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Is Andre Johnson all he's cracked up to be?

customdano said:
I have much higher expectations. When AJ,DD,& Carr do not have to be the whole team so to speak we should see some great things from everyone. Balance will be the key to The Texans success not AJ,DD & Carr Though they are all capable.When The team goes out on the field this year it will command respect because it will have the "I" removed from it. The opposing team will not know for sure that we will run the ball on 1st, 2nd. and then have to throw on third to a receiver that is triple covered,or one that will probably drop the ball in a clutch,during an all out blitz. Kubiak has stepped down off the podium and has put himself on the field with the Team. The summ of all their parts will be Greater than anyone of them as a whole......Go Texans
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I couldn't agree with you more. It appears we now have a TEAM. That's certainly what NE was and perhaps is no longer. If you had to fault Indy, it would be they are Manning, not a team.
 
Ibar_Harry said:
I couldn't agree with you more. It appears we now have a TEAM. That's certainly what NE was and perhaps is no longer. If you had to fault Indy, it would be they are Manning, not a team.
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Thank you, Looking forward to "06" lost a lot of beer with optimistic hopes for "05" Half a dozen teams were Good enough to have Won the Super Bowl only one did looking forward to that Day.
 
Ted Marchibroda had some interesting comments last year. He was doing the color for the Colts (he is their ex-HC) and said that Carr was easy to defend because he struggles hitting players in stride and tends to throw to players standing still or coming back to the ball in zones. It had to be frustrating for AJ last year since he caught so many hitch passes where he was a sitting duck and was getting creamed as soon as he caught the ball. Carr has never been the kind of player to fit a ball in a small window....at least not yet. He has a lazer for an arm...but he is wooden and not real instinctive. I think this has hurt all the receivers...including AJ.
 
Vinny said:
Ted Marchibroda had some interesting comments last year. He was doing the color for the Colts (he is their ex-HC) and said that Carr was easy to defend because he struggles hitting players in stride and tends to throw to players standing still or coming back to the ball in zones. It had to be frustrating for AJ last year since he caught so many hitch passes where he was a sitting duck and was getting creamed as soon as he caught the ball. Carr has never been the kind of player to fit a ball in a small window....at least not yet. He has a lazer for an arm...but he is wooden and not real instinctive. I think this has hurt all the receivers...including AJ.
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Vinny he did in college. I still think a lot of what you saw was a reflection of the coaching style and playing not to loose. They emphasized not forcing anything. Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes - Don't make any cause we have no margin was the watch word. Lets see what this year brings Vinny, and if its the same thing, then I agree with you.
 
Vinny said:
Ted Marchibroda had some interesting comments last year. He was doing the color for the Colts (he is their ex-HC) and said that Carr was easy to defend because he struggles hitting players in stride and tends to throw to players standing still or coming back to the ball in zones. It had to be frustrating for AJ last year since he caught so many hitch passes where he was a sitting duck and was getting creamed as soon as he caught the ball. Carr has never been the kind of player to fit a ball in a small window....at least not yet. He has a lazer for an arm...but he is wooden and not real instinctive. I think this has hurt all the receivers...including AJ.
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If that's true, why was he considered one of the best QBs in the draft 5 yrs. ago? It's also hard for me to believe that he had success at the college level with that problem. Maybe Carr only has that problem when he's on the run and I would say that a lot of QBs do. I imagine it's pretty difficult to hit a receiver in stride while your also running from a DE, but, if he can't do it when standing in the pocket (what pocket? :confused: ), then that's a real problem.

It seems to me also that hitting moving targets is probably a matter of practice and somewhat muscle memory.
 
HJam72 said:
If that's true, why was he considered one of the best QBs in the draft 5 yrs. ago?
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So was David Klingler, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf and Andre Ware....all guys who were rated high. Just because you do well in College doesn't mean it translates. If we roll with Carr I'd love to see him live up to his cap hit. He is smart and has all the arm you want. How much can you 'coach up' to overcome a lack of instinct for the position? I donno. I've been waiting since 2002, so one more year isn't going to kill me I guess.
 
