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Kris Brown

Draft a freaking kicker........I don't care if we have to take one in the first round at this point. Kubiak aside....Kris Brown has single handedly cost us a playoff birth.
 
This is on the organization and their "nice" ways. Winning teams try to improve. Their willingness to let him lose games is ridiculous
 
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Third missed kick this game. I say just go for two point conversions and 4th down if we're within field goal range because you certainly cannot count on the kicking game.
 
I'm sure the Texans will perform a plodding, methodical analysis of the kicking game after the season is over.
 
Well, it's the 3rd quarter and KB just missed another FG. That's 2 missed FG's and a missed EP so far in this game. I know this is all in his head, but enough is enough already. I know he's an original Texan but it's time for him to leave. And take the other Brown with you!
 
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Maybe we should switch them up.

As I recall, Kris runs pretty good for a kicker, and there is no way Chris could be much worse kicking...
 
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How do you really feel?
 
They better bring in A LOT of competition for him in next season's training camp.

If he wins the starting job then I won't complain.
 
I want us to get rid of KB tonight, get some damn ex-college kicker and sign him... Hell, give Morten Andersen a call, I know he retired, but if we're REALLY lucky and get in the PO's he wont be able to pass up the offer :)

Morten Andersen for kicker, right here, right now! :)
 
Hookem Horns said:
BTW, Kubiak has not been as effective as a head coach as Kris Brown has been as a kicker IMO.
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Untrue. Kris Brown has been a poor kicker in his Texans career. He has a career average of 77.8% going into this season, which is in the bottom 25% of all NFL kickers. That number's gone down. Kubiak is not in the bottom 25% of coaches in the NFL, even if he isn't the guy to get the job done here.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Draft a freaking kicker........I don't care if we have to take one in the first round at this point. Kubiak aside....Kris Brown has single handedly cost us a playoff birth.
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Yeah i hate to say that we should draft a kicker but NE drafted Gostkowski and you see how that worked out. He wins games for them, Brown loses games for us. Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and do it.
 
Malloy said:
I want us to get rid of KB tonight, get some damn ex-college kicker and sign him... Hell, give Morten Andersen a call, I know he retired, but if we're REALLY lucky and get in the PO's he wont be able to pass up the offer :)

Morten Andersen for kicker, right here, right now! :)
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Carney is still available as far as I know.
 
Does anyone have Ian Howfield on speed dial?

Or anyone with the last name Zendejas or Grammatica?
 
Makes a person wonder if our offense nutted up when they knew they couldn't count on Kris Brown's foot to help them win the game.

That'll grow up an offense in a hurry.

They didn't want to hear the Reliant Stadium boos if they failed to get a TD and then lost because of missed FGs and an extra point.
 
kris brown's done. as a kicker, there's really not much of a chance for the comeback necessary mentally ... especially at his age. i'm really suprised he lasted this long. his mechanics are flawed, have been flawed for most of his career, and couldnt be more obviously irreversable as he proved today (he dang near stepped on the ball with his plant foot on the failed extra point).

kris brown has 2 problems. 1)his psyche is shot. it'd be near impossible to regain the self-assuredness required to do the job at his age. 2)like i've said before, his mechanics (namely his approach) are FUBAR. there's a reason kickers take measured steps back and to the side before the snap - the approach dictates your plant foot which is everything. it is the simplest motion in football, and at the same time the most difficult ... the slightest fraction off alters the entire kicking motion to compensate.

his missed extra point is a perfect (and exaggerated) example of kris brown's problem ... his "hitch in his giddy-up" or "bounce in his step" or whatever you want to call it makes it impossible to plant with any consistancy. that flawed step like with the extra point showed up being WAY too far inside, forcing him to compensate with a somewhat roundhouse kick and a monster pull. for his 3rd miss, he did the same but instead of crossing through the ball for a pull, he overcompensated with a straight or "top-down" or "inside-out" kick (as he did in every other attempt) which resulted in a slice to his outside.
 
He was awful again today and his confidence is clearly shot.... I for one hope at the very least we have a kicker compete with him next year in camp...that is if he's not cut. His extension brought his cap number up and I really don't see the logic in keeping him, we can pay a guy league minimum to miss the kicks Brown has missed.
 
Well as much as I regret attempting to defend KB, here it is. Just like a golfer, kickers can develop bad habits, it's not the end of the world. Kris has been a suitable kicker for this team for 8 of the 9yrs he's been here. If we go back to Kris's days as a kicker for the Steelers, we'd see he had a bad last year there. My wife is the ultimate Steeler fan, (I know, but it's my life) she laughed when we got KB, said he was the epitome of suckage. Maybe it was Heinze Field, but whatever it was, he cured it for a long time in a Texans uniform. Get the boy a shrink, someone give him some tips, and bring in other kickers to apply the pressure, lets see whats left in his tank, he may surprise all of us with a comeback :)
 
Gotta say it ... a kicker has one job. You can't fail at that one job so miserably.

