I am going to boycott until we have a new coach

[ojthecat]

I have had enough. Until we have a new coach I will not spend one more dime on Texans memoriblia and I will not buy any thing else at the stadium. I have had it. We have wasted 3 1/2 years and are going nowhere. I dont care if we give 110% the rest of the season and if we win the turnover battle and if our guys don't quit.

Mr. McNair you need to open up your wallet and do whatever it takes to get Jimmy to come out of retirement.

We shouldn't have through another 5 year plan and Mr. McNair needs to make a statement. Fire Capers now and put Pendry in as interm coach. Start shopping now for a new HC.

Why should we wait until the end of the year to fire Capers.
We have waited long enough.

 

[BuffSoldier]

Okay... you do that. Oh by the way, would you happen to be a season ticket holder?? If you are, I know that you wont want to go to the games until they get a new coach either. And since sitting their knowing that you have season tickets is so very tempting, I personally offer to guard them for you as long as it takes. Its a tough job, but someone has to do it.

 

[ledzeppelin229]

Unfortunately I think this season is basically over. Interim coach wouldn't really accomplish anything. Just go try and hire Art Shell. He isn't busy with anything right now as far as I know, and he'll put an emphasis on the O/D Lines and build from there. Atleast he would have the rest of the season to evaluate the current team and decide who gets voted off the island.

 

[Vinny]

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year. Every team has them. Why should we be an exception?

 

[ledzeppelin229]

Because, this team doesn't even seem to gameplan for the win anymore. It's all about losing by as little as possible, and if the football gods smile on us against a terrible team, maybe we'll get thrown a win here and there.

It's just frustrating to see such a lack of progress. Not to mention we seem to have the same problems every season so far.

 

[swisher]

Count me as one who in a weird perverse way is actually enjoying this season. You can't enjoy the good times without going through the bad times first.

Our day is coming. I plan on bieng here when it happens. And I plan on bieng here until it happens.

 

[gg no re]

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year. Every team has them. Why should we be an exception?

Reference: 2005 Astros. Took huge offseason losses, so we don't expect them to repeat last year's success. As a "part-time" [read: bandwagon] fan, I wasn't angry with the Astros for starting off rough, because it was expected of them.

The 2005 Texans. They were expected to improve on last year's success. As a "true-to-heart" [read: bandwagon] fan, I am angry with the Texans for starting off rough, because it wasn't expected of them.

As such, we are not an exception. We're just the bad type of bad team.

 

[ojthecat]

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year. Every team has them. Why should we be an exception?

Tolerant of a dissapointing year? That is an understatment.
So how does not think that Capers will be fired?

First I am still going to go the games I am just not going to spend any more money supporting the Franchise. I bought PSL's and I will still root for the Texans I just won't vote for them with any more of my money. I will renew my tickets for next year I would just like for Mr. McNair to send everyone a message that he will not tollerate the performances that we have seen. I am sick and tired of us game planning to stay close and maybe win one at the end. Yes that was fine the first 2 years but as fans we deserve better. I am can handle a disapointing year but what I have seen this year is beyond dissapointment. Several players have just mailed it in. The blame has to fall on the coaching staff. We all know that Capers is gone at the end of the year so why prolong our agony. I remeber when Bud put in Fischer as interem coach with the Oilers that has worked out pretty well. As fans we have spent a ton of money supporting the team and with the state of affairs it appears to me that the franchise is just going to right this year off and start again next year.

 

[FILO_girl]

I have had enough. Until we have a new coach I will not spend one more dime on Texans memoriblia and I will not buy any thing else at the stadium. I have had it. We have wasted 3 1/2 years and are going nowhere. I dont care if we give 110% the rest of the season and if we win the turnover battle and if our guys don't quit.

Mr. McNair you need to open up your wallet and do whatever it takes to get Jimmy to come out of retirement.

We shouldn't have through another 5 year plan and Mr. McNair needs to make a statement. Fire Capers now and put Pendry in as interm coach. Start shopping now for a new HC.

Why should we wait until the end of the year to fire Capers.
We have waited long enough.

I think your tactics stink, but....

Since you plan to boycott for awhile, do you want to sell some of your memorabilia you have now? I am always looking for new and cool things to add to the Texans room here at my house. I am hoping a few more of you want to sell out so I can stock up at a reasonable cost.

