Its Time - Charley Needs To Be Released

[throwANDREtheBALL]

Did someone say that the TEXANS brought in Sage "Booed off Stage" Rosenfels, to PUSH david carr ?

hahhahah.........GOOD ONE.........Trust me, I'm not a David Carr fan in any way, but, I think Sage might be THE one and ONLY QB that can't PUSH David Carr.

That's the only reason that I can see for Casserly/Kubiak/President Bush/WHOEVER ELSE IS SUPPOSEDLY RUNNING THIS TEAM, bringing in the only QB who makes Carr and Ragone look good.

TEXANS picked up sage, to make the CARR hate-ers think their Starting QB is getting better. YEP, he's looking way better than SAGE.

SWEET, our starting QB is a little better than the REALLY BAD backups.

Kubiak to Casserly
"Hey Casserly, now lets go sign Bob 'a little bit better than average' Hallen to a Zach Weigert type contract."

Casserly answers
"OK, good idea Kubes, hey, thanks for letting me keep my job, even if I'm not really doing anything....and thanks for not telling Mcnair that I have absolutely no use to the team now, since I DON'T make ANY decisions anymore. I LOVE MY LIFE! Imagine, I actually had to make a decision again, or own up to my past mistakes.....I think I'd die if I was forced to do either of those."


THIS is FOR that GUY that DIDN'T like MY use OF capitalization IN my POSTS.....if YOU don't WANNA read IT, then DON'T

 

[Erratic Assassin]

Can I ask a dumb question?

Why are you guys jumping all over Casserly when he's just doing what Kubiak is telling him to do?

I realize you're joking, but Casserly will use that excuse (and probably get away with it again) when we're in the same sorry position 3 or 4 years from now.

It's inexcusable for Casserly to lay the blame on his subordinate for "making" him to it. I can't believe McNair let him get away with it. You're in charge Casserly, take responsibility. Nobody made you do anything. You were Capers' boss not the other way around.

 

[chuckm]

Now that Capers/Pendry/..... et al are gone, Casserly is the "whipping boy du jour" .....

does (has) he made questionable decisions? Yep ....

has (did) he made some good decisions? Yep .....

how does his hit/miss ratio on decisions stack up against Mr Average NFL GM? Heck if I know .....

How much of his previous season's decision-making was done in league with Capers .... a fair amount according to what I've heard from "people who should know" McClain, ....

Does he know what he's doing? Does McNair have confidence in him? Is he afraid to make a tough decision? Should he be given the benefit of the doubt now that Kubiak's in place? Yes Yes No Yes IMO

 

[TexasDiehard]

McNair does not fire Casserly and hire a top flight GM with proven talent evaluation skills. Instead, he keeps Casserly and hires a rookie head coach with no personnel evaluation skills to make the calls on free agents. The available cap room is squandered on overpaid nobodys who haven't proved anything in the NFL. What a shock that nothing has changed.

And more than half you knuckleheads want to pass on Vince Young and Reggie Bush to trade down for more picks that this cast of clowns will just piss away as they have every other pick but three since the franchise began. Two of those three (Robinson/Johnson) were top 10, almost no brainer draft picks.

It is amazing how so many on this board so eagerly support this disaster of a franchise and have so quickly accepted the losing mentality that is the direct result of McNair's unbelievably poor decision making. Since when did it become a virtue to slovenly side with losers?

 

[pittbull]

when the inspector comes in and finds the house has roaches, termites, rats, ants, no studs, heck, how is it standing.......burn it down and start fresh with a new foundation....................The Texans need to do the same. Charley Casserly is a MAJOR reason we are in this situation, but McNair loves the guy for whatever reason. Bringing in a new coach only brings in an exterminator, but sooner or later the house will fall.......The organizational foundation is all screwed up!:brickwall

 

[Frills]

http://imdb.com/title/tt0371606/

lessons taught in this movie

 

[cuppacoffee]

Is that a good enough answer

Uh..NO..

My 'sources' close to the team, who shall remain as anonymous as your 'sources', tell me that Carr spends three nights a week at the stadium studying film before each game.

He then stays overnight after the games and studies more film.

After studying film Carr then pumps iron for four hours.

