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Indy Coach takes knee in 3rd qtr vs NYJ
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Vinny
shiny happy fan
Peyton hurts his ankle or Clark hurts his knee and every nitpicker jumps out of the woodwork and ridicules them for putting style over substance, so I don't have a problem with them making a decision and deciding that the SB trophy is more important than a superficial mystical imaginary trophy. It's a problem that always comes with clinching early and it's just compounded with this streak. I wish we had it.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Yep, no commitment to excellence. Al Davis is turning in his grave.
Yeah, that just happened.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I understand that but c'mon Peyton is the least hit QB in the league. I understand pulling Rogers or Big Ben who are getting smacked down repeatedly but Peyton is rarely touched and never hurt. He clearly was pissed about it.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I understand the fan sentiment and player feelings but I also understand the Colts very unique situation. If they win it all it will be an issue and if they don't, it will also be an issue and another one of those NFL films stories we watch on the NFLnetwork for years to come. I think perhaps Steve Sabol made this call.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
When we played them at Reliant , we pulled our starters out in the 3rd quarter ... didn't we . 
I'm glad they did it and glad they lost. The "Peyton Manning is god" crowd would only get more obnoxious with their overwhelming mancrush if the dude had an undefeated season.
As far as implications for the Texans, that's life in the NFL. This team is not ready for the playoffs. We are a 'baby steps' kind of team. We just obtained our first winning streak last season, so perhaps we can get our first winning season next Sunday. Then - maybe - they can be ready to sniff the playoffs.
As far as implications for the Texans, that's life in the NFL. This team is not ready for the playoffs. We are a 'baby steps' kind of team. We just obtained our first winning streak last season, so perhaps we can get our first winning season next Sunday. Then - maybe - they can be ready to sniff the playoffs.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Agreed. It kinda irked me watching the Colts take a seat, but you're right. They won the right to do what ever the heck they want.
I'm glad they did it and glad they lost. The "Peyton Manning is god" crowd would only get more obnoxious with their overwhelming mancrush if the dude had an undefeated season.
As far as implications for the Texans, that's life in the NFL. This team is not ready for the playoffs. We are a 'baby steps' kind of team. We just obtained our first winning streak last season, so perhaps we can get our first winning season next Sunday. Then - maybe - they can be ready to sniff the playoffs.
Agreed.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
By what standard? You saying we have no chance of beating the Bengals (who we already beat) or Broncos? That seems like the definition of not ready to me - no realistic chance to win. Indy and San Diego are going to have 1st round byes. I don't see any of the other potential teams as unbeatable.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I thought it was weak sauce myself. Let me run off a few points here.
First off, those people paid damn good money for those tickets, and they got the equivelent of an exhibition game. Hooray for them.
Then you have the Colts going for an undefeated season. That is an aswesome goal, and with only 2 games left more easily obtainable then the SB. Sure, that is the ultimate goal, but there can be goals within goals, and that is history making, and in some ways more difficult and memorable than even a SB win. One team must win the SB each year, but a perfect record? How often does that happen? It's like pulling a pitcher in the 8th inning while he is throwing a perfect game just to save his arm.
Ok, injuries. Boo freaking hoo. It's football not tiddlywinks. When was the last time Manning was injured during a game? Hell, I think it was during WW II if I recall. Hell freezes over more often. Besides that, you could say the same thing every game. He is just as likely to be injured in October as in December. Injuries are simply a part of the fabric of the game.
Rest - Ok it sounds good on paper, but is there any shred of evidence at all that teams that rest starters win more Super Bowls? I have yet to see one singletary piece of evidence that indicates that somehow teams that rest thier starters do better in the playoffs. And let's not forget these are usually the elite teams, so it has to be weighted for that - meaning the elite teams are expected to go further anyway. Where's the proof that this does a thing?
Lastly, it impact the integerity of the game when playoff seeding is at stake. I don't mind teams that rest against other teams that are either in or out of the playoff picture. But against teams like the Jets, Texans, Ravens, Broncos, et al opponents should give their best effort for the integrity, dignity, and respect for the game. Fans want to see the best teams get in, not those whose opponents let them in because they played backups. What kind of crapola is that? So ya, I want to see Tom Brady and the gang next week. If the Texans win, I want it to be legit.
