I'll bet my moniker against your moniker that Bush won't be on the Texan's roster

[texplayer2]

I don't necessarily disagree with your take, but... why wouldn't the resigning of Dominic Davis dissuade the mock drafters from drafting a RB @ #1? I mean, following the same logic?

You can only play one QB at a time. You can have two or three RB's if you want.

 

[Blake]

I don't necessarily disagree with your take, but... why wouldn't the resigning of Dominic Davis dissuade the mock drafters from drafting a RB @ #1? I mean, following the same logic?

First off, its Domanick Davis. And the reason that logic doesnt show up on mocks is because Bush is the unanimous #1 overall football player. People have doubts about Vince Young. So what makes more sense to you? The Texans take Reggie Bush, who is the unanimous #1 player, and have a 2nd RB who makes a couple of mill a year, or to take Young, who has question marks around him, and have a 2nd QB who makes 8 million a year?

 

[Revolution]

I haven't voted yet, so I am not in just yet. My question is who gets to choose your name? If 400 people beat you, then who gets to choose your name? I am not going to join unless I know I get to choose the new moniker.

 

[Maddict5]

I wouldnt bet my monikor, it is how yall know me here on the boards. A nice friendly bet about avatars on the other hand...

yeah 'awtysst' is the hottest, most requested user-name on this MB..i wouldnt want to lose it either

 

[Tejaspro]

First off, its Domanick Davis. And the reason that logic doesnt show up on mocks is because Bush is the unanimous #1 overall football player. People have doubts about Vince Young. So what makes more sense to you? The Texans take Reggie Bush, who is the unanimous #1 player, and have a 2nd RB who makes a couple of mill a year, or to take Young, who has question marks around him, and have a 2nd QB who makes 8 million a year?

I'll buy that.

 

[Double Barrel]

I voted, but before I read the terms and conditions of voting. I'll never give my avatar choice to another. JUST TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR

 

[TexansLucky13]

The numbers speak for itself....only 9 of 88 voters feel that Vince Young will be on the rosters next year. Yes, mock drafts are need driven. But the top pick is a "i want you" pick, not an "i need you". It's just an added bonus if the top rated Draftee is one of your big needs. But in this case, we need neither a QB or a RB. So if we reduce the "needs" down to the "wants", we see where Reggie fits in. Carr has taken a big extension and unless you "want" a lot of wasted cap space then you would vote for Reggie. On the same token, unless you havent noticed, DD is very fatigued by the end of the game. Reggie would give us more time with DD. So if you are a hard-core DD fan, dont look at it as a replacement. I haven't. Everyone has their own opinions and preferences, though. But after weeks of continuous posting about the RB/VY topic, I have deduced that the VY side of the arguement stems from only a few things.

Most people who are for Vince are either:

1) Big UT fans/alumni

2) Anti-Carr activists

3) Mike Vick enthusiasts

Everyone else is either for trade down or Reggie Bush.

 

[Hottoddie]

you hide and watch.... it will be Reggie Bush, not Vince Young.

I have no plans to hide. I stepped up to the plate & put my moniker where my mouth is. I stand by what I said. Bush will not be on our roster next year.

 

[Hottoddie]

I haven't voted yet, so I am not in just yet. My question is who gets to choose your name? If 400 people beat you, then who gets to choose your name? I am not going to join unless I know I get to choose the new moniker.

If there are multiple takers on this wager, there'll be a drawing, of sorts, to choose who gets the honors. Something like, me picking a number between zero & the total number of winning participants.

It's in the original thread. Everyone gets an equal shot, but only one gets to choose the name. However, there are 9 other posters in the "Bush won't be on the Texans next year" side of the bet. That means there'll be 9 shots at changing someone's moniker. I guess this post is a moot point though, because Bush won't be a Texan next year!!!

 

[threetoedpete]

I say Bush is coming on Thursday to pick his locker and get measured for his uniform. Maybe not the locker/uniform part but he will be here Thursday I believe.

Agreed, was that drool slipping cubes lips on the little film at the front door? The D may be supect, but with molds in the fold, this team will score some points. Wish it was brick. What's your new name again ?

 

[TexansLucky13]

It's in the original thread. Everyone gets an equal shot, but only one gets to choose the name. However, there are 9 other posters in the "Bush won't be on the Texans next year" side of the bet. That means there'll be 9 shots at changing someone's moniker. I guess this post is a moot point though, because Bush won't be a Texan next year!!!

