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It's days like this one where I really miss my Houston Oilers

Hervoyel

BUENO!
Everyone's entitled to a post-humiliating loss rant and I've had one building up in me since we lost in Minnesota. It started to take form in the second quarter today when I turned off the TV and went outside to rake leaves (for the second week in a row). I did that because dammit I know what I'm looking at and today the Texans weren't going to give anyone a game.

This team is truly pitiful and you know what? I genuinely do not like them. I loved the Oilers and every time the Texans do what they do every year (which is fail in epic fashion repeatedly) I find myself cursing Bob Lanier, Bud Adams, the football gods, and every single son of a ***** in Nashville Tennessee who's sitting back and enjoying another season of watching my team play football while I have to watch this piece of crap that Bob McNair has assembled. These guys are inept and don't get any better no matter how many years and dollars and draft picks you throw at them. They suck and so far they've given us no indication that they are going to do anything long term but suck.

This is ultimately Bob McNair's pile of poo. He is a terrible NFL owner by any way that standard could possibly be measured and I'm tired of dancing around the subject. I don't care how nice he acts or how good his intentions are. **** good intentions win some damn games! Hell I don't care if you lose just field a team that plays like it has some business in the NFL! The man simply cannot pick successful management and coaches to save his life. He's found a way to bring in a second head coach who can't lead men at this level of the sport and who can't motivate or control his team. This head coach has assembled the kind of coaching staff you would expect a coordinator in over his head to assemble and that's assuming that you think Gary Kubiak is even a good coordinator. I have this sneaking suspicion that we didn't hire the offensive genius from the Broncos. We hired the Boo-Boo that got the credit for Shanahan's accomplishments. McNair has managed to bring in a second GM who throws money away on worthless free agents while ignoring players who could actually make a difference. Sure everyone has their list of players that Rick Smith has "miracled" into our midst. How many units on the field are "done"? How many are "right"? How many don't still need help? In short Bob McNair could have saved us all a lot of money and time and just stuck with horse racing (where he also lacked the necessary savy to win).

You know what? If I'd known that he was going to bring Houston a copy of the New Orleans Saints expansion team (with a better moral "core") I'd have politely asked him to take his aspirations and cart his ass to Los Angelas with his eternally losing team. "Deep Steel Blue", "Liberty White", and "Battle Red" my ass. More like "Salvation Army Blue", "We Only Sign Angels White", and "Stop The Bleeding Red" if you ask me.

When the Houston Oilers lost to the Buffalo Bills in "The Comeback" the city of Houston became a laughing stock around the NFL. It hurt and it continued to hurt but you know what? It would be over today if the Oilers had stayed in town. The city of Nashville is enjoying their 9th non-losing season in 12 years. Meanwhile we've had 5 years of no football, 6 years of losing football, and one year of .500 football that we got simply because the Jacksonville Jaguars couldn't be bothered to try in the last game of 2007. I'd say that the Houston Texans are well on their way to making the world forget "The Comeback" and giving Houston fans a whole new reason to feel like the rest of the league is laughing their butts off at our expense.

Screw this, I want my Oilers back. I want these bums gone and yes my friends this is a team filled from top to bottom with "bums". On defense we have the likes of Anthony Weaver and Travis Johnson who are both fat stupid slugs who wouldn't be starting for any team in the NFL today if the Texans didn't exist. In the linebacking corps we have Morlon Greenwood who is also a slow stupid slug with no business on the field. On any other team he would at best be hanging around as depth. Reeves, Faggins, and just about every player who has every suited up and attempted to play either of the safety positions for the Texans all belong in Arena football with their coach who apparently has signed some kind of deal with the devil allowing him to remain employed until the end of time regardless of how poor a secondary he fields. I'm speaking of Hoke of course. How this man remains employed is a mystery to me. The architect of this abortion we call a defense is still employed for some reason and isn't going anywhere this year. I understand this but I also understand that while I can't send Richard Smith packing I can walk away myself. I can't make them change what they're doing but I can certainly refuse to support it or watch it.

On the offensive side I am disgusted that we appear to be the only NFL team that Alex Gibbs cannot seem to find a way to make run the ball. We exploded for a stunning 75 yards today which I'm sure makes the offensive line proud as punch. This is because frankly our line is crap. Brown being a rookie I can understand some struggling but Pitts is just a guy with the physical tools who lacks the mentality to dominate. Myers is grossly overmatched and those of us who were suspicious of the cheap price we paid for him (I wasn't among you) were right. He's worthless and whatever the Broncos got for the 5 we gave them was worth more than this guy. Brisiel isn't even quality depth. He's worthless. The entire center of our line is either too small, too "nice", too lacking in talent, or all of the above. On top of it all they'll pretty much pick you up and dust you off after you cheap shot their QB because they're so damned oblivious to what's going on around them that they won't find out that you did it until they see the tape or a reporter tells them about it after the game.

