Jamel White and Lamar Gordon

[Bobo]

Right, Bradford is far from being the 2nd most talented WR on their team, just as of right now he has less off-field problems than two of the others, both of whom have also underachieved in the past and are still adjusting to the league in general, much less a relatively complex system like Martz has.



If Williams and Rogers had been successful and proven themselves to be worthy of their 1st round pick over the last few years then yes I'd say that says something about Bradford. However, thusfar both have had injury problems, worth ethic concerns, off-field problems, and both have done nothing to garner favor from their new coaching staff, so it does not say anything to me that Bradford is currently considered to be above them. I consider it a wake-up call and motivation tool for them more than anything else. You seem to be claiming that Kubiak's moves are bad because some other team has signed these players and must think they are somehow worthy of being on their team, so I wanted to point out many past instances in which players were released or traded and it didn't turn out to be rotten decisions and that simply being signed to a training camp contract during the offseason doesn't mean much of anything. Most of the players I mentioned also "proved" a whole lot more earlier on in their careers than Ragone, Bradford, Gaffney, Wells, etc. and not many people would consider any of those decisions bad.

Umm, you're forgetting the fact that Martz has already said he expects Bradford to be the starter going into the season. Nothing about "wake-up calls" or anything like that. That is just sheer speculation on your part. He didn't say he expected either Rogers or Williams at that position. Again, let me say this: Just be consistent. Don't go around saying that the decision to cut Wells was OK because nobody picked him up but then turn around and say that you can't judge a player move based on if a player has been picked up or not. I personally think Kubiak has made a boatload of bad moves from the start and I can back that up. You can disagree all you want, but please don't try to defend the Wells cut in one way and then turn around and contradict yourself when dealing with guys like Bradford and Ragone. It's disingenuous and as transparent as cellophane to folks who aren't taking big gulps of the Kubiak Kool-Aid.

 

[michaelm]

1.) Whatever you feel or I feel about Bradford, neither of us gets paid to evaluate team personnel. But when the guys who DO get paid cut a guy who goes to a team run by an offensive genius and ends up as a starting WR over two former first-rounders, then you have to wonder about the guys who are getting paid to make these decisions. 2.) Guys in their 30s, especially at WR, begin to lose a step. Moulds has seen many of his #s decrease over the years due to his age. Plus, they paid him a boatload of money. Can you say Matt Maloney? 3.) Kubiak didn't even give him a chance to impress him. He just cut him. And that excuse of "he didn't fit my system" just doesn't cut it. You can use that excuse for any personnel move -- no matter how bad it is. As for left-handed QBs, well, Kenny Stabler wasn't so bad, was he? 4.) Kubiak may make fast decisions, but that certainly doesn't mean they are the correct ones. When he cuts guys like Gaffney, Bradford, Wells and Ragone and replaces them with questionable replacements, you might call that acting in haste to simply put his own stamp on the team rather than "not messing around." 5,) You are putting way, way too much trust in a guy who has never been a head coach on any major level whatsoever. Check your recipe for Kubiak Kool-Aid and if you look real closely, you'll find it is a recipe for disaster.

1) Bradford starting over two first rounders? Sure two first rounders who haven't done squat, even in comparison to Corey Bradford? Plus, IMO he won't be the starter long, if he even is at all.
p.s. Sherman had Bradford in GB... I think he's got the edge in the 411 dept.

2) Moulds has seen his #s decrease more due to poor QB play than any other factor IMO and I believe he will prove his worth for 2-4 seasons. Matt Maloney? Please, Maloney never had the production that Moulds has had... bad comparison I think.

3) From what I understand, Ragonne just isn't as mobile as Kubiak wants for his system. I think you can judge that facet of a players game by watching film.

4) Sadly, time may vindicate you on this one despite your previously poor arguments. I won't try and predict the future on this one. I think he has done well, but only time will tell.

5) Maybe you're right that people are putting too much trust in Kubiak, but it's not as if we have a choice. It is what it is. Besides, there's nothing wrong with a little hope is there?

BTW, your Kool Aid recipe for disater comment was so sweet you could write for the Chronicle... sorry, but that's no compliment.

