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I'll bet my moniker against your moniker that Bush won't be on the Texan's roster

Will Reggie Bush be on the opening roster next year?


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For every single person that is complaining about the complaining, all I have to say is that you are doing exactly as I would have predicted. Your SOL attitude, especially you swtbound, is well known on the boards. Although your argument here is justified, it is only due to your ill-respected rational on other topics.

And I do apologize that I didn't know WTF a moniker was. From what I read from the thread is was a "friendly wager". Hottoddies response to the outcome of this poll is clearly far from friendly. But then again, I expected all of you to act in such ways, so no complaints here.
 
TexansLucky13 said:
For every single person that is complaining about the complaining, all I have to say is that you are doing exactly as I would have predicted. Your SOL attitude, especially you swtbound, is well known on the boards. Although your argument here is justified, it is only due to your ill-respected rational on other topics.



And I do apologize that I didn't know WTF a moniker was. From what I read from the thread is was a "friendly wager". Hottoddies response to the outcome of this poll is clearly far from friendly. But then again, I expected all of you to act in such ways, so no complaints here.

it appears I've made quite the impression. nice.
 
Double Barrel said:
I'm not complaining. Just stating fact. 99.9% of polls do NOT have wagers attached to them.

As a mod, I read literally hundreds of threads, and quickness is the key. I came into the thread through a "back door" (ie. "« Previous Thread | Next Thread »" feature), and the poll was at the top - above the actual post mentioning a wager.

Not realizing that a poll was attached to a bet, I voted, then read the first post. I quickly realized my MISTAKE, and posted accordingly. IF the poll itself had mentioned a wager, I would have abstained from voting.

I could care less who won/lost, and if Bush was on our roster, I wouldn't be one of the ones deciding who's name to change. I removed myself from the bet just seconds after mistaking it for one of the grillions of polls that were being posted before the draft. (I was a trade down pov anyway, so Bush was never someone that I really cared about either way.)

It's an honest mistake, and my first post indicates the realization of this mistake. I don't think people should be penalized for mistakes around here, considering how many folks get second (and third and fourth) chances after being banned by Vinny. People make mistakes, and I fessed up and thought I had rectified it accordingly.

For the record, I would/will NEVER take part in a bet involving my moniker, avatar, sig, or any other part of my identity. I'm just not into gambling and find nothing enjoyable about it.

I also voted, but I voted Bush would not be on the roster. After reading through the thread I realized what was going and put out the notice that I did not want to participate because is was not clearly stated in the title.

See my posting, http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?p=318566#post318566.

IMO, if you voted and rescinded in a reasonable time frame due to the fact it was unclear, then it shouldn't count. If it took someone a couple days and they posted many messages a day, they shouldn't be able to rescind.

For the record, I received an e-mail from Hottoddie stating I can change 5 monikers. I responded saying that I rescinded my bet.

The burden of proof for the rescinded bet should fall upon the person rescinding the bet.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I also voted, but I voted Bush would not be on the roster. After reading through the thread I realized what was going and put out the notice that I did not want to participate because is was not clearly stated in the title.

See my posting, http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?p=318566#post318566.

IMO, if you voted and rescinded in a reasonable time frame due to the fact it was unclear, then it shouldn't count. If it took someone a couple days and they posted many messages a day, they shouldn't be able to rescind.

For the record, I received an e-mail from Hottoddie stating I can change 5 monikers. I responded saying that I rescinded my bet.

The burden of proof for the rescinded bet should fall upon the person rescinding the bet.

Well said, man. Personally, if I was proposing a forum wager, I would not have used a poll. I would have made a thread with the bet, and let whoever wants to take the bet confirm it with an actual post of said acceptance.
 
Double Barrel said:
Well said, man. Personally, if I was proposing a forum wager, I would not have used a poll. I would have made a thread with the bet, and let whoever wants to take the bet confirm it with an actual post of said acceptance.
I'm guessing you've never had a cell phone contract or credit card?
 
mexican_texan said:
I'm guessing you've never had a cell phone contract or credit card?

What do those things have to do with an internet forum? idonno: Besides, read the fine print: you can cancel within a reasonable period of time.

I'd say rectifying a mistake SECONDS after voting would be considered a reasonable period of time for this situation. I didn't realize at the time that you'd make a federal case out of an honest mistake.
 
Double Barrel said:
For the record, I would/will NEVER take part in a bet involving my moniker, avatar, sig, or any other part of my identity. I'm just not into gambling and find nothing enjoyable about it.

