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Kareem Jackson - If you read this forum

And other 'Bama players? I know you guys have a lot of them (KJ, Ryans, Caldwell, Anderson)


From a scale 1 to 10, rank the players overall. 1 = worst, 10 = best.


EDIT: Sorry I didn't see that Jackson thread. My bad guys. My first post and I mess it up. :lol:
 
He looked pretty bad. Always slipping and falling, always behind the receiver. He gave up at least 1 big play per game.
 
RollTide23 said:
Just out of curiosity. I didn't get to watch many Texan's games. (However, I pull for you guys all the time because of Antoine Caldwell, DeMeco Ryans, Mark Anderson and Kareem Jackson.)

I know that the Texan's secondary was horrible and very young. What is your overall opinions on him. Scale 1 - 10 what would you rank him ? 1 = worst, 10 = best.
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Was supposedly the most "NFL ready" per our Front Office. I don't think he was as bad as many make him out to be, but he did have a rough year. Was up and down. Would have a great read, jump the route and bat the ball down - then the next play he would get beat deep. I think a lot of what hurt us was the lack of coverage we had over the top of our CBs.

I think our expectations were high. I think he's a good solid CB and will improve. I don't see him ever being a Darrelle Revis type, but I do think we'll see continued improvement and he'll be a good solid CB for us. A cog in our defense that makes it great but not the superstar.
 
I'd much rather a guy look like a bust in his first year and have him develope into something special than have a guy look like a beast early and bust out (again, Amobi)
 
Personally, I thought it was a stretch to take him that high. However, I do think he was one of the best CBs in the draft. He was a lock down CB @ 'Bama for the most part.


What do you guys think of Caldwell, Mark Anderson and DeMeco Ryans ?


I figure you guys absolutely love DeMeco.
 
He was terrible through the first half of the season. Towards the end he didn't get burned as much but he wasn't good either. Luckily he had Glover Quinn and his inadequacies to make people ignore him for a bit. But he better have a great sophomore season otherwise he's going bye bye.
 
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I couldn't find an adequate picture that wasn't steaming and offensie, so I'll just say it was terrible. As far as expectations, that is the determining factor in whether your year was good or bad. If a UDFA had come in and played like KJ the first few games, he would have been benched and never seen the field again. Or, if you prefer, a 3rd rounder from 2007 that couldn't get on the field no matter how bad our CBs were, when he was clearly healthy enough to fly downfield on special teams. When you're taken in the first round and touted as being the "most NFL ready" of all the CBs in the draft, you damn well better hold your own. CBs get beat, sure. There's a learning curve at the position that's kind of steep (which is why "NFL ready" would be good). But KJ's poor play far exceeded any of those excuses. If Smithiak had done what any smart regime had done and left themselves an out of any kind, KJ would have had drastically reduced playing time very early on, or he wouldn't have been named the starter.

I don't think KJ will be this awful forever, but I do think the position he was put in this year may hurt him long term. It's a lost year, essentially. I don't know what he learned OTJ, but his playing time went down as the year went by, and I have no faith that the DB coach taught him much of anything that will prove to be useful as his career progresses. I also just don't think he was worth being picked where he was picked nor worth being saddled with the expectations he was saddled with.
 
Obviously KJ = 4 as the worst of the bunch & Demeco pre injury = 1 as the best.

I personally would put Caldwell @ 3...Considering where he was drafted i believe he's underachieving b/c he can't even beat out Mike Briesel...who wasn't even drafted if i recall. so......

& Anderson, i'm guessing you're talking about mark anderson (didn't know he went to alabama), He can be 2 just based on the fact that he's done some positive things & i didn't see much negative...at least not with for the little time he's been here.
 
Like I said, Sorry about making an redundant thread. I tried to change the topic but the the topic title didn't change.


I didn't know if Kareem played bad due to not having help or etc. So I was asking you guys in general.


I know DeMeco had a season ending injury. Which is really a bummer. Overall do you guys think he is your best defensive player? What about MA and Antoine Caldwell.

Is Caldwell a great OL, IYO ?
 
Mr teX said:
Obviously KJ = 4 as the worst of the bunch & Demeco pre injury = 1 as the best.

I personally would put Caldwell @ 3...Considering where he was drafted i believe he's underachieving b/c he can't even beat out Mike Briesel...who wasn't even drafted if i recall. so......

& Anderson, i'm guessing you're talking about mark anderson (didn't know he went to alabama), He can be 2 just based on the fact that he's done some positive things & i didn't see much negative...at least not with for the little time he's been here.
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Thanks, Mr teX.
 
Based on this year?

