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Jadeveon Clowney playing with bone spurs

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Just read that he was stepped on in last week game against Georgia.

It will require off-season surgery, and it was indicated that the timing probably won't allow enough time for him to heal for the combine.

It was also reported that he's playing with pain.

By playing hurt, does he have a chance to further aggravate the injury?
Will it enhance the chance if him incurring another injury?

Is it a smart decision to even play him?
 
So is it injury, or effort?

Did he quit on his team? Or does he require sugery?

It was evident during the 2013 season opener against North Carolina that Clowney's conditioning was subpar. His snap count didn't warrant him being as tired as he was and he clearly took some plays off. Sources told WalterFootball.com Clowney lacked a good work ethic in his conditioning and took a significant amount of plays off last year. However after the opener, Clowney's effort and conditioning was a lot better the rest of the season after he took some criticism.
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Clowney has totaled 35 tackles, three sacks, 10.5 tackles for a loss, two passes defended and a forced fumble in 2013.
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The 6-foot-6, 272-pounder has the athletic talent to be a special player. The scary part is how good he could be if he develops an inner drive and a work ethic.
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http://walterfootball.com/draft2014charlie.php
 
Vinny said:
Mario, is that you?
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There's an NFL coach -- I want to say Herm Edwards, but not sure -- who has a great philosophy about seeing what is...

Fat guys stay fat,
Injured guys get injured,
Lazy guys stay lazy.

Players "tell" you who they are... teams(NFL) don't always listen.
 
He had 13 sacks and 23.5 TFL as a sophomore . That's the year everyone was drooling about . If I went with Clowney , I'd put him in JJs hip pocket .
 
I'm calling on Cloak to chime in on his opinion of bone spurs, yes I could google it but it's harder to find when what I want is the future performance of athletes. From what little I know I think it should be a non- issue, I'm more concerned with work ethic and the love of the game. We don't need to draft a Hainsworth.
 
pirbroke said:
I'm calling on Cloak to chime in on his opinion of bone spurs, yes I could google it but it's harder to find when what I want is the future performance of athletes. From what little I know I think it should be a non- issue, I'm more concerned with work ethic and the love of the game. We don't need to draft a Hainsworth.
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It's a non issue. And maybe just maybe that contributed to his perceived lack of effort at times. I personally think all that has been overhyped. His stats have suffered (compared to last year) more because of teams game planning against him than lack of effort or lack of love for the game.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Who was that ?

The Texans kept parading Walter out there to block . Besides Jacoby did ok once he left .
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Jacoby really didn't though. Look at his numbers as a receiver and they are still very pedestrian. The Ravens have needed a lot of help at receiver and he has yet to give what they need. He gets a KR and a big play every now and then and people tend to focus on that and remember just that. However, he is still a horrible route runner and is very inconsistent.
 
Jadeveon Clowney stopped, cited with going 110 in a 70

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) -
The South Carolina Highway Patrol says they saw Jadeveon Clowney coming -- perhaps a bit too quickly -- and promptly cited the Gamecocks star defensive end with going 110 MPH in a 70 MPH zone.

Troopers say Clowney was pulled over in a Chrysler 300 around 7:30 p.m. Saturday night on Interstate 77 near mile marker 39.

Officials say he was immediately ticketed for $355, but not arrested in the stop.

According to state law, Clowney could have been imprisoned for not more than 30 days for the violation since he was driving 25 miles per hour over the speed limit...
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Man, there is so much bad press about this dude from his coaching staff, his school, and other media outlets all over the place. I mean, this guy was touted as a guy that the media really wanted to consider for a Heisman candidate, and he totally did not show up this season with all of the extra hype and media attention. It seems like so much of it went to his head and he has underperformed a lot. That doesn't seem like a gamer to me.

And after what this franchise experienced with Mario Williams, I just can't fathom why people want him over here when we already have our J.J. Watt. Of course I'd love to have another guy like that and all, but Clowney clearly isn't the same type of guy mentally. They are not cut from the same cloth. Clowney seems way to entitled already. Every time I see a guy go into the draft that is described as a guy who takes plays off and isn't always into the game, it seems like these guys way underperform from where they were drafted.

I think the Texans can find a guy that's a lot better of a prospect regardless if he isn't as talented. Talent isn't always the end all be all. Character, drive, and motivation are big time intangibles as well that need to be considered.
 
I agree with Tex. I don't know the entire story behind the reason or reasons why he's been a no-show this year, but I've been reading more than one report that it's because he wants to protect himself from getting injured, and becoming the next Marcus Lattimore.

That rubs me the wrong way.
 
Marcus said:
I agree with Tex. I don't know the entire story behind the reason or reasons why he's been a no-show this year, but I've been reading more than one report that it's because he wants to protect himself from getting injured, and becoming the next Marcus Lattimore.

