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Is Nick Foles done with Eagles?

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Nick Foles' immediate future with the Eagles is on hold after the quarterback suffered a broken collarbone Sunday in Houston.

According to people with knowledge of the Eagles' plans, Foles' long-term future was in doubt even before the injury.

Foles' play during the first half of this 2014 season in stark contrast to his Pro Bowl season of 2013 has "soured'' some in the organization, including general manager Howie Roseman, according to sources.

In 10 starts in 2013 Foles threw 27 touchdown passes to just two interceptions, completed 64 percent of his passes and had a league-high quarterback rating of 119.2. This season, in eight starts Foles has thrown 13 touchdown passes and 10 interceptions and has a quarterback rating of 81.9.

"I think Howie is looking at quarterbacks,'' a league source told NJ.com. "He's kind of soured on Foles, and I don't think he's alone. The organization isn't sold that he's the guy going forward.''




http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/..._to_sour_on_nick_foles_before_his_injury.html
 
Where have a heard a story like this before? A QB that had a great year, to then go on to have a mediocre year and then get hurt, then goes on to set the world on fire and win a Superbowl. Who is that guy who plays for the Saints?

I sure would take Foles.
 
TEXANRED said:
Where have a heard a story like this before? A QB that had a great year, to then go on to have a mediocre year and then get hurt, then goes on to set the world on fire and win a Superbowl. Who is that guy who plays for the Saints?

I sure would take Foles.
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Put me on that train too TexanRed!! That is two things we agree on! :tiphat:
 
Add me to Foles is not done. If he is in Philly I will throw a fit and burn TexansFights' pile of unburnt jerseys in protest.
 
Foles isn't done but he's also more the QB we saw this year than what we saw last year. He holds the ball too long and tends to force things when pressured. It was okay last year because Philly had a top 3 OL in the league. This year their OL has been decimated by injury and he's had to play without a ton of clean pockets and has been faced with a lot of pressure.

Look at the difference between him and a guy like Luck (who's OL is just as bad). The decision making and poise under pressure is so drastic.
 
Also he has started for the first time full time in his career. So he wasn't use to that as well. But still don't say that the Eagles are ready to give up on him!
 
TEXANRED said:
Where have a heard a story like this before? A QB that had a great year, to then go on to have a mediocre year and then get hurt, then goes on to set the world on fire and win a Superbowl. Who is that guy who plays for the Saints?

I sure would take Foles.
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/0ap3000000420714/Playbook-Eagles-vs-Texans


now, I know stats can be misleading, and I haven't watched the guy enough to have a proper opinion... but that doesn't look reassuring
 
Walter Football Rumors

If the Eagles decide to target a quarterback early in the draft, they could have a valuable trade commodity in signal-caller Nick Foles. The Texans and Titans would both have an interest in Foles if he were made available. If Peyton Manning decides to retire, the Broncos would also be a team that would look into acquiring Foles. Denver liked Foles when it drafted Brock Osweiler. If the Eagles wanted to trade up for Marcus Mariota, they could deal Foles to get more ammo with picks to move up, or include Foles in the package.
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revan said:
The rumors are starting.....

http://www.hngn.com/articles/61988/...nick-foles-in-draft-day-trade-with-eagles.htm
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Yeah... same thing Playoffs posted yesterday.

I don't see where it's coming from. The Broncos thing doesn't make any sense as they clearly chose Osweiler over Foles in 2012.

Foles is also on the last year of his contract. I doubt he'll get any real money on an extension & would want to use this year to reclaim some of the value he accumulated in 2013. So I don't know how open he'll be to signing a new deal, which is going to make it hard for any team to give up anything of substance to get him. Just like Mallett.

I seriously doubt the Texans, Titans, or the Broncos are interested in acquiring Nick Foles.
 
I could see the Titans trading for him on the condition that he sign an extension. That would make them better and buy them some time with Mettenberger.
 
Playoffs said:
What's your take on Foles today?
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He could win in the NFL but he would need an elite supporting cast. He'll never make his team worse but he isn't the kind of guy that elevates his teammates and makes them better. He'll never be THE reason why his team wins but he can get the ball to that guy if he has one.

