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Jeff Fisher OUT as Titans HC

Just on NFLN now. May be announced tomorrow. Reports coming from Don Banks of SI. Based on a tip he received, they are negotiating his terms for settlement.
 
Fisher, 52, and owner Bud Adams have been at odds for years, mostly specifically about Fisher's use of QB Vince Young. At the end of the season, Young cursed out Fisher in front of the team after a November game.

Fisher gave Adams a Young-or-me ultimatum and Adams, after days of mulling the decision, said publically that the team would trade or release Young. It is not know if Fisher's departure will pave the way for Young to stay with the team.
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I guess Bud let that finger fly one too many times.

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No matter who the HC will be now, with or without VY, this is going to be a train wreck. Why can I say that with confidence? Because Bud is still the flag man on the tracks. Houston was only the "practice run."

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Some fans won't be able to watch the wheels come off..............I won't be one of them.:popcorn:
 
Hey Jeff.

Just heard the news.

Dwell on the good days, not the bad.

Hey, since you're unemployed, want a job with me? I can't really give you a title persay...I mean if you wanna get technical it would be "Defensive Assistant" but really we just need a bunch of help real fast on defense. You and Wade can do it for sure, I know it and with my boy Gary running his show on offense we'll be unstoppable.

Look I know you're getting other offers but how's 5 million a year?

And maybe if I need a new coach you'll happen to be right here waiting....

Signed Bob McNair.
 
IT will be interesting how fast he gets a job since one of the cute things to say is that he would have a job by sundown on the day he got fired.

I hear Eagles fans want him as a DC. That would probably make them unstoppable.
 
I thought I would see what the Tennessee papers had to say. This article clears things up - not.


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The team released a one-sentence press release: "The Tennessee Titans and Jeff Fisher have agreed to part ways and Fisher will no longer be the head coach of the team."

Fisher has spent the past 16 seasons with the team. The Titans finished 6-10 last season, the Titans opted not to extend Fisher’s contract but there were indications he would be back for 2011.

Reached on Thursday after SI.com first reported the news, Titans owner Bud Adams had no comment and seemed surprised.

“Where did you hear that? I better check on that. I can’t talk about it now. I have to talk to my people there,’’ Adams said. “I haven’t talked to them today. I really can’t talk about it now because I don’t know what’s been said. I want to see what is going on.’’
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:popcorn: I had to get a refill.
 
Just a quick visit to titanstailgate.com and most of them seem pretty happy about this. At least most who have posted on this so far.
 
Here is a gem from GoTitans

Just kidding. I liked Fisher, but it was time for a change. I hope we keep VY now too. A coaching change is certainly what he needed because it was no secret that he and Fisher didn't get along. So, who are we gonna get?

I'm hoping we pull someone proven like Cowher or Gruden or Dungy. But that's a lot to ask for. At least we have some talented players that may draw some good coaches. Man these last couple years being a Titans and Vols fan have been tough.
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Don't really know why everyone thinks the Titans are so screwed right now because of Bud Adams when we have Bob Mcnair.

Hopefully they don't land one of the big fish HC"s that will become a thorn in the Texans. Not that it matters until Smithiak is gone, but I hate seeing the Titans successful in any capacity. To bad this didn't happen a while back at the very end of the season. Maybe Uncle Bob would have actually considered Fisher had he been on the open market over keeping stupiak since he's so into bringing in guys with ties to old Houston teams.
 
Texecutioner said:
Don't really know why everyone thinks the Titans are so screwed right now because of Bud Adams when we have Bob Mcnair.

Hopefully they don't land one of the big fish HC"s that will become a thorn in the Texans. Not that it matters until Smithiak is gone, but I hate seeing the Titans successful in any capacity. To bad this didn't happen a while back at the very end of the season. Maybe Uncle Bob would have actually considered Fisher had he been on the open market over keeping stupiak since he's so into bringing in guys with ties to old Houston teams.
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Wait!!! What?!!! Did you just compare Buck Fud Adams favorably to McNair? Really? Obviously you were not around when the Oilers were here.

