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Jim Johnson anyone?

I have never heard that he has that much authority.

Oh when I said what he can control and what he cant, I was referring to the QB having his head up his ass at critical moments and throwing Ints. Of course that is all Kubiaks game calling, right?

Of course taking one sentence out of all what I said and not answering anything does not explain your position and what I was asking, par for the course.
The fact that you don't know that Kubiak has that much authority doesn't make it any less true.

Kubiak selected both quarterbacks on this team and gave them the jobs with no real competition. That alone gives him a lot of responsibilty for their play.

I "explained my position" when I said that with authority comes responsibility. You must have missed that.
 
My question, the D not with standing, does the bad mistakes Kubiak makes out way the good that the offense has been since he took over?

Of course taking one sentence out of all what I said and not answering anything does not explain your position...
OK, the answer is...yes. The mistakes Teflonman has made outweighs whatever progress the offense has made. I know this, by looking at his record. I know this by watching the games.

Teflonman's teams find ways to lose. Maybe the defense sucks. Maybe the offense turns the ball over in the red zone. Maybe there is a special teams gaff. Or a challenge blunder. Always clock mismanagement.

If the Texans lead the league in first downs, and still have a losing record...so what? Stats can help identify why teams win or lose. But, the bottom line is the win/loss record. I've never suggested that Teflonman isn't a good offensive coordinator. What I've said is that he's a bad head coach. And that WCO coordinators are replaceable. How can I be more clear?
 
The fact that you don't know that Kubiak has that much authority doesn't make it any less true.

Kubiak selected both quarterbacks on this team and gave them the jobs with no real competition. That alone gives him a lot of responsibility for their play.

I "explained my position" when I said that with authority comes responsibility. You must have missed that.

Never said it was not true just that I am not aware of it is true. As far as no competition for the QB position it seems that has been very accurate. Especially given how Rosenfail has played. I am not saying he is without blame, I just want to replace all of the defensive coaches and see what the teams record will be.

OK, the answer is...yes. The mistakes Teflonman has made outweighs whatever progress the offense has made. I know this, by looking at his record. I know this by watching the games.

Teflonman's teams find ways to lose. Maybe the defense sucks. Maybe the offense turns the ball over in the red zone. Maybe there is a special teams gaff. Or a challenge blunder. Always clock mismanagement.

If the Texans lead the league in first downs, and still have a losing record...so what? Stats can help identify why teams win or lose. But, the bottom line is the win/loss record. I've never suggested that Teflonman isn't a good offensive coordinator. What I've said is that he's a bad head coach. And that WCO coordinators are replaceable. How can I be more clear?

So again it is black and white? W - L only. I understand that but I think there is more that has to be looked at. So as the team is not redoing everything, every three years.

Lucky I am not trying to argue with you, only state my position and try to understand yours. I have said Kubiak has made mistakes, and I even said he needs to turn over the play calling to Jr and he needs to concentrate on the other things and that will make him a better head coach.
 
Is everything black or white to those that want Kubiak gone and to scrap everything and start over? How about how the Offense is working and the D is not. Does Kubiak make mistakes, oh hell yes.

My question, the D not with standing, does the bad mistakes Kubiak makes out way the good that the offense has been since he took over? I am referring to what he can control, not what he can't. This all reminds me of what the so called experts said about Belichick while he was in Cleveland.

Since Kubiak is considered the teflonman, shouldn't Rick Smith be fired as well since he has kept the Director of Pro Personnel, Associate Director of Pro Scouting, Director of College Scouting and last but not least Director of Player Development. I mean he has been here two years and we are not winning Super Bowls yet.

We haven't been to the playoffs or even sniffed them yet either. Meanwhile Payton and Mangini have done well with probably less. Mike Smith and Sporano have turned their programs completely around in a year, with teams with deeper problems than what Kubiak inherited.