His physical skills are similar to Flacco. But under duress Flacco is a "fight" and Foles is a "flight".
 
Marshall said:
~That certainly worked with Mallet.~
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1) Foles is an established starter in the NFL. Not a great one, but there is plenty of tape out there of him against NFL defenses. Not the same for Mallett, so the situations would be different.

2) Did I miss Mallett signing an extension after the trade that would have kept him with the team for longer than a year? Because if not, the situations would be different.
 
So does this mean the Eagles like Sanchez better than Foles and will go with him over Foles in the upcoming season ?
 
thunderkyss said:
Yeah... same thing Playoffs posted yesterday.

I don't see where it's coming from. The Broncos thing doesn't make any sense as they clearly chose Osweiler over Foles in 2012.

Foles is also on the last year of his contract. I doubt he'll get any real money on an extension & would want to use this year to reclaim some of the value he accumulated in 2013. So I don't know how open he'll be to signing a new deal, which is going to make it hard for any team to give up anything of substance to get him. Just like Mallett.

I seriously doubt the Texans, Titans, or the Broncos are interested in acquiring Nick Foles.
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I was pondering this last night, and I think the Texans could be floating this story in order to light a fire under Mallett when it comes time to negotiate a contract.

As far as the other teams, maybe Foles' agent is pushing it? idonno:

All just speculation, of course.
 
Double Barrel said:
I was pondering this last night, and I think the Texans could be floating this story in order to light a fire under Mallett when it comes time to negotiate a contract.

As far as the other teams, maybe Foles' agent is pushing it? idonno:

All just speculation, of course.
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Maybe the Texans aren't confident in Mallett and the other guys, so they are looking at all avenues to upgrade. Most of Mallet's effusive praise comes from here, not the coaches
 
IDEXAN said:
So does this mean the Eagles like Sanchez better than Foles and will go with him over Foles in the upcoming season ?
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I doubt it. I doubt that these rumors are even true. It likely all stems from people assuming that Chip would want Mariota and would be willing to trade Foles as part of a package to get him.

But it's all speculation.
 
IDEXAN said:
So does this mean the Eagles like Sanchez better than Foles and will go with him over Foles in the upcoming season ?
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Doubt it. Sanchez limits their attack options in different ways than Foles, but still limits them. Chip wants fewer limits, maximum attack options.
 
bah007 said:
1) Foles is an established starter in the NFL. Not a great one, but there is plenty of tape out there of him against NFL defenses. Not the same for Mallett, so the situations would be different.

2) Did I miss Mallett signing an extension after the trade that would have kept him with the team for longer than a year? Because if not, the situations would be different.
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My point (probably not well made with few recognizing my ~sarcasm~) was that even Mallet couldn't be convinced to sign a new contract before his trade. I suspect that Foles is even less inclined to do so.
 
Marshall said:
My point (probably not well made with few recognizing my ~sarcasm~) was that even Mallet couldn't be convinced to sign a new contract before his trade. I suspect that Foles is even less inclined to do so.
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Was he offered one? I never heard about him refusing to sign one
 
The Eagles apparent indecision on what to do with quarterback Nick Foles has intrigued teams around the league, and possible suitors are beginning to emerge.

According to a person familiar with the situation, but who requested anonymity, the St. Louis Rams have interest in Foles should the Eagles decide to trade him this offseason.

Foles' possible availability was a topic of conversation among coaches and scouts last week at the Senior Bowl, with the Tennessee Titans and Houston Texans also mentioned as teams that would have interest if Foles hit the market.




http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/01/eagles_nick_foles_draws_mixed_reviews_from_nfl_coa.html
 
Foles has more experience under his belt than Mallett. But as far as ability, they compare pretty well. I would actually give Mallett the edge. So if there's interest in Foles, would it be a big surprise that there might be NFL teams also interested in Mallett? They have the Browns tape, too.
 