He's a vet, sure, but he's got no real upside right now. Not an incredible leg, sure as hell not accurate.

He cost us two games this year and damn near a third. I'm not sure that the broken can be fixed, but at the very least, draft a kicker who will give him serious competition.
 
In my opinion kickers are interchangeable for the most part...save maybe 4 top guys. The Cowboys in the 90s had a top kicking coach and they seemed to bring in a new journeyman per year and somehow he ended up being nails. There are probably 5-6 guys out there sitting at home as good as Kris Brown. Guys just need to have confidence and get coached up on technique. It is no shame to lose yoru mojo after being consistent. It happens.
 
I say we kick him to the curb immediately.

Football is a business, and he's not doing his job. He was given the entire season to turn it around, and on the last game of the regular season, he missed an extra point. Thats the end of it.

I hope he's out by noon today
 
HoustonFrog said:
In my opinion kickers are interchangeable for the most part...save maybe 4 top guys. The Cowboys in the 90s had a top kicking coach and they seemed to bring in a new journeyman per year and somehow he ended up being nails. There are probably 5-6 guys out there sitting at home as good as Kris Brown. Guys just need to have confidence and get coached up on technique. It is no shame to lose yoru mojo after being consistent. It happens.
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Consistent? I guess .... Six of the past nine seasons he hasn't even achieved his rather low career percentage of 77.3%. That's pretty consistent, alright.
 
HoustonFrog said:
The Cowboys in the 90s had a top kicking coach and they seemed to bring in a new journeyman per year and somehow he ended up being nails.
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I believe the Cowboys were and remain the only team to have had a dedicated kicking coach (where that was his only job). It was obviously paying off at the time for them - you're right, they had a string of out-of-nowhere really solid kickers, and I think that coach was the main reason. I am surprised that no other teams that I know of have gone this route (a dedicated kicking coach), and even the Cowboys have stopped having one. I know it's a lot to invest in one player/position, but it is such a critical part of the game (and coaches' salaries don't count against the cap) that I would think more teams would have tried it.
 
eriadoc said:
Consistent? I guess .... Six of the past nine seasons he hasn't even achieved his rather low career percentage of 77.3%. That's pretty consistent, alright.
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Sorry, I didn't mean in his career completely or even here all years. Just considering the team had him for 8 years he is considered a "consistent roster spot." I agree that he hasn't had an illustrious career if you take away 2-3 years. But your point makes mine even more....they are interchangeable and people shouldn't be so attached to him. You can bring in many other guys.
 
I think it's possible that he just doesn't want to do it anymore.

If you don't enjoy what you do, you can sort of sabotage yourself without even knowing it or without doing it on purpose, at least.

Nobody's going to want him after the season he's had here.

I didn't realize that his percentage was as low as had been mentioned on here. I know he's not the best in the game, but I had always thought of him as being a good kicker.
 
I've been on Kris' side a majority of the season, but good Lord, man! Some could argue that this cat alone cost us a reasonable shot at the playoffs. Sure, two missed kicks were just to send the game to OT, but we'll never know what might have happened.

Teams like Dallas and Washington whack their kickers during the season for poor play, but we hang on to Brown, who's been statistically the worst kicker in the league this year.

IMO, the kicker position is now an off-season priority. I'm just upset we just gave the guy a new 4 year contract.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I've been on Kris' side a majority of the season, but good Lord, man! Some could argue that this cat alone cost us a reasonable shot at the playoffs. Sure, two missed kicks were just to send the game to OT, but we'll never know what might have happened.

Teams like Dallas and Washington whack their kickers during the season for poor play, but we hang on to Brown, who's been statistically the worst kicker in the league this year.

IMO, the kicker position is now an off-season priority. I'm just upset we just gave the guy a new 4 year contract.
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Kubiak protects his players, this is a well known fact, but there is no doubt the team has lost confidence in him, and more importantly Kris has lost confidence in his own abilities.

We'll bring in a kicker and he'll win the job, and I'm sure there has to be some sort of "you suck" clause in his contract extension to where we can walk away for a reduced cost.
 
silvrhand said:
Kubiak protects his players, this is a well known fact, but there is no doubt the team has lost confidence in him, and more importantly Kris has lost confidence in his own abilities.

We'll bring in a kicker and he'll win the job, and I'm sure there has to be some sort of "you suck" clause in his contract extension to where we can walk away for a reduced cost.
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Great point. I hadn't even thought of that. Yeah, there probably is a performance clause that lets them walk away cheaply. That may make it easier for them to cut him.

Great point.
 
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