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Kendall Wright's Pro day

Mr teX said:
Just b/c you don't see it on tape doesn't mean that it won't project to be a problem. Sometimes lack of seeing something on tape actually does project to it becoming a problem in the NFL.

It's no different than watching tape on a qb who operates 95% out of the shotgun. The lack of seeing more of him coming from under center can & has been a decent indicator of whether or not he can become a solid NFL starting qb b/c he'll likely be doing more of that in the NFL.

Tape is only as good as the competition the player is playing against & the variety the player sees & plays.
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I just don't see how one can definitely state that Wright not be able to play on the outside due to his inability to beat press coverage if there is no tape to support the claim. It is a valid argument but a given no.
 
Here's some notes against Iowa St. , which ranked 73 in pass defense;
Wright caught 8 balls for 69 yards (with long of 20.)

The best CB was Leonard Johnson, ranked as a third rounder by CBS Sports.
Johnson is 5-10, 196 lbs. Jersey number 23.

Iowa State Pro Day: Johnson was timed at 4.56 and 4.52 according to
one scout on hand for the workout.
(He ran a 4.65 at the combine).

Wright's 15 yd TD catch was against a zone, where the defense was so bad
they left him wide open. (Around the 12' mark in this vid). It was a good post-corner route by Wright though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxLUpImxcg

(BTW, somebody tells me what RG III was doing around the 11:50 mark in
the vid, LOL!)


Around the 22:01 mark, the RCB played man against Wright and came off
his poor attempt at blocking to help stop RG III on a run toward the
side line.

Around the 23:32 mark, Johnson was on Wright.
RG III didn't like what he saw and took off on a run to nowhere.

If you notice, Johnson was simply playing an outside receiver; he
didn't follow Wright around.

In this vid here, you see #5 Jeremy Reeves, a Jr, playing man against
Wright on a couple of occasions. This guy is ranked the 89 (out of
91) CB in the 2013 class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCFvEu3j1aU&feature=related

There were a few quick swing passes; I would have to go back and review the game to see all of his catches but I'm not sure if I have the time.
 
76Texan said:
Here's some notes against Iowa St. , which ranked 73 in pass defense;
Wright caught 8 balls for 69 yards (with long of 20.)

The best CB was Leonard Johnson, ranked as a third rounder by CBS Sports.
Johnson is 5-10, 196 lbs. Jersey number 23.

Iowa State Pro Day: Johnson was timed at 4.56 and 4.52 according to
one scout on hand for the workout.
(He ran a 4.65 at the combine).

Wright's 15 yd TD catch was against a zone, where the defense was so bad
they left him wide open. (Around the 12' mark in this vid). It was a good post-corner route by Wright though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxLUpImxcg

(BTW, somebody tells me what RG III was doing around the 11:50 mark in
the vid, LOL!)


Around the 22:01 mark, the RCB played man against Wright and came off
his poor attempt at blocking to help stop RG III on a run toward the
side line.

Around the 23:32 mark, Johnson was on Wright.
RG III didn't like what he saw and took off on a run to nowhere.

If you notice, Johnson was simply playing an outside receiver; he
didn't follow Wright around.

In this vid here, you see #5 Jeremy Reeves, a Jr, playing man against
Wright on a couple of occasions. This guy is ranked the 89 (out of
91) CB in the 2013 class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCFvEu3j1aU&feature=related

There were a few quick swing passes; I would have to go back and review the game to see all of his catches but I'm not sure if I have the time.
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Thanks, good observations. Please share when you find some more.
 
Vs. Oklahoma (ranked 79 in pass defense).

Jamell Fleming , jersey #32 is ranked as the #8 CB in this draft by
CBS. He's 5'11-206 lbs, with 4.53 speed and a pedestrian 34" vertical.
His numbers in the SS and 3-cone are very good, however: 3.97 and 6.71, respectively.

Jr Demontre Hurst jersey #6 is a fairly highly-rated prospect for the
2013 season (6th CB).

Soph Aaron Colvin (jersey #14) is one of the nickel backs.


Wright caught 8 passes for 208 yards and one TD.

I will pull up the game and fill in the missing parts when I have some time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6KG1eUf37w
 
First qtr

After a run, RG III went to Wright (right slot) for 80 yards.
The Sooners were playing zonel the safety (#30) read run and let
Wright run right past him.
The play was called back due to a hold.

EDIT:
Lewis was the LB lining up near Wright.; he never attempted anything except staying put in his zone.
The safety, inexplicably, was totally flat-footed.


