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John Metchie III: Don’t call it a comeback!

Texansphan

Texansphan

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Metchie looks set to have a comeback season.
I hope he gets opportunities to showcase his skills but not at the expense of injuries, but rather in garbage time when Texans have the game wrapped up.
If he can show the type of form we know he has in him, then we can either trade him, or keep him as our #3 and release Diggs.
If he can be a solid #3 for the Texans, a corp of Collins, Dell and Metchie will be better than average.
 
Texansphan said:
Metchie looks set to have a comeback season.
I hope he gets opportunities to showcase his skills but not at the expense of injuries, but rather in garbage time when Texans have the game wrapped up.
If he can show the type of form we know he has in him, then we can either trade him, or keep him as our #3 and release Diggs.
If he can be a solid #3 for the Texans, a corp of Collins, Dell and Metchie will be better than average.
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Mods, can this be moved to a thread that doesn’t give everyone a heart attack?
 
Texansphan said:
Metchie looks set to have a comeback season.
I hope he gets opportunities to showcase his skills but not at the expense of injuries, but rather in garbage time when Texans have the game wrapped up.
If he can show the type of form we know he has in him, then we can either trade him, or keep him as our #3 and release Diggs.
If he can be a solid #3 for the Texans, a corp of Collins, Dell and Metchie will be better than average.
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Release Diggs? 🤣😂 What a joker and you need to change your name.. oh wait somebody else already has that!
 
For ****'s sake, it's OK to start another ******* thread. Or at the very least put it in the random thoughts thread.
 
Dutchrudder said:
I propose we fix the thread title to include "(He got better)" to avoid any further confusion.
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Texansphan said:
He's on a one year deal right?
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Yes but you can only release him during this contract year after that he is a free agent. I just do not see in any way at all that he would be released no matter how good the others play, Stephon Diggs still a very good player.
 
badboy said:
Yes but you can only release him during this contract year after that he is a free agent. I just do not see in any way at all that he would be released no matter how good the others play, Stephon Diggs still a very good player.
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If you ready my post with care to detail, you should be able to ascertain my meaning is to release him after the season.
 

2024 NFL OTAs: Players who surprised us most at minicamp​

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Houston Texans​


WR John Metchie III

Metchie is flashing signs of what made him a second-round pick in the 2022 draft. Last year was the former Alabama standout's first season since tearing an ACL in December 2021 and being diagnosed with cancer in 2022. The long layoff showed as he finished with 16 catches for 158 yards. But his explosiveness appears back. He has also been in the rotation with the first-team offense. So even though the receiver room has Nico Collins, Tank Dell and Stefon Diggs, Metchie is positioning himself for a rotational role if he has a strong training camp. -- DJ Bien-Aime
 
Texansphan said:
Metchie looks set to have a comeback season.
I hope he gets opportunities to showcase his skills but not at the expense of injuries, but rather in garbage time when Texans have the game wrapped up.
If he can show the type of form we know he has in him, then we can either trade him, or keep him as our #3 and release Diggs.
If he can be a solid #3 for the Texans, a corp of Collins, Dell and Metchie will be better than average.
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For y'all's information, the title of this thread, which is actually a post teased out of another thread was not my doing nor choice of title.
Blame the mod for that but for mine, it is a comeback for John Metchie who seems to have recovered nicely from his run in with cancer! If he has a nice season, perhaps he can win some sort of comeback award.
Congrats on your recovery John.
Go get 'em tiger!
 
Texansphan said:
For y'all's information, the title of this thread, which is actually a post teased out of another thread was not my doing nor choice of title.
Blame the mod for that but for mine, it is a comeback for John Metchie who seems to have recovered nicely from his run in with cancer! If he has a nice season, perhaps he can win some sort of comeback award.
Congrats on your recovery John.
Go get 'em tiger!
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I join you in well wishes, but there is recovery from cancer and then there is recovery from cancer and then continuing a successful NFL career.
 
sprtsfanatic said:
At this point he will be 2 yrs removed from the knee surgery correct??? He should be well passed rehab and knee restrictions and considerations...if he can get back to his play making abilities from his bama days our WR corps is going to be unstoppable.
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I am concerned that his ACL caused his hamstring. Hoping he will be extremely valuable this season on our roster.