Protect your nuts, DB!!!!
:hunter:
 
Double Barrel said:
What do those things have to do with an internet forum? idonno: Besides, read the fine print: you can cancel within a reasonable period of time.

I'd say rectifying a mistake SECONDS after voting would be considered a reasonable period of time for this situation. I didn't realize at the time that you'd make a federal case out of an honest mistake.
If you sign--or in this case vote--you should live up to what you agreed to or make it up somehow...

Oh, and that's for the other guys backing out, not DB.
 
mexican_texan said:
If you sign--or in this case vote--you should live up to what you agreed to or make it up somehow...

Oh, and that's for the other guys backing out, not DB.

Look I voted on the winning side and rescinded. I don't see a problem as long people made it clear within a reasonable amount time.

The title didn't clearly state it was a bet, and it's reasonable for a person to participate in a poll before they read the thread. That is basically what you guys are saying. It asked for someone's opinion in a poll, not for a wager. However, it does state the wager in the first post.

People voted because they didn't read the post first, which happens regularly.
 
hollywood_texan said:
The title didn't clearly state it was a bet, and it's reasonable for a person to participate in a poll before they read the thread. That is basically what you guys are saying. It asked for someone's opinion in a poll, not for a wager. However, it does state the wager in the first post.
Isn't bet in the title?

I'll bet my moniker against your moniker that Bush won't be on the Texan's roster
 
Wow, go away for awhile and come back to this.....

I say give those that rescinded their say. At the time of the poll even a trained monkey would bet on Bush, so someone rescinding at that point before the draft didn't do so because they felt they made the wrong pick but because they didn't want to gamble. Every credit card purchase online goes through several stages basically saying, "are you sure?".

Personally, I lost and am okay with it. My new name is not that objectionable and quite ironic (someone must know me from other sites).
 
mexican_texan said:
Isn't bet in the title?

First it doesn't link to the poll at the top of the page or anything that they are related.

Second, it is more of a statment than a bet.

Third, I did participate in the poll but I was on side of the guy that started the thread. So, how could he and I bet on something that we both agree?

This was not clearly stated until midway thru the thread and wasn't linked to the poll before someone clicked on it.

Bottom line, if they recinded timely within the thread, I say they did not make a bet. Imagine it like a return policy at a department store because you have a receipt.

Also, I understand that "I'll" means "I will". I don't think "will" is a proposed offer of any sort. For example, I will offer you the job. I don't think that means you have been offered a job, it just means you will be offered sometime in the future but there is not guaranteed.

Should have said "I am betting my moniker against..." But even then, there is no connection clearly stated in the poll section between the bet and the poll. Which is the main problem here.
 
I voted "No" but rescinded the bet moments later after I read the first post. The poll should have said "read the entire first post before your participate."

Since no one could rescind, do I get to change someone's moniker because I voted "No" and won?

You know I really don't care because my moniker isn't changing.

See you guys later and have fun.
 
To be honest, I voted in the poll and moved on accordingly, since I didn't really care about another Bush/Vince/Whoever thread at that point.

It's only when I noticed this thread resurface well AFTER the draft that I wondered what all the fuss was about, since I only saw a handful of responses in the thread. It wasn't until THIS point that I realized that somebody said I'd made a wager simply by voting in the poll. WTF??

For swtbound, mexican_texan, kastofsna, et al. - Please get a life, sometime soon. You weren't the originators of this poll/thread and I could care less what you think of a "clear description".

My 'moniker' is how I'm identified on this board, and I don't want it changed for any reason more complex than I don't want somebody confused about who they're having a discussion with.

Now, I've got an offer for Hottoddie and nobody else, since he's the originator here. If you think that I'm simply trying to weasel a way out of this and I really DID know that I was obligating myself by voting in the poll, YOU may select a new Avatar for me (until the next draft). I'm willing to concede that much, if you truly believe that I'm only trying to 'back out' since I ended up on the 'losing' side. - PM me with your verdict.
 
Double Barrel said:
I'm not complaining. Just stating fact. 99.9% of polls do NOT have wagers attached to them.

As a mod, I read literally hundreds of threads, and quickness is the key. I came into the thread through a "back door" (ie. "« Previous Thread | Next Thread »" feature), and the poll was at the top - above the actual post mentioning a wager.

Not realizing that a poll was attached to a bet, I voted, then read the first post. I quickly realized my MISTAKE, and posted accordingly. IF the poll itself had mentioned a wager, I would have abstained from voting.

