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Is Pearce the answer at RB2?

beerlover said:
High ceiling outweighs low floor. Pierce is low floor with low ceiling.
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So many things don't make sense with Pierce. He looked like a low risk high ceiling guy as a rookie. Then they changed systems, he changed his body type & now his ceiling is much lower.
 
Sadly, everyone they seem to stick in not named Pierce looks like a great option to develop. Hard to think of any of Akers/Jordan/Brooks getting cut in favour of Dameon at this point.
 
welsh texan said:
Sadly, everyone they seem to stick in not named Pierce looks like a great option to develop. Hard to think of any of Akers/Jordan/Brooks getting cut in favour of Dameon at this point.
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I see the point with Akers, the OL isn't doing him any favors & he's still being productive. Brooks & Jawhar are taking what the OL is giving them. Can't really compare that to what we're seeing from Pierce.
 
thunderkyss said:
I see the point with Akers, the OL isn't doing him any favors & he's still being productive. Brooks & Jawhar are taking what the OL is giving them. Can't really compare that to what we're seeing from Pierce.
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But we also didn't see the joint practice, where Pierce was playing with and against players that will actually be on the respective teams when the season starts.
 
thunderkyss said:
If it were me, I'd have Mixon, Akers, Brooks, & Taylor on the 53. Hope to get Jordan on the PS.
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I would too, but Pierce is making the team (likely the #2 judging by how they're handling things) and I'm somewhat doubtful they give FB duties to a UDFA rookie considering how much Slowik likes using a FB.
 
steelbtexan said:
Give me Jordan over Taylor.

Brooks makes the team at FB

In no world should Pearce be the RB2 over Akers.
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I Jordan is too much like Mixon & Akers, doesn't bring anything different. Brooks & Taylor are alike & different type of back than Mixon & Akers.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
I think Akers has solidified RB2 on this roster.
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I really hope so b/c if not then it will be the most disappointing news from this organization since Demeco has gotten here...if he's true to his word there is no way DP is ahead of Akers on the depth chart...and if we are really being honest with his performance from last year and this preseason...the DP doesnt even deserve to be on the roster.
 
Considering how Demeco answered this question I'm now 100% certain he's making the team just as I had thought.


The question is at around 16:50
 
Sweech said:
Considering how Demeco answered this question I'm now 100% certain he's making the team just as I had thought.


The question is at around 16:50
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I think that’s been accepted for awhile now. Problem was he damn sure didn’t earn the RB2 spot based on prior year and preseason. Thank goodness Akers was signed and did well. McClain today gave his thoughts on the RB’s and when it came to DP he mentioned DeMeco saying he saw enough of him in practice but McClain was like oh well, next.
 
I've got to trust that DeMeco as the Head Coach of a Super Bowl contending NFL team knows more about Pierce and his value than I do cranking out TTMB opinions.

Last week the afternoon drive-time hosts on the flagship station were adamant that Pierce was gone. I texted them that Caserio and Ryans probably felt different about the situation, but they were extremely cocksure.
 
Dejaview said:
I think that’s been accepted for awhile now. Problem was he damn sure didn’t earn the RB2 spot based on prior year and preseason. Thank goodness Akers was signed and did well. McClain today gave his thoughts on the RB’s and when it came to DP he mentioned DeMeco saying he saw enough of him in practice but McClain was like oh well, next.
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Yeah I think we're all reluctantly resigned to the fact we get to watch Dameon be given the #2 spot because of non-tackling practices.

Can't wait to repeat last season and hear about how bad this O-line is at run-blocking (admittedly they're not great) to cover up for the fact that he'll struggle to even get close to 3 yards a carry.

They absolutely better keep Akers though.
 
sandman said:
I've got to trust that DeMeco as the Head Coach of a Super Bowl contending NFL team knows more about Pierce and his value than I do cranking out TTMB opinions.

Last week the afternoon drive-time hosts on the flagship station were adamant that Pierce was gone. I texted them that Caserio and Ryans probably felt different about the situation, but they were extremely cocksure.
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He was also sure Pierce was the guy and was much better than Singletary last season and they dragged that out for WEEKS.

I love Demeco and I love Caserio, but these guys are not infallible and they clearly have blind spots. It's just unfortunate to watch them repeat the same mistake twice. I'm just hoping Mixon will be good to mitigate any real damage caused.
 
Sweech said:
Yeah I think we're all reluctantly resigned to the fact we get to watch Dameon be given the #2 spot because of non-tackling practices.

Can't wait to repeat last season and hear about how bad this O-line is at run-blocking (admittedly they're not great) to cover up for the fact that he'll struggle to even get close to 3 yards a carry.