How come your sig mentions D'Brick, yet you are so fond of Vince Young? Unless God intervenes, we will only get one of them. (personally, I think God would have to intervene a lot for Vince to be drafted, but whatever).

 

[Porky]

Any chance this money where your mouth is deal could be real cash. Cause if so, count me in. This is just silly. I almost feel sorry for the poor sap.

 

[Hottoddie]

How come your sig mentions D'Brick, yet you are so fond of Vince Young? Unless God intervenes, we will only get one of them. (personally, I think God would have to intervene a lot for Vince to be drafted, but whatever).

Because I want the Texans to take D'Brick, but I'm really beginning to believe that they'll take Young. I'm not fond of VY, but I am intrigued by the possibilities he presents.

If the Texans were as sold on Bush as the media & over 90% of this board is, then why would they be bringing Young in at all? It's not fair to him & I don't buy the theory that some on this board subscribe to, & that's that they are just trying to pacify the UT fans. I call that theory a bunch of bull.

I'll admit that Bush put up some impressive numbers on his Pro Day. However, I believe that the Texans had already decided on Young & were hoping that Bush would flop, but he didn't. As a result, the Texans have to think long & hard about their decision. A co-worker of mine suggested that Young didn't run as fast as he can during his Pro Day intentionally. I don't know this to be true, but if it is, & he comes in here Friday & runs in the 4.40-4.49 range, that might be all it takes to sway the team.

I want D'Brick & more picks, but I'll be happy with Young, & even Bush, if that's who the team decides to pick.

 

[swtbound07]

I think a lot of people will be in for a shock on the 29th...one way or another. The legion of reggie fans could be stunned! What the hey....swtbound07 reeks of factual inaccuracy anyway. Its long overdue for a new moniker

 

[Hottoddie]

I think a lot of people will be in for a shock on the 29th...one way or another. The legion of reggie fans could be stunned! What the hey....swtbound07 reeks of factual inaccuracy anyway. Its long overdue for a new moniker

I wouldn't be worrying about your moniker, what we really need to start thinking about, is what names we can come up with for the 84+ (so far) posters that have hitched their wagons to the wrong horse.

 

[texasguy346]

I wouldn't be worrying about your moniker, what we really need to start thinking about, is what names we can come up with for the 84+ (so far) posters that have hitched their wagons to the wrong horse.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though you'll only be able to change as many monikers as the number of peole saying that Bush won't be a Texan. As it stand now it appears 9 have voted "No" so in essence only 9 from the "Yes" group can go head to head for naming rights.

That's how I understand it at least since, if RB were to be drafted on April 29th, all 84 who voted "Yes" wouldn't have enough names to change.

 

[Hervoyel]

I'm not going to vote in your poll but that's just because I like changing my avatar all the time and I don't want to get stuck with just one (even if it's one I like) for too long.

I will say this though. I think you're wrong. I don't think there's any chance that Vince Young is coming to Houston to play. Every day I see little signs that this is true. An example would be Eric Moulds quote in the Chronicle today.

"It's tough because it limits your abilities," Moulds said. "But I have great memories. It was just frustrating playing with so many different quarterbacks. You just had to keep adjusting. It's not like that here. David Carr is the quarterback, and he's going to be here the whole time. I just have to adjust to him."

Now who do you think told him that David Carr was going to be the QB "the whole time" and that David Carr would be the only guy he would have to adjust to? I'm betting Gary Kubiak told him that because Moulds will probably play here 2-3 years and we've extended Carr for 3 years and that's the end of that.

Maybe the team doesn't pick Reggie Bush and they trade down or something but I'm as certain as I could possibly be that whatever happens it won't be Vince Young.

 

[Texansfan30]

As someone who believes we should take Reggie, I have a question for Vince fans.

Do you honestly believe VY will be running around in the NFL in 4 years the way he did against USC? Do you think his arm strength is good enough to make it as a pocket passer?

I am a UT alum who loved what VY did in the Rose Bowl. He is probably one of the top 2 or 3 college QB of all time, if not the best. He has the heart of a true champion, and the thing that impresses me the most about him is his demeanor - how calm he was during that 4th quarter, even being down by more than 1 score.