That rubs me the wrong way.
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Man, there is so many things being said about that guy. Saying he walks around with this entourage, that he takes plays off, that he has worn out his welcome on his own team with the coaching staff, and etc. The list goes on and on. After having a guy like Mario and seeing his lack of effort for years, I think most teams would be nuts to draft Clowney in the top 10 to 15 picks.
 
He'll probably still get drafted fairly high, but hopefully not by the Texans. If we could pick him up in the 4th round or later I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him that way.
 
Thorn said:
He'll probably still get drafted fairly high, but hopefully not by the Texans. If we could pick him up in the 4th round or later I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him that way.
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4th round? You kidding me? He has 1st round Dallas Jerry's written all over him.
 
It's now just silly for anyone to think the Texans will still draft Clowney with the type of red flags he has. How many players have we seen who have all the talent but don't have it between the ears? It happens every year. Throw in that he has an entourage and got caught going 110. I think it's a lock that Houston doesn't take him especially after the behavioral cuts the Texans had to make this season.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Who was that ?

The Texans kept parading Walter out there to block . Besides Jacoby did ok once he left .
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who remembers all the stories about keshawn martin, lestar jean, and devier posey learning from andre? dwight jones will come here and do well because andre will set him straight. jerome mathis. david anderson. jacoby. andre davis. kevin walter. eric moulds.
 
bOODRO87 said:
It's now just silly for anyone to think the Texans will still draft Clowney with the type of red flags he has. How many players have we seen who have all the talent but don't have it between the ears? It happens every year. Throw in that he has an entourage and got caught going 110. I think it's a lock that Houston doesn't take him especially after the behavioral cuts the Texans had to make this season.
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You are probably right and I hope that you are. Depending on who the coach is though, things could possibly change. What if Mcnair hires a guy that doesn't want just boy scouts like Kubiak did? I doubt that would happen, but it's possible.
 
Texecutioner said:
You are probably right and I hope that you are. Depending on who the coach is though, things could possibly change. What if Mcnair hires a guy that doesn't want just boy scouts like Kubiak did? I doubt that would happen, but it's possible.
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Its McNair who wants the boy scout image ...:kitten:
 
Dutchrudder said:
Yep, which is why Clowney is off the board for us. Teddy is a good kid, and has zero character concerns. He will be the pick.
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Sad but true and hopefully when Bridgewater isn't as good as everybody thinks he is Rick gets fired for this decision. In half a decade or so.
 
bOODRO87 said:
It's now just silly for anyone to think the Texans will still draft Clowney with the type of red flags he has. How many players have we seen who have all the talent but don't have it between the ears? It happens every year. Throw in that he has an entourage and got caught going 110. I think it's a lock that Houston doesn't take him especially after the behavioral cuts the Texans had to make this season.
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This is total bull****. First off, speeding is a reason not to draft someone? And this entourage crap, where is it coming from? Someone, anyone please post a credible link that actually has detail about this subject. There is none. And Please find one public statement from any of his coaches about his so called worn out welcome.

And these so called front office men who have leaked this crap, how much you want to bet they are praying he falls to them?
 
mussop said:
This is total bull****. First off, speeding is a reason not to draft someone? And this entourage crap, where is it coming from? Someone, anyone please post a credible link that actually has detail about this subject. There is none. And Please find one public statement from any of his coaches about his so called worn out welcome.

And these so called front office men who have leaked this crap, how much you want to bet they are praying he falls to them?
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Junior DE Jadeveon Clowney has "worn out his welcome" at South Carolina, according to Dan Pompei.
"It has been well documented that Clowney plays and practices only when he feels like it," Pompei writes. "Other red flags with Clowney, according to multiple front-office men, are his unusual family situation, his entourage, his inconsistent work ethic and the fact that he has worn out his welcome at South Carolina. Some suspect he is motivated strictly by money, and a big payday could leave him too satisfied." These are strong words, and we will likely hear a lot more about the monstrous defensive end throughout the draft process. This, however, is the first instance of Clowney's family and entourage being questioned. Dec 6 - 1:20 PM
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Take from it what you will. I'm well aware of the credibility of the source. However, he didn't have a phenomenal year so I don't believe FO men are putting out these red flags to have him drop. I think these rumors are enough for the Texans to let someone else find out if he's worth it. In my worthless opinion, I think there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future.
 
bOODRO87 said:
Take from it what you will. I'm well aware of the credibility of the source. However, he didn't have a phenomenal year so I don't believe FO men are putting out these red flags to have him drop. I think these rumors are enough for the Texans to let someone else find out if he's worth it. In my worthless opinion, I think there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future.
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You should tell us how he's lazy and shiftless, or 'too hip-hop.'
 
bhsman said:
You should tell us how he's lazy and shiftless, or 'too hip-hop.'
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I find it hilarious that we see players get in trouble every year because they can't get away from the hood or their childhood friends/bad-influencing family members but yet so many on here are willing to roll the dice with the 1st pick on Clowney. Why even risk it? If he was such a good kid or hard worker, you wouldn't be seeing multiple sites talking about his red flags.
 