We need a running back who can move the chains. Slaton is fine for what he is (change of pace back and that's about it) but he's not even close to being a starter in the NFL. Compared to Slaton Domanick Davis was Emmitt ****ing Smith. WR & TE is about the only spot we're good and deep at.

QB is a mess. Even if Schaub is what he's supposed to be we can't keep the guy on the field and Rosenfels is in the process of trying to see what it takes to play himself off the Texans and out of the league (because we are literally the last stop for lousy players).

I tell you people Houston football fans have been screwed bigtime by getting this crap dumped on us. There's a reason for the local persecution complex Texans fans seem to have. We've been robbed. We've been gyped. We had a team that was ours and it was taken from us and in it's place we've been given this shining steamy turd and told it was steak. Do any of you see any way that this turns out "ok"? How do you see that? How do you justify that faith? I can't.

What's worse to me is that I don't even see any point in this dumb **** trying to improve his team. McNair can't do this. He's no good at it. About the only chance this clown has of hiring a good coach or GM is to find one whose already been successful somewhere else. Stick to the proven retreads Bob, even you can manage that I hope.

And that's my rant.
 

Norg

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THe oilers have turned to the darkside we cant have them back

We must Live and die with the Texans now and see how things are going Death will be coming soon
 

Brando

Hall of Fame
Everyone's entitled to a post-humiliating loss rant and I've had one building up in me since we lost in Minnesota. It started to take form in the second quarter today when I turned off the TV and went outside to rake leaves (for the second week in a row). I did that because dammit I know what I'm looking at and today the Texans weren't going to give anyone a game.

This team is truly pitiful and you know what? I genuinely do not like them. I loved the Oilers and every time the Texans do what they do every year (which is fail in epic fashion repeatedly) I find myself cursing Bob Lanier, Bud Adams, the football gods, and every single son of a ***** in Nashville Tennessee who's sitting back and enjoying another season of watching my team play football while I have to watch this piece of crap that Bob McNair has assembled. These guys are inept and don't get any better no matter how many years and dollars and draft picks you throw at them. They suck and so far they've given us no indication that they are going to do anything long term but suck.

This is ultimately Bob McNair's pile of poo. He is a terrible NFL owner by any way that standard could possibly be measured and I'm tired of dancing around the subject. I don't care how nice he acts or how good his intentions are. **** good intentions win some damn games! Hell I don't care if you lose just field a team that plays like it has some business in the NFL! The man simply cannot pick successful management and coaches to save his life. He's found a way to bring in a second head coach who can't lead men at this level of the sport and who can't motivate or control his team. This head coach has assembled the kind of coaching staff you would expect a coordinator in over his head to assemble and that's assuming that you think Gary Kubiak is even a good coordinator. I have this sneaking suspicion that we didn't hire the offensive genius from the Broncos. We hired the Boo-Boo that got the credit for Shanahan's accomplishments. McNair has managed to bring in a second GM who throws money away on worthless free agents while ignoring players who could actually make a difference. Sure everyone has their list of players that Rick Smith has "miracled" into our midst. How many units on the field are "done"? How many are "right"? How many don't still need help? In short Bob McNair could have saved us all a lot of money and time and just stuck with horse racing (where he also lacked the necessary savy to win).

You know what? If I'd known that he was going to bring Houston a copy of the New Orleans Saints expansion team (with a better moral "core") I'd have politely asked him to take his aspirations and cart his ass to Los Angelas with his eternally losing team. "Deep Steel Blue", "Liberty White", and "Battle Red" my ass. More like "Salvation Army Blue", "We Only Sign Angels White", and "Stop The Bleeding Red" if you ask me.

When the Houston Oilers lost to the Buffalo Bills in "The Comeback" the city of Houston became a laughing stock around the NFL. It hurt and it continued to hurt but you know what? It would be over today if the Oilers had stayed in town. The city of Nashville is enjoying their 9th non-losing season in 12 years. Meanwhile we've had 5 years of no football, 6 years of losing football, and one year of .500 football that we got simply because the Jacksonville Jaguars couldn't be bothered to try in the last game of 2007. I'd say that the Houston Texans are well on their way to making the world forget "The Comeback" and giving Houston fans a whole new reason to feel like the rest of the league is laughing their butts off at our expense.