Kareem J = 1. I would give a zero, but that is not fair to the number zero.

Ryans = 5 (avg) before his injury. He was having by far his worst yr

Anderson = 7 - Provided the best pass rush in the second half of the season

Caldwell = 6 - Line play is tough to judge for a fan, but the times I was focused on him, he did pretty well, but that is tempered with him being benched and switched with Briesel, and I think the coaches mentioned "consistency"

Conclusion - KJ sucks balls. You can have him back. I'll buy the plane ticket. The rest can play.
 
RollTide23 said:
Like I said, Sorry about making an redundant thread. I tried to change the topic but the the topic title didn't change.


I didn't know if Kareem played bad due to not having help or etc. So I was asking you guys in general.


I know DeMeco had a season ending injury. Which is really a bummer. Overall do you guys think he is your best defensive player? What about MA and Antoine Caldwell.

Is Caldwell a great OL, IYO ?
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Mark Anderson has been a great addition as they've kept him focused on what he does best, which is rush the passer. I don't think he'll ever be an every-down DE, but that's OK.

Caldwell is kind of hard to tell. He hasn't been able to really beat out Brisiel. I don't know how much of that is Kubiak favoring guys (which he clearly does), how much of it is Brisiel exceeding expectations, and how much of it is Caldwell not performing as well as I'd hoped. I also think Caldwell would make a better prototypical center than a zone blocking guard, so there might be a bit of that as well. In the end, though, Caldwell is an integral part of an OL that produced the NFL rushing leader this year and protected Schaub pretty handily at times when you'd think the other team could pin their ears back and go after the QB.

I'm a fan of Caldwell, but I want to see him lock down that job for the next decade.
 
RollTide23 said:
Like I said, Sorry about making an redundant thread. I tried to change the topic but the the topic title didn't change.


I didn't know if Kareem played bad due to not having help or etc. So I was asking you guys in general.


I know DeMeco had a season ending injury. Which is really a bummer. Overall do you guys think he is your best defensive player? What about MA and Antoine Caldwell.

Is Caldwell a great OL, IYO ?
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IMO, Meco's in a tie with Mario as being our best. However, he's definitely our most consistent defensive guy. We can always count on him to make the plays that present themselves to him.
 
Hang in there man, I think you're onto something. I don't think 'The NFL' aquired that many little red dots as quickly as you have. WINNER@!
 
FWIW, I saw all of our db's slipping and sliding all season. Jackson moreso than others. Did anyone else notice this or am I drinking kool aid?
The secondary play was so awful I can't even begin to assess why. Every conceivable coverage from every conceivable look was busted regularly. It's like oppossing teams went all Belichick and were stealing our signals. I didn't make a game this season, but did our defensive calls get intercepted and put over the loudspeakers? Did that wikileaks guy get a hold of them?
The secondary play I saw has to be a combination of bad play calling, bad coaching and bad play. There's just no way that any one of those, alone, could make that secondary suck as bad as it did.
 
He was put in a bad position by management.

He stunk up the joint. Looked like a lost rookie.
 
RollTide23 said:
Like I said, Sorry about making an redundant thread. I tried to change the topic but the the topic title didn't change.


I didn't know if Kareem played bad due to not having help or etc. So I was asking you guys in general.


I know DeMeco had a season ending injury. Which is really a bummer. Overall do you guys think he is your best defensive player? What about MA and Antoine Caldwell.

Is Caldwell a great OL, IYO ?
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KJ got burnt alot. It seems he doesn't have the speed to keep up with NFL receivers. Also, in bump & run, he had trouble jamming bigger receivers. Couple times, he fell trying to jam, thus leading to a big play. Hopefully he was just coached wrong and the new regime will straight things out.

DeMeco is great, we surely missed him when he got hurt. I didn't realize how much of a leader he was and how good of a "defensive QB" he is until he got hurt. Like someone else was saying, it did seem like he was having his worst season, but I'm not panicking. Can't wait to get him back on the field.

Mark Andersen was a nice gift. He shows great pass rush skills, but not much help on run support. It will be interesting how he'll fit in the team next season. They may give him a shot at OLB. He could start if Barwin doesn't come back in full health.

Caldwell was drafted to start either at Center or Guard, but has yet to fully take over the starting spot. Not sure if it's because of his play, or because Meyers & Briesel are playing well? As good as the run game was last year, I don't seem him starting again next season barring any injury.
 
Slow, lost and on your back may be good enough in college, but the submissive act does not play well in the NFL. Or in other words, he is the least ready player, outside of David Carr, I have seen in a Texans starting line up.

I just do not see how he will be able to bridge the gap with his skill set.
 
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