 

[Vinny]

I'm as disappointed as anyone but heck; the Chargers fell from 8-8 to 4-12 then back to 12-4. It's not about "deserving better". This is one tough league and sometimes things just don't come together like you plan. You guys can boycott the team or whatever...I'll enjoy some real NFL football here in Houston although I'm all crapped out on winning anything this year. It's a bummer but I'll get over it. I'm sure they hate losing as much as I do. I don't "deserve" anything else but a team that can spot a problem and work on fixing it...and I think they will do it.

 

[texplayer2]

Atleast he would have the rest of the season to evaluate the current team and decide who gets voted off the island.

Hey, that would be a great reality show and maybe they could use the profits to get a few free agents.

 

[Marcus]

I know one thing. You people that are freaking out over this losing season are NFL virgins, and never followed an NFL team before.

If you were around when the Oilers were here, or were a fan of them at one time, you'd take this season with a grain of salt.

 

[Nighthawk]

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year. Every team has them. Why should we be an exception?

I think this exceeds "a disappointing year." In fact, when carefully studied, it's closer to "a disappointing 4 years," though many were content (in the name of patience and good will) with the pablum served up from the first. The truth is that this has been a terrible mockery of a team from day one. Carr has never shown anything like the talent he is supposed to have. The coaching and preparation was routinely bad. The selections and FA acquisitions were spotty at best. This is clearer now than it was a year or two ago, but I maintain that it was clear even then.

All that said, McNair has the opportunity now to do something dramatic and smart. Will he? I haven't the slightest idea, but it is at least possible.

I, too, would fire Capers and as many of the lame & halt we have on our coaching staff right now. It will make no difference to the team or season, but it will set a strong precedent that McNair intends to do better and NOT TO TOLERATE the kind of c**p we've been getting for the first 4 years from the players, the coaches, the GM, the whole lot.

It's 4 years into the franchise and these yokels could not carry the Oilers' jocks. It's embarrassing.

 

[Paragon Blue]

I have had enough. Until we have a new coach I will not spend one more dime on Texans memoriblia and I will not buy any thing else at the stadium. I have had it. We have wasted 3 1/2 years and are going nowhere. I dont care if we give 110% the rest of the season and if we win the turnover battle and if our guys don't quit.

Mr. McNair you need to open up your wallet and do whatever it takes to get Jimmy to come out of retirement.

We shouldn't have through another 5 year plan and Mr. McNair needs to make a statement. Fire Capers now and put Pendry in as interm coach. Start shopping now for a new HC.

Why should we wait until the end of the year to fire Capers.
We have waited long enough.

Dont let the door hit you on the way out!!!!!!!!

 

[Malloy]

I have had enough. Until we have a new coach I will not spend one more dime on Texans memoriblia and I will not buy any thing else at the stadium. I have had it. We have wasted 3 1/2 years and are going nowhere. I dont care if we give 110% the rest of the season and if we win the turnover battle and if our guys don't quit.

Does this mean you'll stop posting here too ?

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year. Every team has them. Why should we be an exception?

Thank you. Most teams won't have winning seasons and all teams suffer from hitting rock bottom now and then, it's how the league works.

Reference: 2005 Astros. Took huge offseason losses, so we don't expect them to repeat last year's success. As a "part-time" [read: bandwagon] fan, I wasn't angry with the Astros for starting off rough, because it was expected of them.

The 2005 Texans. They were expected to improve on last year's success. As a "true-to-heart" [read: bandwagon] fan, I am angry with the Texans for starting off rough, because it wasn't expected of them.

I'm sorry but that's complete nonsense. I'm getting real tierd when people complain about a team (ANY team) not reaching that persons own SUBJECTIVE expectations. Instead of complaining that a team is not delivering what I wanted them to deliver, spend a bit more time analyzing the situation and attempt to locate possible (and remember that there are no absolute answers for this question) solutions so that a team perhaps one day can reach your expectations.

Thank you.

 

[Tedc]

We have football. I am happy.