Screw this, I want my Oilers back. I want these bums gone and yes my friends this is a team filled from top to bottom with "bums". On defense we have the likes of Anthony Weaver and Travis Johnson who are both fat stupid slugs who wouldn't be starting for any team in the NFL today if the Texans didn't exist. In the linebacking corps we have Morlon Greenwood who is also a slow stupid slug with no business on the field. On any other team he would at best be hanging around as depth. Reeves, Faggins, and just about every player who has every suited up and attempted to play either of the safety positions for the Texans all belong in Arena football with their coach who apparently has signed some kind of deal with the devil allowing him to remain employed until the end of time regardless of how poor a secondary he fields. I'm speaking of Hoke of course. How this man remains employed is a mystery to me. The architect of this abortion we call a defense is still employed for some reason and isn't going anywhere this year. I understand this but I also understand that while I can't send Richard Smith packing I can walk away myself. I can't make them change what they're doing but I can certainly refuse to support it or watch it.

On the offensive side I am disgusted that we appear to be the only NFL team that Alex Gibbs cannot seem to find a way to make run the ball. We exploded for a stunning 75 yards today which I'm sure makes the offensive line proud as punch. This is because frankly our line is crap. Brown being a rookie I can understand some struggling but Pitts is just a guy with the physical tools who lacks the mentality to dominate. Myers is grossly overmatched and those of us who were suspicious of the cheap price we paid for him (I wasn't among you) were right. He's worthless and whatever the Broncos got for the 5 we gave them was worth more than this guy. Brisiel isn't even quality depth. He's worthless. The entire center of our line is either too small, too "nice", too lacking in talent, or all of the above. On top of it all they'll pretty much pick you up and dust you off after you cheap shot their QB because they're so damned oblivious to what's going on around them that they won't find out that you did it until they see the tape or a reporter tells them about it after the game.

We need a running back who can move the chains. Slaton is fine for what he is (change of pace back and that's about it) but he's not even close to being a starter in the NFL. Compared to Slaton Domanick Davis was Emmitt ****ing Smith. WR & TE is about the only spot we're good and deep at.

QB is a mess. Even if Schaub is what he's supposed to be we can't keep the guy on the field and Rosenfels is in the process of trying to see what it takes to play himself off the Texans and out of the league (because we are literally the last stop for lousy players).

I tell you people Houston football fans have been screwed bigtime by getting this crap dumped on us. There's a reason for the local persecution complex Texans fans seem to have. We've been robbed. We've been gyped. We had a team that was ours and it was taken from us and in it's place we've been given this shining steamy turd and told it was steak. Do any of you see any way that this turns out "ok"? How do you see that? How do you justify that faith? I can't.

What's worse to me is that I don't even see any point in this dumb **** trying to improve his team. McNair can't do this. He's no good at it. About the only chance this clown has of hiring a good coach or GM is to find one whose already been successful somewhere else. Stick to the proven retreads Bob, even you can manage that I hope.

And that's my rant.
:tiphat: Great post and I feel like I did last year when we lost to the Chargers. I want some major changes made. I'm sick of being sick because of my team.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
Its a lot like having a 1966 GTO and having your dad sell it to your neighbor. Then your dad turning around and buying you a 1995 Ford Escort and getting to watch your neighbor drive off to work in what was your goat.
 

V Man

Pumpkinhead
Wow, what a post. It is so close to how I feel. Thanks for the rank, I feel like I am not alone anymore.
 

ObsiWan

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
You know what? If I'd known that he was going to bring Houston a copy of the New Orleans Saints expansion team (with a better moral "core") I'd have politely asked him to take his aspirations and cart his ass to Los Angelas with his eternally losing team. "Deep Steel Blue", "Liberty White", and "Battle Red" my ass. More like "Salvation Army Blue", "We Only Sign Angels White", and "Stop The Bleeding Red" if you ask me.
Priceless!!
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
F the oilers, I quit them when they quit me, texans are more fun than any other h-town team

HAHAHAHAHAHAA!

You got a strange definition of "fun" dude.

I quit them too when they left. I guess that pretty much means I'm without a professional team since the Texans suck like nobody's business.
 

eriadoc

Texan-American
Well, I can't agree 100% with everything you said, but I definitely feel you. And I'll add that I am really happy I sold my tickets. After 6.5 years of utter futility, I am extremely happy to be spending my money on more productive things, like .... anything else, actually.
 

J-Russ

Veteran
If every Texan's fans chipped in a hundred dollar, maybe we can buy the Texans from McNair...

Let the "Save Our Texans" Foundation begin.
 

RTP2110

All Pro
On defense we have the likes of Anthony Weaver and Travis Johnson who are both fat stupid slugs who wouldn't be starting for any team in the NFL today if the Texans didn't exist. In the linebacking corps we have Morlon Greenwood who is also a slow stupid slug with no business on the field.

Epic post:goodpost:
 
Morlon has been taking coverage lessons from Reeves. Reeves actually had two of his better plays of the season early in this game but I'm so sick of watching our defense in general. Maybe we need to switch up the uniform color and go camo with green helmets. Maybe we can fool the other QB into throwing a pick every now and then.
 

