Justice on Rome Show!

[UGA]

Laying it down!!!

Stating the obvious, that we had negotiated soley with Bush until Thursday night. We had no plans on going any other way until they realized a deal with Bush would not be finalized until after the draft.

Cass had little to no input on the final decision.

We followed the how to blow it blueprint to the t

lol @ us

 

[Grid]

I really need to hurry up and complete my english degree. The Chronicle needs new writers..badly.

 

[TheRealJoker]

I cancelled my subscription years ago!!!

 

[UGA]

lol

this board never ceases to amaze me with its apologetic banter.

Justice is just stating the truth and it hurts.

we had 4 months to prepare for the draft, and up until 2 days before the draft we had ONE player pegged, and back peddled because we wanted our pick signed the day of.

what kind of boneheaded logic is that? their own actions are embarrasing. they are bassically saying we will choose a lesser option on financial means only.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Laying it down!!!

Stating the obvious, that we had negotiated soley with Bush until Thursday night. We had no plans on going any other way until they realized a deal with Bush would not be finalized until after the draft.

Cass had little to no input on the final decision.

Well then. hmmm. Bob McNair on 610 said the opposite. So somebody has the story incorrect. He said that we were close enough with either one to close the deal and that to get things finished we needed to concentrate on one or the other.

 

[BattleRedRaider]

lol

this board never ceases to amaze me with its apologetic banter.

Justice is just stating the truth and it hurts.

we had 4 months to prepare for the draft, and up until 2 days before the draft we had ONE player pegged, and back peddled because we wanted our pick signed the day of.

what kind of boneheaded logic is that? their own actions are embarrasing. they are bassically saying we will choose a lesser option on financial means only.

So why are you still talking about the draft? It ended yesterday.

 

[TexasJedi]

Well then. hmmm. Bob McNair on 610 said the opposite. So somebody has the story incorrect. He said that we were close enough with either one to close the deal and that to get things finished we needed to concentrate on one or the other.

I'll trust Mr. McNair over that flip flopper.

 

[axman40]

It's sad to say but the FO blew the handling of the #1 pick.First off to drive up the value of the by talking up prospects ie Bush,Wlliams, Young and Ferguson.Do not announce who you will be drafting before the draft!If you do this no one will be willing to trade with you.
I do not have a problem with the pick just in the way it was handled.

 

[UGA]

Well then. hmmm. Bob McNair on 610 said the opposite. So somebody has the story incorrect. He said that we were close enough with either one to close the deal and that to get things finished we needed to concentrate on one or the other.

They went into discussions with Williams on Thursday. They had been negotiating with Bush for months. Mcnair stated signability was a key concern prior to the draft, almost giving away that they were going away from Bush for that reason.

Face the facts, we let finances make this pick.

BTW, guys... now the Around The Horn guys are slamming us one by one.

We are the laughing stock of the football community.

 

[Double Barrel]

Well then. hmmm. Bob McNair on 610 said the opposite. So somebody has the story incorrect.

Obviously the fishwrap hack has more insight to the Texans than the team's owner...yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I hold the opinions of quite a few of our forum members with much higher regard than the flip/flap that comes from Chronicle writers. Those guys have agendas, while forum members just state it like they see it. I appreciate honesty over sell outs like Justice & McClain.

We are the laughing stock of the football community.

So....what else is "new".

 

[UGA]

Mcnair was unhappy Bush couldnt come to terms by draft day, and let it get personal.

Great front office we have here.

We are a joke.

 

[BradK10]

Can the Chronicle hire Michael Smith, the only "head" that understands the game of football?

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Mcnair was unhappy Bush couldnt come to terms by draft day, and let it get personal.

Great front office we have here.

We are a joke.

That is awful you feel that way. Maybe you could go say some nice things about another team for a while or is that not your method of operation?

You brought nothing here other than reporting on reporters, great stuff.

 

[ojthecat]

Mcnair was unhappy Bush couldnt come to terms by draft day, and let it get personal.

Great front office we have here.

We are a joke.

I wonder when Bush will sign with New Orleans? It was no secret that he was campaigning to go to New York. He also made coments about "getting used to loosing" if he comes to Houston. Now who is the Joke on us?

I dont' think so. Look at every Superbowl winning team (that is right I said every) and the all have at least one dominate pass rusher. Not so with running backs and quaterbacks.

