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Kamari Lassiter

Yes, if he sucks they'll be plenty of time to ***** about it later.

For now many of us are going to enjoy the short time during the football cycle where optimism reigns supreme 😁

Pro bowlers and future stars everywhere
Beats the hell out of everyone spending all offseason bitching about how terrible the team is going to be and how cheap the owner is
 
Yes, if he sucks they'll be plenty of time to ***** about it later.

For now many of us are going to enjoy the short time during the football cycle where optimism reigns supreme 😁

Pro bowlers and future stars everywhere
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think about this time last year people were talking about some guy named Will Anderson? Again correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he go to the pro bowl?

Future stars Stroud, Dell and Nico Collins were not yet stars.
 
Beats the hell out of everyone spending all offseason bitching about how terrible the team is going to be and how cheap the owner is
Tue, and all it took was getting a new owner.

Not Texans Worthy is a thing of the past.
 
I think he's saying that tongue in cheek because McClain's opinion isn't all that highly respected.
Expecting the exact opposite of a McClain prediction improves your viewing experience.

Still have high hopes for Lassiter, though :‐)
 
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think about this time last year people were talking about some guy named Will Anderson? Again correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he go to the pro bowl?

Future stars Stroud, Dell and Nico Collins were not yet stars.
Who cares about pro bowls besides agents. That being an honor is largely a thing of the past. WAJ DID, however, win DROY.
 
Who cares about pro bowls besides agents. That being an honor is largely a thing of the past. WAJ DID, however, win DROY.
I understand your sentiment, however, several people still use Pro Bowl as a marker of success. If it was not, I don't think teams would be adding it as a contract incentive.
 
The Pro Bowl itself is useless. Being selected for the Pro Bowl though is a sign you are at the top of your game.
Definitely. As I said teams still include it for incentive bonus so it has value.
I cannot remember the last Pro Bowl I watched.
 
Something I think that helped McClain was in his era there was nothing much to compete with as a reporter. Today, there are many ways to research and get information to the fans of teams. He was right place at right time.
That and he lived for yrs off of his friendships with Buschbaum/Brocato. When they died he became more of a movie critic than a sportswriter. One things for sure, Pancakes loves him some Pancakes.
 
He won’t win the DROY this season or any other future season but I’ll bet he’d be the first to say he wants to go to the Pro Bowl every season every year.
Yup. It’s extra money too. They get paid $44k if they are on the losing team… $88k if they win. That’s -still- real money. Ain’t nobody turning that down every year.
 
The Pro Bowl itself is useless. Being selected for the Pro Bowl though is a sign you are at the top of your game.
Or it's a sign that you're a well known name.

Antoine Winfield Jr. was the best safety in the NFL and just got paid like it but wasn't even selected last year.

I bet after getting the headlines for the contract he's selected next year even if he doesn't play as well.
 
So basically just like he was in college.

People really do massively overrate 40 times.
Excited to see how Lassiter fits. It sounds like DeMeco is giving him every opportunity to start his career on the outside. I like that, let him ā€œproveā€ he can’t be your starting outside CB2 before pigeon-holing him as nickel only.

Get the best players in the secondary on the field together and good things will happen. If that means Pitre is playing nickel and Lassiter is outside CB then lets rock and roll!
 
Excited to see how Lassiter fits. It sounds like DeMeco is giving him every opportunity to start his career on the outside. I like that, let him ā€œproveā€ he can’t be your starting outside CB2 before pigeon-holing him as nickel only.

Get the best players in the secondary on the field together and good things will happen. If that means Pitre is playing nickel and Lassiter is outside CB then lets rock and roll!
I really like this as well and think it should always be the method. A guy should always show you he can't do something before you simply put him somewhere else especially if he succeeded there in college. College and NFL can be very different but body types and combine numbers also shouldn't dictate how you operate. I feel like Tennessee somewhat failed at that when they didn't let Peter Skoronski try and win the LT job and instead smooshed him into LG because of his shorter arms. Rashawn Slater is one of the top LTs in the game with similar length arms, so it's clearly doable and Skoronski was great at it in college. That said Tennessee being somewhat foolish only benefits us.
 
So basically just like he was in college.

People really do massively overrate 40 times.
I do not think people massively overrate 40 times, but rather just don't evaluate certain players correctly. Speed is always important but some players can make up for slower speeds several ways.
Football IQ: knowing how play will develop or where ball is going.