Hookem Horns

Administrator
Staff member
While I hated it when it first happened I can definitely say I am glad that my family left Houston and moved to New York when I was 13 years old. Having lived up there all those years gave me other rooting interests besides Houston. Houston football (both the Oilers and Texans) has brought me no joy whatsoever in a lifetime.

Every other sports team I follow has done something at some point in my life. NY Rangers won the Cup in 94, NY Giants won Super Bowls in 86, 90, 08, LA Dodgers won WS in 81, 88, Houston Rockets won it all in 94, 95. Oh, almost forgot, U of Texas won the NC in 2005.

My only sports fan futility has been at the hands of both Houston NFL teams. The Houston Oilers always choked and pissed me off year after year (do you really miss that?) and the Texans have never resembled an NFL team much less a playoff team.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Myers is grossly overmatched and those of us who were suspicious of the cheap price we paid for him (I wasn't among you) were right. He's worthless and whatever the Broncos got for the 5 we gave them was worth more than this guy.
it was a 6th rd pick (#183) & his name is Spencer Larson a LB who was moved to FB & as of yet, done nothing. did notice one interesting facet from search, that Greg Eslinger, C is on Denver's practice squad (was aquired in the offseason as free agent from Denver, in fall camp the released back to Denver to replace Myers).

Hervoyel, you about summed everything up in a single post otherwise :goodpost:
 

Blake

MMQB
This is why you dont let your NFL franchise leave town. 6 years of no football, then we get a franchise called the Texans (****ing hate that name) and then you get the crap from other teams to create a new franchise.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. At least the Browns got to keep their name. They didnt have to create a new name like the Cleveland Buckeyes.

The Texans have the worst name in the NFL and arent doing anything to change anyones perception about it.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
The only real memory I have of the Oilers is when they were a joke of a franchise.

I was amazed how the "Comeback" basically sealed the fate of an entire franchise
 

Texan Asylum

Hall of Fame
When the Oilers left town, I tried my darnedest to find a team to root for, even the dreaded enemy themselves! But could never find the heart required to root for any other besides my beloved Oilers.

Then came along the Texans. My heart was renewed! But now, oh these this many years later, the heart is slowing starting to die.

I can't take it hardly any longer. I miss my old team. I miss the rush of a good old fashioned butt kicking. I know, they left me hanging through some epic chokes, but there was always hope. I can't see hope with this bunch. We have very few play-makers, and I fear that once the rest of the 'team' and staff gets their collective heads out of their butts (IF they ever do), I fear that those few talents we do have, will have moved on or have gone past their prime.

Funny thing came to mind before I posted this response. I was thinking how long my Texans gear (shirts and such) has lasted, and then it dawned on me...it's hard to muster the pride it takes to wear such apparel for such a flawed product. Sad to think of one's team as that, a product, but this team has taught me that.

p.s...great post Herv and rep your way. Sadly, it's the truth, and that's not a good thing.
 

imatexan

All Pro
I would rather get my legs chopped off then wish for the Oilers back.

I hated the Oilers, the stupid name(at least Texans is something we can relate too!),the stupid logo, the stupid colors, the crap on the field, the terrible fans of what I remember, everything about them.

I have loved the Texans since they were announced and my passion for them will be there win or loss.

I thank Bob for giving us a beautiful stadium and a NFL football team, dont know what I would do if we did not have them. Maybe he isnt the best owner, but he cared for the city of Houston and he wanted the NFL back. Was he in this for the money? HAha no. (Yes I realize we helped build the stadium also but no one was willing to put of the money Bob did)

I find this post offensive and its a shame if you ever call yourself a Texans fan. As should all the REAL Texans fans in this place, but as already proved there will already be many who praise this hate of the team. I can understand the frustration, I was VERY today but hating the team is a different story.

We have a team Hervoyel, they are the Houston Texans and they have sold out 70 straight games and why it is tough being a Texans fans, it is ONE of the joys in my life and many others.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
I find this post offensive and its a shame if you ever call yourself a Texans fan. As should all the REAL Texans fans in this place, but as already proved there will already be many who praise this hate of the team. I can understand the frustration, I was VERY today but hating the team is a different story.
Please don't give us the "REAL FAN" crap. For that go to HT.com and you can argue with all the sixteen year olds who deem themselves "TRUE" fans of the Texans and everyone else are pig droppings for saying the slightest thing offensive or negative about the Texans.



We have a team Hervoyel, they are the Houston Texans and they have sold out 70 straight games and why it is tough being a Texans fans, it is ONE of the joys in my life and many others.

I am watching the Eagles/Giants game right now. If you want to know what a real team looks like watch. Our team is no where near the caliber of either team.

Its been 7 years, we have played 121 games, we have 35 wins and 86 losses.