 

[cred]

To me it is not the losing that hurts, it is the way we are losing. All of our losses have been by a touchdown or more, so the theory of keeping it close just isn't working. The head office has known from the start that the o-line sucks and have not done anything about it, legitimatly, and if you talk about Pace this past offseason, that was a joke. And to make it worse, with free agency in the offseason, we still have to win some games just to entice some decent free agents to shop with us in the offseason. To me this season is a bust. I still watch the games, but honestly I am already looking forward to the draft to acquiring that franchise O-lineman that we have needed from the start, weather it is a tackle, center, or guard. I say all three because to be honest I don't know if they will leave C. Pitts at tackle or guard, but everyone else sucks! I just hope C. Casserly doesn't screw it up by trading all over the draft board like he is known for, that is "if" he is still here at that time. This not meant to be so negative, just had to vent some frustration, sorry.

 

[aj.]

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year.

Some people go through "it" in stages or on a continuum. Anger .. frustration .. resignation .. tolerance .. apathy. Hopefully "it" never gets as far as apathy, or resignation/tolerance for more than one season - that's not good for business.

I'm not into boycotts but I do understand that not everyone deals with home team failure the same way. But I will make an exception and boycott this thread if it turns into yet another "I'm a real fan and you're not" crap slinging debate.

Firing Capers before Week 17 and putting Pendry in there does nothing. It would have the same net effect as replacing Ed Biles with Chuck Studley ('83 Oilers for the youngsters). Our future coach, whether it's Herm, Jeff, or Gary won't be able to talk until after the season anyway. And if JJ is interested in becoming a GM, I'm sure those discussions are already occurring.

 

[buckaroo_banzai]

i kinda try to look at the bigger picture.
see how this season shakes out then wait to see what changes are made.
it ought to be an interesting offseason with potential coaching changes and new draft picks, plus any free agents we can get.
i know this season is over, but the offseason sure won't be dull!
(i hope)

 

[gg no re]

I'm sorry but that's complete nonsense. I'm getting real tierd when people complain about a team (ANY team) not reaching that persons own SUBJECTIVE expectations. Instead of complaining that a team is not delivering what I wanted them to deliver, spend a bit more time analyzing the situation and attempt to locate possible (and remember that there are no absolute answers for this question) solutions so that a team perhaps one day can reach your expectations.

I apologize VERY much, and recognize the need to suggest if I complain.

Here are my suggestions:

1) Get an oline. [shoots a dead horse]
2) Get a TE who can block AND catch AND not get injured for three years straight. [shoots dead horse again]
3) Based on the results following 1 & 2, the following options are one or the other: A) Fire Capers or b) Bench Carr. [shoots dead horse two more times, then runs from animal activists]

What's wrong with my suggestions? Oh, it's only the fact that everyone else makes the same 'suggestions', so I feel there's no need to add my two cents if my two cents had been made by the thousands of other Texans fans.

On a final note, they weren't subjective expectations. Pre-05 Texans were always one play away from winning most games they lost. The expectations were realistic. Or at least, until that stinker vs. Cleveland last year.

 

[tex]

I'm sure one fan boycotting is going to get a lot of changes made.Oh well it's worth a try.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Boycott, schmoycott. Its a free country. After reading this thread all I could envision was McNair and Cass doing a Karaoke duet to Safety Dance:

Say, we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
well they're no friend of mine.

Many have said it here, but the good times will be special after this lull in our history. Every team has one, buck up little trooper!

 

[TEXANRED]

I'm as disappointed as anyone but heck; the Chargers fell from 8-8 to 4-12 then back to 12-4. It's not about "deserving better". This is one tough league and sometimes things just don't come together like you plan. You guys can boycott the team or whatever...I'll enjoy some real NFL football here in Houston although I'm all crapped out on winning anything this year. It's a bummer but I'll get over it. I'm sure they hate losing as much as I do. I don't "deserve" anything else but a team that can spot a problem and work on fixing it...and I think they will do it.

Hey I actualy agree with you. We must not be talking about Carr.

However, the Chargers might have went from 8-8 to 4-12 to 12-4, we went from 4-12 to 5-11 to 7-9 to, as of right now, 1-7. Dont get me wrong, I am not agreeing with the extreemist's, I just see their point.