Eyes in offensive backfield on QB

Hip swivel; knee bend; foot slide; back pedal; foot dig allowing change of direction, etc.

Also 40 time is after build up acceleration not first few steps in which catch up speed is illuminated.
 
There's a few positions where 40 times are relevant simply because sprinting speed is
relevant and very important to a few positions.
I think the issue is that 40 times are now trained for heavily and what it improves is your 40 time but not your actual sprinting ability on the field. There's a reason people say "football fast" because your 40 time doesn't necessarily relate to your actual sprinting ability. People aren't running like they do when they run a forty and they're very rarely running 40 yards in a straight line. 20 yard shuttle is often a better indicator because for one thing the game is often played in 20 yard increments (or less) but it's not the thing people like to quote.

There's a lot of guys with faster 40 times than Kamari but can't run past him? Why is that? Why should I then care about his 40 time?
 
I do not think people massively overrate 40 times, but rather just don't evaluate certain players correctly. Speed is always important but some players can make up for slower speeds several ways.
Football IQ: knowing how play will develop or where ball is going.

Eyes in offensive backfield on QB

Hip swivel; knee bend; foot slide; back pedal; foot dig allowing change of direction, etc.

Also 40 time is after build up acceleration not first few steps in which catch up speed is illuminated.
People definitely overrate 40 times.

If people cared about relevant speed metrics they'd quote shuttle times - except they don't.

It's so incredibly rare someone runs a straight 40 yard line in a football game other than maybe punt coverage because they won't even be doing that on kickoffs anymore.
 
I think the issue is that 40 times are now trained for heavily and what it improves is your 40 time but not your actual sprinting ability on the field. There's a reason people say "football fast" because your 40 time doesn't necessarily relate to your actual sprinting ability. People aren't running like they do when they run a forty and they're very rarely running 40 yards in a straight line. 20 yard shuttle is often a better indicator because for one thing the game is often played in 20 yard increments (or less) but it's not the thing people like to quote.

There's a lot of guys with faster 40 times than Kamari but can't run past him? Why is that? Why should I then care about his 40 time?
It's a waste of time and really kind of silly to time 340 lb offensive lineman over 40 yards just
as there's not too much to be gained by testing WRs on the # of their 225 lb Bench reps.
But if you don't think sprinting speed is important in some situations and for some positions maybe you should ask a pretty successful HC-GM combo named Reid&Veech why they used their 2024 1st round pick on some UT player named Xavior.
 
It's a waste of time and really kind of silly to time 340 lb offensive lineman over 40 yards just
as there's not too much to be gained by testing WRs on the # of their 225 lb Bench reps.
But if you don't think sprinting speed is important in some situations and for some positions maybe you should ask a pretty successful HC-GM combo named Reid&Veech why they used their 2024 1st round pick on some UT player named Xavior.
The 40 is important, but I guy like Kwami can get away with running a 4.6 because he's a smart player and his really long arms for the position helps him make up for the step slower than guys who run in the 4.4's. I'm really looking forward to seeing how he does outside, I thought for sure that he would be the nickle.
 
I do not think people massively overrate 40 times, but rather just don't evaluate certain players correctly. Speed is always important but some players can make up for slower speeds several ways.
Football IQ: knowing how play will develop or where ball is going.

Eyes in offensive backfield on QB

Hip swivel; knee bend; foot slide; back pedal; foot dig allowing change of direction, etc.

Also 40 time is after build up acceleration not first few steps in which catch up speed is illuminated.
Remember that WR named Jerry Rice? He ran a slow 40 at his combine. He turned out to be a pretty OK WR.
 
Remember that WR named Jerry Rice? He ran a slow 40 at his combine. He turned out to be a pretty OK WR.
Actually I wonder if whatever 40 times they had at the time on Rice were reliable, accurate ?
For example the 40 times on Richard Sherman, an elite or near elite corner, were notoriouly very mediorce but probably not representitive of his intrinsic footspeed since Sherman has a 10.7 100 meter time to his credit which is just plain fast.
 
The 40 is important, but I guy like Kwami can get away with running a 4.6 because he's a smart player and his really long arms for the position helps him make up for the step slower than guys who run in the 4.4's. I'm really looking forward to seeing how he does outside, I thought for sure that he would be the nickle.
So Steel your theory is that in some cases, like perhaps with CBs, long arm length can offset the
disadvantage of less than superior sprinting speed ?
My friend you are indeed an advanced thinker, because that never even occurred to me.
 