These same 'sources' tell me that Carr also goes out and drinks beer four nights a week with his teammates.

Sources also say they wouldn't be surprised if he decided to separate from his wife and children, in hope that it will make him a better leader and player.

See how easy it is to play the message board game.

I am ..and its time for a refill.

 

[jerek]

Likewise, thats what carr supporters do. Make things up like....
Carr has talent! and....its all the coaching/recievers/line

It is a far more readily verifiable fact that a player's supporting cast makes a significant difference in the individual player's success and W/L, than it is that Carr doesn't spend enough time with the team or spends too much time with his family (which necessarily correlates to him not being a good football player.)

The "family man" argument sucks and does not belong here, period. It is the leading stupid assumption made by most "Carr-haters" in a long line of stupid assumptions. The board is a place for opinion and hell, if that is yours, then it is your right to tout it, but just know that it makes your opinions look really ignorant.

 

[Joe Texan]

You can Assume all you want but I do talk to people who have direct contact. I understand his christian ties but he has a team too. I know the after game comment is a lie. I also have witnessed the after practice actions on some occasions. He used to be respected by his teamates but things have changed. And the little tempertantrums are very unbecoming of a pro football starting QB who makes the money he does. As I have said I am holding him accountable for his paycheck.

 

[Koolbrz]

So, Free Agency has begun......and look whats still happening

Overpaying every single player we bring in.

Anthony Weaver - Decent starter,but, now getting paid like a pro-bowler....for the amount of GUARANTEED money we're gonna give him, we coulda brought in Bentley or some other younger, more PRO-BOWLish player

Sage Rosenfels - WHO ? AND WHY ??????????????????????????????? COME ON

Jameel Cook - 3rd string FB, from TB. At least he can catch balls, I guess that's what Casserly saw in him? Was FB really our top need that we had to get this guy right away, before we spent the money on a GOOD - LT or C or MLB or WR or TE or CB or FS ??????????

Texans TARGETS:
Mike Flanagan - Texans interested in Center who isn't bad at all, but, older, and history of knee problems

Bob Hallen - Texans interested in OG who is scouted as a little better than average........WOO HOO.....lets give him a Wiegert-type contract and get the (franchise) suicide over with.


Honestly....Weaver is a decent signing and fills a hole, but, we overspent.....AGAIN. Sage, well, that was USELESS.......just another STEP back. AND interest in two more OLD lineman........JUST WHAT WE NEED, thanks CHARLEY.

Why don't we take a run at C - Justin Hartwig, who is still young, with lots of PRIME years ahead of him. Why not OG - Stephen Neal, who is also young, with winning experience from New England ? Why didn't we go after LT Kevin Shaffer ?...who signed with the BROWNS.

I don't know how FLANAGAN and HALLEN are going to really boost this line ?

AND how about the other Charley CASH-EARLY signings.......DAVID CARR and STEVE MCKINNEY. WOW, maybe the 2 guys that I would've liked most on ANY OTHER team, for the upcoming year.


WOW, Casserly is already grading out to an F-, for this off-season.

CC should have been let go after the horrible yr the team had. For some reason he is still here. Only pick-up i agree with is A. Weaver. I really do hope that he is not the guy making decisions in the draft. If so, we all might be very disappointed and headed for another season from hell...

 

[jerek]

You can Assume all you want but I do talk to people who have direct contact. I understand his christian ties but he has a team too. I know the after game comment is a lie. I also have witnessed the after practice actions on some occasions. He used to be respected by his teamates but things have changed. And the little tempertantrums are very unbecoming of a pro football starting QB who makes the money he does. As I have said I am holding him accountable for his paycheck.

That's cool. I also talk to people who have direct, daily contact. Weird how we seem to be receiving two very different stories. I won't say that yours is wrong, but I will say that I suspect it is.

I am Jerek, and I smite ignorance the world over. That's what I do.

 

[TEXANS84]

You know what, just when I thought things couldn't be any worse with Charlie...Millen (Lions) signs Corey Bradford and totally redeems himself.

 

[run-david-run]

My thought is if you are going to overpay then go after the guy with the track record. Weaver has been at best solid. Would any other team in the league give him 26M. I doubt it. Right now the rest of the league is laughing like damn they went and spent top dollar for a weak player again.

