I like the direction of the current Texans

[Texecutioner]

I'd like to see a show of hands from all of these people who thought the Texans were a playoff team this year? Come on where are you guys at? With all of the whining about this team right now, you'd swear that everyone had playoff expectations, and I sure as hell don't remember that from hardly anyone. BUt right now, all of a sudden people are freaking out as if we are 0-6. Lol!

The Texans are 3-3 right now. A lot of us expected a record around 8-8 give or take a game or so. I'd say that the Texans are right on schedule to where I expected this team to be. They're a play or two away from being 5-1 as well as they just lost one game in OT and also lost this one at the very end after being down by like 24 points.

I've noticed a team that has a hot of heart that doesn't give up and fights all the way through. They're still learning the offense and the defense and they've got a huge disadvantage going into every single game with the QB position. With a much better QB, I see this team easily at 5-1 and then everyone would be happy. People love to forget that this team was just 2-14 last season and overhauled the entire staff. I like what I'm seeing for the most part. It is going to take a year or two in order for this current staff to fill the majority of the team with guys they want, but they're doing pretty well with what they have despite the QB problem.

You guys wanted Clowney and not a QB, so don't complain about how we can't win due to not having a QB this year. We're playing competitive, and there is plenty of football left to play.

 

[speedfreek]

6-10 and I'm happy.

Hell, I would have been happy If they would have beaten
the cowboys and found a way to win in Indy.

The cowboy thing obviously didn't happen...

 

[Texecutioner]

6-10 and I'm happy.

Hell, I would have been happy If they would have beaten
the cowboys and found a way to win in Indy.

The cowboy thing obviously didn't happen...

As long as we are a game or so away from being 8-8 I'm alright and as long as we are competitive. I see that happening right now and we could easily have been 5-1 with a better QB. Everyone knew that Fitzpatrick would struggle, and that is exactly what we are seeing. We're seeing him struggle and hurt the team. This shouldn't be a shocker though. I'd love to see OB try out Mallet, but we'll have to wait until he is comfortable putting him out there. Right now though, I'm seeing a team that is limited that is staying in ugly games like I expected and they're fighting hard like a hard nose football team. That is what I wanted. We just need to add the pieces in the next year or two to make this thing work.

 

[ATXtexanfan]

I agree on the direction of the team along with expectations. This draft has shown that Rick Smith needs to be let go.

 

[kingtexan]

I absolutely thought we had the chance to make the playoffs and have stated that before on this board. I compared us to the Ravens of 2000 that could take a great defense and serviceable QB and make a run.

Seems after the past few weeks I was wrong, and we have many more holes than I expected from a team that had one bad year after winning the division two years in a row.

My contention was that between Schaub and Gary, last year was a wasted year with an otherwise talented team. Do you remember how many games we were in and Matt just blew them for us? 2-14? We should have probably been 10-6 except for the pick 6 world record trying to be set by Eeeyore.

So here I am ... the one who thought we had playoff potential.

 

[IBleedTexans]

As long as we are a game or so away from being 8-8 I'm alright and as long as we are competitive. I see that happening right now and we could easily have been 5-1 with a better QB. Everyone knew that Fitzpatrick would struggle, and that is exactly what we are seeing. We're seeing him struggle and hurt the team. This shouldn't be a shocker though. I'd love to see OB try out Mallet, but we'll have to wait until he is comfortable putting him out there. Right now though, I'm seeing a team that is limited that is staying in ugly games like I expected and they're fighting hard like a hard nose football team. That is what I wanted. We just need to add the pieces in the next year or two to make this thing work.

JJo has got to go after this year. He's being burnt and not turning his head more than Kareem in his rookie season. While we are on the Secondary, I like what Lewis has contributed to this tem , but he sure is a clumsy runner.Twice this year he falls down in the endzone allowing a td. Cmon man!

 

[thunderkyss]

At 8-8 the Steelers were hoping for the Chiefs to beat the Chargers last season. Had that happened, the Steelers, not the Chargers, would have been in the play-offs.