Adams is 1000 times worse as an owner, whether you like McNair or not. To pretend otherwise is sheer ignorance.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
Really??? I would love to go off on this, but I am pretty much speechless.
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Yeah, I can't even go that far. For as many mistakes as Bob has made, he doesn't come close to Adams. When Bob is out there embarrassing this franchise by shooting off double 1 finger salutes then we can talk. Bob's mistakes come from him being naive and mostly due to being inexperienced in the NFL. LOL, Bud has been going at this for 5 decades and is still as big of a clown as ever...he's entering Al Davis territory.


And even if we did fire Kubiak and Fisher was available, I wouldn't want him. He's all media hype and his perceived reputation greatly outweighs the actual on the field production that makes up Fisher's resume. It would pretty much be a lateral move. Still mediocrity
 
JB said:
Wait!!! What?!!! Did you just compare Buck Fud Adams favorably to McNair? Really? Obviously you were not around when the Oilers were here.

Adams is 1000 times worse as an owner, whether you like McNair or not. To pretend otherwise is sheer ignorance.
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No he is not. You just don't like Adams because he ran away with the Oilers. Mcnair is just as bad but in different ways. We;ve had a franchise here for 9 years and Mcnair has done nothing to show that he's highly committed to winning. He's just more classy, but that doesn't make him a better over all owner. Not from what he's shown thus far. I'd say it's sheer ignorance to act like Bob Mcnair has shown that he's any better than any owner at this point really. He's right there with guys like Bud Adams, Al Davis, Mike Brown (Bengals), William Clay Ford SR (Lions), and Ralph Wilson (Bills). His motivation as an owner from what he's displayed and more importantly "expressed" has been one of mediocrity as a module of success. Those were his own words.

And I've been around here my entire life, so yeah I was around here for a ton of the Oiler years and quite frankly those were by far my favorite and most fun years as a fan in this city along with the 80's and 90's Rockets years. The House Of Pain days were epic. Once Bud took his team and left though, the Oilers died. To hell with him and his now Titans team. Despite his history and poor reputation, Mcnair isn't any better where winning is concerned.
 
All i got to say is Kubiak better not get off to a slow start. If we start out 2 and 4 and Fisher and Cowher are still unemployed McNair better be on the phone. Of course I know this is wishfull thinking. Phillips is our next HC.:wadepalm:
 
Texecutioner said:
No he is not. You just don't like Adams because he ran away with the Oilers. Mcnair is just as bad but in different ways. We;ve had a franchise here for 9 years and Mcnair has done nothing to show that he's highly committed to winning. He's just more classy, but that doesn't make him a better over all owner. Not from what he's shown thus far. I'd say it's sheer ignorance to act like Bob Mcnair has shown that he's any better than any owner at this point really. He's right there with guys like Bud Adams, Al Davis, Mike Brown (Bengals), William Clay Ford SR (Lions), and Ralph Wilson (Bills). His motivation as an owner from what he's displayed and more importantly "expressed" has been one of mediocrity as a module of success. Those were his own words.

And I've been around here my entire life, so yeah I was around here for a ton of the Oiler years and quite frankly those were by far my favorite and most fun years as a fan in this city along with the 80's and 90's Rockets years. The House Of Pain days were epic. Once Bud took his team and left though, the Oilers died. To hell with him and his now Titans team. Despite his history and poor reputation, Mcnair isn't any better where winning is concerned.
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Dude, Fud was a joke and I hated him long before the Oiler's left town. I have followed Houston football since the early '60's. And I can tell you that McNair has not come anywhere close to the asshattery that Fud pulled in the late '60's and early 70's.
 
Bud Adams is much more of a horrible owner than McNair, it's not even close. The Oilers did put better teams on the field than the Texans have even come close to, but that was in spite of Bud, not because of him.
 
I don't understand why people would say Fisher is overrated and Cowher is some kind of football god in the same breath. The difference between Fisher and Cowher is Ben Roethlisberger and Dick LeBeau. Think about it.
 