HJam72 said:
If that's true, why was he considered one of the best QBs in the draft 5 yrs. ago? It's also hard for me to believe that he had success at the college level with that problem. Maybe Carr only has that problem when he's on the run and I would say that a lot of QBs do. I imagine it's pretty difficult to hit a receiver in stride while your also running from a DE, but, if he can't do it when standing in the pocket (what pocket? :confused: ), then that's a real problem.

It seems to me also that hitting moving targets is probably a matter of practice and somewhat muscle memory.
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Carr better get use to throwing on the run because that's a big part of Kubiak's system, right?
 
tsip said:
Carr better get use to throwing on the run because that's a big part of Kubiak's system, right?
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Rolling out with your line and having some targets with "YAC" ability might be a little more than He has been used too but I think He's more than ready for the task.
 
"the players do not play up to the "fans expectations", they play to their own expectations. "

...a player that has lttle or no self-motivation is not going to last long in the NFL IMO. If a player can only play his best when he exists in a 'perfect scenario,' he is in for a rude awakening. Bad coaching alone does not account 100% for missed tackles/dropped balls/poor reads/lack of effort,etc., especially when a player has been playing football his entire life. Putting forth maximum effort is not something that 'just' happens--it's part of 'who' you are as a person and should not depend upon everything going your way...
 
Answer to start of thread Yes Andre is that good, Reply too other posts Andre is not a team and I am sure that no one on last years team went on to the field without the intention of Winning I am not a Caper hater or a Carr lover I am a Texan fan . I am from Fresno and have seen better days from Carr, but I will be a Texan fan long after he is gone. I believe this next season will produce greater numbers because i believe we will be less pedictable and more dangerous and many players will put up great #'s "ie" Andre,Moulds,DD,Bush,Putzier,Armstrong,Carr. If the team played up to my expectations we would win every game......... Reality Bites......Go Texans
 
I personally dont believe that AJ has cracked his full potential...therefor I dont think he is all he is cracked up to be on this board....he has BY FAR our best WR sicne hes been here but that also isnt saying alot...His numbers are reflectives of the team and David Carr's success...his breakout year was also the year DC threw for a bunch of yards and the team nearly went .500...AJ is no different than any other player in that he is going to have to step up to make this team successful....IMO his grade as a Texan so far is about a B-....
 
tsip said:
"the players do not play up to the "fans expectations", they play to their own expectations. "

...a player that has lttle or no self-motivation is not going to last long in the NFL IMO. If a player can only play his best when he exists in a 'perfect scenario,' he is in for a rude awakening. Bad coaching alone does not account 100% for missed tackles/dropped balls/poor reads/lack of effort,etc., especially when a player has been playing football his entire life. Putting forth maximum effort is not something that 'just' happens--it's part of 'who' you are as a person and should not depend upon everything going your way...
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In a perfect world...Yes.

But I believe human nature wins out eventually.

Our players must have done something right, most of them are still here.

Capers and company are gone. Not too many of them have been hired by other teams.

Now we will see what our players are made of.
 
i have not read all the previous posts. but my impression on andre is that he is a great athlete first and a receiver second. he doesnt always drag his last foot. he doesnt catch the ball well in traffic. he doesnt have great wr instincs.

he could be a very good wr. but wr is a postion he was put into because of his great athletic ability, not a postion he was "born for".
 
just wondering.. if AJ is 80 wonder what Moulds will be ? If I recall he was 80 with the Bills :stirpot:
 
tsip said:
Carr better get use to throwing on the run because that's a big part of Kubiak's system, right?
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He better do something right this year or he's toast.
 
