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Is it me or is there anyone else not in love with any of the QB's coming out?

beerlover said:
I was impressed with the Oregon secondary, youth & talent but played undiciplined, so Beck & BYU took advantage. John had several balls dropped too he could easily passed for over 400 yards, the coverage was a tight man to man, several times the dbs got in early but no call. Oregon had redshirt freshman (Jarius Byrd, Marvis Johnson, Willie Glasper, ) on the corner with one very good looking sophmore (Patrick Chung) & possible 2nd day pick senior safety J.D. Nelson (5-11 219). BYU did a nice job in pass protection might be a good resource to look at in the future for line help for the Texans.

Also like to add in the second half Beck showed good foot speed & decision making when he took off and ran in the ball 13 yards for a TD. Add to that fact he is very mature (25) married with baby on the way I think his learning curve @ the next level would be enhanced because of his experience and maturity.

Some NFL team will surely take a chance on Beck 1st day depending on how badly they need a QB to develop & what their options dictate :)
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I agree with you beer lover. Oregon decided to live by the sword. And The kid made them pay big time, every time they brought the blitz. I also believe this is the kind of guy Kubiak could mold into what he's after. The only hadicap the guy has as a young prospect is his name isn't Russell, Smith or Kolb.

Like the H back guy. The full back...won't be eligable untill '08. and they had a couple of line prospects that will slide in the draft. The left gaurd is also a Sophmore.

Agreed on the Oregon DBs as well. They were like a bunch of loose canons but the tallent is there. More day two guys.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Regarding Beck....

I see no reason for him to be a 2nd rounder. HE IS 25 years old. The adjustment into the NFL for him would still be 2-3 years which at that point he's 28. Its like Chris Weinke all over again. The fact that he's married with a baby means nothing to me other than he's going home to his wife and not to the strippers ....whatever your take on that is.

a 2nd round pick is a big investment for someone that possibly can't start until they are almost 30.

We obviously were watching two different secondaries b/c how TIGHT can the man to man be if he almost threw for 400 yards.
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Because the kid is a pretty good feild general with a good arm and he cut the man up to pieces ? BYU's o-line guys out played the ducks d line guys. The ducks Backers couldn't get there. As much as you've seen with the Texans this year, we thought you knew ? The spread is a prety good offense. Only folks who I've heard of stoping the spread this year is TCU.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
Regarding Beck....

I see no reason for him to be a 2nd rounder. HE IS 25 years old. The adjustment into the NFL for him would still be 2-3 years which at that point he's 28. Its like Chris Weinke all over again. The fact that he's married with a baby means nothing to me other than he's going home to his wife and not to the strippers ....whatever your take on that is.

a 2nd round pick is a big investment for someone that possibly can't start until they are almost 30.

We obviously were watching two different secondaries b/c how TIGHT can the man to man be if he almost threw for 400 yards.
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your certainly entitiled to your opinion but he will be a 1st day pick (for your information thats rounds 1-3) & yes I think his maturity is a plus. he is calm, focused & takes care of his buisness. therefore I disagree his learning curve would take till he is almost 30 (quite a negative light to shed on somebody). Unless he is drafted by a team just to have depth at the QB postion I could think of half a dozen teams he could start for next season @ 27 or whatever I don't see how he can be considered over the hill :tease:

regarding the defense he torched, the Head Coach of Oregon should be fired. He's excellent recruiting but his teams play so undiciplined & out of control its inexcuseable. however the talent level of the secondary is as good (raw talent wise) I've seen but they all seem to play with a chip on their shoulders. as a matter of fact their lone senior JD Nelson looks like a player & I would not mind if the Texans started thinking about him in the 5th rd. he could be a steal in the 6th or 7th :ok:
 
this from GBN previewing the prospects to watch http://www.gbnreport.com/bowlwatch.htm

The future is the word at Oregon where the Ducks best pro prospects are underclassmen like sophomores RB Jonathan Stewart (#28, 5-10, 235), WR Jaison Williams (#4, 6-5, 245), OT Max Unger (#60, 6-5, 300), and DB Patrick Chung (#15, 5-11, 205) and redshirt freshman safety Jairus Byrd (#32, 5-11, 210). The Ducks’ 2007 draft class, though, has some depth including FB/TE Dante Rosario (#44, 6-4, 250), C Enoka Lucas (#55, 6-3, 300) and OG Palauni Ma Sun (#77, 6-5,335), WR James Finley (#18, 6-1, 205), DE Matt Toeaina (#45, 6-3, 300), FS J.D. Nelson (#28, 5-11, 220) and PK Paul Martinez (#36, 6-2, 210).
 