Kubes isn't an inovative coach and Smith isn't some roster genius. They are pretty much just trying to instill the same mediocre football that the Denver Broncos have run since Elway retired. Most of the offense is pretty much predicated on Andre Johnson being great and making plays. Steve Slaton appears to be a legit second offensive weapon but other than Owen Daniels making some clutch catches there really isn't much there
 
You may have heard, there is a salary cap in this league. The Texans have routinely been up against it. Now there are plenty of examples of the Texans paying money they shouldn't have--Walker extension, Carr extension, Wade, Robaire, etc. but unless you are going to argue their plan is to pay the same money for worse players, it isn't that they are unwilling to pay for players.

Great point. A lot of people forget this is why in the past we have not gone after the big name free agents. We simply didn't have the cap space and had so many holes to fill that we couldn't get into a bidding war. So we had to go to the bargain bin and try to find guys that would hopefully work out. I say this is the first offseason we sign that big name free agent we have been waiting for.
 
I've resigned myself to the fact that if Kubiak replaces Smith (a big if ) then he will promote Frank Bush to DC.

IIRC he wanted Bush from the beginning but was unable to sign him. I think this fact has been previously discussed on this site.

I say "a big if " because he could have already replaced Smith with Bush if that was the plan.

As to why he wanted Bush..........I have no clue.

What has Bush ever done?

Be prepared for more Smith next year.

If Kubiak has proven anything this year it's that he has tunnel vision and is very stubborn.

Stubbornness and tunnel vision are admirable... if you are right.


:coffee:

i agree with this line of thinking. i wouldn't be suprise if Smith is still the DC next year. Kubiak has proven time and time again that he is a "stay the course" kind of guy. He absolutely believes in his guys.

He might be right... he might not. He's definately stubborn.

Go Texans
 
You may have heard, there is a salary cap in this league. The Texans have routinely been up against it. Now there are plenty of examples of the Texans paying money they shouldn't have--Walker extension, Carr extension, Wade, Robaire, etc. but unless you are going to argue their plan is to pay the same money for worse players, it isn't that they are unwilling to pay for players.

Great point Icak.

Our scouting department really needs to be looked at considering we're supposed to be building this team through the draft. I'm all for building a team through the draft but if you see a chance to better your team through FA they need to be smart pickups.
 
Johnson has never been the problem in Philly. If Reid leaves, no way Johnson is asked to leave with him.

i agree, plus Johnson runs a 3-4 so it would require Kubes to change his philosophy on defense & at that point Mauluga is the prime target for us in the draft.
 
A little bit off topic but I was just browsing the web and came across this little snippet about us:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Scouts+Eye/2008/eye112408.htm

"The Texans are beginning to look a lot like Denver. It does not matter who is running, passing or catching the ball — the system is self-sufficient and very productive irrespective of the moving parts. The defense, however, continues to be a big problem area. Team sources say Richard Smith is as good as gone after the season and expect a more established defensive coordinator, perhaps one even having head-coaching experience, to take over the reins. Mike Nolan could be a prime candidate."

Nolan is one of a handful of people that I have heard mentioned that I would be very pleased with. It sounds like PFW is taking a shot in the dark throwing his name out there because I doubt anyone they talked to specifically named him but he definitely fits the criteria. Also most of us know that Smith is as good as gone but hearing it from some sources is reassuring.


I'd sure like to know who these "team sources" are. Media?

Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.
 
I'd sure like to know who these "team sources" are. Media?

Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.


Is an assistant to the janitor a "team source"?

I agree with HouTex, unless there is a naming of names, it's all conjecture.

Or "bull-butter" as HouTex so eloquently put it...:D

:coffee:
 
I'd sure like to know who these "team sources" are. Media?

Who in the organization would come out in say something? I think I might call bull-butter on this one.

Journalism ethics. No one is officially going to come forward and say that and put their job at risk.

Either way I really hope it is true.
 
They are pretty much just trying to instill the same mediocre football that the Denver Broncos have run since Elway retired.
What about the mediocre system the 2 years before that? Wasn't it the same?

Most of the offense is pretty much predicated on Andre Johnson being great and making plays. Steve Slaton appears to be a legit second offensive weapon but other than Owen Daniels making some clutch catches there really isn't much there

I guess that's why our offense is down in the depths of the league.....:thisbig:

You forgot about our "can start anywhere in the league #2" Kevin Dub Walter.
 
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