Since then, I thought the Texans would have a shot at getting into the play offs in 2014, because we have a schedule full of teams that have done as bad or worse than the Texans over the last 10 years. Yeah... teams get better in the blink of an eye all the time. But not the teams on our schedule.

I had no idea who our QB was going to be. I had no idea if Foster was going to be healthy, I had no idea if Cushing was going to come back or what we were going to do in the draft.

But honestly, after seeing Arian run like a man those first two games.... after seeing Jj return to his 2012 from. I think we're wasting a very good opportunity to win 10 games & really make some noise in the post season.

But it looks like OB took the offense back to basics. The offense looks very simple, looks like our QB is being reeled in. Especially the first couple of weeks. But they've been adding more & more to the offense every week. I'm thinking we're going to get a glimpse of a "multiple" offense after the bye.

I still think we'll make the play offs.

 

[Thorn]

I don't see a playoff team this year, but I do see them returning there after they find a QB. And a few O-linemen, an LB or two, maybe some DBs.

 

[HouTx11]

I'm in the "I predicted that the Texans will fall way short of the playoffs, but was hoping I was seriously underestimating the 2014 Texans" camp.

 

[silvrhand]

I could care less about record this year what i want to see is steady improvement.

- I hope Brian Cushing is getting better by end of year... right now not worth the money we signed.
- I hope that the offensive line starts to gel more
- I hope that someone else not named JJ Watt can figure out how to pass Rush.
- I hope that someone steps up on the receiver corp..

The one thing I continue to see and like is our mental toughness we aren't giving up on games and I like that, Kubiak's team were soft and mentally not ready. This team is not.

 

[Bulls on Parade]

6-3 going into the bye week is realistic.

With Clowney back I like our chances to beat the Steelers, Titans and Eagles. And with games left against the Titans, Browns and Jaguars (twice), no reason why we shouldn't win 10 or 11 games. Perhaps 12.

I think we should do some damage the rest of the way...

The only game I'm not confident in is the one at Indy because we're 0-12 all time playing the Colts on the road but no reason why we shouldn't be thinking playoffs at 3-3 right now. A winning streak is right around the corner.

 

[humblegeo]

I'm not happy with this year's draft. We had the first pick in every round for crying out loud! We get a DE that gets hurt after playing 2 quarters of football. HE AINT NO JJ WATT!! and we didnt need another DE anyway we needed a quarterback. And how bout that NIX pick. Unbeleavable. Everyone in Houston knew what the priority should have been. Everyone but Rick Smith. He hasn't got a clue what this team needs. 9 years is enough. We need a new GM at the end of the season. Should have been gone when they fired the last coaching staff and Obrien should have had total control of the draft. I'm going to have to stop with all the hissy fit stuff. This is getting to be a bad habit with me.

 

[Bulls on Parade]

We've only seen Jadeveon Clowney play for about half a quarter. Everybody should feel excited about his return. Clowney is going to be a special player for a long time. I want to see Watt and Clowney become the backbone of the best defense in the league for the next six, seven, eight years, etc... etc... Finally we can start to see what we have during our next game against the Steelers.

We should be thankful to be 3-3 right now. I think 6-3 at the bye week is a very realistic goal for us. Making the playoffs should be expected for this team. I know it sucks to lose two heartbreakers in a row but we should be having fun and thinking positive moving forward. If we do that we'll be back on top in no time.

 

[infantrycak]

Step away from the koolaid tap. It's apparently 1 part koolaid and 10 parts vodka.

F'kin' Bill has been making the punch again.

 

[JB]

Step away from the koolaid tap. It's apparently 1 part koolaid and 10 parts vodka.

F'kin' Bill has been making the punch again.

Dammit Bill!

 

[infantrycak]

Dammit Bill!

I don't mind his recipe for mortar punch but the rest of his activities with his tube are scary.

 

[Marshall]

I'd like to see a show of hands from all of these people who thought the Texans were a playoff team this year? Come on where are you guys at? With all of the whining about this team right now, you'd swear that everyone had playoff expectations, and I sure as hell don't remember that from hardly anyone. BUt right now, all of a sudden people are freaking out as if we are 0-6. Lol!