But even more than a UT fan, I am a TEXANS fan. I want what is best for us long term, and that is Reggie Bush. I honestly believe that while QBs last longer in the NFL than RBs, VY will not be the same guy in 4 years. The team that drafts him will have him running a lot less. Remember Michael Vick? How explosive he was? Years later, he is not the player he once was, even if he is still good. How many injuries has he sustained now? No one is going to want to invest $50 million in VY to have him take one too many hits from an AJ Hawk or Jonathan Vilma, and spend 8-10 weeks in a leg cast. He will have to change his game somewhat to reflect the realities of NFL life.

It's easy to remember VY's incredible USC game. It's also easy for me to recall that he ran up a lot of yards on Kansas, Baylor, and Okla State. Remember Texas A&M? They gameplanned him well. Remember Ohio State? After that first drive, they bottled up VY's running ability. EVERY NFL TEAM will gameplan him.

Now as to Reggie: He is quite simply the MOST explosive player I have seen in years. He may be a bust - that is a risk you run with every player. But the upside is incredible with him. He is only 20 right now - in 8 years he will still be a damn good player, only 28 years of age. Plus, having played with LenDale White and on a great USC team, he is not overused. Remember Cedric Benson? They ran the crap out of him for years. Reggie split time, not because he was hurt - but because they had a lot of talented guys on his team. He's not beaten down. His performance on the pro day only reinforces my belief he is the right man for the Texans.

And finally, the reason I am so high on him for us is this: It's not because Reggie will run (or catch) for 2500 yards each year. It's that when teams gameplan for him, they will inevitably open up Andre, or Moulds, or DD, or any of the other weapons we will have. That is the true nature of football - it's FINDING MATCHUPS. And Reggie will give Kubiak the chance to make other teams pick their poison. Imagine them stacking the line, and Carr audibles Bush into the slot. Or he lines up in the slot, and then retreats to the backfield. Him simply going in motion will draw 2 guys onto that side of the field.

The opportunities for matchups are endless. The real question is who they should take with their 2nd pick. Here's hoping Marcus McNeill falls to us......

 

[Texan Asylum]

As someone who believes we should take Reggie, I have a question for Vince fans.

Do you honestly believe VY will be running around in the NFL in 4 years the way he did against USC? Do you think his arm strength is good enough to make it as a pocket passer?

I am a UT alum who loved what VY did in the Rose Bowl. He is probably one of the top 2 or 3 college QB of all time, if not the best. He has the heart of a true champion, and the thing that impresses me the most about him is his demeanor - how calm he was during that 4th quarter, even being down by more than 1 score.

But even more than a UT fan, I am a TEXANS fan. I want what is best for us long term, and that is Reggie Bush. I honestly believe that while QBs last longer in the NFL than RBs, VY will not be the same guy in 4 years. The team that drafts him will have him running a lot less. Remember Michael Vick? How explosive he was? Years later, he is not the player he once was, even if he is still good. How many injuries has he sustained now? No one is going to want to invest $50 million in VY to have him take one too many hits from an AJ Hawk or Jonathan Vilma, and spend 8-10 weeks in a leg cast. He will have to change his game somewhat to reflect the realities of NFL life.

It's easy to remember VY's incredible USC game. It's also easy for me to recall that he ran up a lot of yards on Kansas, Baylor, and Okla State. Remember Texas A&M? They gameplanned him well. Remember Ohio State? After that first drive, they bottled up VY's running ability. EVERY NFL TEAM will gameplan him.

Now as to Reggie: He is quite simply the MOST explosive player I have seen in years. He may be a bust - that is a risk you run with every player. But the upside is incredible with him. He is only 20 right now - in 8 years he will still be a damn good player, only 28 years of age. Plus, having played with LenDale White and on a great USC team, he is not overused. Remember Cedric Benson? They ran the crap out of him for years. Reggie split time, not because he was hurt - but because they had a lot of talented guys on his team. He's not beaten down. His performance on the pro day only reinforces my belief he is the right man for the Texans.

And finally, the reason I am so high on him for us is this: It's not because Reggie will run (or catch) for 2500 yards each year. It's that when teams gameplan for him, they will inevitably open up Andre, or Moulds, or DD, or any of the other weapons we will have. That is the true nature of football - it's FINDING MATCHUPS. And Reggie will give Kubiak the chance to make other teams pick their poison. Imagine them stacking the line, and Carr audibles Bush into the slot. Or he lines up in the slot, and then retreats to the backfield. Him simply going in motion will draw 2 guys onto that side of the field.