HJam72 said:
He better do something right this year or he's toast.
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He's got the weapons
He's got a great NFL Head Coach as the Oline coach
He's got (I mean might get) Reggie Bush
He's got no excuse
 
Texas said:
AJ is top 5 in the league.
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Rofl. Maybe on our team he is a top 5, but he isnt near Top 5 WR in the NFL. He is good, but he has dropped way to many catchable passes he should have caught. He has to adjust more due to the thrower (see my notes on Carr), but he, at times, is decent. He also has his, 'No he didnt' moments (good thing), but he he aint doing that much either.

Johnson right now is probably should be ranked in the top 20 coming somewhere between 15 to 20 imo. That still is good, but he hasnt shown much else (not that he has had many chances to prove he is higher).
 
TexanFan881 said:
He's got the weapons
He's got a great NFL Head Coach as the Oline coach
He's got (I mean might get) Reggie Bush
He's got no excuse
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That's ridic. His OL is basically the same. Until that OL proves they can keep people out of his face, he gets a pass.
 
If Kubiak can't get Carr back to either 2004 level or above, I'd say Carr is done and I think Kubiak would give him 2 years.. 2nd year he should be producing at least above average in the league IMO

granted I know the team will struggle with a changing of everything but we have
added a legit Center,a legit TE,a real #2 WR and depending on the draft a possible fast Rb and who knows what else with the other rounds of the draft.
 
Dime said:
Rofl. Maybe on our team he is a top 5, but he isnt near Top 5 WR in the NFL. He is good, but he has dropped way to many catchable passes he should have caught. He has to adjust more due to the thrower (see my notes on Carr), but he, at times, is decent. He also has his, 'No he didnt' moments (good thing), but he he aint doing that much either.

Johnson right now is probably should be ranked in the top 20 coming somewhere between 15 to 20 imo. That still is good, but he hasnt shown much else (not that he has had many chances to prove he is higher).
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Did someone not just show the statistic? 4% of his passes this year, 2.9%of his passes last year where dropped. The whole dropped thing is overblown. Yes he has at times struggled, and they tend to come in bunches, but that is not something which will hold him back IF he is determined to improve on it. The offseason before his Pro-Bowl year, he worked extra with on his catching and it translated to great success. If he wants to be the best I think this team is ready to take him to some great individual success (along with a few W's along the way, of course).
 
Wolf said:
If Kubiak can't get Carr back to either 2004 level or above, I'd say Carr is done and I think Kubiak would give him 2 years.. 2nd year he should be producing at least above average in the league IMO

granted I know the team will struggle with a changing of everything but we have
added a legit Center,a legit TE,a real #2 WR and depending on the draft a possible fast Rb and who knows what else with the other rounds of the draft.
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According to David there are a lot of similarities with what he ran at Fresno State. If that's true perhaps he could be up too speed a lot sooner. Just wondering if we can be more optomistic. I think the real question will be whether the receivers get open and are in the places they are suppose to be. May be he has been waiting for people to get to where they were suppose to. All I know is that I'm hoping for one heck of a lot improvement by everyone on the offense. Our receiving coor should be a great deal better than last year.
 
Vinny said:
Ted Marchibroda had some interesting comments last year. He was doing the color for the Colts (he is their ex-HC) and said that Carr was easy to defend because he struggles hitting players in stride and tends to throw to players standing still or coming back to the ball in zones. It had to be frustrating for AJ last year since he caught so many hitch passes where he was a sitting duck and was getting creamed as soon as he caught the ball. Carr has never been the kind of player to fit a ball in a small window....at least not yet. He has a lazer for an arm...but he is wooden and not real instinctive. I think this has hurt all the receivers...including AJ.
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Nice points. Though he sure did hit Gaffney in stride last year in the shoulder pads--part of me wonders if that play was the straw ended up with Gaff to the Eagles--sure was memorable.

I will say that it is hard to tell how much of Carr is Carr and how much of it is the system they were trying to do. Interesting hearing Carr talk about the current offensive scheme feeling more like what he did in college.