But it is..., well I am not going to call anyone ignorant, thats just rude, silly is the word I am looking for, anyone to not go to games, boo the home team, throw things at Carrs family, and not show Texan pride by not buying things. But that is just my opinion.

 

[MorKnolle]

Count me as one who in a weird perverse way is actually enjoying this season. You can't enjoy the good times without going through the bad times first.

Our day is coming. I plan on bieng here when it happens. And I plan on bieng here until it happens.

Finally a sensible fan speaks up.

I'll never understand fans that can't be tolerant of a dissapointing year. Every team has them. Why should we be an exception?

Apparently people think that in our fourth year after building a team from scratch that we should be better than all these teams that have been building up for decades.

 

[TheOgre]

I have had enough. Until we have a new coach I will not spend one more dime on Texans memoriblia and I will not buy any thing else at the stadium. I have had it. We have wasted 3 1/2 years and are going nowhere. I dont care if we give 110% the rest of the season and if we win the turnover battle and if our guys don't quit.

Mr. McNair you need to open up your wallet and do whatever it takes to get Jimmy to come out of retirement.

We shouldn't have through another 5 year plan and Mr. McNair needs to make a statement. Fire Capers now and put Pendry in as interm coach. Start shopping now for a new HC.

Why should we wait until the end of the year to fire Capers.
We have waited long enough.

So let me get this straight. Your plan is to boycott the purchase of merchandise and encourage others to do the same to encourage McNair to spend MORE money on his personnel? McNair has one of the deepest and most expensive front offices in the league. He is more of a victim of a non-productive GM and coach than us. So you want to punish this guy?

Bob McNair is the one person I believe in throughout the organization. He has marketed this team extremely well and seems to have a link to the pulse of his fans. The more I think about it, the more I believe that he will completely clean house. He knows his fans will not be around if this staff stays for another season. He wants to win as much, if not moreso, than us. Speculation on 610 am was McNair was a key reason they made the OC change during the bye week.

This was his first go-round with hiring a GM and coach. Hopefully he is able to make the proper adjustments and bring in the right guys.

I do not question his desire. He showed me what he is made of when he stole the expansion slot from LA. He will not sit idly by. He wants to win NOW too.

 

[Malloy]

He knows his fans will not be around if this staff stays for another season. He wants to win as much, if not moreso, than us.

He could always move the team somewhere else, although the name WOULD be a problem. L.A. Texans... uhm...

 

[beerlover]

He could always move the team somewhere else, although the name WOULD be a problem. L.A. Texans... uhm...

did not stop them from changing names of the California Angels to the Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim

 

[SheTexan]

I know one thing. You people that are freaking out over this losing season are NFL virgins, and never followed an NFL team before.

If you were around when the Oilers were here, or were a fan of them at one time, you'd take this season with a grain of salt.

AIN'T that the truth!! Most of these NFL "virgins" will be back in a few years, when we have a winning season, SWEARING they have always stood by their TEXANS, even during the tough times! HAHA! I'm keeping track of names!!

 

[eriadoc]

I have gone to all the home games and I don't buy concessions or merchandise anymore. Call it poor fandom or whatever you want - I call it being fiscally responsible with my money. I'm not going to go plop down a big chunk of money on a vehicle that doesn't run and I'm not going to go plop down a huge chunk of money on a team that doesn't play NFL-caliber football. I told my wife if they played eight consecutive quarters of solid football, I'd go back to buying overpriced food at the stadium. They've done that. The last couple weeks, they've come back to playing NFL-caliber football, so I feel I am getting my money's worth now, even if we do lose. IMO, buying PSLs and season tickets entitles you to watch NFL football. Otherwise, you can go watch Rice. The Texans games resembled Rice games for the first few weeks. Now they are back to presenting a decent product.

As others have said on this thread, the NFL is tough and wins are far from guaranteed. As long as the team is playing hard and showing signs of life, I'll keep spending.

 

[Runner]

Count me as one who in a weird perverse way is actually enjoying this season. You can't enjoy the good times without going through the bad times first.

Our day is coming. I plan on bieng here when it happens. And I plan on bieng here until it happens.