John Metchie Injury History & Updates

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I've posted on this subject several times in the past..............and people still refuse the reality that specifically NFL WRs who do return tend to have a poor long-term performance profile after coming back from an ACL.

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Decreased Performance and Return to Play Following Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Wide Receivers​

Colin J. Burgess, D.O.,a,∗ Erik Stapleton, D.O., M.S.,a Kenneth Choy, B.A.,b Cesar Iturriaga, M.D.,a and Randy M. Cohn, M.D.a
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Abstract​

Purpose​

To identify the time to return to play (RTP) and evaluate the performance level in wide receivers in the National Football League following anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) reconstruction.

Methods​

A total of 29 wide receivers in the National Football League who underwent ACL reconstruction between 2013 and 2017 who met inclusion criteria were retrospectively identified and reviewed. For each player, a matched control with similar demographics was identified to compare various in-game performance measurements and seasons played.

Results​

Of the wide receivers that met the inclusion criteria, 9 of 29 (31%) did not RTP in a regular season game following ACL reconstruction. For players who did RTP, 20 of 29 (69%), the average time was 10.9 months (331.4 ± 41.6 days). When we compared the tear group with the matched control cohort, players with ACL tears ended their careers on an average of 1.9 seasons earlier (2.2 vs 4.1 seasons, P < .001) and also played less than half the number of games (25.5 vs 56.6 games, P = .001), respectively. Those that RTP also saw decreased performance statistics in targets (353.6 vs 125.2 P < .001), receptions (208.0 vs 74.4, P = .001), receiving yards (2691.0 vs 987.9, P = .001), and touchdowns (17.4 vs 6.2, P = .002).

Conclusions​

Sixty-nine percent of wide receivers who underwent ACL reconstruction were able to RTP at an average of 10.9 months, or 331.4 days. Despite the majority of players being able to RTP, there was a significant decrease in both statistical performance and career duration.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I've posted on this subject several times in the past..............and people still refuse the reality that specifically NFL WRs who do return tend to have a poor long-term performance profile after coming back from an ACL.

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Decreased Performance and Return to Play Following Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Wide Receivers​

Colin J. Burgess, D.O.,a,∗ Erik Stapleton, D.O., M.S.,a Kenneth Choy, B.A.,b Cesar Iturriaga, M.D.,a and Randy M. Cohn, M.D.a
Author information Article notes Copyright and License information PMC Disclaimer

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Abstract​

Purpose​

To identify the time to return to play (RTP) and evaluate the performance level in wide receivers in the National Football League following anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) reconstruction.

Methods​

A total of 29 wide receivers in the National Football League who underwent ACL reconstruction between 2013 and 2017 who met inclusion criteria were retrospectively identified and reviewed. For each player, a matched control with similar demographics was identified to compare various in-game performance measurements and seasons played.

Results​

Of the wide receivers that met the inclusion criteria, 9 of 29 (31%) did not RTP in a regular season game following ACL reconstruction. For players who did RTP, 20 of 29 (69%), the average time was 10.9 months (331.4 ± 41.6 days). When we compared the tear group with the matched control cohort, players with ACL tears ended their careers on an average of 1.9 seasons earlier (2.2 vs 4.1 seasons, P < .001) and also played less than half the number of games (25.5 vs 56.6 games, P = .001), respectively. Those that RTP also saw decreased performance statistics in targets (353.6 vs 125.2 P < .001), receptions (208.0 vs 74.4, P = .001), receiving yards (2691.0 vs 987.9, P = .001), and touchdowns (17.4 vs 6.2, P = .002).

Conclusions​

Sixty-nine percent of wide receivers who underwent ACL reconstruction were able to RTP at an average of 10.9 months, or 331.4 days. Despite the majority of players being able to RTP, there was a significant decrease in both statistical performance and career duration.
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That doesn't apply to the Texans wide receivers though right?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I've posted on this subject several times in the past..............and people still refuse the reality that specifically NFL WRs who do return tend to have a poor long-term performance profile after coming back from an ACL.