And that whole consecutive sell out thing is a sham. The deal with the city was a guaranteed 5 years of sell outs and the corp sponsors have bought every ticket since. Do you go to the games? Watch them on TV? These game are not sold out. The stadium is 3/4 full at best..
 

imatexan

All Pro
Actually I do go to the games, have been to almost every since the start. Well whoever buys the tickets the fact is it has been sold out, I know people who are still on the waiting list for tickets.

If you do not like your team, your are not a real fan. Plain and simple.Why cant sixteen year old be true fans? You are going off age now if you can be a fan or not? Very sad if that is the case.
 

TexansFight

Veteran
I would rather get my legs chopped off then wish for the Oilers back.

I hated the Oilers, the stupid name(at least Texans is something we can relate too!),the stupid logo, the stupid colors, the crap on the field, the terrible fans of what I remember, everything about them.

I have loved the Texans since they were announced and my passion for them will be there win or loss.

I thank Bob for giving us a beautiful stadium and a NFL football team, dont know what I would do if we did not have them. Maybe he isnt the best owner, but he cared for the city of Houston and he wanted the NFL back. Was he in this for the money? HAha no. (Yes I realize we helped build the stadium also but no one was willing to put of the money Bob did)

I find this post offensive and its a shame if you ever call yourself a Texans fan. As should all the REAL Texans fans in this place, but as already proved there will already be many who praise this hate of the team. I can understand the frustration, I was VERY today but hating the team is a different story.

We have a team Hervoyel, they are the Houston Texans and they have sold out 70 straight games and why it is tough being a Texans fans, it is ONE of the joys in my life and many others.
How old are you? 15 maybe? I feel sorry for you that you feel that way about the Oilers. what you said was patently idiotic.

Also, you should shut the hell up and take your real Texans fan crap somewhere else. Hervoyel has been around a LONG ASS time. For those of us like Herv who have a frame of reference of remembering PLAYOFF TEAMS here in Houston, the crap weare being fed right now is even more gallin Since you appear to be a snot nosed kid, you apparently don't know any better. For those of us who are od enough to remember the Oilers, we have fond memories of kick ass PLAYOFF TEAMS.

Herv, great post, rep definitely coming your way from me. I am 33 years old and grew up going to Oilers games. My folks had season tickets. The Oilers were literally my first love. I lived and died with that team. My most favorite thing in the world was to go to games in the Dome. I was there for the House of Pain years and the 7 straight playoff seasons.

I really cherish those memories and miss the excitement and joy I used to get following the Oilers. Of course, they broke my heart in the playoffs but they at least were interesting and good.

I hate both Bud Adams and Bob Lanier in the sordid mess that led to OUR team moving. The Texans are way too corporate and blah. The Oilers had a connection with this town that you can't manufacture with liberty white day and whatever stupid commemorative days they put on. Bum's Oilers were overachieving guys that this blue collar town could relate to.
 

Hookem Horns

Administrator
Staff member
For the most part the old Oilers fans are the Texans fans. I think most here over 30 were Oilers fans.

However I don't know which is worse, having a team like the Oilers that were always just good enough to get your hopes up only to crush you come playoff time, or a team like the Texans where you don't expect anything and losing is just another typical Sunday.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
Actually I do go to the games, have been to almost every since the start. Well whoever buys the tickets the fact is it has been sold out, I know people who are still on the waiting list for tickets.

If you do not like your team, your are not a real fan. Plain and simple.Why cant sixteen year old be true fans? You are going off age now if you can be a fan or not? Very sad if that is the case.
You can hate your team and still be a true fan. This team sucks like all the other teams that have worn the bull head. You can't deny that. People don't go to the games, you can't deny that either. Empty seats at every game.

Question. If this team does not care about itself or the fans than why should the fans care about this team?
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
For the most part the old Oilers fans are the Texans fans. I think most here over 30 were Oilers fans.

However I don't know which is worse, having a team like the Oilers that were always just good enough to get your hopes up only to crush you come playoff time, or a team like the Texans where you don't expect anything and losing is just another typical Sunday.
I would say it is better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.
 

imatexan

All Pro
I am not a kid first off. Get your facts straight. I am also not idiotic, thanks for the name calling real nice. I should shut the hell up? Sorry for being a Texans fan on a Texans fan site.


Not being old enough too remember the playoffs because the oilers sucked makes me a snot nose kid?

It makes me sad that a fellow Texan fan would name call someone for sticking up for his team. I really did expect more, maybe I should not have.

I do not have anything personal against Herv, he posted what he thought and I posted my feelings.
 

GNTLEWOLF

Rookie
How old are you? 15 maybe? I feel sorry for you that you feel that way about the Oilers. what you said was patently idiotic.