On 2nd and 19 (not in the video), there was an incomplete pass to
Wright with a LB getting credit for a PD (Nelson,Corey).

The Sooners showed cover 2; however, they
switched to either cover 1 or cover 3 as the safety (#30) came down to
play the run. I'm not sure why the ball was wobbled (my monitor
screen on this PC is not very good). We can't see the coverage, but
it looks like the LCB Fleming (#32) played off the LOS in cover 3 and
gave Wright a lot of room.

EDIT:
The ball was batted down at the LOS by #7 LOLB_Nelson.
Wright found a good spot here (he was the wide-out n the right), but we want to note that the second safety (actually this was #14 Colvin (the sophomore nickel/safety) was dropping back from cover 2 to the middle of the field and was very late.
This pass, if it was completed, would have been due to schematic problem in the D.
Wright still had to catch the ball; and the safety - even though a little late - could still put a hit on the receiver after the catch.

On 2nd and 4, the Bears were in a 2-TE, single back set.
Wright looked to be in the right slot (I think there's a wide-out
outside of him).
He was covered by #14 (Soph Aaron Colvin).
It looks like the Sooners were playing man with single deep safety.
Colvin seemed to expect help from the safety #30 Harris
We can't tell how Wright beat coverage on this play.
The pass was long, however.


EDIT:

When I brought up the game, I can see a couple more things on the replay.
1. The nickel back Colvin turned the wrong way.
2. The single deep safety also played poorly (the TE on the other side never released); he should have gotten back deep quickly.
Yes, Wright's speed is good, but he was operating from the slot in this instance, and Manning/McCain won't allow him to get free like that.

Second series,
(3rd and 17) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall (Lewis,Travis).
Bears in a balanced shot gun spread' the Sooners played cover two.
It was unclear whether it was man or zone as the LB Lewis was on
Wright (right slot) the whole time.
Wright got to the soft spot in the 2-deep zone, but RG III threw a
poor pass that should have been intercepted by Lewis.
Good job by Wright to play defender on this one.

Third series:
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 8
yards to the BU32 (Lewis,Travis;Wort,Tom - both are LBs.)
Wright was in left slot; Sooners in zone, cover 2.
Tony Jefferson #1, a Soph CB was the nickel back.
It was an easy catch as Wort played too far away to do anything.

Fourth series:
(2nd and 12) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 13
yards to the BU42, 1ST DOWN BU (Harris,Javon;Colvin,Aaron). Not in
video.
The two defenders making the tackle was soph nickel bacl Colvin and
the safety Harris.

EDIT:
This play actually begin at the very beginning of the second qtr.
Wright went into motion from right slot to left slot.
The safety #30 played 10 yards from the LOS and backpedaling, giving Wright enough room on a simple 10 yard hook route. He gained 3 more yards as the safety reacted back poorly.
 
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2nd qtr

14:15 (2nd and 6) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to
Wright, Kendall.
Bears were in 2TE set.
Sooners looked to be in cover 2, man under.
Wright was well-covered by the Jr Hurst.

5th series:
BAYLOR drive start at 07:50.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 55
yards to the OU28, 1ST DOWN BU (Nelson,Corey).
Sooners played cover 2 zone under.
Safety #30 missed the first tackle.
Sooners LBs were fooled by the PA fake.
Wright was uncovered and ran into the void in the middle.
He then got a good block downfield by #3.
DE/OLB Ronnell Lewis then missed another tackle.
The notes to be made here are:
1. Wright was in the slot,
2. Will they let Wright run free in the NFL (look at the replay)
The two outside receivers were covered by 2 CBs and a cover 2 safety.
The other safety #30 was too far away from Wright (the one that came
up and missed the first tackle.)
3. Will the safety miss tackle in the NFL.
4. Will the RCB got washed away by the blocker in the NFL.

...

No other action in this quarter.
 
3rd qtr
BAYLOR drive start at 13:13.
(3rd and 11) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 10
yards to the BU33 (Lewis,Travis).
Another cover 2, zone under.
Wright was in the right slot and was tackled by the LB T. Lewis.


BAYLOR drive start at 11:11.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 7
yards to the BU35 (Harris,Javon).
Wright (left slot) was left all by himself until the safety comes up
to make the tackle.

(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall
(Hurst,Demontre).
Wright (left wide-out) was well-covered by Hurst #6, playing off-man.