They absolutely better keep Akers though.
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Do you think he’s still slated for RB2 even with Akers? Do you think Akers isn’t a lock? Wow he better get good real quick or DeMeco will lose the first feather from his hat. For an “all-in” year he’s really making bold choices.
 
This is going to sound very condescending and self-important of me to say (and it assumes that DeMeco stays with Pierce at RB2), but maybe this is a lesson DeMeco needs to learn the hard way. At the end of the day you can't fall in love with the player if he's not producing on the field. I'm %95 sure that Pierce won't be a productive ZBS runner, but I'm not forgetting that DeMeco is a 2nd year Head Coach and he's got to get use to making this type of decision. If it takes a wasted roster spot to drive that point home, so be it.
 
Considering Pierce, the only thing that makes any sense to me about keeping him is Caserio may have a trade in his pocket involving this running back. Unfortunately, it may be later into the regular season before we ever find out. If Nick is going to make a poor decision, this far down the bench it's okay with me.
 
cland said:
This is going to sound very condescending and self-important of me to say (and it assumes that DeMeco stays with Pierce at RB2), but maybe this is a lesson DeMeco needs to learn the hard way. At the end of the day you can't fall in love with the player if he's not producing on the field. I'm %95 sure that Pierce won't be a productive ZBS runner, but I'm not forgetting that DeMeco is a 2nd year Head Coach and he's got to get use to making this type of decision. If it takes a wasted roster spot to drive that point home, so be it.
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Better to learn that lesson with a backup RB than a more impactful position like franchise QB.
 
Dejaview said:
Do you think he’s still slated for RB2 even with Akers? Do you think Akers isn’t a lock? Wow he better get good real quick or DeMeco will lose the first feather from his hat. For an “all-in” year he’s really making bold choices.
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Considering Pierce was rested in the last preseason game and Akers was playing well into the 4th quarter yes I believe Pierce is a lock and is 99% likely to start the season as #2 and yes I think the team is still considering things with Akers.

Crazy, I know, but that's what they're showing they're thinking.
 
Sweech said:
He was also sure Pierce was the guy and was much better than Singletary last season and they dragged that out for WEEKS.

I love Demeco and I love Caserio, but these guys are not infallible and they clearly have blind spots. It's just unfortunate to watch them repeat the same mistake twice. I'm just hoping Mixon will be good to mitigate any real damage caused.
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Except last year the situation was around being the starter. Which was based on his rookie season output. It wasn't a mistake to name him the starter last year. One could argue they took too long to figure out it wasn't working, but the Texans as a whole were losing very winnable games in the first seven games of the season.

This year it is about being on the roster. I'm not sure how that is the same mistake twice.
 
Sweech said:
Considering Pierce was rested in the last preseason game and Akers was playing well into the 4th quarter yes I believe Pierce is a lock and is 99% likely to start the season as #2 and yes I think the team is still considering things with Akers.

Crazy, I know, but that's what they're showing they're thinking.
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I saw that as they know what they have in DP and were giving a talented yet injury prone player some run so they can assess him more.

I think both make the team. I think both bring some (very different) concerns about being #2.
 
sandman said:
I saw that as they know what they have in DP and were giving a talented yet injury prone player some run so they can assess him more.

I think both make the team. I think both bring some (very different) concerns about being #2.
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Do they actually know what they have in DP though? The previous press conference was about making excuses for why he isn't performing in the preseason games. Demeco very literally said that Pierce needs more opportunities. And then at next time of asking doesn't play him at all.
sandman said:
Except last year the situation was around being the starter. Which was based on his rookie season output. It wasn't a mistake to name him the starter last year. One could argue they took too long to figure out it wasn't working, but the Texans as a whole were losing very winnable games in the first seven games of the season.

This year it is about being on the roster. I'm not sure how that is the same mistake twice.
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If someone wants to argue that it didn't take too long to figure out Singletary was a better fit to use than Dameon then I don't even know what to say.

The same mistake is putting Dameon over others on the depth chart who are better for the job.
 
badboy said:
Considering Pierce, the only thing that makes any sense to me about keeping him is Caserio may have a trade in his pocket involving this running back. Unfortunately, it may be later into the regular season before we ever find out. If Nick is going to make a poor decision, this far down the bench it's okay with me.
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RB2 isnt "far down the bench" is the only problem...
 
I kind of gave them a pass for the inertia they showed elevating Singletary to RB1 over Pierce last season.

The OL was in flux, it wasn’t a stretch to blame the blocking for poor running performance, and it did take CJ a couple of games to find his feet and begin to beat the coverages consistently.