That's all. Carry on.
First off, those people paid damn good money for those tickets, and they got the equivelent of an exhibition game. Hooray for them.
Then you have the Colts going for an undefeated season. That is an aswesome goal, and with only 2 games left more easily obtainable then the SB. Sure, that is the ultimate goal, but there can be goals within goals, and that is history making, and in some ways more difficult and memorable than even a SB win. One team must win the SB each year, but a perfect record? How often does that happen? It's like pulling a pitcher in the 8th inning while he is throwing a perfect game just to save his arm.
Ok, injuries. Boo freaking hoo. It's football not tiddlywinks. When was the last time Manning was injured during a game? Hell, I think it was during WW II if I recall. Hell freezes over more often. Besides that, you could say the same thing every game. He is just as likely to be injured in October as in December. Injuries are simply a part of the fabric of the game.
Rest - Ok it sounds good on paper, but is there any shred of evidence at all that teams that rest starters win more Super Bowls? I have yet to see one singletary piece of evidence that indicates that somehow teams that rest thier starters do better in the playoffs. And let's not forget these are usually the elite teams, so it has to be weighted for that - meaning the elite teams are expected to go further anyway. Where's the proof that this does a thing?
Lastly, it impact the integerity of the game when playoff seeding is at stake. I don't mind teams that rest against other teams that are either in or out of the playoff picture. But against teams like the Jets, Texans, Ravens, Broncos, et al opponents should give their best effort for the integrity, dignity, and respect for the game. Fans want to see the best teams get in, not those whose opponents let them in because they played backups. What kind of crapola is that? So ya, I want to see Tom Brady and the gang next week. If the Texans win, I want it to be legit.
That's all. Carry on.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Exactly. If injury is such a concern why are Manning and the starters in the rest of the season when they are up 20 and 30 points?
By the standard that they are not in the playoffs. Besides, I figured the rest of my post after that quote made my sarcasm obvious.
Is that what I was saying?
They are 1-5 in the division. They almost lost a 27 point lead yesterday because they are not worth a dollar (you know, a dollar is good for four quarters).
They may back themselves into the playoffs with some help, but do you honest see a playoff team when you watch the Texans? I don't, but you are welcome to see it any way that you choose.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I usually can't stand Jason Whitlock but he has made some good points in this column and I found this section actually pretty damn funny.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
By the standard that they are not in the playoffs. Besides, I figured the rest of my post after that quote made my sarcasm obvious.
Is that what I was saying?
They are 1-5 in the division. They almost lost a 27 point lead yesterday because they are not worth a dollar (you know, a dollar is good for four quarters).
They may back themselves into the playoffs with some help, but do you honest see a playoff team when you watch the Texans? I don't, but you are welcome to see it any way that you choose.
While I get what you are saying, but I am not going to turn down the trip to playoffs and chance to stay hot (we will have won four games in a row). Honestly, whatever the last team is in the AFC is going to be highly flawed and probably not deserving, but time after time over the last few years, getting in the tournament has been enough for teams to have some timing , luck and match-ups getting them pretty far.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Based on the teams that are going to make the playoffs this year, yes I do. I don't see the Broncos, Jets or Cincy as better than the Texans.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
By the standard that they are not in the playoffs. Besides, I figured the rest of my post after that quote made my sarcasm obvious.
Is that what I was saying?
They are 1-5 in the division. They almost lost a 27 point lead yesterday because they are not worth a dollar (you know, a dollar is good for four quarters).
They may back themselves into the playoffs with some help, but do you honest see a playoff team when you watch the Texans? I don't, but you are welcome to see it any way that you choose.
When I stare really hard at the Texans I see a playoff team.
Then about 30 minutes in they turn into a top ten draft pick team. It's weird how that happens.