 

[mikoto]

I don't understand the argument here.
Every year, every team cuts players that find roles on other teams.
Big deal.

I am not giving Kubiak a free pass, it is just that we have to evaluate him before making judgment. That evaluation will come during regular season games. Until then we have no information to go on, just wild speculation and baseless cheering and doomsaying.

Actually, the fact that we are cutting some players that are actually more or less attractive to other actual professional teams could be viewed as a positive sign. It could mean that we have more talented players than the ones we have cut. It could also mean that we have made some mistakes. Every year teams make personell mistakes, and the same teams make some good decisions, just the nature of the biz. We can only hope that the good outweighs the bad. Point is, we won't know the consequences till probably mid to late October when our team has had time to play a bit and gel.

I will concede this, however. Bradford's promotion does give me pause. It gives me pause because he enjoyed relatively little success before landing with the Texans and certainly looked like a big nothing here, so what gives in detroit? Maybe Martz can get something out of him. If so, Kuddos to him because no one else could. More likely, he is a fire under certain underachieving recievers they have spent a fortune on up there. In any case, we never got anything out of him, so I can't get too broken up about it.

Just trying to interject a little sanity

 

[michaelm]

Martz has been a head coach in this league for awhile -- Kubiak hasn't.

Sherman has been a HC and GM, had Bradford on his team during the time he held the HC/GM positions, has delt with Bradford personally and professionally and was the HC/GM when Bradford was allowed to walk in GB.
Sherman trumps Martz, end of argument. Martz is also a semi-freaking wacko. please stop with this line of logic. NEXT!!!

 

[Brandon420tx]

Umm, you're forgetting the fact that Martz has already said he expects Bradford to be the starter going into the season. Nothing about "wake-up calls" or anything like that. That is just sheer speculation on your part. He didn't say he expected either Rogers or Williams at that position. Again, let me say this: Just be consistent. Don't go around saying that the decision to cut Wells was OK because nobody picked him up but then turn around and say that you can't judge a player move based on if a player has been picked up or not. I personally think Kubiak has made a boatload of bad moves from the start and I can back that up. You can disagree all you want, but please don't try to defend the Wells cut in one way and then turn around and contradict yourself when dealing with guys like Bradford and Ragone. It's disingenuous and as transparent as cellophane to folks who aren't taking big gulps of the Kubiak Kool-Aid.

I've never read that Martz expects Bradford to be the starter going into the season, Link Please?

Also, what was the time frame from when Bradford got cut, to him signing with the Lions?

Since you seem so educated in this prospect I thought you could fill us in a little with the facts.

 

[TexanFan881]

Also, what was the time frame from when Bradford got cut, to him signing with the Lions?

That's a great point. And also, can you remember how last year Corey was a free agent and nobody signed him? Nobody wanted him, so he came back home. We didn't want him either, so we released him this year.

 

[MorKnolle]

Umm, you're forgetting the fact that Martz has already said he expects Bradford to be the starter going into the season. Nothing about "wake-up calls" or anything like that. That is just sheer speculation on your part. He didn't say he expected either Rogers or Williams at that position. Again, let me say this: Just be consistent. Don't go around saying that the decision to cut Wells was OK because nobody picked him up but then turn around and say that you can't judge a player move based on if a player has been picked up or not. I personally think Kubiak has made a boatload of bad moves from the start and I can back that up. You can disagree all you want, but please don't try to defend the Wells cut in one way and then turn around and contradict yourself when dealing with guys like Bradford and Ragone. It's disingenuous and as transparent as cellophane to folks who aren't taking big gulps of the Kubiak Kool-Aid.

I have not been the one saying it was ok to cut Wells just because no one else has picked him up, I have been one of the ones giving legitimate reasons as to why he was not worth keeping around. You are the one who has not been at all consistent with your arguments.

 

[michaelm]

I am putting all of this arguing over Bradford nonsense behind me personally.
I'm all for giving guys a shot, but the dude has been in the league for 8 freakin' years, played on a Superbowl team in '98 under a hall of fame QB for four years in a prolific passing offense and has managed to rack up stats like this:

3182 total career yards giving him a 397.95yd avg. per year

25 total tds or 3.125tds per year


IN 8 YEARS! You've just got to be bored or very valiant to choose to argue this guy's case as someone who shouldn't be released.