As for AJ, he wasn't OK for much of last season. The back of the knee injury he had is super painful and when he came back, he was not 100%. I have no doubt that if he is healthy, he is going to tear things up--if his stats are down at all, it will be because it won't be just the AJ show. Last season, the team made a point to say they were gonna try to find ways to get the ball to AJ more. (the hitch, puke) If everyone knows that this is what you are trying to do, you will never get the ball in good position.

If we have an offense with a legit TE, legit pass catching stud running backs, a legit second receiver, trying to find ways to get the ball to AJ won't be an issue. He will get his catches and when he does he will have more room to run after the catch.

BTW, I think it is cool that AJ recruited Moulds to come here. The best players want good players around them. It instantly makes everyone better and it is nice to have a mentor that you can respect.

The key is the oline--the book against the Texans has been to bring the kitchen sink against Carr with a cover 2. Hopefully that book gets changed.
 
I disagree...AJ is one of the top 5...I see it Randy Moss - Marvis Harrison - TO - Chad Johnson - Andre Johnson...Whos better fit to take his 5th? The reason he dropped soo many catchable passes is because they 90% of the time came his directio alot faster then they should because Carr had to realease it before getting sacked...Give it a line and even ur W's would look better...Ok maybes hes top 10 because Hines Ward is as good and im sure theres a few more im not looking at.
 
Hulk75 said:
Now we can all sleepJK:) ........Remember this is all opinion and I really think some of you guys perception on Carrs game is faulted do to the fact of the coaching he has recieved those far.
We will see though right.:)
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I hope you are right. I wouldn't mind being wrong on this at all. I'm ready to see our new team on the field, purged and ready to compete.
 
I think AJ was top 5 at one time (first half of 2004) and has the potential to be even #1 (possibly), but he's only top 20 in terms of overall perfermance so far. Some of that is his fault, but most of it is coaching, Carr, O-line, no #2 (until now), etc.
 
Texas said:
I disagree...AJ is one of the top 5...I see it Randy Moss - Marvis Harrison - TO - Chad Johnson - Andre Johnson...Whos better fit to take his 5th? The reason he dropped soo many catchable passes is because they 90% of the time came his directio alot faster then they should because Carr had to realease it before getting sacked...Give it a line and even ur W's would look better...Ok maybes hes top 10 because Hines Ward is as good and im sure theres a few more im not looking at.
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Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt, Hines Ward, Joe Horn, Steve Smith, etc
 
I think their a some factors that determined AJ's success. I know they might have been discussed, but here is what I think the problem is.

1. OL - Carr has an average of say 2 seconds with a 4-man rush and 1 second for a blitz before the pass rush has arrived, not enough time for AJ

2. coverage - Defenses were able to roll coverage to AJ's side, because DD doesn't have break away speed and our other two WR's were single covered

3. attitude - I will put myself into the head of AJ: The Qb snaps the ball I beat the first guy. "Where's the ball?" Oh QB is sacked or running for his life again. Other scenario: WR screen to Aj (defense didn't see that coming)

Do you ever think he is tired of the same old stuff? This is just my list. The 3rd may not apply at all, but it seems like a basic human response to the situation.
 
Texas said:
I disagree...AJ is one of the top 5...I see it Randy Moss - Marvis Harrison - TO - Chad Johnson - Andre Johnson...Whos better fit to take his 5th? The reason he dropped soo many catchable passes is because they 90% of the time came his directio alot faster then they should because Carr had to realease it before getting sacked...Give it a line and even ur W's would look better...Ok maybes hes top 10 because Hines Ward is as good and im sure theres a few more im not looking at.
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So he is better then, all these folks.. I would agree on some.. but not all right now


Steve Smith..
Todd Pinkston
Reggie Brown
Terry Glenn
Plaxico
Toomer
Bradon Llyod
Muhsin Muhammad
Rod Smith
Ashley Lelie
Ike Hilliard
Michael Clayton
Joey Galloway
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
Keenan McCardell
Eddie Kennison
Brandon Stokley
Chris Chambers
Justin McCareins
Roy Williams
Charles Rogers
Donald Driver
Rod Gardner
Bethel Johnson
Deion Branch
David Givens
Koren Robinson
Travis Taylor
Marcus Robinson
Drew Bennett
Tyrone Calico
Hines Ward
Donte' Stallworth
Joe Horn
Derrick Mason
Mark Clayton
Kevin Curtis
Torry Holt
Isaac Bruce
 