This pick took "stones" and it ROCKS.

McNair made a great choice and if you are not able to see it now that's ok We will all still be here supporting our team!!!

It won't be long till we are winners!!!

 

[tsip]

Mcnair was unhappy Bush couldnt come to terms by draft day, and let it get personal.

Great front office we have here.

We are a joke.

you're still here? door won't open?...bye

 

[Errant Hothy]

lol

this board never ceases to amaze me with its apologetic banter.

Justice is just stating the truth and it hurts.

we had 4 months to prepare for the draft, and up until 2 days before the draft we had ONE player pegged, and back peddled because we wanted our pick signed the day of.

what kind of boneheaded logic is that? their own actions are embarrasing. they are bassically saying we will choose a lesser option on financial means only.

Really casue this:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=88233
say Justice does not a have a clue what he is talking about.

Go figure, the guy who buried the Astros, Justice, knows even less about football then he does baseball.

 

[UGA]

That is awful you feel that way. Maybe you could go say some nice things about another team for a while or is that not your method of operation?

You brought nothing here other than reporting on reporters, great stuff.

I also made a thread draft day that this was our best draft ever, and i firmly belive it. As a whole i love this draft. I also like Williams as a player.

But, we blew the first pick. The front office even knows they blew it. They did an about face on Bush two days out only because they werent going to have his contract finalized by draft day. I may be the only one who thinks thats absolutely absurd, and im prepared to take the heat on this homer board, but i dont think anything im saying is out of the box. The majority of the civilized world believes we made a bonehead move, and its not odd that this board just ignores it.

 

[Grid]

You may want to wait to say that it was a bad move until you see what Bush puts N.O. through.

 

[jerek]

lol

this board never ceases to amaze me with its apologetic banter.

Justice is just stating the truth and it hurts.

we had 4 months to prepare for the draft, and up until 2 days before the draft we had ONE player pegged, and back peddled because we wanted our pick signed the day of.

what kind of boneheaded logic is that? their own actions are embarrasing. they are bassically saying we will choose a lesser option on financial means only.

Of course, Richard Justice knows it all. Everything that the organization is saying, before and since ... that's all BS. Just like Richard Justice knew we were going to pick Mario Williams. He had the inside track on the "negotiations breakdown" then.

Richard Justice says controversial or stupid things because he's not good enough as a writer to make reality interesting. Talk about apologetic banter. Tell Uncle Richard we say hi.

 

[mexican_texan]

Mcnair was unhappy Bush couldnt come to terms by draft day, and let it get personal.

Great front office we have here.

We are a joke.

We don't need to be popular to win. As they say, the meek (geek) shall inherit the earth.

 

[dalemurphy]

I also made a thread draft day that this was our best draft ever, and i firmly belive it. As a whole i love this draft. I also like Williams as a player.

But, we blew the first pick. The front office even knows they blew it. They did an about face on Bush two days out only because they werent going to have his contract finalized by draft day. I may be the only one who thinks thats absolutely absurd, and im prepared to take the heat on this homer board, but i dont think anything im saying is out of the box. The majority of the civilized world believes we made a bonehead move, and its not odd that this board just ignores it.

What homer board? the people you are arguing with have often been very critical of this organization. Look, Casserly has been saying for weeks that they like Mario and may draft him. People just dismissed it. I think they wanted Mario the whole time but kept the Bush ball in the area hoping to field trade offers from Tennessee and NYJets. None came. That's interesting considering Bush is the NFL equivalent of Michael Jordan. If you recall, Bush's agent didn't understand why the Texans were dragging their feet 10 days ago in starting negotiations- it's because they didn't want him!

 

[Kaiser Toro]

I also made a thread draft day that this was our best draft ever, and i firmly belive it. As a whole i love this draft. I also like Williams as a player.

But, we blew the first pick. The front office even knows they blew it. They did an about face on Bush two days out only because they werent going to have his contract finalized by draft day. I may be the only one who thinks thats absolutely absurd, and im prepared to take the heat on this homer board, but i dont think anything im saying is out of the box. The majority of the civilized world believes we made a bonehead move, and its not odd that this board just ignores it.