The Texans are 3-3 right now. A lot of us expected a record around 8-8 give or take a game or so. I'd say that the Texans are right on schedule to where I expected this team to be. They're a play or two away from being 5-1 as well as they just lost one game in OT and also lost this one at the very end after being down by like 24 points.

I've noticed a team that has a hot of heart that doesn't give up and fights all the way through. They're still learning the offense and the defense and they've got a huge disadvantage going into every single game with the QB position. With a much better QB, I see this team easily at 5-1 and then everyone would be happy. People love to forget that this team was just 2-14 last season and overhauled the entire staff. I like what I'm seeing for the most part. It is going to take a year or two in order for this current staff to fill the majority of the team with guys they want, but they're doing pretty well with what they have despite the QB problem.

You guys wanted Clowney and not a QB, so don't complain about how we can't win due to not having a QB this year. We're playing competitive, and there is plenty of football left to play.

How many verses are there in the QB is everything song? I think I've heard about twelve hundred...

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I think I've been fairly positive about things. I was expecting 6-10 but as I predicted, my estimates have been going up as we win and I've been seeing more of our competition.

Right now, the offense isn't looking that great and the team hasn't been playing a full 60-minutes. I wish the defense wasn't giving up so many yards but as long as they keep people out of the endzone, I'm OK... and Thursday I was not OK.

If OB thinks Fitzpatrick gives us the best chance to win, I'll roll with that for now but I disagree.

I like our general direction. I'm not hating our general direction or the moves that have been made so far.

 

[houstonspartan]

The most exciting part is that NFL teams tend to eventually take on the persona of the head coach. This team is clearly getting some O'Brien "Don't f--k with me" into their system. I like that.

 

[Brisco_County]

My prediction was 8-8, which is optimistic considering the QB situation. I still think that prediction is realistic.

 

[EllisUnit]

I'd like to see a show of hands from all of these people who thought the Texans were a playoff team this year? Come on where are you guys at? With all of the whining about this team right now, you'd swear that everyone had playoff expectations, and I sure as hell don't remember that from hardly anyone. BUt right now, all of a sudden people are freaking out as if we are 0-6. Lol!

The Texans are 3-3 right now. A lot of us expected a record around 8-8 give or take a game or so. I'd say that the Texans are right on schedule to where I expected this team to be. They're a play or two away from being 5-1 as well as they just lost one game in OT and also lost this one at the very end after being down by like 24 points.

I've noticed a team that has a hot of heart that doesn't give up and fights all the way through. They're still learning the offense and the defense and they've got a huge disadvantage going into every single game with the QB position. With a much better QB, I see this team easily at 5-1 and then everyone would be happy. People love to forget that this team was just 2-14 last season and overhauled the entire staff. I like what I'm seeing for the most part. It is going to take a year or two in order for this current staff to fill the majority of the team with guys they want, but they're doing pretty well with what they have despite the QB problem.

You guys wanted Clowney and not a QB, so don't complain about how we can't win due to not having a QB this year. We're playing competitive, and there is plenty of football left to play.

"Hand raised"

 

[thunderkyss]

The one thing I continue to see and like is our mental toughness we aren't giving up on games and I like that, Kubiak's team were soft and mentally not ready. This team is not.

I don't know that quit was a hallmark of a Kubiak led team. How many games we lose by 7 or less last year?

The only game I'm not confident in is the one at Indy because we're 0-12 all time playing the Colts on the road...

Agreed. If we beat Indy in Indy, then I'll believe there's been a change in the mental make-up of this team. Those two fumbles that ended our last two drives Thursday was very reminiscent of the Houston Texans of yore.

Just can't cross the finish line.