Dime said:
So he is better then, all these folks.. I would agree on some.. but not all right now


Steve Smith..
Todd Pinkston
Reggie Brown
Terry Glenn
Plaxico
Toomer
Bradon Llyod
Muhsin Muhammad
Rod Smith
Ashley Lelie
Ike Hilliard
Michael Clayton
Joey Galloway
Larry Fitzgerald
Anquan Boldin
Keenan McCardell
Eddie Kennison
Brandon Stokley
Chris Chambers
Justin McCareins
Roy Williams
Charles Rogers
Donald Driver
Rod Gardner
Bethel Johnson
Deion Branch
David Givens
Koren Robinson
Travis Taylor
Marcus Robinson
Drew Bennett
Tyrone Calico
Hines Ward
Donte' Stallworth
Joe Horn
Derrick Mason
Mark Clayton
Kevin Curtis
Torry Holt
Isaac Bruce
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Steve Smith.. < AJ right now
Todd Pinkston < AJ
Reggie Brown < AJ
Terry Glenn < AJ due to age and the weopons around him
Plaxico > AJ, but lets see how he does on his own
Toomer < AJ
Bradon Llyod < AJ
Muhsin Muhammad < AJ, proved that last year when he moved to a bad offensive team like AJ
Rod Smith is = to AJ
Ashley Lelie < AJ
Ike Hilliard < AJ
Michael Clayton < AJ
Joey Galloway < AJ, hes a gunner that stretches defenses, AJ is more of a complete threat
Larry Fitzgerald > AJ, right now in the system he plays in, but you also have to take into account the excellent threat opposite from him
Anquan Boldin > See above
Keenan McCardell < AJ, again age issuess
Eddie Kennison < AJ, again age and talent around him
Brandon Stokley < AJ, imagine AJ in that offense and Manning throwing passes to him
Chris Chambers > AJ, can't argue here the guy had a great season
Justin McCareins < AJ
Roy Williams < AJ, but if put in another system would be one of the best recievers in the game.....hmm kinda like AJ (we'll see how his new sytem works out this year.)
Charles Rogers < AJ, wait a second, oh nevermind :rolleyes:
Donald Driver = or > than AJ, what can I say he's a proven vet, underated
Rod Gardner < AJ
Bethel Johnson < AJ
Deion Branch < AJ
David Givens < AJ, thank god he saw the Titans jersey and we didn't sign this guy for #1 money like they did. Moulds is better than him and ALOT cheaper
Koren Robinson < His career has been to shaky, had a solid year though, but need more
Travis Taylor < AJ
Marcus Robinson < AJ
Drew Bennett < AJ
Tyrone Calico < AJ
Hines Ward > AJ, The guy isn't a WR, He's a football player, plain and simple
Donte' Stallworth < AJ
Joe Horn > AJ, again really underated and is a proven Vet
Derrick Mason = or > than AJ and again is really underated
Mark Clayton < AJ
Kevin Curtis < AJ
Torry Holt > AJ, what can I say, the guy is a future hall of famer
Isaac Bruce < AJ

AJ is already better than most WRs in the league, put Moulds next to him and other weopons and lets see how he'll do
 