BAYLOR drive start at 07:28.
(2nd and 13) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 87
yards to the OU0, 1ST DOWN BU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 06:39.
87yd TD catch by Wright.

The Sooners were playing zone; the safety already came off Wright when
he saw the pass thrown to the right slot receiver who ran a crossing
route toward the post from the other side.
The pass was slightly high and was tipped by the LB Wort.
Wright was in the left slot and ran a deeper post route.

This was a lucky throw.
Good concentration by Wright but he didn't beat anybody.

BAYLOR drive start at 03:55.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall
(Fleming,Jamell).
Wright (top of the screen) was jammed and blanketed by the LCB Fleming.

(3rd and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 16
yards to the BU31, 1ST DOWN BU.
Wright went into motion into the right slot and ran to the empty spot
in cover 2.
The MLB came up to check RG III on the scramble.
Either a nickel back or another LB didn't stretch his zone to follow Wright.

EDIT:
It was the LB Lewis that didn't stretch his zone, but he wasn't the true problem.
One safety played way too deep and the other simply turned and ran in a different direction (on the other side of the field); he was interested in just helping the other two defenders on that side. Wright was "simply" not covered by anybody.
 
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4th Qtr

BAYLOR drive start at 14:10.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall.
Not shown in video.
Bad snap, Ball thrown away

BAYLOR drive start at 09:45.
2nd and 6) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall
(Colvin,Aaron), PENALTY BU substitution infraction 5 yards to the
BU24, NO PLAY.
Not shown in video.
Pressure, RG III threw another bad pass that two defenders fought each other for the ball.
A miss-interception right there.
Wright was the right wide-out; he was well-covered by #32 Flemming;
one of the two defenders that had the chance at the INT.

BAYLOR drive start at 00:51.
(2nd and 2) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 12
yards to the OU34, 1ST DOWN BU (Hurst,Demontre).
Garbage time.
The safety was way off Wright (right slot).
 
By the look of the two games I just mentioned (Iowa St. and Okl. - two teams with decent-fairly good CB), there are plenty reasons for concern about Wright's ability to play on the outside at the next level.

I want to also note that RG III still has a way to go to become that "great" NFL QB that most everybody is talking about.
 
Playoffs said:
Been pinging a few draft analysts & PFW to verify this. Can't believe there's not more chatter about it if true.
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Emailed Nawrocki.

He just confirmed that Wright only managed 4 bench press reps@225 lbs.
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"Work ethic is a concern. He’s in the third round on some NFL boards after the showing."

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Emailed Nawrocki.

He just confirmed that Wright only managed 4 bench press reps@225 lbs.
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"Work ethic is a concern. He’s in the third round on some NFL boards after the showing."

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But to be fair this is the same guy who came under critcism last year for his scathing review on Cam Newton & well, Newton balled out last year.
 
Playoffs said:
Emailed Nawrocki.

He just confirmed that Wright only managed 4 bench press reps@225 lbs.
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"Work ethic is a concern. He’s in the third round on some NFL boards after the showing."

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Would like to see a second source but if true that is just horrible. I saw Bubba Crosby in high school put up 225 more than that and he weighed less.
 
Mr teX said:
But to be fair this is the same guy who came under critcism last year for his scathing review on Cam Newton & well, Newton balled out last year.
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True, but the pro-Wright crowd will point to Mike Mayock drooling over Kendall. And Mayock was one (of many) who bashed the Texans for passing on the great Reggie Bush. Every draft guru misses.
 
Comparing him to Steve Smith is a bad comparison, he's much more like DeSean Jackson.

Smaller WR with great speed and elusive in the open field. Just as much a threat at PR as well. To me that's added value.

I think the bigger question looking at WR in the first is...how much longer the FO thinks AJ can be elite. If they're thinking 4 years or so then IMO you can look at a guy who can be an elite #2. If you're thinking less you have to think long term can this guy develop into at least a real good #1 at this spot?

Again JMO.
 
Mr teX said:
But to be fair this is the same guy who came under critcism last year for his scathing review on Cam Newton & well, Newton balled out last year.
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He didn't comment on Wrights ability.

He just pointed out that Wright only BP'ed 225 Lbs 4 times.

Knowing this give me Randle/Hill in the 1st. I'll pass on Wright. If he'there in the 2nd he would be under consideration. 4 BP's means this guys never touched a weight in his life. You've got to be able to beat press if you want to be able to be a WR1 in the pros.