 

[thunderkyss]

I'm not happy with this year's draft. We had the first pick in every round for crying out loud! We get a DE that gets hurt after playing 2 quarters of football. HE AINT NO JJ WATT!! and we didnt need another DE anyway we needed a quarterback. And how bout that NIX pick. Unbeleavable. Everyone in Houston knew what the priority should have been. Everyone but Rick Smith. He hasn't got a clue what this team needs. 9 years is enough. We need a new GM at the end of the season. Should have been gone when they fired the last coaching staff and Obrien should have had total control of the draft. I'm going to have to stop with all the hissy fit stuff. This is getting to be a bad habit with me.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion & yours is just as good as anyone elses. I do not agree with it.

I think if the HC isn't in love with a particular QB, you should pass, unless that QB is a bonafide, guaranteed franchise player, like Luck, Rivers, or Peyton. If the guy isn't in that ball park, pass.

We've seen Rivers go from very good, to eh... to very good & imo a lot of that has to do with the OC/HC. Not every OC is going to get great production out of him, there's got to be a connection where they walk alike, talk alike, think alike...

Trying to make Blaine Gabbert or Christian Ponder think like you is a losing battle & works against everything else your trying to do with your franchise.

Should he have taken Blake Bortles with the #1 overall selection (because Bortles "looks" like OB's type)... I've heard the rumor that he wanted Bortles & Smith wanted Clowney and we went with Clowney. I can see being upset, if that were the case, but we'll never know.

 

[ObsiWan]

8 - 8 huh...?

I'm not sure I see five more wins.

@ Pittsburgh (getting a win in Pittsburgh is always tough)
@ Tennessee (on a short week)
H - Philadelphia (do you think we can keep pace with their offense?)
Bye (we might win that one)
@ Cleveland (have you seen how they're playing?)
H - Cincinnati (maybe... they're pretty beat up now but could be relatively healthy by then)
H - Tennessee (we should win this one)
@ Jacksonville (if Bortles is still making rookie mistakes, possible win)
@ Indianapolis (no)
H - Baltimore (no)
H - Jacksonville (probable win)

I just don't see five more wins.

And to answer the original question, I haven't figured out what direction that is. If O'Brien was playing Mallet or Savage, I would say we're developing our QB of the future. And I'd be good with that. But he keeps trotting his boy Fitz out there. WTH could Mallet or Savage possibly be learning from watching Fitz??

 

[Corrosion]

8 - 8 huh...?

I'm not sure I see five more wins.

@ Pittsburgh (getting a win in Pittsburgh is always tough)
@ Tennessee (on a short week)
H - Philadelphia (do you think we can keep pace with their offense?)
Bye (we might win that one)
@ Cleveland (have you seen how they're playing?)
H - Cincinnati (maybe... they're pretty beat up now but could be relatively healthy by then)
H - Tennessee (we should win this one)
@ Jacksonville (if Bortles is still making rookie mistakes, possible win)
@ Indianapolis (no)
H - Baltimore (no)
H - Jacksonville (probable win)

I just don't see five more wins.

Have to sweep Jax and the Tinbreds & hope to steal one of the others.

Pittsburgh - their offense is suspect but winning there is hard.
Philly - No , that offense is just too good.
Cleveland - they have played some close games. Probably the best opportunity.
Cincy - No. That's a good football team.
Indy - Never won in Indy ??
Baltimore - Maybe if they have their playoff spot wrapped up ??

In order of likelihood - Cleveland , Pittsburgh , Baltimore.

That is assuming they sweep the remaining division games.

 

[imatexan]

Have to sweep Jax and the Tinbreds & hope to steal one of the others.

Pittsburgh - their offense is suspect but winning there is hard.
Philly - No , that offense is just too good.
Cleveland - they have played some close games. Probably the best opportunity.
Cincy - No. That's a good football team.
Indy - Never won in Indy ??
Baltimore - Maybe if they have their playoff spot wrapped up ??

In order of likelihood - Cleveland , Pittsburgh , Baltimore.

That is assuming they sweep the remaining division games.

I think we most likely sweep JAX and split with Tenn.

We beat Cleveland and win either against Pitts or Cincy while losing the rest.

So 8-8, ugh we could have used a W in one of these past 2 games.

 

[CoreyG]

8 - 8 huh...?

I'm not sure I see five more wins.