Well, it's an old folks landslide... Sorry Tex, you know I agree with about 99% of what ya say, but we're gonna part ways here... having lived through the Oilers experience since '67, I can give an opinion of someone who saw it, and heard it first hand... their is NO comparison. By the time the Oilers left in '96, I was no longer a fan of the team.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
Well, it's an old folks landslide... Sorry Tex, you know I agree with about 99% of what ya say, but we're gonna part ways here... having lived through the Oilers experience since '67, I can give an opinion of someone who saw it, and heard it first hand... their is NO comparison. By the time the Oilers left in '96, I was no longer a fan of the team.
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Yep, and people (FTF, not directed at you even though I quoted you - just continuing the thought) want to call McNair cheap. How many players did Bud refuse to pay?? His cheapskate ways kept the Oilers from ever building a top notch team while in Houston. Note the qualifier while in Houston, after leaving, his desire to stick it to Houston loosened up the purse strings a bit.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Yeah, I can't even go that far. For as many mistakes as Bob has made, he doesn't come close to Adams. When Bob is out there embarrassing this franchise by shooting off double 1 finger salutes then we can talk. Bob's mistakes come from him being naive and mostly due to being inexperienced in the NFL. LOL, Bud has been going at this for 5 decades and is still as big of a clown as ever...he's entering Al Davis territory.


And even if we did fire Kubiak and Fisher was available, I wouldn't want him. He's all media hype and his perceived reputation greatly outweighs the actual on the field production that makes up Fisher's resume. It would pretty much be a lateral move. Still mediocrity
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Like I said he's just as bad but for different reasons. Just because he doesn't shoot the bird at other fans and act like an ass in public doesn't make him any worse of an owner for a franchise if you're main goal is supposed to be about winning. Bob's actions since he's been here for 9 years now suggest that his main goal as an owner is strictly profit. It's not winning. So as a fan whose main goal to see their team win and become successful, I could care less about Mcnair or Bud or any other owner's net profits every season. All I or any other fan should care about is what actions the owner takes to make his team a winner and Bob hasn't shown a strong commitment there as far as I'm concerned so that puts him right there with guys like Bud, Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown and a few others in bad company.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Why? What has Jeff Fisher done as a HC in the last decade? The guy was the most overrated coach in the league. Even if we did fire Kubiak, I wouldn't want him here. Jim Washburn was the strength of that team, everything outside of the Dline was very mediocre.
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Thank YOU!!! Thank YOU!!! THANK YOU!! Spot on! 6 winning seasons in 16+ years.
 
Bulluck53 said:
I don't understand why people would say Fisher is overrated and Cowher is some kind of football god in the same breath. The difference between Fisher and Cowher is Ben Roethlisberger and Dick LeBeau. Think about it.
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WRONG.. Cowher coached teams to Superbowls LONG before Roethlisberger and he didn't need a "music city miracle" to get them there.

This is how OVERRATED Fisher is. Honestly what's the difference between Jeff Fisher the head coach and Wade Phillips the head coach? Will somebody please tell me, because the only difference I can see is the music city miracle and Wade's aw shucks personality.

Wade has had more success than Fisher as a head coach and has been more consistent. It's laughable to compare Fisher to Cowher. The problem here is that everybody has heard how "great of a coach" Fisher is from the national media, but nobody has looked at him closely or tried to ask the question "why is he considered a great coach", because if they're actually free thinkers and look at the #s he is not a great head coach.

The guy was a mediocre coach and if he didn't get to the SB that one year (which came from a fluke play) he would've been canned 10 years ago.
 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Titans still plan to trade or release Vince Young following Jeff Fisher's exit as head coach.

Interesting. The Titans' front office had clearly soured on V.Y. by the end of the season, but owner Bud Adams remained a staunch supporter. This news suggests the fissure between Fisher and Adams runs deeper, and perhaps that Fisher had seen the writing on the wall for weeks. Per NFL Network's Michael Lombardi, Young's lack of work ethic is "legendary" in the locker room and around the NFL. With his trade value in the tank, Young is as likely to be released as traded.
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Thorn said:
Bud Adams is much more of a horrible owner than McNair, it's not even close. The Oilers did put better teams on the field than the Texans have even come close to, but that was in spite of Bud, not because of him.
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And took much, much longer.
 