So you are mad because McNair and staff got the guy they wanted by addressing a definite need? Mario Williams was #1 on 6-7 teams draft board, all of the USC players fell wher they were prjected, RBs just do not get picked with the #1, etc. There are plenty of red flags to dispute your and many reporters take on this situation.

 

[Rightnow]

The Chronicle sportswriters have one agenda. SELL NEWSPAPERS. It's why the paper exists, to make money. They aren't in it for a charity. I don't have a problem with them making money as I am a capatalist, but it factors into why they liked VY so much. They had a VY blog on the web page, VY articles almost everyday and liked Reggie Bush second for the same reason--VY and RB sells newspapers. They are ticked because writing about a DE isn't very exciting and won't increase circulation. Talking about Mario Williams won't get them on ESPN, Foxsports etc.

There are tens of thousands of UT alumni that would have read the Chronicle sports section during football season (and more) that will not be reading it now. That is the main reason why they liked VY and Reggie Bush, which is the same reason you will see John McClain in Tennessee a lot this year writing stories about VY. VY sells newspapers. If we had taken him, over his career, he will sell more newspapers, even if he doesn't do much, than if the Texans go to the Superbowl once.

John McClain will not forgive the Texans for this for a long time. He will go on 610 and write in the Chronicle about how well VY (and possibly Reggie Bush) is doing for years to come. If VY does great and the Texans don't he will write about it and tell everyone "I told you so." If VY flames out it will be because the Texans were too stupid and didn't pick him and he needed to play here. He is mad because he was about to be the number one reporter about an exciting QB in the NFL. Follow the money, and the money is ciculation.

 

[UGA]

So you are mad because McNair and staff got the guy they wanted by addressing a definite need?

Why did they start contract negotiations 2 days out of the draft with Williams?

Sure he fills a need, but they didnt care until Bush wasnt going to finalize the deal by Sat night.

Mario Williams was #1 on 6-7 teams draft board

I never said the dude was a bum.

We just had no intention on drafting him until Bush's contract got snagged up. Which is a poor description since its hard to argue that the negotiations were going to be an issue 2 days before the guy even gets drafted. The bulk of the contractwas allready worked out.

 

[trane]

When the Vince v. Bush debate began, my initial thought was that I preferred Vince simply because he wants to be here and bring a championship to his hometown whereas Bush just wanted to be the bragging rights that go along with being the #1 pick. I hated when he was asked what he knew about the city all he could say, "There is no state tax". Basically, Bush acted like he was beneath us and figured that that we were lucky to have him versus he was lucky to be here.

So basically the Texans had a choice: do you pick the more talented guy who doesn't really want to be here that you and you really don't need or the guy who is talented that can really help and wants to be here. In the end, I think the Texans offered Bush the same contract that they offered to Williams. Bush sneered at it and Williams jumped at it. I don't think the decision was about finances but about attittude.

 

[MrMeToo]

Justice did speak the truth. We don't need to be popular to win but we need to be good. Reggie Bush would have made us popular and really good.

 

[Grid]

Winning and popularity are not mutually exclusive. Winning makes you popular.. so you do what you think is best to win games.

Here is something to consider.. pretty much every year the top picks in the draft are chosen by the worst teams. Alot of the time..the team making that pick is one of those loser franchises that never gets any better. No matter how good or popular that player is that they get, it does NOT make them a popular team.

Before the Chargers started winning games and making the playoffs.. LT was still called the best RB in the league, but it was just in passing. People didnt care about the chargers, all they cared about was LT. And they really didnt even care that much about LT.. they would just say "yah, LT is the best back in the league.. but what are the redskins doing?"

Winning games makes you popular.. earns you respect.. gets you exposure. Williams is the guy we chose as the best prospect to get us more wins. Smart move. If everything pans out like we are hoping, we are gonna be getting alot more popular regardless of Bush not being on the roster.

 

[Señor Stan]

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=88233

Here is an article from an actual journalist. Justice might want to take some notes.

Quoted from the Sporting News

Since March, the Sporting News has been given inside access to the decision-making process that led to the Texans' selection of Williams. This is the story of how they arrived at what will be remembered as one of the most controversial choices in NFL draft history.

You'll have to click the link to read the rest. It is worth it. Sorry if its been posted elsewhere, but it is relevant to this thread.

 

[UGA]

In the end, I think the Texans offered Bush the same contract that they offered to Williams. Bush sneered at it and Williams jumped at it. I don't think the decision was about finances

?

