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I Love That We Have never changed our Uniforms

Double Barrel said:
Yep. Unfortunately, this is what fans of perpetually mediocre franchises get to talk about. Friggin' color schemes. :yawn:

p.s. I understand all the Bud Adams hate, but truth is that all he wanted was what Bob McNair got: a new stadium that he benefitted from revenue to compete with the rest of the NFL. So save some of your ire for those that also deserve it, former mayor Bob Lanier and former Astros owner Drayton McLane. They played Adams like a fiddle.
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Bud Adams got the 8th Wonder of the World and between the Oilers and Astros...the stadium was never paid for in full. McNair ponied up some big money to bring football back to Houston but I think Adams pulled the biggest shite move in the NFL by dropping the Oilers name and blocking the new Houston franchise from ever getting to consider reinstating the name as an option. So, duck the Adams Family and yes, I would introduce a throwback uniform in the way I mentioned up post.
 
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JPPT1974 said:
Love the uniforms. But one day they will have to change whether we like it or not 21st Century thing I guess.
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I dont think this is true. There are a lot of teams that don't change their brand or look. Look at the Carolina Panthers for instance; not an original franchise like the Packers or Chiefs but arent going to likely change their modern classic look. We're like that.
 
Personally, i like the uniforms. I love the logo. Just wish they would use the liberty white for the helmets. I don't much like the dark, deep steel blue for the helmets. The red helmets wouldn't go with every combination of the uniforms. The white would.
The pants should either be liberty white or deep steel blue. I hate the red pants. The red should never ever be used on the pants again.
Any of the colors look great on the jerseys. The red jerseys with white pants and a white helmet would be great on battle red day.
Then they should use either a combination of the liberty white pants and deep steel blue jersey or the deep steel blue pants and the liberty white jerseys during the other games. Using the white on white or blue on blue would be cool too.
The one thing that should never ever change is the logo.
 
Texans haven't been around two decades... it's a little early for talk about history and future in regards to a trivial thing like uniforms imho

After all, we're barely past the roof, turf GM wars to concentrate yet again on the uniforms, but then again I'm an OLD drunk
 
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I wasn't a fan when they went to the big thick giant collars on their jerseys. Basically looks like they just won a medal with a big ribbon that they got for the Special Olympics 2nd place or something.
 
ShinobiMusashi said:
Nah man, Adams deserves all the hate for it, ill post more when im not on my phone but dude was shady af and worked the city like a hustler.
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Like I said in the post you quoted, I understand the hate for Bud Adams. I'm not a fan of his in any sort of way.

I'm just pointing out that there are more people to hate for losing the Oilers than just Bud Adams. Big picture.

OptimisticTexan said:
Bud Adams got the 8th Wonder of the World and between the Oilers and Astros...the stadium was never paid for in full. McNair ponied up some big money to bring football back to Houston but I think Adams pulled the biggest shite move in the NFL by dropping the Oilers name and blocking the new Houston franchise from ever getting to consider reinstating the name as an option. So, duck the Adams Family and yes, I would introduce a throwback uniform in the way I mentioned up post.
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Get your history straight and educate yourself. The Oilers did not control the Astrodome revenue. That was fully controlled by the Astros and Drayton Mclane.

As far as the Oilers themselves, the fans of Houston did not care when it happened. Only a handful of people showed up at city hall to protest the move. Unlike Browns fans, who showed up by the thousands and continued a relentless campaign to keep the Browns name and stats in Cleveland. Houston collectively yawned instead.
 
JamTex said:
Personally, i like the uniforms. I love the logo. Just wish they would use the liberty white for the helmets. I don't much like the dark, deep steel blue for the helmets. The red helmets wouldn't go with every combination of the uniforms. The white would.
The pants should either be liberty white or deep steel blue. I hate the red pants. The red should never ever be used on the pants again.
Any of the colors look great on the jerseys. The red jerseys with white pants and a white helmet would be great on battle red day.
Then they should use either a combination of the liberty white pants and deep steel blue jersey or the deep steel blue pants and the liberty white jerseys during the other games. Using the white on white or blue on blue would be cool too.
The one thing that should never ever change is the logo.
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I'm with you on the logo. One of the best in the league as it stands.
 
Double Barrel said:
Like I said in the post you quoted, I understand the hate for Bud Adams. I'm not a fan of his in any sort of way.

I'm just pointing out that there are more people to hate for losing the Oilers than just Bud Adams. Big picture.

Get your history straight and educate yourself. The Oilers did not control the Astrodome revenue. That was fully controlled by the Astros and Drayton Mclane.
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Maybe at the time the Oilers left but a big part of why they left was the $67 million in public money Adams got to renovate the Astrodome in the 80's, after threatening to move them to Jacksonville, at that time the Astrodome was owned by the county. This from the book "Loser Takes All" by Ed Fowler:

"Soon after he began his dalliance with Jacksonville, Houston mayor Kathy Whitmire figured she should act. Although the football facility was county owned, she figured that if the team left on her watch she would get the blame. Whitmire, often called "Mayor Tootsie" for her striking resemblance to the Dustin Hoffman character in the movie Tootsie, arranged a meeting with Adams.