@ Pittsburgh (getting a win in Pittsburgh is always tough)
@ Tennessee (on a short week)
H - Philadelphia (do you think we can keep pace with their offense?)
Bye (we might win that one)
@ Cleveland (have you seen how they're playing?)
H - Cincinnati (maybe... they're pretty beat up now but could be relatively healthy by then)
H - Tennessee (we should win this one)
@ Jacksonville (if Bortles is still making rookie mistakes, possible win)
@ Indianapolis (no)
H - Baltimore (no)
H - Jacksonville (probable win)

I just don't see five more wins.

And to answer the original question, I haven't figured out what direction that is. If O'Brien was playing Mallet or Savage, I would say we're developing our QB of the future. And I'd be good with that. But he keeps trotting his boy Fitz out there. WTH could Mallet or Savage possibly be learning from watching Fitz??

I am not saying that you are wrong, but just that you are being pessimistic.

Cleveland has been getting down big and against a good defense, they wont come back.

Pittsburgh just lost to Tampa Bay, and Tenn/Jacksonville are absolutely awful.

I think 10 is fulfilling there utmost potential. Nine is realistic and 8 is a lock with this schedule.

 

[DocBar]

After 2013, how can any fan look at the schedule and pencil in a win? The Texans were swept by the Jag's last season. SWEPT!!!!
The Texans won 1 against the tAcks in OT for the last win of the season in week 2. Predictions? I predict the Texans play 16 games this season. They'll win some and lose some. TK, the Texans were 2-7 in one score games last season, in case you weren't aware...

I agree with Tex that I see some hard-nosed, gritty football and a never say die mentality. I see some poor play calling, poor execution, lucky breaks, bad breaks, OMG & WTF moments and a team that seems to be improving. I was much more negative when the Texans were 3-0 than I am now.

I'm ok with the Clowney pick and the 2014 draft in general. I still have no idea how the GM/HC dynamic works in the NFL, despite watching Draft Day (I'm pretty sure some artistic license was used there) so I'm not going to get too carried away with calling for anyone's head. Has anyone paid attention to the roster turnover this season? I have and I'm impressed. OB and RAC aren't afraid to get rid of players and bring in their own. Knowing that, I'm giving the Texans a pass this season. It takes time for a team to learn schemes and coaches to learn players. Personally, I'd have taken just about any QB on the board at 2-1 or 3-1, but they didn't ask me. My phone never rang.

Fitz sucks. Everyone knows that. Fitz keeps starting, so that leads me to believe that he's got a better grasp of the offense than either Mallett or Savage (:duh. The coaches see film that we'll never see and practice. I'll defer to the coaches choice, but I'd like to see Mallett.

The defense has some major problems. I don't remember Fits blowing coverage's or missing tackles this year. Fitz didn't give up 24 points in the 1st quarter against Indy. I simply cannot grasp why a front 7 that includes JJ Watt isn't getting more sacks, pressure and run stops.

Why does OB keep running out Fido at TE? How many drives has he killed between holds and false starts? That's a WTF for me.

All in all, I like what see. I see a very good team in the future. Right now, I see growing pains and steady improvement scheme-wise. I'm not going to call out OB on offensive scheme because we have no idea what the QB is doing as far as audibles go. We have no idea of the defensive calls and schemes.

IMHO, the Texans need improvement at QB, 1st and foremost. Every other position, I see young/new players learning the system. The TE false start and holding penalties are driving me nuts, but they are young.

That is all.

 

[Corrosion]

I'm giving the Texans a pass this season.

In general , I'm giving them a pass too .... mainly because Fitz is the QB.


I'm hoping we don't have to give them a pass next season too .... when there is a new QB under center but at this point , I expect just that.

That doesn't mean I wont call them on things I see that I don't like or think are wrong (poor clock management?).

 

[Mollywhopper]

Why does OB keep running out Fido at TE? How many drives has he killed between holds and false starts? That's a WTF for me.

C.J.'s got a whole 3 penalties so far. For a rook that's often kept in to block that's not too bad at all. And if he were ever allowed to become an actual target we may get to see the benefit of his size and catching ability. So I'm not really sure what all the WTF'ing is about.