His best year ever was 697yds and 6tds. Good God Kubiak!!! What have you done???

 

[Wolf]

1) I personally think that Martz is a good offensive coach yet he overthinks the game (i.e. super bowl second half he goes away from Faulk) ..yet I also think Martz is a better OC than head coach..please talk all you want about martz and the Rams ,,...it was Vermeil who got them built up..

as far as Bradford..we had 4 years of him. he isn't a #2 WR.. if we were such a threat...why couldn't we get AJ open?

and yes the OL was horrible..

 

[Wolf]

At one time, Martz was an inexperienced coach -- just like Kubiak -- and was on Kubiak's level. Well, now he has achieved some wins and playoff appearances -- something Kubiak not only hasn't done but hasn't even been head coach of a Pop Warner team! How can you even begin to compare the acumen of someone like Martz with a neophyte like Kubiak? So, to connect the loose ends, when an experienced head coach offensive guru like Martz takes a guy cut by the inexperienced first-year head coach and makes him the #2 WR ahead of two first-round choices, you should realistically start to wonder if the neophyte may have missed something.

yeah he rode Vermeil's coattail... he didn't inherit a 2-14 team.

 

[bayoudreamn]

It very well could be. They could have kept Gaffney for cheap rather than spending all that money on a guy whose #s are dropping and is way past his prime. I simply don't think the Texans gained a thing when they let Gaffney and Bradford go and, as the other NFL teams have shown (if that means anything) they might have taken a step backward. I think Kubiak's personnel moves have been rather puzzling and mystifying at this point, especially regarding Wells, Ragone, Gaffney and Bradford. I will say that I wasn't all that happy with Bradford, but it should be disconcerting when a team grabs your guy and put him ahead of two guys that they burned #1 draft choices on. Perhaps they are seeing something Kubiak isn't.

Even if Moulds is past his prime he knows the game and he has performed on a Pro Bowl level. If nothing else, he's a great addition for leadership. I can't imagine anyone respecting tutelage from Bradfore or Gaffney. What leadership have they shown?

 

[Bobo]

yeah he rode Vermeil's coattail... he didn't inherit a 2-14 team.

Scoreboard.

 

[Bobo]

Even if Moulds is past his prime he knows the game and he has performed on a Pro Bowl level. If nothing else, he's a great addition for leadership. I can't imagine anyone respecting tutelage from Bradfore or Gaffney. What leadership have they shown?

Moulds and his last Pro Bowl appearance are separated by a lot of time. And why don't you ask the Buffalo front office what "leadership" Moulds showed last year? If you are looking to Moulds for leadership, you'd better look elsewhere. Moulds looks after his and his own, as shown when he took himself out of the game against Miami because he didn't catch a pass and ended up suspended. Fine leadership ability displayed there. And he does it for a lot more money than Gaffney or Bradford would have, that's for sure.

 

[michaelm]

Even if Moulds is past his prime he knows the game and he has performed on a Pro Bowl level. If nothing else, he's a great addition for leadership. I can't imagine anyone respecting tutelage from Bradford or Gaffney. What leadership have they shown?

I just looked at Mould stats. He has only been in the league 2 more seasons than Bradford, and over the time since they have both been in the league together('98-2006) Moulds has had more yards in every single season than Bradford has EVER had in a season.
Bradford's best year 697yds
Moulds WORST year since '98 is 780 in 2003

Any comparison between these two players is just insane... there is no comparison, and I'll live with the fact that moulds is 2 years older. He will be in the league when Bradford is cleaning windshields.

 

[bayoudreamn]

Moulds and his last Pro Bowl appearance are separated by a lot of time. And why don't you ask the Buffalo front office what "leadership" Moulds showed last year? If you are looking to Moulds for leadership, you'd better look elsewhere. Moulds looks after his and his own, as shown when he took himself out of the game against Miami because he didn't catch a pass and ended up suspended. Fine leadership ability displayed there. And he does it for a lot more money than Gaffney or Bradford would have, that's for sure.