She arrived at his basement office- "The Bunker"- with aid Paul Mabry and city councilman Jim Greenwood. They sat in a conversation pit with the owner, Ladd Herzeg, and Tommy Smith, Bud's son-in-law and team executive. After the exchange of pleasantries, Whitmire opened the meeting's business by asking Adams, "What can we do to keep the Oilers in Houston?"

Herzeg and Smith knew what was coming. Smith buried his head in his hands and said, "I'm not responsible for this." Herzeg, according to one who was there, "started bouncing on the couch like a little kid." and Bud said, "Mayor, I've got a little office in the back with a fold out couch if you'd like to discuss it further."
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As far as the Oilers themselves, the fans of Houston did not care when it happened. Only a handful of people showed up at city hall to protest the move. Unlike Browns fans, who showed up by the thousands and continued a relentless campaign to keep the Browns name and stats in Cleveland. Houston collectively yawned instead.
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50 people showed up to protest the Oilers move but really that falls squarely on Bud Adams' shoulders. I'm sure things would have been different had he not ran Bum Phillips out of town the way he did, or the way he threatened to move the Oilers to Jacksonville in the 80's, essentially extorting $67 million out of the city for upgrades to the Astrodome to keep the Oilers in town. I'm sure if he tried to move the team in 1980-81 a whole lot more than 50 folks would have showed up to protest it, we're talking about the same team fanbase that lined the streets and packed the Astrodome when they were coming home from AFC Championship losses. The team lost all of that and it falls squarely on Bud Adams, not the mayor of Houston or the owner of the Astros. By 1996 Houston was fed up with the guy, he himself was solely responsible for completely alienating the Houston business community, which was a major factor in him not getting a new stadium. He himself was responsible for putting together a ridiculous plan for a new stadium, an ungodly joint venture that depended on a partnership with the Rockets, who scoffed at his proposed design because it was goofy indoor football/basketball domed stadium design. When that fell through Adams started talking to Nashville.

I really don't know how much you can really put on the mayor Lanier, and I'd like to know what the Astros owner has anything to do with it? Lanier was quoted saying

"Adams needed the business community, the media, the sports community, and the public behind a new stadium and Adams had none of that. He was relying strictly on me to get things done. One reason I get things done is I don't attempt things that aren't possible.

Initially, I was outraged at the arrogance of these sports team owners. I never was then and I am not now of a frame of mind that sports facilities should be my no. 1 priority. I told Bud and the others from the outset, this is not a deal I'm going to head, it's not my no. 1 priority. You need a consensus, broad based community support. I had to work through my own anger toward the owners for trying to shift to the taxpayers the burden of their own incompetence as labor negotiators.

These owners fashion themselves as the jungle animals of the free enterprise system. In reality, they're the ***** cats of a monopoly world, and the characteristics of a monopoly are high prices and low service. If they had to do business in the real world with their methods, they would all go broke. If they couldn't look to the tax payers to bail'em out, they'd run their business and quit doing stupid labor contracts. "
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Lanier backed the baseball stadium but Drayton had support in all of the sectors Lanier outlined to Adams. They had Enron money, $75 million, and it was all developed on a county wide basis instead of being left to the city, which has half the tax base of the county. No taxes that would otherwise have gone to basic services were used and the measure passed in a referendum according to the Loser Takes All book that I have.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Speaking of your avatar.. I always thought that Houston Gamblers logo and jerseys were badass..
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The Gamblers indeed had great uni's, especially for the 80's. In fact, I like a lot of the old USFL unis/helmets, my favorite(other than the Gamblers) would be the Jacksonville Bulls, they had a really sweet uni/helmet, way better than the Jaguars:
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Double Barrel said:
Like I said in the post you quoted, I understand the hate for Bud Adams. I'm not a fan of his in any sort of way.

I'm just pointing out that there are more people to hate for losing the Oilers than just Bud Adams. Big picture.

Get your history straight and educate yourself. The Oilers did not control the Astrodome revenue. That was fully controlled by the Astros and Drayton Mclane.

As far as the Oilers themselves, the fans of Houston did not care when it happened. Only a handful of people showed up at city hall to protest the move. Unlike Browns fans, who showed up by the thousands and continued a relentless campaign to keep the Browns name and stats in Cleveland. Houston collectively yawned instead.
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That's b/c the Adam's family hauled the Oilers name and colors to Tennessee with them and continued to use the name and colors in the 1997-1998 seasons before officially changing their name to the Titans in 1999. That same year, McNair had successfully brought professional football back to Houston. The Adam's Family could've extended an olive branch to Houston fans by giving McNair an option of bringing the Oilers name and colors back to Houston. He never offered anything and remained a POS....so duck him.