The opportunities for matchups are endless. The real question is who they should take with their 2nd pick. Here's hoping Marcus McNeill falls to us......

I like the way you talk, ummm huh.

 

[Mike Kerns]

Still hoping for Eric Winston, but I will take McNeil.

 

[Hottoddie]

You know, the Bush camp doesn't seem to me, to be as happy as one would expect for an upcoming #1 overall pick. Could it be that they know Houston might draft Young?

 

[Mike Kerns]

You know, the Bush camp doesn't seem to me, to be as happy as one would expect for an upcoming #1 overall pick. Could it be that they know Houston might draft Young?

Not really, I still think they may trade down. If I knew it was done with a contract in hand, I would be going crazy. Not scared of the Vince possibility anymore. I really was right there after the Rose Bowl, but everyone (almost everyone) has come to their senses.

 

[Hottoddie]

Not really, I still think they may trade down. If I knew it was done with a contract in hand, I would be going crazy. Not scared of the Vince possibility anymore. I really was right there after the Rose Bowl, but everyone (almost everyone) has come to their senses.

Guess I fit in with the "almost everyone" crowd, because I still don't buy into the Bush craze. He's definitely got potential, but until he proves he can run up the middle, he'll remain a question mark for me.

By the way, has anyone pointed out that Bush was 5lbs. lighter for his Pro Day than he was for the combine? Hmmmm..........

 

[Mike Kerns]

Guess I fit in with the "almost everyone" crowd, because I still don't buy into the Bush craze. He's definitely got potential, but until he proves he can run up the middle, he'll remain a question mark for me.

As will Young for me until he proves he can throw first & run 2nd. With a better delivery too.

 

[infantrycak]

By the way, has anyone pointed out that Bush was 5lbs. lighter for his Pro Day than he was for the combine? Hmmmm..........

Why point out something that wasn't true?

Bush was 201 lbs at the combine. McClain confused things by saying he expected him to be about 207 lbs or so. The official weight was 201 lbs though so if it isn't just scale difference he actually gained a lb.

 

[MorKnolle]

Why point out something that wasn't true?

Bush was 201 lbs at the combine. McClain confused things by saying he expected him to be about 207 lbs or so. The official weight was 201 lbs though so if it isn't just scale difference he actually gained a lb.

Quite right, I'm not sure where all these expectations of him weighing 208 lbs. came from, maybe McClain botched that up somewhere along the way, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[Hottoddie]

Just wanted to remind all those that voted yes, to enjoy your monikers for the next 2 weeks, because after that........

 

[Porky]

Just wanted to remind all those that voted yes, to enjoy your monikers for the next 2 weeks, because after that........

Dude you are whacked. Bush will be a Texan come April 29th. Good luck with this little deal, and make sure to take the meds, maybe they will make you lucid again someday.

 

[hollywood_texan]

I don't believe the Texans are going to draft Bush. I truely believe that they want Young, & I'm willing to make a friendly (non-monetary) bet to prove it.

Here's the deal. The Texans have to have Bush on the roster (active or injured) for the opening regular season game next year. If he is, you can change my moniker (Hottoddie) to what ever you want it to be. If he's not, I get to do the same thing to your's. The change will stay in effect until next year's draft. Also, the name can't be obscene. If there are multiple takers on this wager, there'll be a drawing, of sorts, to choose who gets the honors. Something like, me picking a number between zero & the total number of winning participants.

Now, anyone that believes like I do & wants to join the "Bush won't be on the Texan's roster come opening day team", you are eligible to throw your moniker into the pot as well. When we win, we'll just divide up the spoils & start changing monikers.

I'll make this a public poll, so that we can all see who's on what side. If you vote, you're throwing your moniker into the pool & there's no taking it back.
So, how about it, any takers?

Actually, I do take it back. I voted in the poll before I read the statement.

Sorry, but there was no clear indication of that deal when I voted because this is a long thread.

 

[kastofsna]

i'll bet all 6 of my monikers bush will be a texan.

 

[kcwilson]

Hottodie ought to find a way of voting twice on the poll so he has a chance to rename himself.

For the record, I would be happy with VY or RB, but since I have my choice, I'd take Reggie.

