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xtruroyaltyx said:
I think that He gets compared to Vick and McNabb because of their stlye of running...When those guys take off they can normally make amazing things happen, almost like a running back or receiver...Wheras the likes of Elway and Carr just seem to have good speed and tend to run out of bounds when the first defender shows...McNabb and McNair actually run more like that now...thats why its more of a VY/Vick thing because of HOW they run...
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Vick and McNair during their successful years have used their feet to affect their running game.............wherease Elway and Carr have used their feet to affect their passing game.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Vick and McNair during their successful years have used their feet to affect their running game.............wherease Elway and Carr have used their feet to affect their passing game.
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I just think that they were better passers and not as good of runners...Thats all it boils down to IMO...
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think that He gets compared to Vick and McNabb because of their stlye of running...When those guys take off they can normally make amazing things happen, almost like a running back or receiver...Wheras the likes of Elway and Carr just seem to have good speed and tend to run out of bounds when the first defender shows...McNabb and McNair actually run more like that now...thats why its more of a VY/Vick thing because of HOW they run...
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that, and if he's like me(34) and didn't get into football till '94 or something, he probably don't remember seeing Steve Young, Elway, or Montana as much of a rushing threat......... scramblers for sure, but they weren't no Randall Cunningham............ who also just happens to be black.....
 
thunderkyss said:
that, and if he's like me(34) and didn't get into football till '94 or something, he probably don't remember seeing Steve Young, Elway, or Montana as much of a rushing threat......... scramblers for sure, but they weren't no Randall Cunningham............ who also just happens to be black.....
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My 1st Oilers game was in 1975. Been a fan ever since. Steve Young and John Elway started out as as much of a running threat as a passing attack. Oppossing D's constantly had to keep a spy on them to help prevent that. They may not have been as atheletic as Vick, Cunningham or McNabb, but if they didn't see what they liked, they hauled the ball in and ran. Maybe my problem is not so much being a new fan as it is remembering how older guys from another era did it. Any of you remember watching Fran Tarkington? He could put some moves on way back in the early '70's. FWIW, I simply don't like the college style of QB play. IMO, NFL players across the board are much too atheletic for a QB to have CAREER success playing that style of offense. They would be better served to play the QB position and let RB's run the ball.
All of the QB's mentioned ended up as more traditional style QB's because the wear and tear of running the ball against NFL caliber D's is detrimental to the overall health and career longevity of anyone running the football consistantly.
 
Well Anywho...I dont think people give VY enough credit...I don't think he's going to try and run as much as people think...I think he understands and knows when to run....In fact in college he wasn't as run happy as people think...A lot of times he could have ran, but waited instead for a reciever to get open...People just think he's run happy because almost evrtime he ran he ripped of 20+ yards...
 