When I lived in San Antonio I had Spurs season tickets (two years pre-David Robinson) and kept them as they built and rebuilt. I was there from very poor through some pretty successful seasons, but moved here before they started winning championships. During those early 20 win seasons I enjoyed the team and watching the other NBA teams that came to town. That whole experience has made the 3 Championships - and counting - sweet indeed.

"Focus on the journey, not the destination. Joy is found not in finishing an activity but in doing it." - Greg Anderson

Although I'll admit there would be joy to winning the Super Bowl.

 

[HomeBred_Texan]

Well I hope the fair weathered fans don't block my path to the stadium..

I will be with the Texans thick and thin. I have 2 season tickets and a parking pass. Rain or shine, I will always be in my seat. I look VERY forward to watching Mr. Reggie Bush running the ball with DD next year. And I wont even miss DD is he is cut or traded. If we do not draft the top RB or QB in the draft, I will then be displeased, but will continue to support. I do not like Capers and his crew, but will still be there even if he is coach again next year. I love football and was miserable when the Oilers moved out. I never had season tickets to them, but have items of interest.

So all I can say, is instead of spouting off in the forum that you are gonna do this and that, think about this...

Bad football or NO football?????????

I choose bad football....

 

[ATX_Texan]

I am tired about this whole “let’s just be happy to have NFL football” attitude some people promote. I feel that most fans have been very patient with the development of the Texans.

Most of us believed that this team was headed in the right direction until the end of last season. We did accept the struggles of an expansion team through the first seasons. However, the management of the team (owner, GM, coaches) all sold the fans on a five year plan of building a play off (not Super Bowl) contending team. The disappointment that people are feeling is because of the realization that we still look like an expansion team. On top of that, it appears that this team does not show any of the competitiveness that we fans had come to expect during the previous seasons.

There are many teams in the NFL that don’t care about really competing in the top tier. Most of these teams like the Cardinals, Saints, and Titans have old school owners who got into the NFL in the beginning and are now just content to live off the revenues generated by the entire league. For these fans, they just have to accept the joy of having NFL football every week. These owners just put a team on the field and demand the fans accept it through blind loyalty.

Some fans are not willing to accept just any product shoved out on the field. We see that what happens when the fans in Cincinnati force the ownership to at least try and put out a competitive team. We see a perennial bottom dweller like the Falcons rise up with new ownership and management to be one of the better franchises. We see teams like the Cowboys and Chargers who were in just as bad a shape as the expansion Texans five years ago build themselves up while Casserly and company turn the Texans into a bad joke.

I lived through the Oilers years and it shows what happens when an owner is happy just to collect money from the NFL and the people of a city. I want to make sure that does not happen again with the Texans. The fans have a responsibility to point out the mistakes this franchise has made and to request that changes be made to correct them. I don’t think anyone should be all that worried about the Texans leaving anytime soon. The main reason the Oilers left was because of the lack of other revenue streams available to the team, due to the facilities they had. On the other hand, the Texans are one of the top revenue generating teams in the league. The only place McNair could get that kind of money is in Los Angeles and I see many other teams moving there before the Texans.

The bottom line is that the Texans exist because we the fans care enough to devote our time and money to them. For the most part, we just expect the team to devote their time and money into producing a competitive team in a realistic time frame. At this point, I don’t know how anyone can say that the Texans are competitive now and will be anytime soon. If firing Capers is the first step in getting this process started, then let’s do it now rather than later.

 

[Vinny]

I have gone to all the home games and I don't buy concessions or merchandise anymore. Call it poor fandom or whatever you want - I call it being fiscally responsible with my money. I'm not going to go plop down a big chunk of money on a vehicle that doesn't run and I'm not going to go plop down a huge chunk of money on a team that doesn't play NFL-caliber football. I told my wife if they played eight consecutive quarters of solid football, I'd go back to buying overpriced food at the stadium.

I just use my old tried and true system myself. If I'm hungry I eat, and if I want to buy something 'NFL' I'll buy my home team's stuff. If they are winning the Super Bowl or rebuilding after a disappointing run I'll still follow these time tested decision making methods.