I garuntee you that a WR1 will never be so weak he can only BP 4 times. That's pathetic for a world class athlete. (Which Wright is.)
 
I have no -- zero -- doubt that Wright is capable of 10/12 reps @225 in short order.

My issue is with his work ethic. This may be the one & only chance he gets in his lifetime to make bank, to secure his future. And he doesn't put what most likely amounts to a month of work into improving his bench. That speaks volumes to me.

Now maybe he joins the Texans and witnesses how hard AJ works in the gym and how hard AJ practices each day -- maybe the light bulb goes off in his head and he changes his work ethic. But it's a risk, now. Not one I'm willing to take with my 1st round pick.

If we've learned one thing from Wade, it's that high effort/high motor guys are who you should target -- at least with your "expensive" picks.
 
I have watched Wright play and could care less how many 225s he lifted. The kid plays ball.Amazing how many mocks had him top 15 until he ran in combine. Didn't seem to be a concern about his work ethic then cause of his film.
 
JoshNorris Josh Norris
@AsleepT He separates from every spot & every lvl of field. Not worried about work ethic. Only rare occasions do players not workout in NFL

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@JoshNorris Wright managed only 4 reps benching 225 lbs at his pro day. What does that say about his work ethic?
 
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Lance Zierlein ‏ @LanceZierlein Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
League source informing me to "leave Kendall Wright out of 1st in your next mock". Not sure I'll do that, but interesting nonetheless.
 
I have watched every game kendall wright played at Baylor and I have no doubt that he will be an impact player.

Pros
-Elite Acceleration and Agility
-Excellent Leaper and Speed
-Elite run after the catch ability
-Great deep ball skills
-Leader, wonderful person. Great work ethic(I know first hand)
-Fearless over the middle
-Set up double moves great
-Durable

Cons
-Size, both height and strength below average
-Will drop some easy passes but has gotten much better
-Blocking, will not be a good blocker at next level.

I love this pick for the Texans because he will improve the deep passing game, Punt return and give the Texan home run potential on short passes. A lot of receivers taken in the first two rounds will be bust this year but he will not be.
 
Playoffs said:
I have no -- zero -- doubt that Wright is capable of 10/12 reps @225 in short order.

My issue is with his work ethic. This may be the one & only chance he gets in his lifetime to make bank, to secure his future. And he doesn't put what most likely amounts to a month of work into improving his bench. That speaks volumes to me.

Now maybe he joins the Texans and witnesses how hard AJ works in the gym and how hard AJ practices each day -- maybe the light bulb goes off in his head and he changes his work ethic. But it's a risk, now. Not one I'm willing to take with my 1st round pick.

If we've learned one thing from Wade, it's that high effort/high motor guys are who you should target -- at least with your "expensive" picks.
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Oh yeah? how much of that work ethic rubbed off on Ja-hoby Jones? Dude still has suspect hands & is a trash route runner.
 
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JoshNorris Josh Norris
@AsleepT He separates from every spot & every lvl of field. Not worried about work ethic. Only rare occasions do players not workout in NFL

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@JoshNorris Wright managed only 4 reps benching 225 lbs at his pro day. What does that say about his work ethic?
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People questioning his work ethic are idiots.. I've seen this kids work ethic first hand and its not to be questioned. Him and RGIII set the tone everyday
 
How many reps would it take to make you comfortable? To me its a non issue. He can readily get stronger but not much faster. Hes got the wheels already. Nobodys going to draft him cause they want an overly physical wide out. His key attribute is speed. Dont try to make him a linemen.
 
If I can get a 6'6" 245 TE who has good hands & runs good routes @ 4.45 speed who can play WR, I will go that way.
 
Wow. Good luck. And why draft that guy when you have casey. Funny how people saw new englands success with that and think kubiak should revamp his offense.
 
powda said:
Wow. Good luck. And why draft that guy when you have casey. Funny how people saw new englands success with that and think kubiak should revamp his offense.
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Funny how you can read 2-3 sentences and determine I want to re-vamp the O. Seems like your projecting your thinking for mine. If you have read, many of the posts about Coby Fleener are about how the guy can play WR or TE. Few his size can do both. Others have posted that Casey is not Fleener. Casey is a decent player who is not a starting TE, full back or anything else for that matter. He might develop but that is to be determined. I doubt few on this board think Texans will not get a FB before game one.
 
