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Jamie Sharper on the Trading Block

Yall are crazy if you think Sharper for the Browns #1 is going to work. There is no way that would happen. Now are 3rd plus Sharper for the Bengals #17, thats a little more realistic. Still I have a hard time beleiving that we could get anything higher than a second rounder. They would REALLY have to be high on Sharper to give away their 1st round pick.

I don't understand why we would trade away Sharper and then go and then trade up for Derrick Johnson. That would take draft picks and I thought one of the purposes of trading away Sharper was to get rid of his contract. If we draft at #3, we will be taking on another big contract.

The direction the Texans D is going is for Greenwood and Wong to play in the middle, and maybe we draft a guy like Thurman to play around with. Other than that and maybe drafting a guy to play ROLB with Peek, maybe Merrian or another one of those tweeniers, I see this linebacking core taking no more futher drastic changes.
 
if this does happen, we would need to sign hartwell and still hope to trade up for DJ. if that happens, i think if wouldn't be that bad of a thing
 
More bad news. According to Fox 26, both Sharper and Foreman told the Texans that if they're not able to make a trade soon then they wish to be released in order to give them a shot to find a spot on another club. Sharper sounded upset on the phone interview, and he said the he was willing to restructure his contract to stay a Texan but apparently the Texans weren't interested.
 
... and don't forget that Bradford showed his pretty Lions jersey. He was impressed that he got a jersey and a locker space already (doesn't take much does it?) and that the Lions said they had 2 recievers and that he could battle for a position. He's gonna check out the Giants as well.
 
Im still hoping for the rumour about him going to Cleveland and us getting the #3 pick to possibly pick of Derrick Johnson. Is there any update on that matter or has it been declared as not going to happen?
 
I don't think the Texans are too interested in getting anything other than draft picks for Sharper and Foreman. It may not matter, though, 'cause I don't think many teams are gonna trade for a guy who will be getting cut anyway?
 
Foreman yes, Sharper no. Very well could be wrong but I doubt they cut Sharper without a trade. If the cap room is available and there is nobody signing on to replace him/take up his cap space then why not keep Sharper rather than release him?
 
infantrycak said:
Foreman yes, Sharper no. Very well could be wrong but I doubt they cut Sharper without a trade. If the cap room is available and there is nobody signing on to replace him/take up his cap space then why not keep Sharper rather than release him?
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I agree. I don't see them cutting Sharper unless a bonafide replacement has been found. I just think the idea that the Texans will cut Sharper (whether or not they plan to) might lower his trade value (meaning Sharper will probably remain a Texan).

I personally would like to team to get some extra picks and trade up to take the guy they covet most.
 
Given the other thread. My musing is more than likely waaaay off the mark. Sharper would be worth a high price to any team looking to win now.
 
MojoX said:
Given the other thread. My musing is more than likely waaaay off the mark. Sharper would be worth a high price to any team looking to win now.
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That thread was removed until the poster could produce a link. Don't hold your breath, it was likely a hoax,
 
Lucky said:
That thread was removed until the poster could produce a link. Don't hold your breath, it was likely a hoax,
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Yeah, I realized that after it disappeared and no one else had posted it anywhere.
 
SESupergenius said:
Can we ever keep a unit together? :taz:
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well obviously there was a weakness in the previous unit. they couldnt pass rush. there would be a size issue w/o foreman and sharper, but we will be faster.
 
If he's serious and the Texans aren't willing to restructure, then I don't know what to think... :confused:

with as many changes it appears we'll be making this offseason, particularly on D, I don't see how there will be a serious push for the playoffs in '05

but I seriously hope I'm wrong.
 
Sharper, speaking publicly for the first time since being given permission to seek a trade, seemed resigned to leaving Houston after leading the team in tackles two of the last three years. Both he and Foreman expressed appreciation for their teammates and fans and regret they weren't able to lead the Texans into the playoffs.