Hell, I've mentioned in a few post(s) that the Texans could add Gun Metal Metallic to their current colors but I will continue to think the Texans should bring the colors of, Columbia Blue, Battle Red and Liberty White on a Silver background (1970 Oilers) back as a Throwback Uniform. Personally, I think fans would absolutely dig the Throwback Uniforms.
 
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Sonny said:
I wasn't a fan when they went to the big thick giant collars on their jerseys. Basically looks like they just won a medal with a big ribbon that they got for the Special Olympics 2nd place or something.
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I don't think the Texans had a choice in that matter. Wasn't that part of the change Nike made when it took over the jerseys? All the teams had a thicker colored collar.
 
To be honest after only 15 years it’s not like resisting the urge to change the team’s look is some kind of monster accomplishment. This is how it should be in an ideal world and only in the era of endless gimmick jerseys and league expectations that fans should be coughing up $100+ every time they change a color, font, or redesign a patch does it stand out. People who are in a hurry to throw more money at billionairs for new shirts they don’t need confuse me.

Screw those guys and their unnecessary fan-bait jersey changes. I got two real jerseys (the kind the players wear). One is an AJ I bought after he retired and the other is blank but it was an original Tony Boselli from back in 2002. I always meant to customize it and make it my own. Everything else is a fake because spending that much money on jerseys for guys that either don’t pan out or leave after a few years makes no sense to me.
 
JB said:
I can agree to that...when they announced the name would be 'Texans', I was like meh, but when I saw the logo I loved it
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I still don't care for the name. I've quasi-accepted it.
Don't like it.
Never will.
Why?
Because it belonged Dallas first (yes, I know that team became the Chiefs).
But we should never have 'borrowed' Dallas' team name.
Ever.
EVER
 
ObsiWan said:
I still don't care for the name. I've quasi-accepted it.
Don't like it.
Never will.
Why?
Because it belonged Dallas first (yes, I know that team became the Chiefs).
But we should never have 'borrowed' Dallas' team name.
Ever.
EVER
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While that may be a great point, I certainly didn't like any of the other names that made the final 5. Houston Bobcats? I don't think so. Houston Stallions made no sense. Houston Toros? Meh. Houston Apollos I liked the best out of the 5, but that ain't saying much. Plus that was a minor league hockey team back in the 80's.

I remember thinking "how original...not" when they named it Texans, but considering it could have been one of those other 4, I'm good with Texans. Plus the logo is cool as hell.
 
Speedy said:
While that may be a great point, I certainly didn't like any of the other names that made the final 5. Houston Bobcats? I don't think so. Houston Stallions made no sense. Houston Toros? Meh. Houston Apollos I liked the best out of the 5, but that ain't saying much. Plus that was a minor league hockey team back in the 80's.

I remember thinking "how original...not" when they named it Texans, but considering it could have been one of those other 4, I'm good with Texans. Plus the logo is cool as hell.
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I've said this before (and will every time this comes up :D) every other Houston team plays off our unique aerospace connection. The Rockets, Astros, Aeros, and Comets, all aero or space related. I was expecting something like that. We are Space City after all.

Or McNair could have gone the energy theme route like the Dynamo. That's where he made his bucks after all so I could see that.

Two perfectly logical paths for McNair to follow....

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Love the name, love the colors, like the logo. I'm one of those annoying people that thinks that Texas is the greatest place on Earth, so my team being Texans is dead on. Well, until I win the lottery and buy an island in the middle of nowhere - at which time I'll give the rest of the world the finger. Red white and blue ... duh. Nothing weird, just good solid colors. The logo I like - simple, accurate, distinctive. I think we could've done better, but I'm no artist.
 
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They stole the colors (and I actually like our colors) from this logo

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I can't let that Dallas thing go
 
ObsiWan said:
They stole the colors (and I actually like our colors) from this logo

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I can't let that Dallas thing go
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Um, I think they probably got the colors from the Texas state flag? I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with a mediocre Arena League team from the '90's that I doubt anyone on Kirby ever knew existed.
 
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TheMatrix31 said:
Our jerseys are awesome. Never **** with them and continue building brand identity.
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Just drop the Liberty White pants and use them solely for Liberty White-Out Games. Blue over blue, white over blue and red over blue would give the Texans one of the top uniforms in the league....they'd be timeless which is hard for this day and time.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Just drop the Liberty White pants and use them solely for Liberty White-Out Games. Blue over blue, white over blue and red over blue would give the Texans one of the top uniforms in the league....they'd be timeless which is hard for this day and time.
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Nah, I like the white pants. Any combo works. Our colors are bad ass.
 
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