You can sale it but i wont buy. Fleener in the 2nd round is good value and i can accept it. Fleener in the first? Call 911 cause im going to jump.
 
powda said:
You can sale it but i wont buy. Fleener in the 2nd round is good value and i can accept it. Fleener in the first? Call 911 cause im going to jump.
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Luck in the second is a good value also but like Fleener will not be there at #26. 911 was busy so I called waste management to scoop you up. That ok? :thisbig:
 
I tried to rep you for that cause waste managment refrences always deserve rep lol
 
Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Kendall Wright registered 16% body fat at the Combine, "one of the highest percentages for a WR in the past decade."
 
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Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Kendall Wright registered 16% body fat at the Combine, "one of the highest percentages for a WR in the past decade."
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You could make a case that once Wright enters a NFL training program, he can shed that fat and become quicker. I can see that happening. But at the same time, Wright will be even smaller than he currently is. His main issue as an NFL receiver will be getting off press coverage. Which is why Wright is a better fit as a NFL slot receiver, and therefore not good value as a 1st round pick. He compares to a Titus Young, Emmanual Sanders, or a Eddie Royal - all 2nd or 3rd round picks.
 
The Eye in the Sky Doesn't Lie--Kendall Wright

...Profootballweekly also stated that Wright’s body fat percentage was at 16 (presumably at the Combine), so I asked the wide receiver about that late last week.

“One of the teams that I visited this week and gave me a physical, tested my body fat and said I had 8.4 percent,” Wright said...

According to several NFL executives Thesidelineview.com spoke to in recent weeks, Wright is widely expected to go off the board somewhere within the first round. Regardless of the smoke screens that NFL teams are putting out this week, the bottom line is that teams go back to the film before they make their draft decisions. This time of year NFL evaluators frequently say "the eye in the sky doesn't lie" when asked if a college player will make a good pro, and most NFL personnel executives that I've talked to say Kendall Wright's film is as good if not better than any receiver in this draft.

read more: http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/eye-sky-doesnt-lie-kendall-wright
 
You can't believe anything you read now, its all smokescreens. Wright has great film, the competition might be suspect and his size and strength as well, but I think he is at least NFL ready from the point that he can be put in the slot on day 1 and give us big play potential and a deep threat that we are missing. Depending on who is available of course I don't think he is a bad pick. Him or Hill is tough because one guy has a much higher ceiling but will probably need some development, long run vs short run.
 
powda said:
How many reps would it take to make you comfortable? To me its a non issue. He can readily get stronger but not much faster. Hes got the wheels already. Nobodys going to draft him cause they want an overly physical wide out. His key attribute is speed. Dont try to make him a linemen.
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Nothing about him makes me feel good about a first round pick... If RG3 was not his QB he would not be in consideration. Lets not let him ride coat tails all the way into Reliant.

I'm always shocked how much politics and media buzz play into NFL GM draft boards... it really is quite bizarre
 
texasam82 said:
If RG3 was not his QB he would not be in consideration. Lets not let him ride coat tails all the way into Reliant.
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And if Fleener didnt have Luck would we be disussing him? Problem with that thought process is your critical of a prospect because hes not the only talented (draftable) player on his team. That would limit about 80% of the draft prospects every year.

Isolate the player and judge him on his own merit.

I have some doubts with wright as a #2 wr but think he would be an outstanding slot reciever.
 
Thanks for this thread because the pick scared me when I first saw it. Your opinions have settled my feelings about Wright. :)
 
texasam82 said:
Nothing about him makes me feel good about a first round pick... If RG3 was not his QB he would not be in consideration. Lets not let him ride coat tails all the way into Reliant.

I'm always shocked how much politics and media buzz play into NFL GM draft boards... it really is quite bizarre
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This doesn't make any sense. You seem to be saying a not so good passing QB & Wright's stats would not be so good. Wow! He had to get open, catch the ball, bring it in against bigger defenders and then do something with it and he did better than anyone except Jordan White. In Reliant stadium he would have been matched with a pretty good passing QB. Talk about bizarre.
 
Lucky said:
He bench-pressed 225 pounds only four times...
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Maybe that's not such a problem after all ... ?

But perhaps the most intriguing comment from [Chris] Carter came at the end of the interview, when he explained why receiver Randy Moss was vulnerable during his rookie season. Despite having the most dramatic impact on the game of any first-year player since Gale Sayers, Carter said that Moss couldn’t bench-press 225 pounds a single time when he showed up for work in Minnesota.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/09/carter-keeps-talking-about-bounties/
 
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