 

[thunderkyss]

After 2013, how can any fan look at the schedule and pencil in a win? The Texans were swept by the Jag's last season. SWEPT!!!!
The Texans won 1 against the tAcks in OT for the last win of the season in week 2. Predictions? I predict the Texans play 16 games this season. They'll win some and lose some. TK, the Texans were 2-7 in one score games last season, in case you weren't aware...

I agree with Tex that I see some hard-nosed, gritty football and a never say die mentality. I see some poor play calling, poor execution, lucky breaks, bad breaks, OMG & WTF moments and a team that seems to be improving. I was much more negative when the Texans were 3-0 than I am now.

I'm not penciling in any wins. I just think we're going to be in a lot of close games & I think we'll have a good chance to win more of them than not. Say... 6 & 2 (counting the Cowboys & Colts)... OK, not exactly penciling in wins, just saying.

I think we'll be better in close games this year than we were last year.

 

[DocBar]

C.J.'s got a whole 3 penalties so far. For a rook that's often kept in to block that's not too bad at all. And if he were ever allowed to become an actual target we may get to see the benefit of his size and catching ability. So I'm not really sure what all the WTF'ing is about.

Is that per game?

 

[ObsiWan]

I am not saying that you are wrong, but just that you are being pessimistic.

Cleveland has been getting down big and against a good defense, they wont come back.

Pittsburgh just lost to Tampa Bay, and Tenn/Jacksonville are absolutely awful.

I think 10 is fulfilling there utmost potential. Nine is realistic and 8 is a lock with this schedule.

Pessimistic??
Guilty!
but I did credit us for sweeping the Jaguars and splitting with Tennessee.
...so that's something

 

[Corrosion]

Pessimistic??
Guilty!
but I did credit us for sweeping the Jaguars and splitting with Tennessee.
...so that's something

I think you are more realistic .... 8-8 is going to be tough to accomplish.
They are better than the Jags & Tinbreds .... and should win those games , assuming they do so , they then have to steal one from a better team.

The sunshine crew is a bit over optimistic.

 

[Speedy]

8 - 8 huh...?

I'm not sure I see five more wins.

@ Pittsburgh (getting a win in Pittsburgh is always tough)
@ Tennessee (on a short week)
H - Philadelphia (do you think we can keep pace with their offense?)
Bye (we might win that one)
@ Cleveland (have you seen how they're playing?)
H - Cincinnati (maybe... they're pretty beat up now but could be relatively healthy by then)
H - Tennessee (we should win this one)
@ Jacksonville (if Bortles is still making rookie mistakes, possible win)
@ Indianapolis (no)
H - Baltimore (no)
H - Jacksonville (probable win)

I just don't see five more wins.

And to answer the original question, I haven't figured out what direction that is. If O'Brien was playing Mallet or Savage, I would say we're developing our QB of the future. And I'd be good with that. But he keeps trotting his boy Fitz out there. WTH could Mallet or Savage possibly be learning from watching Fitz??

Pittsburgh - tough to win there maybe, but Tampa Bay did it.
Tennessee - short week? I don't care if they played them Tuesday morning, that should be a win.
Philly - hang with their offense? They hung with Dallas and except for the 1st quarter brain fart, held the Colts to 9 points in 3 quarters.
Cleveland - actually looks like a decent football team but if you can hang with Dallas, Indy and Philly, a very winnable game.
Cincy will be tough but it's at home.
Tennessee and J-ville better be wins.
Indy in Indy, forget about it.
Baltimore - another tough one, also at home.
Jags - very winnable.

5, even 6 wins is not out of the question even if the Amish Rifle remains under center.

 

[Texecutioner]

"Hand raised"

Well see that is the problem. Why in the hell did any of you expect a playoff team after the Texans were 2-14 last season and came in this season with no QB?

That was just homer thinking all the way around. No one was suggesting that the Texans would be some big time team this year outside of Houston hopefuls. There was no real reason to expect that.