 

[Hottoddie]

Actually, I do take it back. I voted in the poll before I read the statement.

Sorry, but there was no clear indication of that deal when I voted because this is a long thread.

What's the length of the thread got to do with it? All you had to do was read the first post.

 

[hollywood_texan]

What's the length of the thread got to do with it? All you had to do was read the first post.

Here is what happened. I looked at the last posting first.

Then went to the first page and saw the survey. Voted on the survey.

Your survey title doesn't say I am betting my moniker if I participate in the survey. Your thread title says you will bet your moniker.

Here is my defense, before you agree to any terms on the Internet, you are required to check a box to ensure that you have read the terms and agreement.

If I had know and if it was posted clearly what the survey meant, I wouldn't have participated.

I think you are right, Bush will not be drafted due to high a demand for a high contract. However, I am not a betting man.

I am out on the bet.

Good luck.

 

[Mike Kerns]

think you are right, Bush will not be drafted due to high a demand for a high contract.

I am actually believing that is what will come to pass. Would like to keep my moniker, but a bet is a bet.

 

[Hottoddie]

Your survey title doesn't say I am betting my moniker if I participate in the survey. Your thread title says you will bet your moniker.

Whatever.

However, I will point out one mistake in your excuse, the title says "I'll bet my moniker against your moniker that Bush won't be on the Texan's roster."

 

[hollywood_texan]

Whatever.

However, I will point out one mistake in your excuse, the title says "I'll bet my moniker against your moniker that Bush won't be on the Texan's roster."

I agree with your position. So how can be against each other if we are on the same side?

There is another point of the thread title, it isn't on point regarding the survey being a binding bet for anyone's moniker, it basically just asks for someone's opinion. Which I gave by the way.

My moniker is out of the hat and sorry for the confusion.

 

[Hottoddie]

Mods, this is from NFL.com, so I'm hoping this doesn't violate any copy right laws, by me copying & pasting it here. Unless I'm mistaken, the Texan's site is owned by NFL.com.

Oooooooh, am I starting to get a good feeling about this bet, & that's a fact jack! Read it & weep, Bush fans.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9381854

Draftees are up, down and all around

By Adam Schefter
Special to NFL.com

(April 17, 2006) -- For the first time, there is legitimate reason to think that USC running back Reggie Bush is not going to be wind up in Houston, the city that currently holds the No. 1 overall pick.

Reggie Bush could still go to Houston, or another team, at No. 1
This does not come from one source or from one team. This comes from multiple sources, from across the league, without any agenda to push.

The mounting evidence includes this:

As of Monday, the Texans had not had any contract discussions with Bush and his representatives. None.

Yet the Texans have approached North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams, trying to see if he would be receptive to discussing a deal.

But the evidence goes beyond contracts. When Bush was in Houston, a certain segment of the organization never introduced itself to the running back. This might not be unusual, but if the organization was convinced it was taking a certain player, it should be rolling out the welcome mat with everyone trying to make the player feel as at home as possible. This, according to those who know Bush, did not happen.

Then there is the simple and significant matter of need. Within the past year, the Texans signed running back Domanick Davis to a long-term extension. They also drafted wide receiver Jerome Mathis, the return man who went to the Pro Bowl during his rookie season. The Texans know they have a dependable running back and return man, the two spots Bush fills.

Houston's greater need is at defensive end, and, just as much, at left tackle, a position that could be filled by Virginia's D'Brickashaw Ferguson, who is expected to go in the top four picks.

Yet whether Houston winds up with Williams or Ferguson is unknown. What is known is that Bush no longer is a lock for Houston.

As a person in the Bush camp said Monday, "Do I have a feeling that Reggie is going to Houston? No, I have a feeling that he's not."

 

[Mike Kerns]

There is already an entire thread about this

 

[texasguy346]

An important thing to keep in mind with all this draft guesstimation is that when Miami took Ronnie Brown in the first round last year they never even had him come in for a visit. They were satisified with him after interviewing him at his pro day. They did, however, bring in Cedric Benson for a visit. Basically don't go getting an itchy trigger finger either way.

 

[JAXwithanX]

Not really, I still think they may trade down. If I knew it was done with a contract in hand, I would be going crazy. Not scared of the Vince possibility anymore. I really was right there after the Rose Bowl, but everyone (almost everyone) has come to their senses.