I would argue with you, but I can't find any information or Bradford or Gaffney's last Pro Bowl.

 

[michaelm]

I would argue with you, but I can't find any information or Bradford or Gaffney's last Pro Bowl.

Freakin' hilarious...!

 

[Bobo]

I would argue with you, but I can't find any information or Bradford or Gaffney's last Pro Bowl.

Jerry Rice was in several Pro Bowls. Would you rather have him?

 

[Bobo]

I just looked at Mould stats. He has only been in the league 2 more seasons than Bradford, and over the time since they have both been in the league together('98-2006) Moulds has had more yards in every single season than Bradford has EVER had in a season.
Bradford's best year 697yds
Moulds WORST year since '98 is 780 in 2003

Any comparison between these two players is just insane... there is no comparison, and I'll live with the fact that moulds is 2 years older. He will be in the league when Bradford is cleaning windshields.

You're right. There is no comparison. Moulds played on much better teams than Bradford did with the Texans. Problem is, Moulds's numbers are slipping and he is several years removed from his Pro Bowl appearance. That and he is costing a boatload of money more than Gaffney and Bradford combined. Throw in the dirty little fact that Moulds was suspended last year because he took himself out of a game because he didn't catch a pass against Miami, well, you are indeed right. There is no comparison.

 

[michaelm]

I just looked at Mould stats. He has only been in the league 2 more seasons than Bradford, and over the time since they have both been in the league together('98-2006) Moulds has had more yards in every single season than Bradford has EVER had in a season.
Bradford's best year 697yds
Moulds WORST year since '98 is 780 in 2003

Any comparison between these two players is just insane... there is no comparison, and I'll live with the fact that moulds is 2 years older. He will be in the league when Bradford is cleaning windshields.

Adding to this post, lets look at the stats of Bradford and Moulds heads up.

Over the first 8 seasons of their careers:
Moulds - 7237 yds
Bradford -3182yds

And if you look at the last 8 seasons (when they were both in the league), Moulds' advantage is even greater with 8523yds vs 3182.
Also consider the 48td to 25td careers total advantage that Moulds has.

This is getting laughable.

BOBO, please stop trying to defend this comparison. You are destroying any shred of credibility you might hope to have. I will take the extra two years of mileage for a stat advantage that is incredibly lopsided.

 

[Bobo]

Adding to this post, lets look at the stats of Bradford and Moulds heads up.

Over the first 8 seasons of their careers:
Moulds - 7237 yds
Bradford -3182yds

And if you look at the last 8 seasons (when they were both in the league), Moulds' advantage is even greater with 8523yds vs 3182.
Also consider the 48td to 25td careers total advantage that Moulds has.

This is getting laughable.

BOBO, please stop trying to defend this comparison. You are destroying any shred of credibility you might hope to have. I will take the extra two years of mileage for a stat advantage that is incredibly lopsided.

You're right. This is getting laughable. You are talking about what went on eight years ago. This is 2006, not the 90s. And I haven't heard one word or peep from anyone on this board regarding Moulds out and out quitting in the Miami game and pulling a Terrell Owens. And this is the guy the Texans paid a boatload of money for? Yeah, it would be laughable -- if it wasn't so sad.

 

[michaelm]

You're right. There is no comparison. Moulds played on much better teams than Bradford did with the Texans. Problem is, Moulds's numbers are slipping and he is several years removed from his Pro Bowl appearance. That and he is costing a boatload of money more than Gaffney and Bradford combined. Throw in the dirty little fact that Moulds was suspended last year because he took himself out of a game because he didn't catch a pass against Miami, well, you are indeed right. There is no comparison.

haha... Moulds didn't spend HALF of his career catching passes from Brett Favre on a Superbowl caliber team.
Moulds never played a single season on a Superbowl caliber team.
Moulds played on teams whose season leading passers include:

Todd Collins - 1997
Doug Flutie - 98-99
Rob Johnson - 2000
Alex Van Pelt - 2001
Kelly Holcolm - 2005

and Drew Bledsoe(2003) when Bledsoe trew only 11 tds w/ 12 ints in 16 games.