You list a financial dispute and then say its not a financial issue!

The bottom line was they wanted their pick signed on day one. Williams jumped at the opportunity (of course, he never thought hed be picked first or get that type of money), Bush's camp agreed to bulk of the contract but their was still negotiations on the signing bonus.

This was a purely financial pick.

At 2-14 do we want our picks being made based on this type of issue?

 

[ojthecat]

?

You list a financial dispute and then say its not a financial issue!

The bottom line was they wanted their pick signed on day one. Williams jumped at the opportunity (of course, he never thought hed be picked first or get that type of money), Bush's camp agreed to bulk of the contract but their was still negotiations on the signing bonus.

This was a purely financial pick.

At 2-14 do we want our picks being made based on this type of issue?

DENIAL !!!!

 

[mexican_texan]

DENIAL !!!!

He has not made progress on the MW chart. If we don't do something before it's too late, he'll lose his mind and become a....a....a Tennessee Tita---I can't even think about it.

 

[TexanAddict]

Why did they start contract negotiations 2 days out of the draft with Williams?

"Dan Ferens, the chief negotiator, made offers to Segal and Ben Dogra, who represents Williams. Segal countered. Dogra didn't. Dogra thought his client was being used as leverage. Williams thought he was being used as leverage until Wednesday night, when Dogra became convinced he wasn't."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/3829918.html

Offers apparently had been made to both, Williams' agent seems to be the reason serious negotiations were slow in starting.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

We just had no intention on drafting him until Bush's contract got snagged up. Which is a poor description since its hard to argue that the negotiations were going to be an issue 2 days before the guy even gets drafted. The bulk of the contractwas allready worked out.

Please get more sources before you start regurgitating someone else's fiction.

 

[BattleRedGuy]

Mex _Tex

Nice Avatar!

 

[mexican_texan]

Mex _Tex

Nice Avatar!

Thanx.

 

[BattleRedRaider]

i am sicked and tired of hearing this repeated excuse for drafting williams over and over again....its like you guys are puppets for the texans front office....what makes you think mario williams is such a guaranteed success at his position and how he will certainly bring victories??? and dont tell me combine numbers either...you guys assume a 100% success for mario which is stupid

what a load of bull....all players have their risks but reggie bush was hands down the the most guaranteed player to produce highly on the next level and was a never before seen athlete....

Just like Ki-Jana Carter was the most guaranteed player.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

i am sicked and tired of hearing this repeated excuse for drafting williams over and over again....its like you guys are puppets for the texans front office....what makes you think mario williams is such a guaranteed success at his position and how he will certainly bring victories??? and dont tell me combine numbers either...you guys assume a 100% success for mario which is stupid

what a load of bull....all players have their risks but reggie bush was hands down the the most guaranteed player to produce highly on the next level and was a never before seen athlete....

There are no guarantees other than people bitching about Bush not being picked. New Orleans is five hours east on I-10. Have fun storming the castle.

 

[Double Barrel]

We just had no intention on drafting him until Bush's contract got snagged up.

How do you know that? You don't, and it's an opinion just like the rest of us possess.

The media sold us this Young/Bush debate, but we knew all along that was hogwash when we re-signed Carr. But the media kept beating that drum anyway. Reality did not matter.

And Bush is the Heisman winner, so they beat that drum, too.

But unles you're in the Texans FO, you can only speculate about their intentions.

Perhaps Bush was a tool all along. Maybe the riverboat gambler was trying to get NOLA to bite the hook, so we could get trade down value and Williams. Nobody offered anything substantial, and they had to make an offer to Bush just to save face with the public.

I don't think Kubiak was ever sold on Bush, to be honest. We don't need him, and Kubiak's experience has been one of making decent RBs great with a good system and solid o-line.

And I find it amusing that you think financial decisions are some kind of bad intention in the NFL. This is a business, which is why teams like Indy re-signed their DE while letting their star RB go to another team. Teams that make stupid business (financial) decisions are often ones that put up losing records, too.