"I've had some time to take it all in, and I'm ready to move on," Sharper said. "We're trying to work out a trade, but it's not looking like that's going to happen. I respect the fact they gave me an opportunity to seek a trade, but if it can't happen in the next couple of days, I need to be released."

Sharper said he met with general manager Charley Casserly on Monday and was told it's possible the Texans could hold on to him until they see how the roster looks after the draft.

"I don't think that would be fair," Sharper said. "That's where we have a difference of opinion."

Casserly declined comment.
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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3077869
 
The sooner this is over the better. I am concerned that this will turn ugly before it's all over. I guess it's just like any other job. When the boss says hit the door . . . .
 
if we release sharper and get nothing in return.. im gonna have to say Casserly ****ed up really badly.
 
If you put it into relative terms, think of it this way:

Did green bay mess up badly by not getting anything in return for Darren Sharper and Mike Wahle? They're still a playoff caliber team

Did the Titans mess up badly by getting rid of Mason and Carter? I dont think so, they still have great young talent and a terrific coaching staff.

Losing Sharper will hurt if no one else steps up, but thats what seperates the winning teams from the losing teams i guess.
 
I guess the difference is that we werent in cap trouble.. Sharper wasnt in a contract year.. and if we arent getting anything of value from letting him go.. then we should have kept him for another season and benefited from his services.
 
You know, deep down...you gotta feel for these guys.

Things like this seperate this "game" from a "business".

Good luck to both of them...its gonna be extremely strange not seeing 55 with the dread-locks not on the field.
 
true that man...he will be missed...I kind of hope he doesn't go to St. Louis, Kansas City, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indy, Arizona, Cleveland, or Pittsburgh...that'd be weird to see him come to Reliant in a different uni.

but sharper is in the final year of his deal...that's the problem grid.
 
See, comments like this still make me wonder:

"I don't think (Sharper and I) were the problem on defense," the station quoted Foreman as saying. "I thought we were the centerpiece."
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:confused: ...:shocked ... :(

this is not the news i wanted to read before going to bed...*visions of of a texans LB core not anchored by sharper* ...:thud:...

we'll miss you 'predator'... *really wishes this was less business and more sport* ...
 
ThaShark316 said:
Comments like those makes it official...They WON'T be here next year, u can chalk it up, dawg, they're gone.
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well...if they do come back, it's going to be a long season when they slack off during games not wanting to be a texan
 
great, i go to work and come home to read this.... ay ay ay!

im still trying to figure out why CC wants to wait until the draft. if we can get a pick high enough, maybe the top 5 or so we have a good chance to get DJ. or why not tell wong to move inside. theyve said that he wont play that position, but why not assign him there and see what kind of production we get.

hey texanfanincc , im in corpus christi also. cool to see another texan fan in cc
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geez guys, dont forget me. :BananaWav
 
On houstonprofootball.com, it said Sharper is willing to sign an extention, which makes me wonder why CC has not gotten the paper work ready.
 
We go from signing a LB out of knowhere (good money too), to jossling positions in the LB core to accept this signing, etc... then to finding out Sharper is allowed to seek a trade, accepting that because it could make us a better team in the long run, etc... to now it becoming a REAL possiblilty that he is just going to be released?????

That would be a step backwards for this franchise. Just when we are entering year 4. Not good.
 
All the negativity surrounding this is NOT good for the team, organization, fans, etc.

I'd like to think that the staff knows something we don't, but knowing they aren't willing to extend his contract really concerns me. How hard would it be to keep him around for another year if it isn't creating salary cap issues?

He may be getting older and he may not be as good as he way a year or two ago, but I know that the is part of the backbone of the defense, a leader to the young guys and a favorite of the fans. That alone should seal his spot and, especially if he is willing to extend his contract. I think we should give him the respect he has earned over the past three years and at least work with him.

I realize that this is also a business, but even in business, you have to make sacrifices for the good of the team, and I don't think all the negativity is good for anyone involved.
 