He also played 13 games with JP Losman...

Please stop, I don't feel like beating you down on this comparison any more.

 

[Wolf]

You're right. This is getting laughable. You are talking about what went on eight years ago. This is 2006, not the 90s. And I haven't heard one word or peep from anyone on this board regarding Moulds out and out quitting in the Miami game and pulling a Terrell Owens. And this is the guy the Texans paid a boatload of money for? Yeah, it would be laughable -- if it wasn't so sad.

this is what I have found on moulds

Hello again my faithful followers, it is the master, Roscoe, here again to give the best sports information in the free world. The Buffalo Bills sunk to new depths this past weekend, but rock bottom is still coming. Three weeks still remain for Buffalo to prove just how bad they really are. The players appear to be quitting on the coach, but in reality it was the coach who first quit on the players.

Mularkey was laughing and giggling like a little schoolgirl, when the Bills scored three first quarter touchdowns against Miami. Later when he called for a pass on first and goal from the three-yard line, which resulted in an interception, Eric Moulds had enough. Basically Mularkey quit coaching the game…he was trying to get JP another passing touchdown, he was trying to get some more giggles and smiles to show just how smart he is. He wanted to laugh it up on the sidelines, but instead lost the game.

He quit coaching. Bottom line is the team knew that was stupid, and Moulds as the teams elder statesman, had to send a message. Basically, if the coach didn’t care about what was going on why should he? Mularkey actually quit on the team, now the team is going to quit on him

http://buffalobeast.com/90/wideright90.htm

 

[Wolf]

* “I don’t know if the other guys quit on the play, but I was always taught when I came here with Marv Levy that you don’t stop fighting. Guys like Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed and Bruce Smith always showed me that you don’t stop no matter what the score is because that uniform you’ve got on is bigger than your name.”
“I don’t know if guys realize that. Maybe I did a poor job of letting them know that. I think I have to bring up the fact that there were great players here that played before (them) and (they)’ve got to respect those uniforms.” Press conference October 24, 2004

hmm does this sound like a leader?
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Moulds

 

[Brandon420tx]

You're right. This is getting laughable. You are talking about what went on eight years ago. This is 2006, not the 90s. And I haven't heard one word or peep from anyone on this board regarding Moulds out and out quitting in the Miami game and pulling a Terrell Owens. And this is the guy the Texans paid a boatload of money for? Yeah, it would be laughable -- if it wasn't so sad.

For one, this is my first time hearing it, For two, I believe that the Bills and Moulds were not on happy terms. Before you say "What happens when Moulds and the Texans are not on happy terms?" I will answer, We'll put Walters or our new rookie at number 2, yes, starting a rookie does happen, and Moulds will either try to work it out with the organization or seek new employement, but as of now, Moulds and the Texans ARE on happy terms, and if that continues, he won't be sitting out any games, unless his overwieght gut and scrawny arms get injured. Dude is built.... does he ever feel pain? He's in better shape than most 3 year NFL players.

 

[michaelm]

You're right. This is getting laughable. You are talking about what went on eight years ago. This is 2006, not the 90s. And I haven't heard one word or peep from anyone on this board regarding Moulds out and out quitting in the Miami game and pulling a Terrell Owens. And this is the guy the Texans paid a boatload of money for? Yeah, it would be laughable -- if it wasn't so sad.

No, the stas I gave include both players 1st 8 years, ans also I gave the last 8 years since 1998 when Bradford entered the leauge.

 

[Bobo]

For one, this is my first time hearing it, For two, I believe that the Bills and Moulds were not on happy terms.

Uh, yeah, I would imagine that when a guy sulks like Terrell Owens and takes himself out of the game because he failed to continue a personal record ... yeah, I would imagine the team might be a bit peeved with him and suspend his butt for being a quitter. But never fear! Houston has dealt out a boatload of money for that fine, outstanding character of a team player and come time to play Dallas, the Houston Texans can be assured that they will be able to compete with Owens in at least one facet of the game!

 

[Bobo]

No, the stas I gave include both players 1st 8 years, ans also I gave the last 8 years since 1998 when Bradford entered the leauge.

