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Interesting observation about McNair's Kubiak hiring

chuckm said:
hey guess what? another Vince/Bush thread ...... congrats


pffft, I'm one of the "Trade Down" people. Neither player can win in Houston now.

There are too many loyal to Carr. too many who don't give Dominack Davis enough love. Too many who want bush and too many who want Young. So now, with all the hype, some faction of the fans will feel sleighted.

O but while on the topic of "total yards" doesn't Houston have a pretty good kick returner already? Mr. Bush probably wouldn't be returning kicks.
 
I think I'm going to feel like Boston Red Sox fans come May 1st. All the hype of leading up to the 'big day' and then the next day, I'll be like, "uhh...ok'

Of course, the great argument of who ranks higher in MADDEN 07 will begin!!

:)
 
I think it says a lot about Bush when USC doesn't even have him on the FIELD with the national championship on the line, and instead opts to give it to the "other" running back.

I think it says a lot about Bush when a fast college-level defense was able to completely shut down his outside game (his bread and butter), and when said defense doesn't even come close to the speed of defenses in the NFL.

Most importantly, I think it says a lot about the Texans when we ALREADY have a stable of running backs that have produced very well, despite a mediocre OL.

Bush is a talented running back, but there's no reason for this team to burn a #1 pick on a running back that only touches the ball 15 times a game and who can't be relied upon to get the tough yards.
 
bakerooskie said:
Anyone care to do a report on Vince... I WAS'NT TRYING TO TAKE ANYTHING FROM VINCE... He is a great Quarterback, as well as an athlete, but Reggie Bush can energize an offense, and cut through a defense... Here are both players stat's... They are both remarkable...


Yes all true....but Vince is a leader of men who beat down the "energized offense and over came the defense being cut through"

At the end of the day, when all is said and done, Reggie Bush will not handle the ball on EVERY snap - Vince Young will as will Leinhart....

Unless you watched Vince often, you just can't understand the intangibles that he brings to a team. He elevates EVERYONE's game around him. He makes men believe. He distributes the ball well. He is just one of those very rare Joranesque players. That is not to say that Bush is not an amazing physical specimen of a runner...he is no Jordan on the football field though.

Think back to when Jordan played. You could almost FEEL him willing his team to greatness through the TV. I haven't felt that since Montana on the field. Vince gives the same vibe. you just can't believe you are going to lose so long as he is the field general.

Whatever direction Houston goes, Vince, Leinhart or Bush, there is no question the team will be drafting a starter. Even trading down to 5-7 is a good move because this draft is DEEP 5-7 players, who will contribute and be difference makers.

I'll say it again...it is a VERY good time to be interested in the Texans.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
McNair repeatedly says that Kubiak's hometown roots were one of the MAJOR factors in the ultimate decision to offer Kubiak the job. He must say that at least 5 or 6 times.

I saw that too. That's a stupid reason to hire a guy. Kubiak's hometown roots shouldn't have affected McNair's decision whatsoever.

The chance to come home should make things sweeter for Kubiak, but I don't see how it makes a hill of beans to Bob McNair.

Bob McNair seemed confused. He didn't mention Kubiak's stint with the San Francisco 49ers and he seemed kind of fuzzy on some of the other details of Kubiak's background.
 
Erratic Assassin said:
I saw that too. That's a stupid reason to hire a guy. Kubiak's hometown roots shouldn't have affected McNair's decision whatsoever.

The chance to come home should make things sweeter for Kubiak, but I don't see how it makes a hill of beans to Bob McNair.

Bob McNair seemed confused. He didn't mention Kubiak's stint with the San Francisco 49ers and he seemed kind of fuzzy on some of the other details of Kubiak's background.

I think he's opening himself up to a bunch to criticism by harping on the "local" ties. As much as i'd like for them to draft VY, do it because he's worthy of the #1 pick. Not just because he's a houstonian.
 
Was I listening to the wrong press conference because I could have sworn McNair said Kubiak being from Houston was a plus. Not we hired him because he is from here. He went on about Kubiak's track record with Denver his work with the QB's his fit with the Texans and basically said all the right things. Then he addressed the bonus that was the fact that Kubiak was from Houston and his family was here and so on and so forth.
 
chall8 said:
I think it says a lot about Bush when USC doesn't even have him on the FIELD with the national championship on the line, and instead opts to give it to the "other" running back.
First off. The media was ready to string up Pete Carol for that coaching blunder. It was a mistake of the coach not a reflection of Bush's skills. Also they have a First round, big short yardage back, who in this game had been able to get the short yardage easily earlier in the game.

chall8 said:
I think it says a lot about Bush when a fast college-level defense was able to completely shut down his outside game (his bread and butter), and when said defense doesn't even come close to the speed of defenses in the NFL.
Bush was hardly shut down. He broke several decent sized runs, including one to the outside for a key touchdown. Plus he ran right over on of Texans top ranked defenders. Lets not foget what he did to the other defenses he faced.

chall8 said:
Most importantly, I think it says a lot about the Texans when we ALREADY have a stable of running backs that have produced very well, despite a mediocre OL.
Our O-line is very good at run blocking and is Horrible at Pass blocking. All of our running backs are average at best, including DD.

chall8 said:
Bush is a talented running back, but there's no reason for this team to burn a #1 pick on a running back that only touches the ball 15 times a game and who can't be relied upon to get the tough yards.
Young is the highest risk pick. Yes he probably has the highest upside, but he is certainly the highest risk pick.

Becareful what you wish for. We might have Reggie Bush killing us twice a year.
 
Hookem Horns said:
Exactly. The fact that VY will make the Texans more popular in state and would dramatically increase the demand for tickets should just be considered a side effect of making the right decision to "do the most for winning football games".
More popular until the Texans go 2-14 again, he gets sacked a million times, throws 5 interceptions a game, etc., then all the fairweather fans will pack up their orange foam fingers and walk away... in droves.

Making the team popular in Texas is not what is important. WINNING GAMES is what will make the team popular in the long run...

And to no one's surprise it was John "VY's Homer" McClain who asked the "local roots" question. He really needs to come up with some new questions. How about "Was Gary Kubiak the most qualified and experienced applicant?" McClain is a loser.
 
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