position? As a corner, he would not be in a class by himself in terms of speed, but as a safety? How many safety's run a sub 4.4. Second issue is skills and physical attributes. We know he has the skills to be a safety, but why then force a round peg into a square hole? I don't get it. Put him at FS, and let him roam the backfield.
Obviously !
But a DB with the best cover skills in the world will get the dog dung burnt out
of himself if he's no faster than say 4.6 when he's trying to handle a speed reciever.
Without the raw speed, a DB is not even in the conversation to play CB
against the fast WRs.
Exactly! Remember, it's not as if we've already got good quality at FS right now. I want a cover-corner too, but fill the glaring need with a perfect fit if it's there.I'm with Vinny. A FS who can actually run sideline to sideline with great range, and can cover would be great. Why move him to corner? Wouldn't you rather have an ultrafast safety who is a standout at his position? As a corner, he would not be in a class by himself in terms of speed, but as a safety? How many safety's run a sub 4.4. Second issue is skills and physical attributes. We know he has the skills to be a safety, but why then force a round peg into a square hole? I don't get it. Put him at FS, and let him roam the backfield.
there are no dots. speed is vital. but no one is talking about taking speed over technique.What is your point ?
We're talking about switching a players position based on speed.
Can you connect the dots ?
The 40-yard dash times for the first group of defensive backs were phenomenal. Among the highlights were safety LaRon Landry of LSU running a 4.32, Chris Houston of Arkansas (4.35), Leon Hall of Michigan (4.38), Michael Griffin of Texas (4.41), Tarell Brown of Texas (4.48) and Michael Coe of Alabama State (4.49). Overall, it was a Very fast group.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/10026017
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Gil Brandt has even faster times for Landry & Hall than origionally reported here.
but no one is talking about taking speed over technique.
We know we'll be seeing Vince Young and Manning for the next decade, so Landry would be helpful.
not at all...If you're talking about moving a fast FS to corner, you kinda are.
You know, that makes a lot of sense.
Landry would be a great fit at #8 as our FS. He's shown the ability to make big plays all through his collegiate career. I have no doubt that he'd be capable of making big plays in the NFL as well.