TEXANS84 said:
You know, deep down...you gotta feel for these guys.
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I do ...... then I wake up and go to work ....


There are two sides to this story ... but I suspect we won't be seeing CC on the news talking about it much ...
 
you know what's really sad about this...if this is about the comments sharper made towards the end of the season i can't help but think that capers and casserly are handling this like a bunch of babies...ya'll are grown men can't ya'll act like it...simply releasing sharper cannot be a possibility...they need to find a trade suitor and atleast get a draft pick...better to get a 4th rounder than nothing at all...i really feel for sharper i honestly think that casserly could of handled this a lot better and i hope this isn't a sign of things to come from him
 
Mushin Muhammed was a Carolina Panther fan favorite and he was released after they were unable to get a trade.

Troy Brown was a New England Patriots fan favorite and he was released without a trade.

Fan favoritism ranks very low on a GM's totem pole when managing a salary cap. The results of the team meetings are becoming very obvious. They have evidently concluded that the lack of a pass rush last season was not the fault of the line, but of the linebacking core.

The fact that the moves that the Texans' staff are making are so "surprising", indicates how little we know about what is going on. I would give my left arm to be a fly on the wall inside those team meetings.
 
:ninja: You guys are being to sentimental . Its obvious Capers and Casserly don't believe Sharper and Foreman are vital to get where they want to go . Foreman dropped of the planet last year and I don't believe Sharper is getting any better .
 
Marcus said:
Fan favoritism ranks very low on a GM's totem pole when managing a salary cap. The results of the team meetings are becoming very obvious. They have evidently concluded that the lack of a pass rush last season was not the fault of the line, but of the linebacking core.

The fact that the moves that the Texans' staff are making are so "surprising", indicates how little we know about what is going on. I would give my left arm to be a fly on the wall inside those team meetings.
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Well said. In addition, Joe Fan complains when changes are made and when the team performs poorly will equally complain about changes that were not made. There is no way for CC, DC and the staff to keep all the fans happy. They (CC & DC) have a strategy and we should sit back and wait and watch. This is a sport for entertainment to the fan, but unfortunately, to the participants it's a business as this event has reminded us.
 
geez guys, dont forget me. :BananaWav[/QUOTE]



Or me. :monkey:


I certainly don't know the whole story here but Sharper is still a great player. He is one of the best mlb in the league and he isn't fighting injuries or missing entire seasons to rehab or having a really off year like some players we know. He has been with us from the start and has played his butt off. Sharper even stated that he thought he would spend the rest of his career here and is willing to renegotiate his contract.
 
word on the street is that sharper will cost a "mid-round pick". i certainly hope it would be better, but yes, i agree that the texans must be targeting either DJ in the draft (by moving up), or somebody else that would be an impact player on defense.
 
Sharper was on the news last night talking and there are some things he said that yall need to understand.

#1. A trade is not very likely. he isnt getting alot of interest.

#2. He said that he offered to restructure his contract, but that we released him instead.

#3. He said that he wanted to retire a Texan, but that now he wants to be released.



SO.. there is no "why dont we just restructure and keep him".. he will either be released, or traded.

As far as our LB corp goes.. I find it hard to beleive that we decided Sharper wasnt doing his job. I think we released him because we want to redo our LBs.. but also because we figured we could trade him for something. Now we are just going to lose a great LB, and get nothing for it.
 
I think Sharper made the mistake of not toeing the company line with a remark or 2 he made last year about the teams directions and got into managements doghouse and now can't get out. And I'm not surprised they
can't get more than a mid round pick for him - vets like Jamie just don't
fetch that much in the way of college draft picks.
 
nunusguy said:
I think Sharper made the mistake of not toeing the company line with a remark or 2 he made last year about the teams directions and got into managements doghouse and now can't get out. And I'm not surprised they
can't get more than a mid round pick for him - vets like Jamie just don't
fetch that much in the way of college draft picks.
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Well then lets get a frickin mid round pick. Outright release is unnacceptable.
 
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