Carr Bomb said:
Steve Smith.. < AJ right now - Rofl. not a chance.
Todd Pinkston < AJ - Agree
Reggie Brown < AJ - Agree
Terry Glenn < AJ due to age and the weopons around him - Ummm no
Plaxico > AJ, but lets see how he does on his own - Plex is better
Toomer < AJ - Agree
Bradon Llyod < AJ - Agree
Muhsin Muhammad < AJ, proved that last year when he moved to a bad offensive team like AJ - Ummm no
Rod Smith is = to AJ - Not a chance right now
Ashley Lelie < AJ - Agree
Ike Hilliard < AJ - Agree
Michael Clayton < AJ - Agree
Joey Galloway < AJ, hes a gunner that stretches defenses, AJ is more of a complete threat - unproven reliable threat so far
Larry Fitzgerald > AJ, right now in the system he plays in, but you also have to take into account the excellent threat opposite from him
Anquan Boldin > See above
Keenan McCardell < AJ, again age issuess - Age but has experience.
Eddie Kennison < AJ, again age and talent around him - Agree
Brandon Stokley < AJ, imagine AJ in that offense and Manning throwing passes to him - Agree
Chris Chambers > AJ, can't argue here the guy had a great season
Justin McCareins < AJ - Agree
Roy Williams < AJ, but if put in another system would be one of the best recievers in the game.....hmm kinda like AJ (we'll see how his new sytem works out this year.) - he is probably his equal
Charles Rogers < AJ, wait a second, oh nevermind :rolleyes: - Agree
Donald Driver = or > than AJ, what can I say he's a proven vet, underated - Agree
Rod Gardner < AJ - Agree
Bethel Johnson < AJ - Agree
Deion Branch < AJ - darn good.
David Givens < AJ, thank god he saw the Titans jersey and we didn't sign this guy for #1 money like they did. Moulds is better than him and ALOT cheaper - Agree
Koren Robinson < His career has been to shaky, had a solid year though, but need more - Agree
Travis Taylor < AJ - Agree
Marcus Robinson < AJ - Agree
Drew Bennett < AJ - Agree
Tyrone Calico < AJ - Agree
Hines Ward > AJ, The guy isn't a WR, He's a football player, plain and simple - Agree
Donte' Stallworth < AJ - Agree
Joe Horn > AJ, again really underated and is a proven Vet
Derrick Mason = or > than AJ and again is really underated
Mark Clayton < AJ - Agree
Kevin Curtis < AJ - I think he is better then people think he is.
Torry Holt > AJ, what can I say, the guy is a future hall of famer - Agree
Isaac Bruce < AJ - Umm he is better the aj right now.

AJ is already better than most WRs in the league, put Moulds next to him and other weopons and lets see how he'll do
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Thats 14 I believe above AJ at this time. Plus the other 5. Puts AJ at number 20 on the list at this time.
 
Dime said:
Thats 14 I believe above AJ at this time. Plus the other 5. Puts AJ at number 20 on the list at this time.
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Yeah, but its alot bigger than that. Out of those 14 or 20 receivers, if you could switch places with them and AJ, would put up better numbers than AJ in this system. In case anyone hasn't noticed, this hasn't exactly been a stellar place for a WR to cut his teeth and play. Based strictly on potential there wouldn't be more than 3 receivers I would take over AJ, when I made the list I was speaking in the now (this season and previous stats over the last 3 seasons, which is why I gave a few Vets the nod) and trying to be unbiased, hopefully I did that.
 
Oh snap....HEY Dime on the S. Smith I honestly got that backwards....sorry, I have tomorrow off and have been drinking, I hit the wrong <>. Smith is > AJ, but AJ is alot better than Terry Glen, I lived in Dallas, I know. He's nothing but a gunner. Keyshawn was the possession over the middle receiver (made the tough catches) and Witten made the middle of the seam catches, Terry was Bradford/Galloway with better hands. Trust me AJ is a better receiver. You put T. Glenn on this team make him the #1 and take away AJ and Glenn falls flat on his face, he was a #2 receiver on a aging receiver core for a reason


Also Issac Bruce is not greater than AJ, I don't even know how you can say that

Bruce only had about 30 catches and 500 yards on a offensive lead team in the crappiest division in football

AJ had twice as many catches and almost 200 more yards on a crappy defensive lead team in a tough division/conference without playing beside a hall of famer
 
AJ is without a doubt a top receiver in the league and can be a perennial pro bowler with a bit of help. Everyone on this board knows that AJ can play in this league, we aren't absolutely positive about other guys on the offense. Did/does he have weaknesses in his game? Yeah, he should be more consistent catching deep balls, but IMO he is one of the best short-route runners in the league and should flourish in the new offense. I do want to see the team not rely so much on WR screens (only when it's obviously there) and allow him to try to break routes he cathces 8-12 yards downfield...
 