Singletary began to show he was much better than Pierce just at the point when the OL began to improve a little and CJ began getting things figure out really quick, so it was ok for them to go back to DP thinking it was the other 2 things and not all 3.

As much as it looks like a lost cause, I’d have said the same about Stingley and Kenyon Green 12 months ago and both look great right now. Maybe there is hope, but I’m very concerned as we’ve seen so little of Mixon through pre-season, better hope he’s had a veteran’s training camp and isn’t actually fragile.
 
Sweech said:
He was also sure Pierce was the guy and was much better than Singletary last season and they dragged that out for WEEKS.

I love Demeco and I love Caserio, but these guys are not infallible and they clearly have blind spots. It's just unfortunate to watch them repeat the same mistake twice. I'm just hoping Mixon will be good to mitigate any real damage caused.
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Demeco's own history includes, I believe, an Achillis injury which cost him an
entire season in his professional career, so our HC likely has some real empathy
for somebody like Akers given his very severe injuries and lost time & income.
Would that qualify as a "blind spot" or just the humanity of a great young NFL HC ?
 
Sweech said:
I love Demeco. He is THE guy.

He's just not infallible and will make mistakes. Criticizing his mistakes isn't the same as disliking him.
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Leave it to DeMeco that he’s got this right but he’s got a hell of a way of proving it. Teacher’s pets aren’t real popular. I never got over getting a low draft number but proudly doing what I was told to do in the Coast Guard while millions of mommies boys with low draft numbers went to college. I hope our hard working backups at RB use this as a motivator…wherever they end up
 
Pierce is making this roster. And I have to believe Akers is making it too. But my beef is Akers should be the clear and undeniable #2, and I bet it will be DP. I don’t give a crap if DP looks like a combo of Gayle Sayers and sweetness in practice. Practice means **** imho. What do you do in games. For over a year, DP has been among the least productive RB’s in the league.

So keep him if you want, but trusting what he does in practice is going to show itself in games is fools gold. It hasn’t happened in two years. What on earth makes these guys think it’s suddenly going to change? Make him #3 and Akers #2 and I’ll be a happy camper. If it’s the reverse…the fan base and the team will have their first major dispute.
 
Porky said:
Pierce is making this roster. And I have to believe Akers is making it too. But my beef is Akers should be the clear and undeniable #2, and I bet it will be DP. I don’t give a crap if DP looks like a combo of Gayle Sayers and sweetness in practice. Practice means **** imho. What do you do in games. For over a year, DP has been among the least productive RB’s in the league.

So keep him if you want, but trusting what he does in practice is going to show itself in games is fools gold. It hasn’t happened in two years. What on earth makes these guys think it’s suddenly going to change? Make him #3 and Akers #2 and I’ll be a happy camper. If it’s the reverse…the fan base and the team will have their first major dispute.
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There just seems to be something odd going on with DP. During that last preseason game he played and sucked in shots of him on the sideline caught him sitting by himself with a thousand yard stare. Other players were smiling and talking in groups. Team players. Near the end of that game did anyone else see DP standing right behind DeMeco’s right shoulder on the sideline when nobody else was even standing close? Almost looked staged. I’m hoping for the best for him but somewhere he’s got to get his mojo back.
 
Lucky said:
Would questioning the team's choice for backup RB really be considered a major dispute?
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actually...yes it is...if something should happen to Mixon our running game goes to shite and makes us one dimensional if DP is inserted and avg's 1.1yd/carry...thats not gonna cut it and that will shut this offense down if everyone knows you cant run the ball b/c ur back cant find THE hole...
 
Lot of commentary about DP being RB2 when the conversation is about making the roster. Nothing DeMeco has said to this point has been about anything other than a roster spot. Let's pause on lighting the torches and handing out pitchforks for when/if DeMeco officially makes him RB2.
 
sandman said:
Lot of commentary about DP being RB2 when the conversation is about making the roster. Nothing DeMeco has said to this point has been about anything other than a roster spot. Let's pause on lighting the torches and handing out pitchforks for when/if DeMeco officially makes him RB2.
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Isn't the thread about him being RB2?
 
Would it be crazy to keep Pearce as the FB?
I think he's decent enough at blocking, can catch the ball out of the back field and has some special teams value.
Additionally, his running is suited to a short yardage and goal line power scheme.

Am I nuts?
 
'Ol Paw Paw said:
Would it be crazy to keep Pearce as the FB?
I think he's decent enough at blocking, can catch the ball out of the back field and has some special teams value.
Additionally, his running is suited to a short yardage and goal line power scheme.

Am I nuts?
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Now that he's lost weight before the '23 and '24 seasons, I don't think he has the bulk needed to lead block.
 
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