DocBar said:
Are Titans fans so damn lame they have to come here looking for intelligent conversation or are we just such great fans with outstanding knowledge of the game that NFL fans in general are gravitating to our website? And I was wondering how Carr's college stats looked compared to the other ones posted on this thread. Just because VY happens to be black doesn't mean he has to be compared only to other black QB's(that seems to be how it goes...maybe I'm wrong on that). John Elway and STEVE Young were 2 of the best scrambling QB's in NFL history. So was Fran Tarkington. And DC ain't no slouch at it, either.
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Carr's Career Stats
Year G-GS Att. Comp Int Yds. Pct. TD LG
2001 14-14 533 344 9 4,839 .645 46 79
2000 12-12 349 216 12 2,729 .619 23 73
1999 Redshirted
1998 7-0 41 22 1 228 .537 1 26
1997 4-0 11 5 1 53 .455 0 19
Totals 37-26 934 587 23 7,849 .628 70 79
Here are the stats from the Fresno State web site. His senior season includes post season play. And his 2001 awards.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
Carr's Career Stats
Year G-GS Att. Comp Int Yds. Pct. TD LG
2001 14-14 533 344 9 4,839 .645 46 79
2000 12-12 349 216 12 2,729 .619 23 73
1999 Redshirted
1998 7-0 41 22 1 228 .537 1 26
1997 4-0 11 5 1 53 .455 0 19
Totals 37-26 934 587 23 7,849 .628 70 79
Here are the stats from the Fresno State web site. His senior season includes post season play. And his 2001 awards.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)
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Yeah, and that does what for the Texans? Why don't you post his NFL stats? Or maybe you're a Fresno State fan and just reliving the good times? I really like Brady Quinn, I think I'm going to go brag about his high school stats....
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Yeah, and that does what for the Texans? Why don't you post his NFL stats? Or maybe you're a Fresno State fan and just reliving the good times? I really like Brady Quinn, I think I'm going to go brag about his high school stats....
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Someone specifically asked for Carr's college stats and Brewster was being helpful. It's fine to have an opinion, but don't be a troll and inject useless comments everywhere please.
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
Carr's Career Stats
Year G-GS Att. Comp Int Yds. Pct. TD LG
2001 14-14 533 344 9 4,839 .645 46 79
2000 12-12 349 216 12 2,729 .619 23 73
1999 Redshirted
1998 7-0 41 22 1 228 .537 1 26
1997 4-0 11 5 1 53 .455 0 19
Totals 37-26 934 587 23 7,849 .628 70 79
Here are the stats from the Fresno State web site. His senior season includes post season play. And his 2001 awards.

# Carr's 2001 Awards Johnny Unitas Award
# Football News Offensive Player of the Year
# Sammy Baugh Award
# WAC Offensive Player of the Year
# First-team All-WAC
# CNN/SI Honorable mention All-American
# Sixth player ever with at least 4,000 passing yards/40 TDs
# First in the nation in passing yards (4,308) and TDs (42)
# USA Today National Player of the Week (Oct. 3)
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bigbrewster2000 said:
Hey DocBar did you get those stats? Someone was puting unwanted "TACKS" in front of my posts.
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Yeah, I got 'em. Thanks for humoring my laziness. Sorry to all those offended by that.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Yeah, and that does what for the Texans? Why don't you post his NFL stats? Or maybe you're a Fresno State fan and just reliving the good times? I really like Brady Quinn, I think I'm going to go brag about his high school stats....
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Maybe you're a blowhard who can go sit on a "tacks" site and be a troll. You're on our turf. Go take a powder or something.
 
DocBar said:
Yeah, I got 'em. Thanks for humoring my laziness. Sorry to all those offended by that.
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Do you really care if a Titan fan is miffed? He can't really hurt my feelings. Especially after we sweep the floor with them this year. Back onto the off topic topic:rolleyes: His passing #'s are great comparably. And although his running #'s aren't posted they weren't nearly a good as the other 3. I think he had like 150 or something his senior year.
 
BroussardSaint said:
I,M glad also... Thanks for Reggie:bananasplit:
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I'll be in New Orleans this weekend. My 2nd Fave city in America (behind NYC)

I'm so glad you guys got Reggie, i'd hate to see him twice a year!! congrats
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
Do you really care if a Titan fan is miffed? He can't really hurt my feelings. Especially after we sweep the floor with them this year. Back onto the off topic topic:rolleyes: His passing #'s are great comparably. And although his running #'s aren't posted they weren't nearly a good as the other 3. I think he had like 150 or something his senior year.
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:offtopic LMAO
 
DocBar said:
Any of you remember watching Fran Tarkington? He could put some moves on way back in the early '70's.
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Oh, hell, yeah. I remember him both as a Giant and as a Viking. What was great about Fran was that he didn't run past the line of scrimmage. :) He only ran from sideline to sideline waiting for his receivers to open up.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Oh, hell, yeah. I remember him both as a Giant and as a Viking. What was great about Fran was that he didn't run past the line of scrimmage. :) He only ran from sideline to sideline waiting for his receivers to open up.
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He got the tar sacked out of him each time he made it to the SB, though. :rolleyes:
 
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