 

[beerlover]

I just use my old tried and true system myself. If I'm hungry I eat, and if I want to buy something 'NFL' I'll buy my home team's stuff. If they are winning the Super Bowl or rebuilding after a disappointing run I'll still follow these time tested decision making methods.

add my if I'm thirsty I still buy a drink even if its inflated or overpriced, I would prefeer if it was to enhance the great performances but it also can kill the pain if needed

 

[eriadoc]

I just use my old tried and true system myself. If I'm hungry I eat, and if I want to buy something 'NFL' I'll buy my home team's stuff. If they are winning the Super Bowl or rebuilding after a disappointing run I'll still follow these time tested decision making methods.

And that, of course, is your prerogative. It's as good a decision-making process as any other on here, to be sure . It just gets old with the people on here passing judgment that they are somehow superior fans for one reason or another.

 

[Vinny]

I'm not passing judgment. I'm typing a funny.

 

[eriadoc]

Oh, I know. I wasn't intending to suggest you were personally doing that. It happens here a bit is all I was pointing out. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

[Double Barrel]

I know one thing. You people that are freaking out over this losing season are NFL virgins, and never followed an NFL team before.

If you were around when the Oilers were here, or were a fan of them at one time, you'd take this season with a grain of salt.

Marcus, my friend, you and I have had differences of opinion on a variety of subjects (all respectful, of course).

But we agree on some basic principles, and your statement is clearly one of those times. I agree with you 100%.

I rooted for the Oilers through thick and thin, often being ridiculed by bandwagon Cowboy fans or whoever. But they were my team, born into Oilerland, and stuck with them until they had a Tennessee address (even went to a couple of games during the lame-duck season).

As football fans, we have to understand that NO team will avoid losing seasons. It's just part of the cycle of sports. The Texans, OUR TEAM, had to start off from nothing and get up and running in one of the most competitive leagues on Earth.

So we get our worst season out of the way in year 4. It's eventually going to happen, like the flu, you can't avoid it over the long haul.

Through thick and thin, till death (or team moving) do us part, in good times and bad, this team is OUR team, and WE are it's fans.

 

[Vinny]

Oh, I know. I wasn't intending to suggest you were personally doing that. It happens here a bit is all I was pointing out. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

NP,

I really don't buy much gear nor do I eat or drink much at games anyway. I'm just like that though...from little league, to the movie theatre to Pro sporting events. Captive audiences pay captive prices. I've never seen someone in a crowd yell...."Someone get this man a cheesburger! I'm not sure he is going to make it".

getting weak....must purchase...a dome dog.....aaaarrrggghhhh

 

[Malloy]

getting weak....must purchase...a dome dog.....aaaarrrggghhhh

heeh, you would be happy to know that in my recently purchased Madden06, I started a Houston francise and my first action was to lower beer prices in the stadium to 1$. Man that brought a crowd

 

[SESupergenius]

We usually tailgate at football games anyways so the purchases inside are minimal. I do buy gear when I go to the stadium on my annual visits, not this year however, I can't make it to any games. But I do however agree in some sort of "protest" be it not purchasing gear, not buying concessions, not buying tickets etc...it's the most effective form of communication a fan has with the team. If you are unhappy you may call a radio show or post your disgruntles in a website forum, but will the CEO's or owners care about that? No, they care about the bottom line and if the bottom line is not to their liking, there will be changes.

 

[OzzO]

I am tired about this whole “let’s just be happy to have NFL football” attitude some people promote. I feel that most fans have been very patient with the development of the Texans. ...

ATX - you put some thought into that and easy to read though lengthy, and just wanted to let you know it didn't go unnoticed.... bravo!!

 

[cuppacoffee]

Finally a sensible fan speaks up.



Apparently people think that in our fourth year after building a team from scratch that we should be better than all these teams that have been building up for decades.

Not quite the way it is in todays NFL.

The Indy Colts are currently undefeated. They have only 1 player who has played for a decade:
10 years..... Marvin Harrison
They currently list 63 players on their roster, (includes injured reserve).
40 of these players have 4 years or less of experience .
(just picked that number out of thin air )

The Texans have 1 win.
They have five players with 10 or more years experience
Coleman..10 years
Walker..11 years
Bruener..11 years
Weigert..11 years
Banks..10 years

Only 29 of our players have 4 years or less experience.

I didn't break it down to starters and reserves, but as you can see the vast majority of their players have the same or less experience than our Texans.

What does this prove??.......