You should not make decisions based on an outlier like Jerry Rice or Tom
Brady. Those remind me of Junior High when you had one or two that spoil the curve for the rest of us dummies.
Maybe they aren't as much outliers as they are bad at taking tests... :kitten:
 
So Steel your theory is that in some cases, like perhaps with CBs, long arm length can offset the
disadvantage of less than superior sprinting speed ?
My friend you are indeed an advanced thinker, because that never even occurred to me.
Arm length is a valid detail in evaluating players as is verticals.

Example: 6'1" defensive lineman with a good vertical can deflect ball or distract QB more than a guy 6'3" with lesser measurements
 
All kidding aside, it appears he is a ā€œhitā€ from this draft. I figured he might be more of a nickel guy but he appears to be proving the doubters wrong. We shall see when the live bullets are in the chamber but all reports suggest playing outside and starting as a rookie isn’t too big for the kid. Love it.

That said, he can only go as far as his feet will take him. While he may play outside, it needs to be mostly zone, or man with help over the top. You can’t put him out there one on one and expect good results, especially when facing faster receivers. If healthy, Sting CAN do that, so there may be some mixed coverages being played. I’m not as sophisticated on that subject as some, but I feel it’s mostly zone on his side of the field.
 
All kidding aside, it appears he is a ā€œhitā€ from this draft. I figured he might be more of a nickel guy but he appears to be proving the doubters wrong. We shall see when the live bullets are in the chamber but all reports suggest playing outside and starting as a rookie isn’t too big for the kid. Love it.

That said, he can only go as far as his feet will take him. While he may play outside, it needs to be mostly zone, or man with help over the top. You can’t put him out there one on one and expect good results, especially when facing faster receivers. If healthy, Sting CAN do that, so there may be some mixed coverages being played. I’m not as sophisticated on that subject as some, but I feel it’s mostly zone on his side of the field.
What did he play in college? It appeared to me to be a lot of man. I'm far from an expert on coverages though. I suspect Lassiter has far better game speed/instincts than his combine 40 time shows. Preseason games should give us an idea.
 
What did he play in college? It appeared to me to be a lot of man. I'm far from an expert on coverages though. I suspect Lassiter has far better game speed/instincts than his combine 40 time shows. Preseason games should give us an idea.
The biggest athletic factor is that he led all CBs in shuttle and 3-cone. So while he doesn't have the top-gear (40-time), his ability to switch directions is elite. If you look at the route-tree the only route that takes advantage of pure speed is the go route...assuming the receiver is able to get off the line cleanly. All the other ins/outs/flag/etc. require a CB to change direction with the receiver.
 
The biggest athletic factor is that he led all CBs in shuttle and 3-cone. So while he doesn't have the top-gear (40-time), his ability to switch directions is elite. If you look at the route-tree the only route that takes advantage of pure speed is the go route...assuming the receiver is able to get off the line cleanly. All the other ins/outs/flag/etc. require a CB to change direction with the receiver.
If he's good at the line, where he can mess up timing or redirect receivers he doesn't need top end speed.
 
Actually I wonder if whatever 40 times they had at the time on Rice were reliable, accurate ?
For example the 40 times on Richard Sherman, an elite or near elite corner, were notoriouly very mediorce but probably not representitive of his intrinsic footspeed since Sherman has a 10.7 100 meter time to his credit which is just plain fast.
Sherman was also 6'4
 
The biggest athletic factor is that he led all CBs in shuttle and 3-cone. So while he doesn't have the top-gear (40-time), his ability to switch directions is elite. If you look at the route-tree the only route that takes advantage of pure speed is the go route...assuming the receiver is able to get off the line cleanly. All the other ins/outs/flag/etc. require a CB to change direction with the receiver.
Nah, those over routes require speed too because you're running away from the defender. If your foot speed isn't good, that over routes/dig is going to be a problem.
 
Nah, those over routes require speed too because you're running away from the defender. If your foot speed isn't good, that over routes/dig is going to be a problem.
From what I’ve heard about Bullocks size, range and speed won’t he be a tonic? I’m no football guru but Kamari won’t be on an island. There are also two sharks at DE that could hurry an under throw.
 
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