****************

Decreased Performance and Return to Play Following Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Wide Receivers​

Colin J. Burgess, D.O.,a,∗ Erik Stapleton, D.O., M.S.,a Kenneth Choy, B.A.,b Cesar Iturriaga, M.D.,a and Randy M. Cohn, M.D.a
Author information Article notes Copyright and License information PMC Disclaimer

​

Abstract​

Purpose​

To identify the time to return to play (RTP) and evaluate the performance level in wide receivers in the National Football League following anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) reconstruction.

Methods​

A total of 29 wide receivers in the National Football League who underwent ACL reconstruction between 2013 and 2017 who met inclusion criteria were retrospectively identified and reviewed. For each player, a matched control with similar demographics was identified to compare various in-game performance measurements and seasons played.

Results​

Of the wide receivers that met the inclusion criteria, 9 of 29 (31%) did not RTP in a regular season game following ACL reconstruction. For players who did RTP, 20 of 29 (69%), the average time was 10.9 months (331.4 ± 41.6 days). When we compared the tear group with the matched control cohort, players with ACL tears ended their careers on an average of 1.9 seasons earlier (2.2 vs 4.1 seasons, P < .001) and also played less than half the number of games (25.5 vs 56.6 games, P = .001), respectively. Those that RTP also saw decreased performance statistics in targets (353.6 vs 125.2 P < .001), receptions (208.0 vs 74.4, P = .001), receiving yards (2691.0 vs 987.9, P = .001), and touchdowns (17.4 vs 6.2, P = .002).

Conclusions​

Sixty-nine percent of wide receivers who underwent ACL reconstruction were able to RTP at an average of 10.9 months, or 331.4 days. Despite the majority of players being able to RTP, there was a significant decrease in both statistical performance and career duration.
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How does it affect him since its been over 24 months? Does it even matter?? This information sounds as if its based on an attempt to return less than 12 mos after surgery/procedure...does the extra yr plus help any??
 
sprtsfanatic said:
How does it affect him since its been over 24 months? Does it even matter?? This information sounds as if its based on an attempt to return less than 12 mos after surgery/procedure...does the extra yr plus help any??
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Unfortunately, not in the big picture....................as the compromised prognosis is based on the damage to the ligament (plus the donor replacement site) and not uncommonly to the articular cartilage and meniscus...................all which contribute to long-term debility.

Damage to the meniscus and articular cartilage is common in conjunction with an ACL injury in adults. In fact, about 1/2 of ACL injuries occur with damage to other ligaments, meniscus or articular cartilage..............these associated injuries commonly not being publicly reported.
 
steelbtexan said:
Could he score that TD against the 49ers in the playoffs?
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Honestly? Possibly? 49ers bit hard and I think we've honestly seen Hutchinson make similar runs from similar plays.

I also don't make a habit of thinking a receiver is all that great because of one running play they make.
 
Sweech said:
Honestly? Possibly? 49ers bit hard and I think we've honestly seen Hutchinson make similar runs from similar plays.

I also don't make a habit of thinking a receiver is all that great because of one running play they make.
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I didn't say he was great. He did make a great play in the playoffs. That's one more great play than Metchie has made. Hopefully Metchie makes it back to the type of player Caserio thought he was drafting.

BTW, have you seen Hutchinson ever take a play to the house?
 
steelbtexan said:
I didn't say he was great. He did make a great play in the playoffs. That's one more great play than Metchie has made. Hopefully Metchie makes it back to the type of player Caserio thought he was drafting.

BTW, have you seen Hutchinson ever take a play to the house?
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No, and he may never. Just saying on that exact play I think he could have taken it to the house as well.
 
Sweech said:
But that's possibly to the point @CloakNNNdagger is making that Jameson Williams might not have Williams speed anymore either.
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Obviously he hasn't lost speed.

Just by looking at him run on that play. Now he might have lost the ability to cut sharply. (I'm not sure about this) Williams also may be a guy that beat the odds. Lets hope Metchie beats the odds. By all accounts he's a great guy.
 
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