Fire away.

Colts Roster

cac:

 

[OzzO]

Maybe it proves that we're still have somewhat the "expansion" label as we have numerous veterans acquired in the expansion draft (with some sprinkled in later in acquisitions for draft picks) and have yet to get to that level of grooming from the draft.

I think in today's chronic Casserly even noted he might got a little ahead of himself in acquiring a player for multiple picks.... when we really wren't "one player" away from greatness.

 

[SESupergenius]

It proves that we do not draft well and the we are still shedding our expansion players. We had all those picks and couldn't do much with them other than the obvious selections (Carr, Johnson, Dunta..)

Again, a direct reflection on the GM.

 

[aj.]

Like it or not the Texans are only in their fourth year. You really cant even count but one game in the first year,j/k, 19-10

Yeah, but unfortunately the signature game of this franchise was it's first. And we are now approaching game 57 as one of the league's worst teams with no improvement in sight.

 

[cuppacoffee]

It proves that we do not draft well and the we are still shedding our expansion players. We had all those picks and couldn't do much with them other than the obvious selections (Carr, Johnson, Dunta..)

Again, a direct reflection on the GM.

SES

I cannot recall who the original expansion picks were, but I do not believe too many of them are still with the team. (I could be wrong though)

I do not know if we draft well or not. I do believe that Casserly is too quick to trade away draft picks. We also sign FAs from other teams who we think show promise, only to get them here and not perform up to expectations.
I really believe that we need a change in coaching to see if our players have "it" or not. It appears that there is too much "underperforming and non-executing" on this team for it to be all the fault of our players.
JMHO though.

cac:

 

[CanadianTitansFan]

I know one thing. You people that are freaking out over this losing season are NFL virgins, and never followed an NFL team before.

If you were around when the Oilers were here, or were a fan of them at one time, you'd take this season with a grain of salt.

I don't think so. If you're referring to the early 80's, we sucked...but we were expected to suck. We were in the "down" cycle. You guys are not supposed to be there. Your supposed to be getting out of the expansion doldrums and competing for a playoff spot.

If you can get to 5 wins, then I think it's valid to say this season was not so anomolous tot he Houston football scene.... When the Oilers began assembling talent around Moon and people expected us to break through, kind of like where you guys are supposed to be, we had a couple of 5-11 seasons.

But I don't think you're going to get anywhere near 5 wins though you do have some games you should be competitive in (AZ, Jax, Titans, SF)....so you never know.

In 94, we got rid of everyone. It was the dawning of a new era. Once again, 2-14 hurt....but realistically everyone knew we were going down....or at least should have known.

And even though those 5-11 years were dissapointing under Moon when people expected us to break through...it never seemed this dark imo. People had confidence in the youngf talent and everyone seemed to think we were still heading in the right direction. Doesn't seem like that's the case there in Houston right now.

So as a ratio between expectations and success...this is shaping up as the worst year in my lifetime for Houston NFL football imo.

 

[Porky]

Finally a sensible fan speaks up.



Apparently people think that in our fourth year after building a team from scratch that we should be better than all these teams that have been building up for decades.

Need I remind you that even the Browns, of all teams, made the playoffs in year 4. One of the worst run franchises of it's time, who had nothing come from the exapnsion draft, and couldn't hit on a first rd pick if their very lives depended on it, made the playoffs in yr 4.

Need I also remind you that the Texans aren't just having an off year, they are historically bad, and much worse than their first yr, with 3 drafts and FA signing periods in between. This team was flirting with an alltime NFL record for not having a lead for even one play the entire year. Disapointing year? Get real. This is way beyond disapointing, and if someone doesn't want to support this mess with their hard earned dollars, I am certainly not one to have a problem with that. OTOH, if people want to support a disaster, it's certainly their perrogtive. That's why they make quarter pounders and big macs.

 

[DatTexBoy]

The Charlie Casserly with a target on his head is priceless!

Capers should be retained as a defensive coordinator...NOT!

3-4 defense isn't working under him or Fangio...next!

I would love to get the Longhorns and develop them into the Texans next team. O-line...D-line...linebackers...backfield...come to thik of it...I think Vince Young and the Horns would embarrass the Texans and Capers...

Okay, rant over!