MATRIX said:
I agree other than Quinn(who is a question by himself), not anyone really seems like a real NFL starter(atleast on paper). But, with the way stuff happens in the NFL. All I can say on the QB selection(if they make one or even get a trade or FA) is 2 words:

Tom Brady

Who know who in the middle to late rounds maybe a steal in a year or less. Remember Brady was a 6th round pick that many felt wouldn't make the roster. His camp was good, and then Drew got hurt and well...look at the rings on his hand. So, who is to say someone who we don't think is a good idea at QB won't end up a Pro Bowl level guy in a year or 2.

Still, we have to wonder if they will even replace Carr. The staff still seems very high on him, and with McNair paying all that cash. I wouldn't doubt they build the rest of the team up and let Carr play(as starter) for another year or 2. Then, if we fail to get to or be in the playoffs...they atleast move him. We probably should be looking to the 2009 class for a replacement. By then Carr will improve, or be kicked out.
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Well, I have three words for you in regards to Tom Brady.

New England Patriots

When Brady took over as QB, the Patriots were already a winning team. He has had the pleasure of never having to play behind a bad Offensive Line or on a team with a bad Defense since coming into the NFL. It is true that he hasn't always had the greatest Offensive weapons to work with but that isn't nearly as important as having a solid foundation from which to make plays. In that regard, I would say that Tom Brady has been very fortunate to have been picked by the New England Patriots, just as Ben Roethlisberger was, atleast for his first 2 seasons, in Pittsburgh and likewise he has reaped more than his fair share of credit for his team's success.
 
beerlover said:
your certainly entitiled to your opinion but he will be a 1st day pick (for your information thats rounds 1-3) & yes I think his maturity is a plus. he is calm, focused & takes care of his buisness. therefore I disagree his learning curve would take till he is almost 30 (quite a negative light to shed on somebody). Unless he is drafted by a team just to have depth at the QB postion I could think of half a dozen teams he could start for next season @ 27 or whatever I don't see how he can be considered over the hill :tease:

regarding the defense he torched, the Head Coach of Oregon should be fired. He's excellent recruiting but his teams play so undiciplined & out of control its inexcuseable. however the talent level of the secondary is as good (raw talent wise) I've seen but they all seem to play with a chip on their shoulders. as a matter of fact their lone senior JD Nelson looks like a player & I would not mind if the Texans started thinking about him in the 5th rd. he could be a steal in the 6th or 7th :ok:
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we'll have a gentleman's agreement to disagree on this one. :ok:

I think beck for another team might be a good shot if they can get him up to speed very fast but for the texans who need a VERY long term issue I don't see this kind of guy as an answer. If you don't think he can be a starter I see no reason to draft a QB on the first day.

Who is the NEXT QB on the WATCH LIST????
 
Face it guys we re not going to be drafting a qb this year...we ll probably end up with Jake Plummer, since he understands kubiaks offense, and most likely gonna be trading Carr.. and keep rosenfels as our backup. I bet we will draft a defenseive player in the first round again. Of course this is just my opinion.... just makes the most sense to me... but if we do draft a qb Im hoping for Jarmarcus.
 
I dont really like any of the quarterbacks. There are a couple late-round to undrafted guys that I think should get a look at the practice squad, and see if Kubiak can work his magic.
 
So how come no one is talking about Troy Smith?

He is big, athletic, has a cannon for an arm, puts the ball on the money, a heisman winner, and a soon to be national championship.

I thought we were looking for a winner as our next QB.

Can't get anymore of a winner than that.
 
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