However, a competitive team that could possibly over achieve and maybe win the division was possible, but highly unlikely. I think we're right on track where we should be.

 

[datchapin]

I really like the direction this team is heading. The offense is taking longer than the defense to grasp the new schemes, which is to be expected. The offensive line is still jelling. Overall I like almost everything this new coaching staff has done.

What I don't like is that our CB's seem to always play 10 yds. off the receiver. I never see them bump and run, I just don't get this philosophy. Am I mistaken? Have the CB's played on the line at any point in the season? I don't like it being so predominant in our D. It gives opposing QB's options underneath to get rid of the ball quicker. I hope we start diversifying this week.

I think we'll see a more cohesive team at the Steelers and more consistent after the bye. We thought we had an easy schedule, but the Cowboys upsetting the Seahawks shows me that every season is a different beast and our chances are not as low as some would think.

A few bounces our way and we could be 5-1. We still have a lot that needs to be improved, but I think the Texans can do better than 8-8.

 

[MistaRed]

We've only seen Jadeveon Clowney play for about half a quarter. Everybody should feel excited about his return. Clowney is going to be a special player for a long time. I want to see Watt and Clowney become the backbone of the best defense in the league for the next six, seven, eight years, etc... etc... Finally we can start to see what we have during our next game against the Steelers.

We should be thankful to be 3-3 right now. I think 6-3 at the bye week is a very realistic goal for us. Making the playoffs should be expected for this team. I know it sucks to lose two heartbreakers in a row but we should be having fun and thinking positive moving forward. If we do that we'll be back on top in no time.

My thoughts exactly. MSR.

 

[thunderkyss]

Well see that is the problem. Why in the hell did any of you expect a playoff team after the Texans were 2-14 last season and came in this season with no QB?

That was just homer thinking all the way around. No one was suggesting that the Texans would be some big time team this year outside of Houston hopefuls. There was no real reason to expect that.

However, a competitive team that could possibly over achieve and maybe win the division was possible, but highly unlikely. I think we're right on track where we should be.

1. We have a weak schedule
   Not so weak that we can pencil in 12 wins, but 9 should not be out of the realm of possibility.
2. Arian looks good
   Looks like three servings of meat a day Arian. His health was my biggest hang-up. Running the way he is, we should be 5-1... & that's the truth.
3. Andre is Andre
   He's getting up there in age so I was kinda worried. Once again he's proven me wrong. & with Hop looking like a future #1, he should have another 1400 yard season.
4. Jj Watt is back
   Not that he went anywhere, but looks like he's going to fill up the stat sheet like he did in 2012.

Then there's Clowney. Looks like everything we thought he was going to be. If he comes back & contributes this year, laissez Le Bon ton roulette.

 

[ObsiWan]

1. We have a weak schedule
   Not so weak that we can pencil in 12 wins, but 9 should not be out of the realm of possibility.
2. Arian looks good
   Looks like three servings of meat a day Arian. His health was my biggest hang-up. Running the way he is, we should be 5-1... & that's the truth.
3. Andre is Andre
   He's getting up there in age so I was kinda worried. Once again he's proven me wrong. & with Hop looking like a future #1, he should have another 1400 yard season.
4. Jj Watt is back
   Not that he went anywhere, but looks like he's going to fill up the stat sheet like he did in 2012.

Then there's Clowney. Looks like everything we thought he was going to be. If he comes back & contributes this year, laissez Le Bon ton roulette.

Don't leave out D. Hopkins - his reluctance to jump in on a fumble scrum notwithstanding - he's having a pretty decent year.
And while the O-line isn't perfect, Newton is doing much better than anticipated, Myers is still Myers, and I fully expect D.B. to round back into pro bowl shape.

And turnarounds from suckage to playoffs have happened every year for at least the last three years; Cincy 4-12 in 2010 to 9-7 (and wildcard) in 2011; Indy 2-14 in 2011 then 10-6 in 2012; and KC, 2-14 in 2012, and 12-4 in 2013.
so...
why
not
us?