Also, you should shut the hell up and take your real Texans fan crap somewhere else. Hervoyel has been around a LONG ASS time. For those of us like Herv who have a frame of reference of remembering PLAYOFF TEAMS here in Houston, the crap weare being fed right now is even more gallin Since you appear to be a snot nosed kid, you apparently don't know any better. For those of us who are od enough to remember the Oilers, we have fond memories of kick ass PLAYOFF TEAMS.

Herv, great post, rep definitely coming your way from me. I am 33 years old and grew up going to Oilers games. My folks had season tickets. The Oilers were literally my first love. I lived and died with that team. My most favorite thing in the world was to go to games in the Dome. I was there for the House of Pain years and the 7 straight playoff seasons.

I really cherish those memories and miss the excitement and joy I used to get following the Oilers. Of course, they broke my heart in the playoffs but they at least were interesting and good.
I hate both Bud Adams and Bob Lanier in the sordid mess that led to OUR team moving. The Texans are way too corporate and blah. The Oilers had a connection with this town that you can't manufacture with liberty white day and whatever stupid commemorative days they put on. Bum's Oilers were overachieving guys that this blue collar town could relate to.



Amen and Amen! I love your fire! I never lived in Houston. I was a small child when the AFL was new and The Oilers were its first champions. I was always needing a Texas team to be for and living in East Texas all you heard was Cowboys this and cowboys that. I learned early that cowpie fans are obnoxious...the most obnoxious anywhere. I loved the oilers. I too miss their blue collar ethic and coaches that one could see ones self watching a Sunday game with. They were regular people. And they played with passion and heart. When football came back to Houston I rejoiced! I had missed having a Texas team, but this team has sickened me from the beginning. The coaching has been sub-par and without passion, the draft choices have under-acheived, and the free agent aquisitions look like some one is using the old dart board method of choosing. Nothing makes sense. I am and will be a Texans fan, but I too miss those Oilers. Well said herv and Texansfight. Rep to both.
 

Marcus

Windmill cancer survivor
Wow Herv . . . didn't know you had it in you. :)

If I could borrow one blurb in your rant ....

When the Houston Oilers lost to the Buffalo Bills in "The Comeback" the city of Houston became a laughing stock around the NFL. It hurt and it continued to hurt but you know what? . . .

Pssst. Hey Herv. If "The Comeback" hadn't occured, the Houston Oilers would still be here.

Just thought I'd . . . bring ya up to speed. :winky:
 

texanhead08

All Pro
The Oilers broke the fans hearts in January. The Texans have learned to do that before Thanksgiving most years. The Oilers choked in the playoffs and the Texans have choked in the regular season. It sucks either way. The one bonus we have is we don't have to look at Bottom Line Bud every year.
 
For the most part the old Oilers fans are the Texans fans. I think most here over 30 were Oilers fans.

However I don't know which is worse, having a team like the Oilers that were always just good enough to get your hopes up only to crush you come playoff time, or a team like the Texans where you don't expect anything and losing is just another typical Sunday.
That's a good question. But losing the Oilers was probably the biggest heart break of all. I'll never get over it and can never like the titans. Bud will roast big time for taking our team, all because he got his knickers in a twist because the richie-riches of Houston wouldn't include him in their world. He was always an outsider in Houston and when he couldn't get his stadium and all the illuminati in Houston turned their backs on him, he took his toys and ran. The people that got hurt the most were the fans. Sad. very sad.
 

Norg

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This is why you dont let your NFL franchise leave town. 6 years of no football, then we get a franchise called the Texans (****ing hate that name) and then you get the crap from other teams to create a new franchise.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. At least the Browns got to keep their name. They didnt have to create a new name like the Cleveland Buckeyes.

The Texans have the worst name in the NFL and arent doing anything to change anyones perception about it.
I would disagree with that

Buffalo bills-Never seen a buffalo in NY i dont know about u and there symbol looks dated

Balty Ravens- Yes cool name but symbol looks like a Rat Bird

Chiny bengals-First of all the entire state of Ohio is lame and i have never seen a bengal cat in Ohio

Tenn TItans-Symbol looks like a redneck hot rod decal symbol

and then u got San fransisco 49ers- what does the 49ers even mean ????

I dont think we got the worst name in football it makes since we are the Houston texans the team is in Texas thus we are texans Duh and its hard to make a diss name for "Texans" unlike Cowboys or thus Cowgirls
 

Norg

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and some people Under the age of 30 right now where 2 young to remember the texans or to young to be avid fans

I see myself more has a die hard texans fan and will diss the way things are going but iam just so used to losing iam just glad we have a NFL team in houston and dont want it to see it go away

and we win games

6-10
8-8

and this season

its not like we dont win less then 5 games every season
 

YellerLotYeller

nice marmot
I dont think we got the worst name in football it makes since we are the Houston texans the team is in Texas thus we are texans Duh and its hard to make a diss name for "Texans" unlike Cowboys or thus Cowgirls
I love the name/logo of the team, but that's the only thing that makes us look like an NFL team on the field right now.
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
our team is soft...and they are very much indeed hard to watch if you have been a long time NFL fan and have a few experiences to compare it to. Nothing like a soft, finesse team that gives up 30+ points a game to stoke the fires of real NFL fans....blech. Excuse me if I can't get into a rah rah homer mentality when watching an awful product, with awful coaching and awful ongoing personnel evaluation. Deeds not words? Don't make me laugh.
 

