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Kubiak on Sports Sunday

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For those that didn't know and a reminder to everyone else, Kubiak will be on Sports Sunday doing a one-on-one interview w/Randy McIlvoy.
Hopefully its a long one w/some good info for the fans.

Cheers
 
AustinJB said:
Can someone please post the main points for all of us out-of-towners?
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The following is a brief paraphrase of his interview.

*Starts off with Kubiak saying "Happy to be home in Houston"

*Then he discusses getting coaching staff together. No details or names.

*Comments on Carr - "Great athlete, tough kid, build around him. Make him succesful."

*1st message to team - "Forget 2-14...new system all together with high expectations."

Short interview. No big surprises.
 
"*Comments on Carr - "Great athlete, tough kid, build around him. Make him succesful.""

how did he phrase that exactly? the build around him part, did he "we are going to build around him"?
 
travfrancis said:
"*Comments on Carr - "Great athlete, tough kid, build around him. Make him succesful.""

how did he phrase that exactly? the build around him part, did he "we are going to build around him"?
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thats what he said.
 
He was never asked about the draft nor did he comment on it.

A few minutes later they showed VY at Tx Childrens Hospital on a 3+ hour visit. Compelling stuff since he isn't even on a team yet and isn't being asked/obligated to visits like that.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
He was never asked about the draft nor did he comment on it.

A few minutes later they showed VY at Tx Childrens Hospital on a 3+ hour visit. Compelling stuff since he isn't even on a team yet and isn't being asked/obligated to visits like that.
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sure his agent recommended it...don't be fooled
 
PowerfulDragon said:
it sucks that we live in a time that we have to doubt the motives of a charitable celebrity.
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I know VY has a good heart. You can tell just by listening to him speak. Even though I am not in the camp of drafting him, I respect him VERY much. He is a very good person and I wish him the best, except the days he plays us if we do not draft him. :)
 
PowerfulDragon said:
it sucks that we live in a time that we have to doubt the motives of a charitable celebrity.
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I hate to say it but there is no such thing as a charitable act. Think about it. If you do volunteer work, why do you do it? If you are a student, you could be padding the ol resume, you could be trying to gain expierence, or looking to network. These are all gains you get from volunteer work. Another explanation might be that it makes you feel good. Well, that is also a gain.

In the same idea, there is no such thing as charitable work. In all cases, the person doing it is getting something out of it. Was it nice to see Vince Young going to the hoispital: sure, but it wasnt charitable, since no act is TRULY Charitable.
 
awtysst said:
I hate to say it but there is no such thing as a charitable act. Think about it. If you do volunteer work, why do you do it? If you are a student, you could be padding the ol resume, you could be trying to gain expierence, or looking to network. These are all gains you get from volunteer work. Another explanation might be that it makes you feel good. Well, that is also a gain.

In the same idea, there is no such thing as charitable work. In all cases, the person doing it is getting something out of it. Was it nice to see Vince Young going to the hoispital: sure, but it wasnt charitable, since no act is TRULY Charitable.
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I guarantee you there are a lot of things VY has done and you haven't seen it on TV. There is a lot of good-hearted humans who do things simply because they have a generous heart. You aren't going to see things like this on TV because they do not try to attract attention to themselves.
 
Jack Bauer said:
I guarantee you there are a lot of things VY has done and you haven't seen it on TV. There is a lot of good-hearted humans who do things simply because they have a generous heart. You aren't going to see things like this on TV because they do not try to attract attention to themselves.
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well good for him

but that should have no bearing on whether or not the Texans should draft him
 
awtysst said:
In the same idea, there is no such thing as charitable work. In all cases, the person doing it is getting something out of it. Was it nice to see Vince Young going to the hoispital: sure, but it wasnt charitable, since no act is TRULY Charitable.
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And I thought I was the King of Cynicism. I bow down in your presence.

If Vince spends 10 minutes at the hospital, it's an appearance. If he's there for 3 hours, it's because he wants to be there. Though I'm not his biggest fan, I'll cut Sean Penn the same slack.
 
Lucky said:
And I thought I was the King of Cynicism. I bow down in your presence.

If Vince spends 10 minutes at the hospital, it's an appearance. If he's there for 3 hours, it's because he wants to be there. Though I'm not his biggest fan, I'll cut Sean Penn the same slack.
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Not to turn this into the No Sports Allowed board, but how? The guy made sure his camera crew was there. Sorry, but real charity is what you do when no one's looking.
 
BradK10 said:
well good for him

but that should have no bearing on whether or not the Texans should draft him
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Just to clarify, I actually prefer to draft Bush or trade down.

So I am just saying that we should not beat VY down just to make our point that we want someone else. Whether he is the right pick for the Texans has nothing to do with his qualities as a human being. VY is one of the best.
 