 

[Grid]

i am sicked and tired of hearing this repeated excuse for drafting williams over and over again

You would prefer that we all cry and rant and rave? maybe go picket the stadium? Sorry that not everyone agrees that Williams was a bad pick. You people are acting like Williams was projected to go in the 2nd round or something.. he was the 2nd highest rated player in the draft. And he fits our needs very well. I can understand some people being upset, but not THIS upset. he wasnt a reach.

its like you guys are puppets for the texans front office

And its like you guys are working for the enemy. Some people happen to love this team.. and part of loving this team is having faith in them to improve. I know that I personally am not trying to convince anyone of anything.. if you wanna be a pessimist about the Williams pick..knock yourself out. Im not afraid to point it out when you say something incorrect, but you are free to think what ya want.

what makes you think mario williams is such a guaranteed success at his position and how he will certainly bring victories??? and dont tell me combine numbers either...you guys assume a 100% success for mario which is stupid

uh.. I said:

Williams is the guy we chose as the best prospect to get us more wins. Smart move. If everything pans out like we are hoping, we are gonna be getting alot more popular regardless of Bush not being on the roster.

Read that again and tell me where im saying Williams is a guaranteed success? Williams has just as much POTENTIAL to be a superstar in the NFL as Reggie Bush.. we wont know which one will live up to thier potential for another couple seasons.

what a load of bull....all players have their risks but reggie bush was hands down the the most guaranteed player to produce highly on the next level and was a never before seen athlete....

#1: Bush has huge potential.. id even go so far as to say that he is very likely to be a star in the league (at least he would be very likely if he hadnt gone to the Saints). But, just to throw some numbers out there.. if Bush is 70% likely to succeed..30% likely to fail.. then Williams is like 69%,31% :P.

#2: Someone pointed out in another thread that the Pats focused on keeping 2 players on thier roster this offseason.. Brady, and Richard Seymour.. thier DE. The Colts let Edge go so that they could re-sign Dwight Freeney. Many people feel that there are three REALLY IMPORTANT positions on a football team. Quarterback, Left Tackle, and Defensive End. A good DE is a VERY VALUABLE thing. Williams is worth the pick.

#3: Bush is a tremendous athlete.. not a once in a lifetime athlete. I mean looking at Bush, can you honestly say that he will be better than Gale Sayers? Barry Sanders? ya know what i mean? Hes a great athlete..a great prospect.. but there have been other great athletes and great prospects that did not compare to guys like Barry Sanders. Bush isnt a sure thing.. and a couple years from now people could be talking about how we dodged a bullet by getting Williams. Ya never know. All we know for sure is that we NEEDED a DE and Mario Williams can be compared to guys like Julius Peppers and Reggie White just as easily as Bush can be compared to Sayers/Sanders. We wont know who was worth the pick for a while.. so why not get a little bit excited about who we DID get, and wait till we see them play before we start talking about who made a mistake?

 

[TD143]

what a load of bull....all players have their risks but reggie bush was hands down the the most guaranteed player to produce highly on the next level and was a never before seen athlete....

I'm sure the Saints have available room for you to move there or at least become a fan!

 

[aj.]

Justice is just stating the truth and it hurts.

.

Justice is stating an opinion, one which is shared by many so it's a popular opinion and easy to lay out there. Makes himself look good by piling on. The truth of whether this was a good or bad decision lies somewhere in the future. Anything else is called speculation.

Justice went way over the line by calling McNair "stupid" and "incompetent" in his article on Saturday. I was as shocked over what happened as anyone but that's unprofessional and over the line. I would love to hear him say that to McNair's face but I know he won't.

 

[Specter]

They went into discussions with Williams on Thursday. They had been negotiating with Bush for months. Mcnair stated signability was a key concern prior to the draft, almost giving away that they were going away from Bush for that reason.

Face the facts, we let finances make this pick.

BTW, guys... now the Around The Horn guys are slamming us one by one.

We are the laughing stock of the football community.

Not exactly, Michael Smith predicted we would take Williams and he defended him to the death on the show right after the other 3 bashed us. He won tonight BTW, dont knwo how much that means but whatever.

 

[bdiddy]

Laying it down!!!

Stating the obvious, that we had negotiated soley with Bush until Thursday night. We had no plans on going any other way until they realized a deal with Bush would not be finalized until after the draft.

Cass had little to no input on the final decision.