BigWig

Bigimus Wigimus
Its just getting harder and harder to watch. I have the NFL Ticket and found myself watching the other games instead of the Texans. Its also getting harder to take the let down or feeling of always losing. I bought season tix and PSL's in the Bullpen and went to every game the first 5 years, driving 3 hrs each way to make it a 12 hour day every sunday, but after 5 years of dealing with the numerous bad moves and blunders and losse I sold my tix. Its just easier dealing with losing and looking so bad when you don't have to drive back home.
I don't really miss the Oilers, althouhg there were mor fun times with them than the Texans it seems, really not sure.
After yesterday I found myself, questioning whether I would even watch the next game or spend time with my daughter, I think that may be a no brainer.
After all I got a dvr and if I feel like O need some depression in my life I can always go back and watch it.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
I would rather get my legs chopped off then wish for the Oilers back.

I hated the Oilers, the stupid name(at least Texans is something we can relate too!),the stupid logo, the stupid colors, the crap on the field, the terrible fans of what I remember, everything about them.
I feel very differently about the name "Oilers" and what it means. It's a name that every Houstonian can identify with and it belongs in the pantheon of classic NFL names like Packers, Cowboys, and Steelers. It doesn't just give us a tough sounding label, it describes the people of this region. It's what many of us (or our ancestors) have done for a living and it has genuine local significance. "Texans" in no way captures this. It's a generic corporate sell-out designed to maximize profits by appealing to an entire state as opposed to a single city. It's a careful play on your patriotism and pride done entirely to seperate you from your dollars. "Oilers" meant something but "Texans" doesn't mean a damned thing (and this is coming from a native Texan mind you). "Texans" is just our version of "Titans" if you ask me. It's a name that was picked from the bottom of an empty well after the rest of the NFL had picked what they want. It's the "Mr Irrellevent" of team names.

imatexan said:
I have loved the Texans since they were announced and my passion for them will be there win or loss.

I thank Bob for giving us a beautiful stadium and a NFL football team, dont know what I would do if we did not have them. Maybe he isnt the best owner, but he cared for the city of Houston and he wanted the NFL back. Was he in this for the money? HAha no. (Yes I realize we helped build the stadium also but no one was willing to put of the money Bob did)
This is a great statement and I can respect that you feel this way. I too appreciate what Bob McNair did to get an NFL team but I understand that not everyone who can afford an NFL franchise is going to be good at running one and I've got a lifetime of experience watching the Detroit Lions and Cincinnati Bengals of the world dwell in the bottom of their respective divisions. That's a fate I'd wish on no fan and certainly not one who is as willing to embrace a team as you are. Again I'm conceding that you are far more passionate about the Texans than I will ever be. I've got no issue with your enthusiasm. I think you are a bit on the naive side if you think that Bob McNair isn't in this for the money. The Texans are from top to bottom entirely about the money as is the entire NFL today. The league I watched grow into the greatest in sports isn't anything like what I'm watching today. This league is cold and corporate and filled with unabashed greed.

imatexan said:
I find this post offensive and its a shame if you ever call yourself a Texans fan. As should all the REAL Texans fans in this place, but as already proved there will already be many who praise this hate of the team. I can understand the frustration, I was VERY today but hating the team is a different story.
I've never felt the need to define myself by what I'm a fan of. I'm a fan of Pecan pie but I don't get upset if all they have is Apple. I'm a fan of Pontiac muscle cars but I enjoyed driving my Mazda Protoge when that was all I could afford. I've hung around for years waiting to see progress and observed nothing but incompetence and frustration and I'm still drawn to the television set every Sunday to see if maybe this week a team worth investing my time and interest in might show up. I don't know if I'd call myself a "REAL fan" or not. I definitely have a disorder of some sort for still caring but I won't care forever. Why would I even consider doing that? The National Football League is "entertainment" and entertainment that doesn't entertain is kind of pointless isn't it? Entertainment that makes you angry most Sundays is not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. I said I don't like this team and I meant it. How many of you guys "like" people who have let you down year after year after year? How many of you like music by musicians who always sell you lousy albums? How many of you enjoy films by directors who always make bad films?