This is 2006, not eight years ago. And one is a proven quitter who is being paid a boatload of money -- the other isn't.

 

[Brandon420tx]

This is 2006, not eight years ago. And one is a proven quitter who is being paid a boatload of money -- the other isn't.

One has excelled, the other hasn't.

 

[Brandon420tx]

But never fear! Houston has dealt out a boatload of money for that fine, outstanding character of a team player

And I couldn't be happier.

 

[michaelm]

And I haven't heard one word or peep from anyone on this board regarding Moulds out and out quitting in the Miami game

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Originally Posted by Bobo
You're right. This is getting laughable. You are talking about what went on eight years ago. This is 2006, not the 90s. And I haven't heard one word or peep from anyone on this board regarding Moulds out and out quitting in the Miami game and pulling a Terrell Owens. And this is the guy the Texans paid a boatload of money for? Yeah, it would be laughable -- if it wasn't so sad.


this is what I have found on moulds


Quote:
Hello again my faithful followers, it is the master, Roscoe, here again to give the best sports information in the free world. The Buffalo Bills sunk to new depths this past weekend, but rock bottom is still coming. Three weeks still remain for Buffalo to prove just how bad they really are. The players appear to be quitting on the coach, but in reality it was the coach who first quit on the players.

Mularkey was laughing and giggling like a little schoolgirl, when the Bills scored three first quarter touchdowns against Miami. Later when he called for a pass on first and goal from the three-yard line, which resulted in an interception, Eric Moulds had enough. Basically Mularkey quit coaching the game…he was trying to get JP another passing touchdown, he was trying to get some more giggles and smiles to show just how smart he is. He wanted to laugh it up on the sidelines, but instead lost the game.

He quit coaching. Bottom line is the team knew that was stupid, and Moulds as the teams elder statesman, had to send a message. Basically, if the coach didn’t care about what was going on why should he? Mularkey actually quit on the team, now the team is going to quit on him

http://buffalobeast.com/90/wideright90.htm

hahaha... PEEP
__________________

 

[Bobo]

hmm does this sound like a leader?
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Moulds

And then along came that fateful day vs. Miami ... the birth of the quitter.

 

[michaelm]

This is 2006, not eight years ago. And one is a proven quitter who is being paid a boatload of money -- the other isn't.

I understand that you are getting desperate trying to defend you losing position, but are you daft?
The stats I gave are CAREER stats. They are one of, if not THE most important basis for compaison.
There has never been a single year IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS the Moulds' worst stats weren't better than Bradford's BEST stats. OK, that's not intirely accurate, Moulds first two seasons were meager, but thats 9 and 10 years ago respectivley, and hence, don't matter to you.

 

[Bobo]

One has excelled, the other hasn't.

He excelled. For Buffalo. Years ago. Before he quit.

 

[Brandon420tx]

He excelled. For Buffalo. Years ago. Before he quit.

I exceled for McDonalds, Months ago, Then I quit, does that mean I can't perform somewhere else?

 

[Wolf]

And then along came that fateful day vs. Miami ... the birth of the quitter.

Orchard Park, NY (AHN) - The Buffalo Bills have suspended receiver Eric Moulds without pay, reportedly for a sideline dispute with an assistant coach during last week's game with Miami.

The suspension will keep him playing in Sunday's game against the New England Patriots, reports ESPN.com.

"Eric hasn't practiced this week so he won't be ready to play Sunday. He is suspended for one game without pay," owner Ralph Wilson said Thursday after a meeting with Moulds and head coach Mike Mularkey.

"From there on, he'll be back and will play the final three games of the season, which I hope we'll do better than we have so far."

Moulds was banned from practice the last two days. The punishment is believed to stem from an argument between the player and receivers coach Tyke Tolbert during Buffalo's 24-23 loss at Miami.