BradK10 said:
sure his agent recommended it...don't be fooled
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Yeah but him and his agent are good friends so there is give and take there. I'm sure his agnt doesn't even want him breathing second hand smoke at a restaurant until he signs a contract though.

I'm sure his agent and him are getting together on appearances instead of his agent telling him where to go.
 
BradK10 said:
Not to turn this into the No Sports Allowed board, but how? The guy made sure his camera crew was there. Sorry, but real charity is what you do when no one's looking.
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I don't know what his motivation was or why he was filming. Neither do you. He was there when a lot of people weren't. Helping is helping. That should be enough.
 
Jack Bauer said:
I guarantee you there are a lot of things VY has done and you haven't seen it on TV. There is a lot of good-hearted humans who do things simply because they have a generous heart. You aren't going to see things like this on TV because they do not try to attract attention to themselves.
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I never once mentioned television cameras. Ask yourself this, what does it mean to be a "good hearted human"? You say he has a good heart. I never said he didnt. I simply said, that one reaosn people do things is because it makes them feel good. That is the basis for any "charitable act". The fact is, charitable means that the person giving, does not get anything in return. If that is so, then the act of getting satisfaction is something and thus negates the idea of a charitable act. THAT is what I said.
 
Lucky said:
I don't know what his motivation was or why he was filming. Neither do you. He was there when a lot of people weren't. Helping is helping. That should be enough.
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well, helping is helping when you have a boat that doesnt have a leak in it ;)
 
Lucky said:
And I thought I was the King of Cynicism. I bow down in your presence.

If Vince spends 10 minutes at the hospital, it's an appearance. If he's there for 3 hours, it's because he wants to be there. Though I'm not his biggest fan, I'll cut Sean Penn the same slack.
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It does not matter how long he is there, its not a charitable act. Why was Vince Young there int he first place? Lets take the high road and sais he was there becuase he cared about the kids. Good for you Vince. Now, the fact is, when he left, he felt better. He felt better about himself and felt like he did something good for another person. And there is the problem, he gained a sense of satisfaction. Thus it cannot be chairtable, since he got something out of it.

oh, and lucky, I am not the King of Cynicism, I abdicate my crown to thee.
 
awtysst said:
I never once mentioned television cameras. Ask yourself this, what does it mean to be a "good hearted human"? You say he has a good heart. I never said he didnt. I simply said, that one reaosn people do things is because it makes them feel good. That is the basis for any "charitable act". The fact is, charitable means that the person giving, does not get anything in return. If that is so, then the act of getting satisfaction is something and thus negates the idea of a charitable act. THAT is what I said.
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I wasn't trying to argue. Only pointing out that many people do "charitable" things without attention. Why don't you hear about them? Well...I'll leave it at that.
 
It wasn't his camera crew. It was channel 2 and chanel 2 only. That sounds like someone at the hospital called someone (maybe a friend or something) that worked at 2. Funny how they were the only ones there.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
It wasn't his camera crew. It was channel 2 and chanel 2 only. That sounds like someone at the hospital called someone (maybe a friend or something) that worked at 2. Funny how they were the only ones there.....NOT.
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when i was discussin camera crews i was talkin about sean penn...keep up
 
Just to clarify, this is what charitable means to me:

Generous in giving money or other help to the needy.

This is from dictionary.com and it is simple and straightforward. Pretty much how I would define the word.

What VY did would qualify under my definition. That is my two cents.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
I'm on a lap top, these finger pad mouse thingies slow me up.
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if you struggle with that you have the little knob thing between the G and H keys? i'm a touchpad fan myself on my laptop for work
 
awtysst said:
I hate to say it but there is no such thing as a charitable act. Think about it. If you do volunteer work, why do you do it? If you are a student, you could be padding the ol resume, you could be trying to gain expierence, or looking to network. These are all gains you get from volunteer work. Another explanation might be that it makes you feel good. Well, that is also a gain.

In the same idea, there is no such thing as charitable work. In all cases, the person doing it is getting something out of it. Was it nice to see Vince Young going to the hoispital: sure, but it wasnt charitable, since no act is TRULY Charitable.
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i respectfully disagree, i've done loads of volunteer work for no reason but to see the look of joy in the faces of the people i've helped. i did meals on wheels, worked the food bank, spent time at retirement homes, and took care of homeless children. i understand your argument, but i personally do not do volunteer work to wear a badge, i do it because i really want to help.

re: sean penn, the man used his clout as a celebrity to his advantage, and i'd like to shake his hand for that.
 
Jack Bauer said:
Just to clarify, this is what charitable means to me:

Generous in giving money or other help to the needy.