Don't confuse criticism with hate. I don't hate the team. I just don't blindly support everything they do indefinitely (and I'm not saying you do so don't take it that way). If I didn't care I'd be silent, not bitching.

imatexan said:
We have a team Hervoyel, they are the Houston Texans and they have sold out 70 straight games and why it is tough being a Texans fans, it is ONE of the joys in my life and many others.
70 straight games sounds like a lot of money for Bob McNair if you ask me. I've gone to a few of those games myself over the years and I've got some observations from those trips. I'm not a season ticket holder. I've probably only bought tickets to 4-5 games in that time. I've gone to games at no cost many times because friends have asked me and they had seats that they either weren't using or they had access to seats that some corporation wasn't using. Sellouts are not filled stadiums and empty seats aren't hard to see. When Bob McNair got the team he was guaranteed 5 years of sellout games. That's not fan loyalty, that's a business deal. The deal is over but in that time the Texans have given us precious little to inspire our continued support.

I don't want to call you out about any of this but I don't agree with you and don't care very much that you find my words offensive. I don't find yours to be so.
 

Wolf

100% Texan
nice post herv

after looking at the scores yesterday

one thing that stood out to me..
the ****ing falcons are 6-3 and the Texans just got blown out

even the dolphins are 5-4
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
nice post herv

after looking at the scores yesterday

one thing that stood out to me..
the ****ing falcons are 6-3 and the Texans just got blown out

even the dolphins are 5-4
Exactly what I'm talking about. In the years since the Texans arrived in 2002 we've seen teams go from good to bad and back again (Tennessee for example) and "reload" instead of rebuilding. We've seen teams rebuild (Miami). We've seen bad teams rise and fall back down (Cincinnati for example).

Here though very little ever changes. We look weak, we look soft, and we look incompetent just like we do every single year. We always look like we're a draft or two away or we're just a few months or years from gelling. We always look like we need to replace one or two coaches.

We always look like nobody is in the wheelhouse steering the ship. Who owns this ship?
 

Texans_Chick

Utopian Dreamer
On the offensive side I am disgusted that we appear to be the only NFL team that Alex Gibbs cannot seem to find a way to make run the ball. We exploded for a stunning 75 yards today which I'm sure makes the offensive line proud as punch. This is because frankly our line is crap. Brown being a rookie I can understand some struggling but Pitts is just a guy with the physical tools who lacks the mentality to dominate. Myers is grossly overmatched and those of us who were suspicious of the cheap price we paid for him (I wasn't among you) were right. He's worthless and whatever the Broncos got for the 5 we gave them was worth more than this guy. Brisiel isn't even quality depth. He's worthless. The entire center of our line is either too small, too "nice", too lacking in talent, or all of the above. On top of it all they'll pretty much pick you up and dust you off after you cheap shot their QB because they're so damned oblivious to what's going on around them that they won't find out that you did it until they see the tape or a reporter tells them about it after the game.
Interesting rant.

Actually, the Texans running game IS meeting the standards that running games do under Alex Gibbs (at least prior to that game).....except that the Texans are doing as many run attempts.

Check out the interesting half way mark stats here.

I didn't have a rant in me because it's like kicking puppies, but here is my post game that focuses a lot on the run.

I think I may do a post on the Chron noodling around what the Texans need to do both short term and long term. If any one wants to add any realistic suggestions, please feel to add them on to the current Chron.com post in the above link.
 

cowbellm00

100% Houstonian
The city of Nashville is enjoying their 9th non-losing season in 12 years. Meanwhile we've had 5 years of no football, 6 years of losing football, and one year of .500 football that we got simply because the Jacksonville Jaguars couldn't be bothered to try in the last game of 2007.
Wow dude, that really put's it into perspective for me.
 

Wolf

100% Texan
my blood pressure has gone up I think .. I am so tempted to email the Texans (not that it would do any good).

Basically state that this offseason.. GET THE DEFENSE FIXED.. Get someone in here that will give this defense an identity ... You have these young guys (mario and demeco,okoye,okam) that need someone to teach them NOW .. before their learning curve is stunted (if it hasn't already)

I find it humorous that say steve Mckinney and some others got released because production didn't match their pay scale .and rightfullly so.. there are certain players on the defensive side that are making more money then their production.. this offseason they need to address that. I am not saying the guys aren't playing hard and I don't blame them for getting paid what they do, but production isn't there


way this team is going, it is going to be like most of Dan Marino's dolphins.. no defense and no running game yet have the receivers that are as good as any in the league... oh and yeah... we don't have a QB under center that could compare to Marino maybe Don Strock

Key on the half hearted joke on last paragraph is .. no running game and no defense
That wins championships
 

texanhead08

All Pro
and then u got San fransisco 49ers- what does the 49ers even mean ????




Gold was discovered in the SF area in 1849 thus the name of the people who mined for it was 49ers. I guess you failed that part of US History.
 


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