Greg Johnson, the player's adviser, said the dispute happened when Moulds left the field after experiencing pain in his Achilles' tendon. Moulds wanted to have the tendon examined by a trainer when Tolbert asked Moulds to get back on the field, Johnson said. Moulds refused and was benched for most of the final three quarters, reports ESPN.com

http://eric-moulds-news.newslib.com/story/6187-3091322/

 

[Bobo]

I understand that you are getting desperate trying to defend you losing position, but are you daft?
The stats I gave are CAREER stats. They are one of, if not THE most important basis for compaison.
There has never been a single year IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS the Moulds' worst stats weren't better than Bradford's BEST stats. OK, that's not intirely accurate, Moulds first two seasons were meager, but thats 9 and 10 years ago respectivley, and hence, don't matter to you.

How is what happened 8 years ago relevant to 2006? As I recall, there's no such thing as retroactive TDs. And those stats by Moulds were collected during his younger years on teams that were better than the Texans, so I don't see how those stats are relevant at all for 2006. That and the fact that Moulds quit on his team and the coaching staff causes me to wonder why they are paying him all that money.

 

[Wolf]

and so was bradford's stats

spindoctor

 

[Bobo]

I exceled for McDonalds, Months ago, Then I quit, does that mean I can't perform somewhere else?

I guess two places will take quitters -- McDonalds and the Texans.

 

[Wolf]

In an interview Friday morning with "The Howard Simon Show," Eric Moulds said Ralph Wilson suspended him for a number of reasons, even though the Bills owner didn't want a suspension for the star wide-out.

"He and I just talked about everything that had happened," Moulds said of Thursday's one-on-one interview with Wilson. "Actually, he wanted me to play, but at the same time we both felt that I didn't practice the whole week, so it wouldn't be fair to my teammates for me to go and play this Sunday. We kind of used the rule that if you don't practice, you don't play that week."

When asked by Simon about Sunday's game and his much-debated time out of the game, Moulds said it was a result of miscommunication with receivers coach Tyke Tolbert regarding the planned playing time of Sam Aiken.

Moulds said there are a number of personnel decisions he has opinions on, but recognizes his role on the team.

"I feel like Sam Adams should be playing," he said. "He's a heck of a player, but at the same time it's not really my decision and I support my teammates much more than anything because those are the guys on the field going to battle with me every week."

Moulds said his teammates back him in everything that is going on, adding "I told Lee (Evans) and all the other receivers and all the other guys that they have to go and play hard... I don't want to be a distraction."

http://eric-moulds-news.newslib.com/story/6187-3091323/

from the link you can hear the interview

 

[Wolf]

I guess two places will take quitters -- McDonalds and the Texans.

you can add A.A. to that list

 

[Brandon420tx]

How is what happened 8 years ago relevant to 2006? As I recall, there's no such thing as retroactive TDs. And those stats by Moulds were collected during his younger years on teams that were better than the Texans, so I don't see how those stats are relevant at all for 2006. That and the fact that Moulds quit on his team and the coaching staff causes me to wonder why they are paying him all that money.

So, are you saying stats should have no factor in signing a player? Then I should try out for the Texans team! I almost blocked a fieldgoal once! I would be concerned about Moulds being suspended 1 game if he got angry and didn't continue to play for the team for the rest of the season... Oh good he did, nothing to worry about then, wasn't there an injury involved somewhere too? Oh, Wolf posted it good, so the arguement was about Moulds wanting to check a potential injury before going out on the field, thats understandable, as you said Bobo, he's getting on in his years... oh since you did bring up this other name, How long did Jerry Rice play NFL?

 

[michaelm]

And then along came that fateful day vs. Miami ... the birth of the quitter.

The last bastion of defense for your position on this matter, like the Japanese on Okinawa in 1945...

 

[Brandon420tx]

I guess two places will take quitters -- McDonalds and the Texans.

Har Har, who said McDonalds will take quitters? You don't even know the details of why I quit in the first place, but since your sooo interested let me bore you. I quit McDonalds so I could focus on my final year of High School, my grades were falling steadily as I grew more tired with Theatre + Work + Homework, I was exhausted and had very little free time to myself, thats why I quit, now that I've graduated and have been accepted to a state university, I'm currently employed at Auto-Zone, stocking parts and helping customers. So ends my happy tale.

So, when is Moulds going to write his own Auto-biography?

BTW, I loved the personal attack, it shows your getting frustrated.