 

[JB]

Don't leave out D. Hopkins - his reluctance to jump in on a fumble scrum notwithstanding - he's having a pretty decent year.
And while the O-line isn't perfect, Newton is doing much better than anticipated, Myers is still Myers, and I fully expect D.B. to round back into pro bowl shape.

And turnarounds from suckage to playoffs have happened every year for at least the last three years; Cincy 4-12 in 2010 to 9-7 (and wildcard) in 2011; Indy 2-14 in 2011 then 10-6 in 2012; and KC, 2-14 in 2012, and 12-4 in 2013.
so...
why
not
us?

Fitzpatrick

 

[ObsiWan]

Fitzpatrick

yeah, I knew that.
Those teams I listed... all had legit QBs... at least more legit than Fitz.
Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck, Alex Smith.

...hey, maybe we just need to draft a QB whose first name starts with an "A"

 

[Scooter]

what's funny to me is had kubiak taken this exact same roster to 8-8 it would've been a failure. the spectacular mess that 2013 turned out to be has folks convinced that we suck, and o'brien getting us to less suck is some kind of achievement. very little has changed on the roster since 2012, and the few changes are supposed to be upgrades - and yet that 12 win team is on the right path with 6-8 wins? i find that unacceptable.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

what's funny to me is had kubiak taken this exact same roster to 8-8 it would've been a failure. the spectacular mess that 2013 turned out to be has folks convinced that we suck, and o'brien getting us to less suck is some kind of achievement. very little has changed on the roster since 2012, and the few changes are supposed to be upgrades - and yet that 12 win team is on the right path with 6-8 wins? i find that unacceptable.

Well he is a first year head coach. That was a 12 win team two years ago. Not like it happened last year. Players got older too and Kubiak brought that 12 win team to 2, so yes, winning 8 is an improvement over last season.

 

[Scooter]

Well he is a first year head coach.

lost me at that statement. we're not talking about a 21 year old kid maturing into an adult game. either he's a coach or he's not. had we signed a harbaugh or fox or any other named coach we'd be expecting 10 wins from this roster. i for one am not really interested in waiting 4 years to see if someone with no experience has the chops to turn a talented roster into a winning team while simultaneously gambling on his ability to assemble an NFL squad.

i loved our draft. it was big and ugly, and health is the only thing keeping clowney from being an all-time type player. on the field however, we're blatantly regressing. we're also turning those picks into junk at incredible speed.

 

[Marshall]

lost me at that statement. we're not talking about a 21 year old kid maturing into an adult game. either he's a coach or he's not. had we signed a harbaugh or fox or any other named coach we'd be expecting 10 wins from this roster. i for one am not really interested in waiting 4 years to see if someone with no experience has the chops to turn a talented roster into a winning team while simultaneously gambling on his ability to assemble and NFL squad.

i loved our draft. it was big and ugly, and health is the only thing keeping clowney from being an all-time type player. on the field however, we're blatantly regressing. we're also turning those picks into junk at incredible speed.

What are you going to do about it? Fans as a whole have power to affect change, but individually, they have none. There are fans gained and lost every year by all teams. But some fans grow out of the terrible twos and understand that you don't get what you want by simply demanding it. Only a small minority of those demanding success achieve it. And they are always surrounded by lackeys and yes men.

 

[thunderkyss]

lost me at that statement. we're not talking about a 21 year old kid maturing into an adult game. either he's a coach or he's not. had we signed a harbaugh or fox or any other named coach we'd be expecting 10 wins from this roster. i for one am not really interested in waiting 4 years to see if someone with no experience has the chops to turn a talented roster into a winning team while simultaneously gambling on his ability to assemble an NFL squad.

I will say the play calling & time management gaffs have really surprised me. I mean it's "just college" but I would have thought he'd have made those types of mistakes then. Not here.

 

[Scooter]

What are you going to do about it?

b!tch and moan like every fan ever.

 

[Marshall]

b!tch and moan like every fan ever.

Bravo! Excellent Response.

 

[Wolf]

Problem with waiting 4 years is more than likely we would need to replace foster, AJ, JJo, cushing. By then . Given our draft record. We had better nail the next few drafts