This is from dictionary.com and it is simple and straightforward. Pretty much how I would define the word.

What VY did would qualify under my definition. That is my two cents.
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Ok. Thats fine. In my mind you described an act of kindness and a generous act. I think its a great thing he did, but in my mind charitable also means that the person giving receives no reward at the end. Thats where our definitions differ, i suppose.
 
PowerfulDragon said:
i respectfully disagree, i've done loads of volunteer work for no reason but to see the look of joy in the faces of the people i've helped. i did meals on wheels, worked the food bank, spent time at retirement homes, and took care of homeless children. i understand your argument, but i personally do not do volunteer work to wear a badge, i do it because i really want to help.

re: sean penn, the man used his clout as a celebrity to his advantage, and i'd like to shake his hand for that.
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There. That is your reward right there. In your own words, "i've done loads of volunteer work for no reason but to see the look of joy in the faces of the people i've helped." That is your reward: the feeling of doing something good for another person. You should be proud becuase it is a wonderful thing you are doing(I actually also do quite a bit of it myself). I hope you continue to do so. My point is, you are getting somethign out of it, and that negates the idea of a charitable act. It is a generous act and a wonderful act, but not charitable in my book. Thats why I think no act is truly charitable.
 
awtysst said:
I hate to say it but there is no such thing as a charitable act. Think about it. If you do volunteer work, why do you do it? If you are a student, you could be padding the ol resume, you could be trying to gain expierence, or looking to network. These are all gains you get from volunteer work. Another explanation might be that it makes you feel good. Well, that is also a gain.

In the same idea, there is no such thing as charitable work. In all cases, the person doing it is getting something out of it. Was it nice to see Vince Young going to the hoispital: sure, but it wasnt charitable, since no act is TRULY Charitable.
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OK ... so it makes him feel good to go see sick kids at Texas Children's Hopsital ... he gets personal satisfaction from visiting kids in the hospital ... how does that diminish the act at all?
 
awtysst said:
My point is, you are getting somethign out of it, and that negates the idea of a charitable act. It is a generous act and a wonderful act, but not charitable in my book. Thats why I think no act is truly charitable.
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Do you mind me asking where you got that definition? By your definition, the word charitable should not even be a word because it could not possibly exist.

:brickwall I'm sorry, I just do not understand.
 
Kathmandu said:
OK ... so it makes him feel good to go see sick kids at Texas Children's Hopsital ... he gets personal satisfaction from visiting kids in the hospital ... how does that diminish the act at all?
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Nope. You misunderstood. My problem is with the word charitable. The act he did was fine. I have a problem with the idea that a charitable act can exist. People do things becuase they get something out of it. Its basic human nature. But it doesnt diminish the act. My problem is with the word, not the act.
 
Jack Bauer said:
Do you mind me asking where you got that definition? By your definition, the word charitable should not even be a word because it could not possibly exist.

:brickwall I'm sorry, I just do not understand.
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YES! Now you got it! Charitable is an abstract theoretical idea. It cannot exist in the real word becuase of human nature. This is a philosophical discussion on theoretical semantics. Mods and Sportsfan, I apologize for hijacking the thread.
 
awtysst said:
YES! Now you got it! Charitable is an abstract theoretical idea. It cannot exist in the real word becuase of human nature.
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So where do you get your definition. That is not what most people would define as charitable. I see what you mean if you get paid for it, but the emotional tie-in makes no sense to me.
 
awtysst said:
Nope. You misunderstood. My problem is with the word charitable. The act he did was fine. I have a problem with the idea that a charitable act can exist. People do things becuase they get something out of it. Its basic human nature. But it doesnt diminish the act. My problem is with the word, not the act.
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Geez, and we thought the VY over Bush or vice versa was controversial. You single handedly made some Raider fan (welcome, by the way who do you like for our team VY or Bush?) become a member. I see where you are going with it but it's a hard thing to sell. Too much outside of the box thinkin'
 
Jack Bauer said:
Do you mind me asking where you got that definition? By your definition, the word charitable should not even be a word because it could not possibly exist.

:brickwall I'm sorry, I just do not understand.
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It's an old philosophical argument that people usually get from their prof's. Basically means if he was truly being charitable, he would have to be miserable throughout the experience and get no sort of payoff from it.

My :twocents: : the guy has shown himself to be a man of character during his time in Austin and since. Doesn't matter which camp you're in here... if you're slamming someone in the current draft debate (Carr or Young,) you're probably slamming a nice guy.
 
I understand ... I took philosophy in college. Perhaps it's technically correct, but what's the point mentioning it if not to diminish the act by saying ... "yeah but he got a personal benefit out of it."

This is my first time here ... is everyone here so technical?
 
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