 

[Bobo]

So, are you saying stats should have no factor in signing a player? Then I should try out for the Texans team! I almost blocked a fieldgoal once! I would be concerned about Moulds being suspended 1 game if he got angry and didn't continue to play for the team for the rest of the season... Oh good he did, nothing to worry about then, wasn't there an injury involved somewhere too? Oh, Wolf posted it good, so the arguement was about Moulds wanting to check a potential injury before going out on the field, thats understandable, as you said Bobo, he's getting on in his years... oh since you did bring up this other name, How long did Jerry Rice play NFL?

If stats collected back into the 90s are the telling factor, go out and sign Jerry Rice. I hear he'd love to play again. As for Moulds, he is a proven quitter. As far as the quote goes, Johnson is ... now get this ... Moulds's "personal adviser." You think he just might try to put his boss in the best light and try to hide an obvious bad situation? I guess that means there was a conspiracy against Moulds where everybody was the ogre, ordering him back onto the field when he was hurt and Moulds refusing to go back on, so he was suspended. Yeah, right. Another conspiracy theory. It amazes me how folks just refuse to look at the facts and try everything to put their favorites in the best light possible, despite the fact that he was suspended for "conduct detrimental to the team."

 

[Brandon420tx]

If stats collected back into the 90s are the telling factor, go out and sign Jerry Rice. I hear he'd love to play again. As for Moulds, he is a proven quitter. As far as the quote goes, Johnson is ... now get this ... Moulds's "personal adviser." You think he just might try to put his boss in the best light and try to hide an obvious bad situation? I guess that means there was a conspiracy against Moulds where everybody was the ogre, ordering him back onto the field when he was hurt and Moulds refusing to go back on, so he was suspended. Yeah, right. Another conspiracy theory. It amazes me how folks just refuse to look at the facts and try everything to put their favorites in the best light possible, despite the fact that he was suspended for "conduct detrimental to the team."

Is Rice really wanting to play again!? I'd LOVE to have him in houston.

Facts? He posted a link off the internet, we all have the same "facts" available to them, because its the internet, you can put anything on it and people will believe it. Its just like stats, you can always groom them to look the way you want them to.

 

[Bobo]

Har Har, who said McDonalds will take quitters? You don't even know the details of why I quit in the first place, but since your sooo interested let me bore you. I quit McDonalds so I could focus on my final year of High School, my grades were falling steadily as I grew more tired with Theatre + Work + Homework, I was exhausted and had very little free time to myself, thats why I quit, now that I've graduated and have been accepted to a state university, I'm currently employed at Auto-Zone, stocking parts and helping customers. So ends my happy tale.

So, when is Moulds going to write his own Auto-biography?

BTW, I loved the personal attack, it shows your getting frustrated.

Facts are facts. Moulds quit during a game and got suspended for "conduct detrimental to the team." And as far as your work history is concerned, I really, really don't care.

 

[Bobo]

Is Rice really wanting to play again!? I'd LOVE to have him in houston.

Well, he's available. I think Lance Alworth might be available too. Along with Kenny Stabler, Emmitt Smith and Dan Pastorini.

 

[Brandon420tx]

Well, he's available. I think Lance Alworth might be available too. Along with Kenny Stabler, Emmitt Smith and Dan Pastorini.

Sry, Rice is my favorate reciever of football history, I don't really care about the others ... EWW I see a Cowboy! jk Emmitt da man

 

[Bobo]

Sry, Rice is my favorate reciever of football history, I don't really care about the others ... EWW I see a Cowboy! jk Emmitt da man

The Thread Killer strikes again!

 

[michaelm]

Oh, but BOBO, his suspension was in the past...
But if that past is recent enough for you, then you cannot argue with me citing the stats that Moulds had in the three games AFTER his suspension...

3 game total;

27 catches for 305yds...
Those are the three most recent games the old man played in... sure he didn't catch a TD, but then again he wasn't catching passes from David Carr (I know you won't take issue on the Carr thing because I know that you support him... the ONLY thing I think you and I agree on).


Don't tell me you won't take 101yd per game average from our #2 WR...