Nasty move by Adams to fire Fisher after all the head coaching jobs were filled.

Titans will be a worse team long term for this.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
Yep, and people (FTF, not directed at you even though I quoted you - just continuing the thought) want to call McNair cheap. How many players did Bud refuse to pay?? His cheapskate ways kept the Oilers from ever building a top notch team while in Houston. Note the qualifier while in Houston, after leaving, his desire to stick it to Houston loosened up the purse strings a bit.
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And in 9 years how has Bob been any different? He's neglected to make any big step to fix this team.
 
JB said:
Dude, Fud was a joke and I hated him long before the Oiler's left town. I have followed Houston football since the early '60's. And I can tell you that McNair has not come anywhere close to the asshattery that Fud pulled in the late '60's and early 70's.
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I'm not sure Bud had any fans, long before leaving town. He's been an asshat since as long as I can remember.
 
Texecutioner said:
Like I said he's just as bad but for different reasons. Just because he doesn't shoot the bird at other fans and act like an ass in public doesn't make him any worse of an owner for a franchise if you're main goal is supposed to be about winning. Bob's actions since he's been here for 9 years now suggest that his main goal as an owner is strictly profit. It's not winning. So as a fan whose main goal to see their team win and become successful, I could care less about Mcnair or Bud or any other owner's net profits every season. All I or any other fan should care about is what actions the owner takes to make his team a winner and Bob hasn't shown a strong commitment there as far as I'm concerned so that puts him right there with guys like Bud, Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown and a few others in bad company.
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Yeah except he's not just as bad. Sorry, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Bob McNair is NOT as bad of a owner as Bud Adams. Bob McNair hires people then he gets out of the way and while it hasn't worked out yet, when he does hire the right people we're going to greatly enjoy having a owner who gets out of the way. Bud has actually HAD THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE and he still screws the pouch.

Just because Bob McNair has struggled as a owner, that doesn't make him near as bad as Bud. There's 32 owners in this league and if you were to rank them from best to worst there's a pretty sizable gap between Bob McNair and Bud Adams.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Thank YOU!!! Thank YOU!!! THANK YOU!! Spot on! 6 winning seasons in 16+ years.
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What? I've heard you rep Fisher as a great HC like a Gazillion times in the past in year. Fisher was one of your top examples as to why Kubiak should have been retained after season 3 and season 4 actually. You said that Kubiak could be this next great coach like Fisher or Tom Landry if he had more time to build and that was part of your argument many times.
 
What's going to be awkward is when the Titans make the playoffs with their new coach before the Texans do.

Talk about weirdness.

Other teams have turned it around with a new coach. Titans could do it, too.
 
Texecutioner said:
What? I've heard you rep Fisher as a great HC like a Gazillion times in the past in year. Fisher was one of your top examples as to why Kubiak should have been retained after season 3 and season 4 actually. You said that Kubiak could be this next great coach like Fisher or Tom Landry if he had more time to build and that was part of your argument many times.
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This is going to get interesting.

:popcorn:
 
Carr Bombed said:
Yeah except he's not just as bad. Sorry, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Bob McNair is NOT as bad of a owner as Bud Adams. Bob McNair hires people then he gets out of the way and while it hasn't worked out yet, when he does hire the right people we're going to greatly enjoy having a owner who gets out of the way. Bud has actually HAD THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE and he still screws the pouch.

Just because Bob McNair has struggled as a owner, that doesn't make him near as bad as Bud. There's 32 owners in this league and if you were to rank them from best to worst there's a pretty sizable gap between Bob McNair and Bud Adams.
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So far he has been in the crowd with the worse ones. Our records and lack of accountability within this franchise are an indication of that especially after this season where we kept this whole "Smithiak" project going after year 5. Will that change one day if we ever get the right GM and HC in here that are great hires? Possibly, but that's certainly no guarantee that will happen any time soon or even in the next 20 years. I mean Bob came out publicly and said "We're on the right track" in year 5 of a terrible losing streak and embarrassing season in a 5 year failed regime. I don't know how poor it can get from a franchise owner to display that type of ambition.
 
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