Lucky said:
Foles has more experience under his belt than Mallett. But as far as ability, they compare pretty well. I would actually give Mallett the edge. So if there's interest in Foles, would it be a big surprise that there might be NFL teams also interested in Mallett? They have the Browns tape, too.
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Foles threw for 27-2 TD's a season ago in like 13 or 13 games. Mallet hasn't done anything close to that and has only played for two games. One good and one bad. Foles is the guy that is proven. Mallet is still a guy that is completely inconclusive. I don't see how they could even be comparable from a potential standpoint based on the history. One guy has shown a lot and the other has shown that he can get hurt in just two games. Nothing against Mallet or anything, but if Foles becomes available, we need to do everything possible to try and land him.
 
Texecutioner said:
I don't see how they could even be comparable from a potential standpoint based on the history.
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Well, because teams don't go strictly off stats. And if they did, Foles INT% ballooning would be a red flag. That Foles would even be available (which is speculation), would mean that the team that knows him best isn't sold on him.

Still, Foles would almost certainly be ahead of Mallett in the QB search pecking order. My point is that only one team will possibly obtain him. The other teams that could be looking at Foles might then take a look at Mallett. That Mallett would only have interest from the Texans is not a foregone conclusion.
 
I think Philly wants to offload Foles for whatever pick(s) they can get to help package something to move ALLL the way up to about #5 pick in the draft for Mariota.
 
Troy Chapman said:
I think Philly wants to offload Foles for whatever pick(s) they can get to help package something to move ALLL the way up to about #5 pick in the draft for Mariota.
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May not be all that Chip is willing to unload.
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Troy Chapman said:
I think Philly wants to offload Foles for whatever pick(s) they can get to help package something to move ALLL the way up to about #5 pick in the draft for Mariota.
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I don't see the Skins (holding pick #5) that interested in helping the Eagles obtain their franchise QB. They may have to go higher to get that done.
 
Lucky said:
I don't see the Skins (holding pick #5) that interested in helping the Eagles obtain their franchise QB. They may have to go higher to get that done.
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This mock has him falling to #18

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Mock draft 1.0: Mariota falls in first round

By Bucky Brooks
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Granted, it is Bucky calling it so....:gun:
 
JB said:
This mock has him falling to #18
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It's early, and we'll see a lot of prospects go up and down in mocks. I don't think Mariota's injury is going to help him, though. I can see the Titans and the Jags very interested in keeping their picks and taking the top 2 defenders in Williams and Gregory. I think the Raiders are the wild card and may have the slot teams are looking to trade to. Everyone is talking about the Eagles moving up, but don't sleep on the Rams. Jeff Fisher has missed on a running QB (VY), but also hit big (McNair). I could see Mariota being his kind of QB.
 
Lucky said:
It's early, and we'll see a lot of prospects go up and down in mocks. I don't think Mariota's injury is going to help him, though. I can see the Titans and the Jags very interested in keeping their picks and taking the top 2 defenders in Williams and Gregory. I think the Raiders are the wild card and may have the slot teams are looking to trade to. Everyone is talking about the Eagles moving up, but don't sleep on the Rams. Jeff Fisher has missed on a running QB (VY), but also hit big (McNair). I could see Mariota being his kind of QB.
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Assuming TB takes Russell err Winston, the biggest risk for Mariota being selected is the Jets. Bowles and Gailey hard to predict. That team has lots of holes
 
Lucky said:
I don't see the Skins (holding pick #5) that interested in helping the Eagles obtain their franchise QB. They may have to go higher to get that done.
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I would think Washington would love to fleece their in-division opponent of multiple picks to let them have their guy.
 
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock · 2h2 hours ago
No, Mallett fair comparison & FA RT @ktimmreck: @JaysonBraddock do you think the Texans should/will go after Foles if available?

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock · 2h2 hours ago
@ktimmreck Mallett knows Houston's offense better than anyone, stronger arm, etc
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I agree with Braddock. No reason to go after Foles.
 