Defensive end is one of the highest paid positions in the NFL, along with QB, CB and LT. Weaver is a good player. Dont forget we were last in the league in run defense. We need a run stuffer at DE, especially SDE, just as badly as we need a pass rush. Overall, I think its going to be hard to get anyone better then Weaver this entire FA period, give him a chance to improve this team before you declare him a bust.

 

[kcwilson]

Overall, I think its going to be hard to get anyone better then Weaver this entire FA period, give him a chance to improve this team before you declare him a bust.

Well said. Chaos theory runs-a-muck on this playground. I suppose if we had a long history of winning like the Lakers or Yankees that we could go out and get every top line player we want.

The nuts of this is that we are back in re-building mode, without the benefit of the expansion draft. Expectations must be re-set and the team will improve over time, the team must re-tool, and this is a multi-year plan to get it going, not a 1 year plan. Not all the moves will be made this year and the additions made so far I think put us in a good position to build off of.

For those that preach about 'youth'... all we have is that in D-Rob, Earl, and Brown in the 2nd-ary. I for one welcome a DE with the experience of being on a team that knows what it takes to be a top defensive unit, even if he wasn't #1 on the unit. I will pay for leadsership, as that is what I expect from him.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Well said. Chaos theory runs-a-muck on this playground. I suppose if we had a long history of winning like the Lakers or Yankees that we could go out and get every top line player we want.

The nuts of this is that we are back in re-building mode, without the benefit of the expansion draft. Expectations must be re-set and the team will improve over time, the team must re-tool, and this is a multi-year plan to get it going, not a 1 year plan. Not all the moves will be made this year and the additions made so far I think put us in a good position to build off of.

For those that preach about 'youth'... all we have is that in D-Rob, Earl, and Brown in the 2nd-ary. I for one welcome a DE with the experience of being on a team that knows what it takes to be a top defensive unit, even if he wasn't #1 on the unit. I will pay for leadsership, as that is what I expect from him.

Excellent post, but I need to hear more YOU in the delivery. I am kidding of course. About the delivery.

 

[bkimble]

We need a wide reciever, a tight end, a Middle Linebacker, a starting QB, and a new GM. When are we going to sign a top free agent?

 

[SESupergenius]

I heard it from a very good source that Joe Texan is drinking while he posts here, so if this board has a Breathalizer

before you could log on, Joe Texan could never post, and we wouldn't have to hear his wild rants and dizzying sentences.

 

[Double Barrel]

Half the board couldn't post if we had a breathalizer!

Seriously, though, I think we need to get a grip. Mr. McNair has made his decisions, and Casserly is part of the 2006 Texans front office (for better or for worse).

As mentioned before, we did have a 7-9 team going into the 2005 off-season, and many of us agreed that coaching was the biggest problem with the 2-14 team. So it only stands to reason that many of our players have talent and just lacked leadership. Let's see what new coaching does, and then evaluate from there.

I have little doubt that Casserly will be gone next year if we have another disastrous season.

And if you don't like the decisions made so far, blame should be equally shared among ALL of the front office. Charlie's not out wheeling and dealing on his own. Our re-signs and new players are being endorsed by our new coaching staff, as well.

 

[Joe Texan]

FFFWHAT aaaaaaaaaaaareth you talsking about, I woulds neferrer gets behond the keyboard afwter dwinkin.

Seriously I feel David the multimillionare QB we selected to lead our team to victory must and I reiterate Must be held accountable.
He Must lead this team and grasp the full attention of every player on offense. If not we are doomed with him at the wheel, But that all depends if he gets the wheel come regular season.

 

[bkimble]

Guys, we've the worst GM in football. Maybe, worst than even Detriot's GM.
I've been said this for 4 years. Just look at his history. I'll bet anybody on this board that we don't win 7 games next season. This is scary suff. Same old song, same verse.