Carr Bomb said:
Steve Smith.. < AJ right now
Todd Pinkston < AJ
Reggie Brown < AJ
Terry Glenn < AJ due to age and the weopons around him
Plaxico > AJ, but lets see how he does on his own
Toomer < AJ
Bradon Llyod < AJ
Muhsin Muhammad < AJ, proved that last year when he moved to a bad offensive team like AJ
Rod Smith is = to AJ
Ashley Lelie < AJ
Ike Hilliard < AJ
Michael Clayton < AJ
Joey Galloway < AJ, hes a gunner that stretches defenses, AJ is more of a complete threat
Larry Fitzgerald > AJ, right now in the system he plays in, but you also have to take into account the excellent threat opposite from him
Anquan Boldin > See above
Keenan McCardell < AJ, again age issuess
Eddie Kennison < AJ, again age and talent around him
Brandon Stokley < AJ, imagine AJ in that offense and Manning throwing passes to him
Chris Chambers > AJ, can't argue here the guy had a great season
Justin McCareins < AJ
Roy Williams < AJ, but if put in another system would be one of the best recievers in the game.....hmm kinda like AJ (we'll see how his new sytem works out this year.)
Charles Rogers < AJ, wait a second, oh nevermind :rolleyes:
Donald Driver = or > than AJ, what can I say he's a proven vet, underated
Rod Gardner < AJ
Bethel Johnson < AJ
Deion Branch < AJ
David Givens < AJ, thank god he saw the Titans jersey and we didn't sign this guy for #1 money like they did. Moulds is better than him and ALOT cheaper
Koren Robinson < His career has been to shaky, had a solid year though, but need more
Travis Taylor < AJ
Marcus Robinson < AJ
Drew Bennett < AJ
Tyrone Calico < AJ
Hines Ward > AJ, The guy isn't a WR, He's a football player, plain and simple
Donte' Stallworth < AJ
Joe Horn > AJ, again really underated and is a proven Vet
Derrick Mason = or > than AJ and again is really underated
Mark Clayton < AJ
Kevin Curtis < AJ
Torry Holt > AJ, what can I say, the guy is a future hall of famer
Isaac Bruce < AJ

AJ is already better than most WRs in the league, put Moulds next to him and other weopons and lets see how he'll do
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The one's I bolded are the one's I don't agree with. I think you are underrating AJ just a little bit. I don't know how you can say that Plaxico is better than Steve Smith, Steve is one of the best if not the best WR in the league and Plaxico was very inconsistant at the end of the year.
 
TexanFan881 said:
The one's I bolded are the one's I don't agree with. I think you are underrating AJ just a little bit. I don't know how you can say that Plaxico is better than Steve Smith, Steve is one of the best if not the best WR in the league and Plaxico was very inconsistant at the end of the year.
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damn achohol.....look above, I already said I messed up on Steve Smith, I simply hit the wrong <> :brickwall ok. I listed Plaxico better because he's already proven what he can do on two different teams in two different systems under two different young QBs (look at the numbers), having said that does that mean I'll take Plax over AJ- No, I was simply taking off the Texans hat and being a unbiased fan, I like AJ much better, he has more upside then most if not all of the WRs on this list, but thats not what I was grading him against, that the reason why I even put Joe Horn ahead of him as far as last year goes, just trying to be unbiased
 
Where i am coming from is proven players who have earned thier spot to AJ who has proven himself a bit, but not proven to be more then the others at this time. Now, that being said, he has potential to put most of them in the dirt, big time, but he just hasnt done it yet.
 
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