I know.
It sure looks like that teams (or some team) just don't offer a vet minimum to their own FAs.
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Kevin Walter Cut *UPDATE* Signs with Titans
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I know.
It sure looks like that teams (or some team) just don't offer a vet minimum to their own FAs.
More than likely we'll have Keo locked on him.
CretorFrigg
Fire Rick Smith
The Titan fans are talking about how sweet it would be if Kevin Walter converted a long third and down against us on their message board.
lol @ the thought of Kevin Walter getting targeted.
lol @ the thought of Kevin Walter getting targeted.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Didn't some of us have the same mindset regarding Jacoby Jones??The Titan fans are talking about how sweet it would be if Kevin Walter converted a long third and down against us on their message board.
Stranger stuff has happened is all I'm pointing out.
rolyat93
Waterboy
He doesn't know anything that they don't already know.
Surely you don't believe that. Kevin Walter has been in this offense for years. I'm pretty sure he knows some things about us that the Titans don't.
Doesn't mean it will be earth shattering and lead to them winning, but I'm almost positive Walter can tell them some things about this offense (and maybe even the defense) that they don't know.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Shouldn't this get moved over to the NFL section?
Goatcheese
Texan
That just seems so wrong. Signing with a division opponent is a great way to make former fans dislike you.
You are right
tru80texan
Waterboy
Walter being a Texan made me dislike him.
Walter is not a threat as a Titan & we will probably very rarely see him on the field because the Titans actually have 2 quality starting WR's...neither of which are Walter. Walter's best asset to the titans is divulging info about the Texans offense. The Texan's offense should hopefully have a little bit of a twist Walter hasn't seen...a #2 WR that can produce something other than a run block.
GP
Go Texans!
That's almost a MILLION--in theory--for playing for the Titans and probably will get cut at some point...they're just using him for information because of his longevity in the system. A camp body, as well.
I figure whatever signing bonus they paid him is all he'll ever earn. They won't pay him the full $910,000. He'll never crack the opening week 53-man roster. Bud Adams and his demons are just using him and will throw him away, and even if K-Dub knows this...he still wants the signing bonus money. It's money. Right? Right.
K-Dub caught the playoff-clinching pass in the road game vs. Bengals 2 years ago...now he's counseling the Titans on how our offense works and what to look for. Awesome. LOL. Then again, it's not like you have to know a helluva' lot to shut down Gary Kubiak's offense. It's not that hard.
fiasco west
All Pro
Walter being a Texan made me dislike him.
Walter is not a threat as a Titan & we will probably very rarely see him on the field because the Titans actually have 2 quality starting WR's...neither of which are Walter. Walter's best asset to the titans is divulging info about the Texans offense. The Texan's offense should hopefully have a little bit of a twist Walter hasn't seen...a #2 WR that can produce something other than a run block.
Are we talking about Britt being one of those WRs?
If so he's probably suspended for something and if not will be before week 5.
Goatcheese
Texan
HJam72
Hall of Fame
Um, we had a top 10 Offense our first 4 years???.....and the 5th best in 2005 when we went 2-14???????
GP
Go Texans!
Ah, the old STATS GAME! LMAO!
Pathetic.
I know how to shut down Gary Kubiak's offense. All you have to do is hold the Texans to only 1 or 2 yards on first down...the rest takes care of itself due to Gary's predictable playcalling on 2nd and 3rd down in those long yardage situations.
Gary crumbles every time he thinks his QB might be put in a tough position, so he dials back the playcalling to ensure that Wade's defense gets a chance to give him the ball back.
I've never seen a HC bank so much of his decision making upon whether 2nd and 3rd downs are manageable or not. He's become increasingly conservative because he now has a top-flight defense to cover for him.
More stats, though. Please feed me more stats. I need to see all of the accomplishments of our offense and its QB. Soothes the soul in times of depression, allows me to not focus on how his stats mean jack **** in games where our opponent makes us break before we make them break.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Kubiak offenses, not necessarily Texans offenses.Um, we had a top 10 Offense our first 4 years???.....and the 5th best in 2005 when we went 2-14???????
Who's "Young"? Is he on our roster, or we planning on drafting him and him producing out of the box?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Um, we had a top 10 Offense our first 4 years???.....and the 5th best in 2005 when we went 2-14???????
Notice the line. He's showing KUBIAK's offenses ratings. Those first 4 were from Denver.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
More stats.
You can't win an "all stats suck" argument using stats. You've got to use their eyeballs.... not yours, theirs. If they said Kubiak's offense sucks, it's predictable, & they can shut it down (it's easy, just stop them on 1st & 2nd down...... easy)... then that's all you're allowed to use in your rebuttal.
13 wins... sheesh. 13 is quickly becoming the new 10.
GP
Go Texans!
Stats. Stats? We talkin' 'bout STATS?
LOL.
Oh man, what we do in order to make us feel good about our team. It's like Texans football fans live in a bubble...we have all these stats to admire.
Let's show people our Stats Championship Rings. Get 'em fitted, boys, we got stats!
My goodness, we rank right up there with the best of 'em!
LOL.
Oh man, what we do in order to make us feel good about our team. It's like Texans football fans live in a bubble...we have all these stats to admire.
Let's show people our Stats Championship Rings. Get 'em fitted, boys, we got stats!
My goodness, we rank right up there with the best of 'em!
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Stats. Stats? We talkin' 'bout STATS?
LOL.
Oh man, what we do in order to make us feel good about our team. It's like Texans football fans live in a bubble...we have all these stats to admire.
Let's show people our Stats Championship Rings. Get 'em fitted, boys, we got stats!
My goodness, we rank right up there with the best of 'em!
Here's some stats: 2 consecutive years in the playoffs, 2 consecutive years winning out division, two consecutive years with a victory in the playoffs.