bOODRO87 said:
I find it hilarious that we see players get in trouble every year because they can't get away from the hood or their childhood friends/bad-influencing family members but yet so many on here are willing to roll the dice with the 1st pick on Clowney. Why even risk it? If he was such a good kid or hard worker, you wouldn't be seeing multiple sites talking about his red flags.
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I see a lot of people parroting what they read without a good source and clutching their collective pearls rather than watch the actual tape, and it appears to be no different here.
 
bhsman said:
I see a lot of people parroting what they read without a good source and clutching their collective pearls rather than watch the actual tape, and it appears to be no different here.
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You mean the tape that shows several games where he is ineffective and not playing nearly as hard as he can? His numbers aren't great and he has not had that great of a season. Amazing you would completely blow off so many red flags that have been out there from several sources on top of that. Sounds like the only tape you have watched was the tapes of ESPN fondeling over him at the beginning of the season. He won't ever be a Texan anyway. I'm certain of it at this point.
 
bOODRO87 said:
Take from it what you will. I'm well aware of the credibility of the source. However, he didn't have a phenomenal year so I don't believe FO men are putting out these red flags to have him drop. I think these rumors are enough for the Texans to let someone else find out if he's worth it. In my worthless opinion, I think there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future.
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I knew someone would post that Pompeii piece. Because that is the only "source"out there. That same piece has been regurgitated over and over again.

And WTF have you read other than that fluff turd you posted that would make you think "there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future".? Man I have to say, that remark reals of racism.
 
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Texecutioner said:
You mean the tape that shows several games where he is ineffective and not playing nearly as hard as he can? His numbers aren't great and he has not had that great of a season. Amazing you would completely blow off so many red flags that have been out there from several sources on top of that. Sounds like the only tape you have watched was the tapes of ESPN fondeling over him at the beginning of the season. He won't ever be a Texan anyway. I'm certain of it at this point.
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Again, several sources? Care to share them? And this game tape you speak of, please tell me what games.
 
mussop said:
I knew someone would post that Pompeii piece. Because that is the only "source"out there. That same piece has been regurgitated over and over again.

And WTF have you read other than that fluff turd you posted that would make you think "there's a good chance Clowney has some hood in him and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he gets popped with drugs or a firearm in the future".? Man I have to say, that remark reals of racism.
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Haha, racism huh? Jesus, dude.. So because I wouldn't want Rolando McClain, Fairley, Pacman, Chris Johnson, or even if he was playing, Aaron H. on the Texans, I'm a racist? I guess my admiration of Bridgewater wasn't true all along! No, all of those guys are idiots who can't lose the mentality or attitude from the crappy people they grew up with. I'm on my phone but I'll be back.

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Still not a racist at 7:50 pm... It's not rocket science to know that some players in the NFL act in a thuggish manner. They like the lifestyle. It's the same as rappers. Do you need a picture? And guess what, it doesn't matter what color your skin is. Like I said, if Clowney got busted for drugs or a firearm like so many players before him, I wouldn't be surprised. This guy is driving 110 mph during the more important time period of his life to keep things cool in order to be guaranteed millions. How am I sounding out of line when this happens all the time? He actually should have been arrested. Yawn, seen it before.
 
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So, in sum: doing 110 on the interstate is the gateway to drugs and illegal possession of firearms, got it.
 
bhsman said:
So, in sum: doing 110 on the interstate is the gateway to drugs and illegal possession of firearms, got it.
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Hey there's ONE "internet"report out there that suggests he has an "entourage". Couple that with the fact that he is black and Obviously the only logical conclusion is that he's a thug that has some hood in him and will no doubt get caught with drugs and an gun at some point.

Signed bOODRO87
 
This thread has become a joke.

Clowney supporters blinded by love of a hit on a RB in 2012, watching the same replay over and over again, telling everyone else they are an idiot if they won't carry his bags for him.

Clowney haters coming up w/ some pretty sketch at best arguments.

And BHSman, you asked me for proof in another thread and I quoted a credible source and you just completely ignored it and took a random shot at me. Get out of here bro.

"GIVE ME A SOURCE! GIVE ME A SOURCE!" Then you get it and you dismiss it. Here's your source bro, let me teach you how to Google, try any of the first 15 links you see from credible websites:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jadaveon+clowney+work+ethic

Clowney does have red flags, but regardless he's too talented to not go in the top 3. The Falcons at (probably) #3 will draft him and I'll bet 4 is the farthest he falls regardless of work ethic or red flags. Talking like he's out of the top 15 or not a day 1 draft pick is just asinine though.

As for character concerns because he was speeding, that is a joke. C'mon guys. Were you never 20 years old? I drove a piece of garbage car 100 miles an hour when I was 20 with friends because I was stupid, not because I had character problems.
 
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