:brickwall

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

I just have a question about last year's draft. I do not know anything about how Travis Johnson has progressed but he looks alittle undersized. I was talking to some KC fans and they are so happy with Derek Johnson. They say that he is getting faster and stronger. I know we needed some fresh legs on the line but TJ does not seem to be very good. We have no linebackers! Ok , We have no quality linebackers and DJ seemed to be a solid pick OR we could have moved up a couple of spots and picked Mike Williams or Demarcus Ware.No quality WRs right now except AJ. I am just so confused about that bone head move on draft day last year. I am afraid that history will repeat itself this year.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

2002
1 David Carr Fresno State - D (some would say INC even after year 4)
2 Jabar Gaffney Florida - C
2 Chester Pitts San Diego State - C
3 Fred Weary Tennesse - D
3 Charles Hill Maryland - F
4 Jonathan Wells Ohio State - C

2003
1 Andre Johnson Miami (FL) - A
2 Tony Hollings Georgia Tech - F
2 Ben Joppru Michigan - F
3 Antwan Peek Cincinnati - C
3 Seth Wand Northwest Missouri State - D
3 Dave Ragone Louisville - F
4 Domanick Davis Louisiana State - B

2004
1 Dunta Robinson South Carolina - B
1 Jason Babin Western Michigan - F
2 Wasted Pick To Division Rival - F
3 Wasted Pick To Division Rival - F
4 Glenn Earl Notre Dame - C

2005
1 Travis Johnson Florida State - C
2 Wasted Pick for PSuck - F
3 Vernand Morency Oklahoma State - C
4 Jerome Mathis Hampton - B

Only 4 players drafted in first four rounds with a rating of B or above. So only 4 good players drafted in 4 years of expansion drafting will be on our team next year (Mathis, AJ, Dunta and Domanick). Our 2003 and 2004 drafts were so bad they will be setting our franchise back for years. Yet people say it was coaching that have put the Texans in their present position. Wrong.

Talent > Coaching

Doug from The Woodlands

 

[Joe Texan]

When I was in school I had to do extra homework for a D

So Does David.

 

[Bubbajwp]

Guys, we've the worst GM in football. Maybe, worst than even Detriot's GM.
I've been said this for 4 years. Just look at his history. I'll bet anybody on this board that we don't win 7 games next season. This is scary suff. Same old song, same verse.


:brickwall

Hold on their chief I dont know about all this CC's worse than millen stuff. I mean CC might be bad but atleast he didnt draft a WR in the first round 3 years in a row.

There is only one thing that is garunteed in the draft and that is that the lions will take a WR in the first round.

 

[TexanSam]

Seriously I feel David the multimillionare QB we selected to lead our team to victory must and I reiterate Must be held accountable.
He Must lead this team and grasp the full attention of every player on offense. If not we are doomed with him at the wheel, But that all depends if he gets the wheel come regular season.

I'm quite positive he'll be the starter at the beginning of the regular season. But you forget to mention the defense. It's not like it was all the offense's fault we sucked. Don't forget, our defense was ranked either 31st or 32nd. Either way, it's piss poor. So you can't lay all the blame on Carr.

 

[HJam72]

My expert sources tell me that V. Young and Carr are lovers and they secretly hope to play for the same team.

They also tell me that Casserly is a figurehead and McNair has been playing GM for 4 yrs. Now McNair can see that he sucks at it and is going to make Casserly work for a living. Casserly is not happy at all.

 

[Joe Texan]

I'm quite positive he'll be the starter at the beginning of the regular season. But you forget to mention the defense. It's not like it was all the offense's fault we sucked. Don't forget, our defense was ranked either 31st or 32nd. Either way, it's piss poor. So you can't lay all the blame on Carr.

I do not lay all the blame on Carr. The defense needs work and I agree. But on offense Davids pay makes him look like a good QB, while his play makes him look like a bottom sucker QB.

That needs to change by the first quarter of the first game or we need to start holding him accountable.

 

[Ibar_Harry]

I do not lay all the blame on Carr. The defense needs work and I agree. But on offense Davids pay makes him look like a good QB, while his play makes him look like a bottom sucker QB.

That needs to change by the first quarter of the first game or we need to start holding him accountable.

Joe you will need to paint your whole face Red by the end of the season to match the embarassment. Oh, well, I just had to have a little fun with you. I think coaching, the system and a lot of other factors are why David has looked so bad. We will just have to wait and see like so many other players on this ball club. We know have a good to great coaching staff. Lets see what happens when they start the traning process. I'm going to be real interested to see how we look it the 1st exhibition game.