But. Yeah. You're right. Let's use our eyeballs.
We suck. Fire all of them. Obviously, the entire league has figured out how to stop our offense and how to shred our defense.
Time to clean house and start from scratch. Let's get a new owner who's not so damned cheap, too.
A few years ago, I said that it wouldn't matter if we went to the playoffs or if we won games, there are some people on this board who are NOT going to be happy. From where I'm sitting, that's exactly what this looks like. There are some guys who are going to be moaning and griping even if we win a few Super Bowls.
Kubiak's legacy hasn't been written. But I do wish people would stop throwing around the back to back play offs and 12 wins like that's some sort of major accomplishment. It's makes me cringe a bit. It's a good thing, but it's not hire a sky writer and alert the pope worthy. Kubiak himself said that he's lucky to still have a job a couple seasons ago. So it's not outrageous when fans question his overall effectiveness.
Quite a few coaches have done more than kubiak and have been thought less of. Dennis Green had culpepper putting up great numbers for years in minny. They won faster and more than we have here and no one thinks green is some great coach or that culpepper was some untouchable qb.
Norv turner, Jim mora, Jim haslett...there's been a bunch of coaches that have won games...won play off games...
But the stats their teams put up and the wins they got didn't mean that their shortcomings would be ignored.
I don't care for kubiak for a few reasons. But I'm not going to say he absolutely can't win a superbowl. He's still kind of young as a head coach. Hopefully he's learning.
But what he's done so far is not some monster resume to the point where he's above criticism and built so much goodwill that it's blasphemy to talk about him maybe not being good enough.
Quite a few coaches have done more than kubiak and have been thought less of. Dennis Green had culpepper putting up great numbers for years in minny. They won faster and more than we have here and no one thinks green is some great coach or that culpepper was some untouchable qb.
Norv turner, Jim mora, Jim haslett...there's been a bunch of coaches that have won games...won play off games...
But the stats their teams put up and the wins they got didn't mean that their shortcomings would be ignored.
I don't care for kubiak for a few reasons. But I'm not going to say he absolutely can't win a superbowl. He's still kind of young as a head coach. Hopefully he's learning.
But what he's done so far is not some monster resume to the point where he's above criticism and built so much goodwill that it's blasphemy to talk about him maybe not being good enough.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Can we stay in reality world? Green had Culpepper for a season and a half and was fired. Prior to Culpepper being drafted they were 15-1 and in the playoffs three years in a row. Heck even if you want to go back 8 years prior to Culpepper, when Green got hired they were an 8-8 team who had been to the playoffs 3 of the last 5 years. Bad comparison.
Oh and by the way prior to getting his knee obliterated Culpepper was considered for league MVP so I mean if that is your way of trying to put Schaub into a mediocre QB conversation, I am just going to say not a very good argument. Culpepper was in the elite conversation until that injury.
Looks like you completely missed the point which is nothing new.
My point is about their resumes/accomplishments and how they are thought of. Kubiak has not done as much as green has and green is not thought of as some great coach.
Two winning seasons and two first round play off victories does not put kubiak above criticism. Schaub putting up nice numbers does not mean that he's above criticism. And you know who else has had a bunch of injuries? Schaub. You know who had a pretty bad injury the year before? Schaub.
You can throw out all these baby accomplishments of Schaub and kubiak, but there have been people that have accomplished more and thought less of. Comparatively speaking they've not really done much. So it's ridiculous to act like OMG, I can't believe you'd speak negatively against kubiak or Schaub. They've not earned that in the slightest.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
The whole point of those things (winning playoff games in back to back seasons, etc.) isn't that it means that Kubiak is the next Vince Lombardi, it's that we're in a pretty good position. We've got a good team, a team that COULD continue to win for several years to come. Smithiakillips has to be smart about re-loading and re-tooling and this team could develop into a dynasty.
The thing about being a winning team that's a strong contender for the Super Bowl is enjoying it. The way people are moaning and whining around here makes it sound like we've finished 9-7 the past two years and JUST missed the playoffs.
I don't think some people here are dealing with success very well. And although we haven't won a SB or appeared in a conference championship, yet, this team HAS been successful the past two years.
That's a matter of perspective PN.
I am not saying that this team is about to take of like a rocketship or sink in the ocean like a boulder.
What I'm saying is that you can't really blame people if they don't believe one or the other. There have been some positive things that have happened and there have been some negative aspects that should be weighed in as well.
That was my point about Kubiak (nor schaub for that matter) having completed their story. None of us "know" what's coming next....Yeah we could do great things...there's also reason to believe we could fail as well...
We can only speculate based on what we see and observe whether it be stone cold stats....Or just the feeling you get watching the team operate. All I'm saying is that what the team has accomplished is not something that should be considered blasphemy if you don't believe in the current regime/quaterback/gm/owner/defensive coordinator ect....
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Whoa..... didn't know he was having back issues?
I feel bad for dogging him so much.
I feel bad for dogging him so much.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Don't be surprised if he is released by the Titans after being thoroughly "debriefed" re. Schaub's and Kubiak's tendencies/secrets. A slot receiver is one of the worse positions to play if you have had lumbar disc problems or are recovering from disc surgery........minimally invasive or not.
I don't know that we kept him too long. We paid him too much & ignored upgrading the position too long. He'd be a fine #3/Slot flex TE type receiver.
When they played with the Colts, it looked (to me) like Dallas Clark & Brandon Stokely were practically interchangeable. If Stokely was unavailable, they'd split Clarke out more often. If Clarke wasn't able to play, Stokely would slide in more often.
That's the way I thought we should use Walter & OD. OD isn't worth a crap for run blocking & Walter can't stretch the field (unlike Stokley)...
But if we weren't asking him to step up when Andre is out of the game, we need another #2.