Yeah....i really believe we are trading down. And whats funny is i had wanted to draft Bush or Young the whole time and kept thinking about how dumb it would be to trade down nd especially after the Brees signing by N.O. But the more i've thought about it (not even taking into consideration the 'reports' of who we have and haven't been talking to) i think it makes the most sense to trade down if the right package comes along. And just because N.O. seems to be the team most likely to trade down, in a way that can also help us. See any team really in love with Leinart, Bush, or hell even Young could be really worried about someone snagging that Number 2 and getting their player. So in a crazy admittedly abstract way....it makes our Number 1 pick potentially even more valuable....i wouldn't at all be surprised to see something like the R. Williams - Ditka trade....except us not moving down as far. Well i see that as likely as i see us drafting Bush (who i had figured was our man since day 1 including after the Rose Bowl). Now i go to UT and i'm going to admit i think VY is going to be a great QB and like i've said a lot too, i believe we have more room for improvement in the QB department than the RB department....but i'm a rational fan and realize that unless we draft Young in a trade down at 6 or something like that....he ain't coming here. This organization can't afford a bust at the number 1 pick right now, and with an all new FO....you can bet they aren't jumping at the idea of such a risky pick. What it can afford though is to pick up as many 1, 2, and 3 round picks as it can and possibly become way better overall than the upgrade (which yes it is an upgrade although how much is argueable) at just RB or QB.

 

[Hottoddie]

There is already an entire thread about this

Yes, but I'm sure you see how relevant this is to this thread.

Now, let's see, what would be a good substitution for "Frak The Jags"?

 

[kastofsna]

should i just remind everyone how ridiculous adam schefter is? the only inside ino he has is what you and i read and hear. he sees that the texans are talking to mario williams and, in his OPINION, he thinks this is a sign that bush will not go #1. he did the same thing last year with the dolphins and braylon edwards...he's clueless.

 

[Mike Kerns]

Yes, but I'm sure you see how relevant this is to this thread.

Now, let's see, what would be a good substitution for "Frak The Jags"?

I'm a good sport. Like I said, A bet is a bet. If this comes to pass, I will live up to my end of it.

 

[Tale Gator]

I'm a good sport. Like I said, A bet is a bet. If this comes to pass, I will live up to my end of it.

Will Reggie Bush be on the opening roster next year?

Should have made your poll question clear -- many people probably didn't realize that just voting in a poll could equal a legit bet.

 

[Haams]

Whoa, hold up. I didn't know anything about a bet. Y'all know I'm pulling for Vince - my eternal pessimism just drove me to vote for Bush. Trying to prepare myself now for another draft day dissapointment.

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

You think we could take Pope in the second? OR does someone else have their eye on him?

 

[hollywood_texan]

Whoa, hold up. I didn't know anything about a bet. Y'all know I'm pulling for Vince - my eternal pessimism just drove me to vote for Bush. Trying to prepare myself now for another draft day dissapointment.

I brought this up a last week. You can see what I posted at the top of the page.

Here is what happened. I looked at the last posting first.

Then went to the first page and saw the survey. Voted on the survey.

Your survey title doesn't say I am betting my moniker if I participate in the survey. Your thread title says you will bet your moniker.

Here is my defense, before you agree to any terms on the Internet, you are required to check a box to ensure that you have read the terms and agreement.

If I had know and if it was posted clearly what the survey meant, I wouldn't have participated.

I think you are right, Bush will not be drafted due to high a demand for a high contract. However, I am not a betting man.

I am out on the bet.

Good luck.

 

[hanshintigers74]

bush will be part of the opeaning day game.so houston's fan will come see him play and then sit him down.money is all about football.

 

[MorKnolle]

You think we could take Pope in the second? OR does someone else have their eye on him?

No. I think he'll go in the end of the 1st but even if he's available I don't see us taking a TE at #33 after bringing in Putzier. If he somehow fell to #65 then I could see that, but not at #33.

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

No. I think he'll go in the end of the 1st but even if he's available I don't see us taking a TE at #33 after bringing in Putzier. If he somehow fell to #65 then I could see that, but not at #33.

I keep hearing people talk about V.Davis and that possiblity. I heard he needs to work on his pass blocking but so does Putzier.Our quarterback next next will probably be on his back alot,again.:brickwall :brickwall