Honestly, I see an "entry level" playoff team here. Capable of (most likely) one and done and able to slip in with help from other teams. They remind me of the Oilers the first time they got into the playoffs under Glanville.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Yes, very much like the Cards last year. A team that should most likely be the underdog but is capable of pulling off one or more upsets. Some folks are acting like the team is crap. If they got in and beat Cincy would anyone be surprised? Then if they got paired with Indy would anyone after the last four games with Indy be surprised if the game came down to the last few minutes/seconds? I bet watching Schaub and AJ work would not be Manning's first choice.
Pollardized
Division Champ
Colts are used to being on their knees anyway...
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I wouldn't turn it down, either, and to be quite honest, I'm just happy that the Texans are even in the mix at this point in the season. Actually making the playoffs would be near mind-boggling, so anything beyond that would be mana from heaven.
Y'all are right in looking at it from the bottom up. I was looking top down, but yeah, I can't argue that the sixth seed is usually a 'cusp team' that got the breaks and things went their way to take that last spot.
I suppose my ingrained cynicism about our team sometimes blocks the forest for the trees, but I can see where you're coming from and it makes sense from that perspective.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Funny how we automatically lean towards the negative side. We're jaded, I guess.
yeah, we're birds of a feather as life-long Houston football fans.
GP
Go Texans!
Didn't the Dungy-led Colts basically do the same thing a few seasons ago by laying down and losing to the Titans...ensuring the Titans a playoff spot?
And then we see Fisher doing a charity event for the Colts this season?
Had the Colts' opponent been the TEXANS and not the Jets, you know good and well that Peyton Manning plays the whole game and they try to win.
I now officially hate the Colts more than any other team.
I suspected them of doing this vs. the Titans, and now they did it vs. the Jets when a Jets loss would have helped the Texans.
Suspicion confirmed as fact, in my opinion.
!@#$%^&%$#@!
And then we see Fisher doing a charity event for the Colts this season?
Had the Colts' opponent been the TEXANS and not the Jets, you know good and well that Peyton Manning plays the whole game and they try to win.
I now officially hate the Colts more than any other team.
I suspected them of doing this vs. the Titans, and now they did it vs. the Jets when a Jets loss would have helped the Texans.
Suspicion confirmed as fact, in my opinion.
!@#$%^&%$#@!
GNR87
Colts fan......
I'm a rabid Colts fan and I was disgusted by what happened. You have history staring you in the face. You have the lead. Just 5 quarters of football and you can be mentioned with the greatest of teams.......so you pull the starters?!!?!?! Total BS. Manning was definitely not a happy camper. The Colts sideline look like they wanted to cut somebody up. The Colts message board blew up over this.
GP
Go Texans!
A lot was wrong with what Caldwell did.
He screwed YOUR team, and he also allowed a playoff contender to waltz to an easy victory. Now the Rex Ryan "Christmas Wish List" makes me vomit even more.
This is TWO times that your Colts have done this. They also played a pretty soft game vs. the Titans few seasons ago, which allowed the Titans to get a Wild Card spot. I remember the announcers saying, as Fisher and Dungy embraced and smiled at each other at midfield at the end of that game, "Well, there's two guys who have a great history and rapport with one another from the past..."
I was like, "Pffft! Ya' think??! The Titans got an easy win AND a playoff spot, and the two coaches are basically congratulating each other out there!"
Geez, Louise. I can't wait for the day when the Colts and Titans are on the decline and the Texans are on the upward swing. I hope we pound the crap out of those two teams.
edo783
Hall of Fame
OK, without looking it up, who won the Super Bowl in 1989? OK, now what year did a team have a perfect season and who was the team? See, that's the difference between just winning and making history. Winning is forgotten relatively soon, but history.......... kind of forever.
euro-Texan
Rookie
GNR87
Colts fan......
We definitely screwed ourselves out of history no doubt about it. Like I mentioned the players looked like they were ready jack somebody up big time. The pre-Manning days were terrible as a Colts fan. A lot of 9 win years mixed in with 3 win years. Manning should remain at his level of play for another 3 or 4 years. Unless the Colts draft another pedigree QB you will get your wish of retribution. You'll just have to be patient til then.