We followed the how to blow it blueprint to the t

lol @ us

Casserly was on 610 this morning and stated that the team had reached an agreement in prinicple with both Bush and Williams with only a few "minor" details to workout. When Segal, Bush's agent, called him on Thursday Casserly told him he was suspending negotiations. This was before any further terms were discussed. The team decided they wanted Mario and did not have further contact with Bush's agent until Williams was signed.

 

[GP]

So you are mad because McNair and staff got the guy they wanted by addressing a definite need? Mario Williams was #1 on 6-7 teams draft board, all of the USC players fell wher they were prjected, RBs just do not get picked with the #1, etc. There are plenty of red flags to dispute your and many reporters take on this situation.

Add this to what Kaiser has said:

Kiper, Prisco, McClain, and Brandt have all rated us HIGH on our draft report card. In fact, we share the highest mark with only a select few who also had HIGH marks for their draft(s).

When in our entire franchise history have we been applauded like this?

Look, the emotions were high, and WILL be high on this topic for a few years to come. Two guys rated fairly equally, and one guy worked "with us" on the contract...while another guy continued to play a very immature money game.

McNair and our front office has a mandate: Get with OUR program or get out. We don't negotiate with hostage takers. Bush played a high-risk game and ggot called on it...we still won the hand with a guy who is going to be solid for us. This wasn't the disaster that it's being painted to be.

And for the record, I WANTED Bush more than Williams. But I'm not so prideful that I let it get in the way of my overall loyalty to this team.

Go Texans!

 

[UGA]

McNair and our front office has a mandate: Get with OUR program or get out!

You mean our 2-14 program?

 

[Hervoyel]

Mcnair was unhappy Bush couldnt come to terms by draft day, and let it get personal.

Great front office we have here.

We are a joke.

31 other teams you could be following right now so don't lose any sleep over this draft. We'll somehow get along without you.

 

[UGA]

31 other teams you could be following right now so don't lose any sleep over this draft. We'll somehow get along without you.

more texan apologist talk...

 

[GP]

You mean our 2-14 program?

Yep.

And where will you be when we are 14-2?

But of course, you're putting yourself in a situation to only succeed in your argument IF we lose and lose and lose. Is that what you want so that we will all "see the light" that you're wanting us to see?

Look, man. Bringing in KUBIAK alone was probably the best move we've made since this team was born. Free agency moves have been leaps and bounds above ALL FOUR PRIOR OFFSEASONS COMBINED. Our draft has been lauded by the premiere draft/NFL analysts (minus McClain, the weasel....) for the first time in our history--No other draft by our team has been met with this kind of appraisal.

And here you stand, actively wanting us to stink so that you can prove your point to us? Oh, I forgot...you're just saying we're "homers."

Spin it how you want. I'll spin it how I want. But at the end of the day, my view is based on hope in success and yours is based on hope via failure.

 

[UGA]

Yep.

OK, i just wanted to clarify that you are implying that our 2-14 program shoul drive away arguably the best talent in the draft in over 10 years, simply because he wasnt signed by the day of the draft.

And where will you be when we are 14-2?

probably watching the games like you...

14-2 is probably a decade away at this pace.

But of course, you're putting yourself in a situation to only succeed in your argument IF we lose and lose and lose. Is that what you want so that we will all "see the light" that you're wanting us to see?

No im putting myself in a situation where i can critique my team while trying to be impartial rather then being almost absurdly optimistic. Ill be rooting for the best like you.

Look, man. Bringing in KUBIAK alone was probably the best move we've made since this team was born. Free agency moves have been leaps and bounds above ALL FOUR PRIOR OFFSEASONS COMBINED. Our draft has been lauded by the premiere draft/NFL analysts (minus McClain, the weasel....) for the first time in our history--No other draft by our team has been met with this kind of appraisal.

I made a post the day of the draft saying i was more impressed with this draft then any of our previous. This while still believing we made an error off the top.

I think Kipers line of thought was fairly accurtate. We get a B for the talent we got and in what positions, but it would have been an A+ if you replaced Williams name with Bush.

 

[Hervoyel]

more texan apologist talk...

There wasn't an apology in sight there, just an invitation and since you're still here you obviously don't plan on taking me up on it. Pity.

Look if you're not happy with the pick or you don't like their reasons for it that's fine. It's even understandable. The problem is you're only seeing the side you want to see and you're not interested in doing anything but insulting the front office.

That and lumping anyone who doesn't see it your way in with them.