I could care less who won/lost, and if Bush was on our roster, I wouldn't be one of the ones deciding who's name to change. I removed myself from the bet just seconds after mistaking it for one of the grillions of polls that were being posted before the draft. (I was a trade down pov anyway, so Bush was never someone that I really cared about either way.)

It's an honest mistake, and my first post indicates the realization of this mistake. I don't think people should be penalized for mistakes around here, considering how many folks get second (and third and fourth) chances after being banned by Vinny. People make mistakes, and I fessed up and thought I had rectified it accordingly.

For the record, I would/will NEVER take part in a bet involving my moniker, avatar, sig, or any other part of my identity. I'm just not into gambling and find nothing enjoyable about it.
DB, you I would have allowed out of the bet because of your immediate response. I can understand your error, but for the ones that didn't immediately rescind their bet, I think they should do as kastofsna said and "MAN UP".

I did have a good name picked out for you though DB. I was wanting to change your nom de plume to Double Bubble. Oh well, I'll let ya slide this time.
 
You know I thought of something. I bet on this thing unknowingly. I voted NO in the poll so I won.

Therefore, I can change 5 monikers. I will change (or really not change) the 5 people that have good reasons for why they didn't think it was a bet.

I am not going to argue with anyone and will make a judgement accordingly. If I don't believe you or agree with your arguement I won't take your moniker for nonchange.

Send me a PM.

Just trying to help out a little here.
 
hollywood_texan said:
You know I thought of something. I bet on this thing unknowingly. I voted NO in the poll so I won.

Therefore, I can change 5 monikers. I will change (or really not change) the 5 people that have good reasons for why they didn't think it was a bet.

I am not going to argue with anyone and will make a judgement accordingly. If I don't believe you or agree with your arguement I won't take your moniker for nonchange.

Send me a PM.

Just trying to help out a little here.
Hey, if that's what you want to do, more power to you. Honestly, I think it is a great that you would do it.
 
disaacks3 said:
For swtbound, mexican_texan, kastofsna, et al. - Please get a life, sometime soon. You weren't the originators of this poll/thread and I could care less what you think of a "clear description".
Personal attacks will give you 'da boot.
 
disaacks3 said:
To be honest, I voted in the poll and moved on accordingly, since I didn't really care about another Bush/Vince/Whoever thread at that point.

It's only when I noticed this thread resurface well AFTER the draft that I wondered what all the fuss was about, since I only saw a handful of responses in the thread. It wasn't until THIS point that I realized that somebody said I'd made a wager simply by voting in the poll. WTF??

For swtbound, mexican_texan, kastofsna, et al. - Please get a life, sometime soon. You weren't the originators of this poll/thread and I could care less what you think of a "clear description".

My 'moniker' is how I'm identified on this board, and I don't want it changed for any reason more complex than I don't want somebody confused about who they're having a discussion with.

Now, I've got an offer for Hottoddie and nobody else, since he's the originator here. If you think that I'm simply trying to weasel a way out of this and I really DID know that I was obligating myself by voting in the poll, YOU may select a new Avatar for me (until the next draft). I'm willing to concede that much, if you truly believe that I'm only trying to 'back out' since I ended up on the 'losing' side. - PM me with your verdict.


Im a popular fellow today...lot of venom my way.
 
HJam72 & Double Barrel were the only ones to rescind their vote before the announcement, & as such, are released from their obligation. I was going to do it in the first place, but was concerned that if I did, everyone else would try to do the same thing.

For all the ones that are willing to stand up like a man (or woman, if that applies) & accept their loss with honor, I tip my hat to you & have the utmost respect for you.

As for the rest of you that are trying to weasel out of the deal, I despise you & have no respect for you. While I didn't indicate that it was a bet in the poll, I did state it in the title, which was less than 2 inches above the poll, that you voluntarily voted in. My only mistake was assuming everyone on this board that comes here to read what is posted by others, could actually read. It's become painfully obvious that some don't bother to read through a post before responding to it. Thus, making your opinions nothing more than mindless drivel.

This thread was started as a way to have a little fun, but has turned into a joke. I'm sick & tired of the whining & crying about how you were mislead & deceived. As a result, I'm not going to collect on this bet & will ask Vinny to close this thread. But, remember this,


YOU LOST!!!

P.S. I apologize to the winners for taking away what you truely earned. Thanks for the support.
 
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