Lucky said:
It's early, and we'll see a lot of prospects go up and down in mocks. I don't think Mariota's injury is going to help him, though. I can see the Titans and the Jags very interested in keeping their picks and taking the top 2 defenders in Williams and Gregory. I think the Raiders are the wild card and may have the slot teams are looking to trade to. Everyone is talking about the Eagles moving up, but don't sleep on the Rams. Jeff Fisher has missed on a running QB (VY), but also hit big (McNair). I could see Mariota being his kind of QB.
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I don't think that was Fisher's pick. That had "ole Bud's" name all over it! I remember hearing Fisher and the OC (Might've been Gailey.) were not happy with the pick and there was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes when VY was there that led to Fisher leaving. But, to your point, I do see Fisher possibly moving up to get a QB. They are in closer range than the Eagles and wouldn't have to "mortgage their entire future." Just don't think Fisher would be interested in another "VY" type QB, though Mariota seems to have a better head on his shoulders.
 
Lucky said:
Foles has more experience under his belt than Mallett. But as far as ability, they compare pretty well. I would actually give Mallett the edge. So if there's interest in Foles, would it be a big surprise that there might be NFL teams also interested in Mallett? They have the Browns tape, too.
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I would assume that Houston is appealing to Mallett because it gives him the best chance for success with an offense that he's studied for four seasons and a HC/OC that knows how to use him and has confidence in him.

I'd be that he could potentially make more with another team, but long term goals should be kept in perspective, IMO. He could make more in the short term with a team like the Browns, but longer term success is always more lucrative.

Insideop said:
I don't think that was Fisher's pick. That had "ole Bud's" name all over it! I remember hearing Fisher and the OC (Might've been Gailey.) were not happy with the pick and there was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes when VY was there that led to Fisher leaving.
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Yep. A Football Life did an episode on the '06 Rose Bowl, and NFL Films straight up said that Bud Adams told his staff to draft VY regardless of how they felt about it. VY was not even on Fisher's radar.
 
JB said:
Assuming TB takes Russell err Winston
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What similarities do you see between Russell and Winston besides being huge framed black QBs?

Russell was lazy and didn't want to put the work in at the next level. I don't think he had football smarts either. Did Russell have off field issues besides being lazy? Honest question I don't recall him having the same concerns as Winston.

Winston doesn't appear to be lazy and apparently is a hard worker. Of course we will have to see if he stays that way at the next level. He is very football smart and apparently booksmart also. We all know the concerns about Winston off the field.

As a football player I don't think Russell showed as much promise from a talent perspective as Winston coming out.

Winston will probably excel on the field. The question a team has to ask is if it will be worth the other baggage that he might bring. It worked out for the Steelers with Rapingberger and the Vikings with Randy Moss. However you also have many examples of it not working like with what the Browns are dealing with right now.
 
Hookem Horns said:
What similarities do you see between Russell and Winston besides being huge framed black QBs?

Russell was lazy and didn't want to put the work in at the next level. I don't think he had football smarts either. Did Russell have off field issues besides being lazy? Honest question I don't recall him having the same concerns as Winston.

Winston doesn't appear to be lazy and apparently is a hard worker. Of course we will have to see if he stays that way at the next level. He is very football smart and apparently booksmart also. We all know the concerns about Winston off the field.

As a football player I don't think Russell showed as much promise from a talent perspective as Winston coming out.

Winston will probably excel on the field. The question a team has to ask is if it will be worth the other baggage that he might bring. It worked out for the Steelers with Rapingberger and the Vikings with Randy Moss. However you also have many examples of it not working like with what the Browns are dealing with right now.
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I don't see any similarities. I meant it as a joke about how big time players hit the pros and get blinded by the money. Poor taste on my part perhaps.

I do think the situation that Winston goes into will be crucial. He'll grow up quick in a good locker room.
 
JB said:
I don't think Wisenhut will have a problem going with Mett/Locker this year and Tennessee has way too many holes to address
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Locker is a free agent. The Titans may re-sign him. If not, they will need another QB to compete with Mettenberger.

This will be an interesting offseason as far as QBs are concerned. There are 8 teams with unsettled QB situations, not counting Denver (Manning's decision) and Arizona (Palmer's health). If the Eagles are intent on dealing Foles, they should get at least a similar package to what the Falcons received for Matt Schaub (two 2nds).
 
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