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How long will Carr's career last?

How long will Carr's career last...you can find that answer with ,"When will the Dow hit 20,000?", "When will California see a 8.0 earthquake?", When Mt St Helen's erupt?", "When will they capture bin laden?"

btw...put me down for the kitchen sink.
 
Hervoyel said:
Do we start the Vince Young/Chuck Norris jokes now or is there a minimum post limit before they're allowed?
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Did you hear the one about Vince Young, a priest, and an Indian are a this bar.... :heh:

Seriously, though....this is a speculation thread, and I guess that's what the off-season brings about. For all we know, Carr could blow his knee out this summer while surfing, or he could be playing QB at 42. idonno:

But I don't think his age will have any factor whatsoever in the Texans' decision making process.

And honestly, I don't think Kubiak is coming in here with a 4-5 year building plan. He seems like the kind of guy that plans on winning asap. But that's just my take, and only time will tell.
 
Hervoyel said:
Easily one of the most amusing (and least relevent) threads I've seen in a long, long time.
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Then why waste your time responding? Use my approach and just scroll through all the irrelevant crap that's on here.

I can think of one case where this thread could be irrelevant and that's after two years under Kubiak we're still sitting here talking about getting all the pieces around Dave and his potential-this and potential-that. He's toast in that scenario and longevity is moot. On the contrary, if he ramps up his game under the new system and after two seasons, we're sitting here talking about a playoff run (like we were last year) in 2008, then I wouldn't argue with the notion that the 200 something sacks early in his career might come into play in a discussion on career longevity. The fact that he has managed to avoid serious injury by either running out of bounds or falling down to avoid hits can only help extend his career but only if he and his team turn it around (say .500 or better) in the next 32 games. Right or wrong, fans would have a lot more patience with 10 than they will 8.
 
vtech9 said:
here is a very interesting article from the Sportingnews about Carr. Read it and draw your own conclusions. http://news.yahoo.com/s/sn/20060124/sp_sn/texansneedtochasecarroutoftheirpocket
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That was an interesting read. My conclusion is that he might have made one of the best "I think we need Vince to win us a Super Bowl" arguments I've seen since he declared for the draft. My conclusion is that John McClain probably should have written that piece and if there was no name at the top of it I'd almost assume it was one of his love sonnets to VY.
 
aj. said:
Then why waste your time responding? Use my approach and just scroll through all the irrelevant crap that's on here.
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I just don't see it as a waste of time. I say what I think when I feel like saying it.
 
I think the reason the Texans have ANY problems at all is Bush's fault, President George Bush that is! LOL This discussion is really seriously old.:brickwall :yahoo: That being said, Carr is like the engergizer bunny, he takes a lickin and keeps on tickin! I, for one, can't wait until next year. There is light at the end of the tunnel:texflag: Go Texans!
 
FirstTexansFan said:
I have an idea! Why don't you moderators create a Vince Young/Reggie Bush is GAWD heading, then move all this worship elsewhere. Attempts to disguise postings with different names by many here, cause alot of needless time reading what is just another VY posting. You can paint a turd any color ya want, but it's still a turd. We have a new coach, lets talk about what's really happening with this team, and stay away from flights of fantasy, and what if we pick VY/RB. No single player is our savior, and never will be. Only one person will change the future of this team, and that one person is the COACH. I have a better idea, lets move all this fantasy football stuff to "No Sports Talk Allowed" because that's the gist of anything I've read from any pro-Young or pro-Bush poster. Seriously, multiple threads on the same subject have really made the last month unbearable here. Go back and look, I never posted here, I just read and remember how enjoyable that was? I promise to go back to READ mode only if we can only make the PAIN go away! ;)
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Its funny you say that cause whether you realize it or not...all your doing is adding fuel to the fire with your posts....so how about you take your own advice and stop posting anti VY posts. I would be willing to bet if all of you posters that claim you are getting tired of the posts on the subject of VY vs RB would stop posting to them then the threads would go away. But ofcourse you didnt see that with whatever color glasses your wearing, but from here it looks like your wearing a pair of welders eye protection glasses but thats just my :twocents:
 
Hervoyel said:
Yes he could and so could Vince Young. When is speculating about what a QB has left in the tank not a legit topic? When the player is still young and the primary, possibly only reason it was brought up was to "imagineer" another new reason why we must draft Vince Young and send David Carr on his way. If you don't think the thread that started this post was about exactly that then you're being intentionally obtuse.

Carr was hit a lot last year but is the clock ticking on all those other guys who were hit more than him? Remember the very enlightening post by Vinny pointing out the "myth" behind the supposed beating that David Carr has taken? Are New England fans actively speculating about what they're going to do about Brady in 4 more years? Keep in mind that not all sacks are devastating blows and if his critics are to be believed then many of the David Carr's sacks involve no contact at all. He catches all kinds of flack (for good reason) because he runs out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage. Well you can't count that as a career shortening sack now can you?

There are plenty of posters who want Vince Young that I respect. but they're not spending a bunch of their time trying to come up with new reasons to justify their position. They think what they think and that's all there is to it. This post and this thread was a sad grasp for another reason to pick VY.
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As much as I would like to agree with you about the hits Carr has taken...I just cant. Sure he as run out of bounds plenty of times but the majority of his sacks have been true sacks and for the past two years a good portion of those sacks have been some pretty good blows. Now Im not sure what the Texans should do with their pick as of yet ( I will wait for the combines and to see what staff we actually hire), but no one here can say that all of these sacks have had no effect on Carr either physically or psychologically. After all the human body can only take soo much and all of this "carr takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' " should really be a reason for SOME concern as a fan and this upcoming option on our QB.
 
It doesn matter what you guys think. Because you all will flip flop when all the real results come out. If they take Bush, and he turns out to be the next Barry Sanders no one that said to take VY will say "wow I was wrong I'm glad we got Bush." No you will say instead "I told you Bush was the way to go!" If they take VY and he turns out to be a big flop no one will say "Damn I really thought we had something going here." No you will all say "I knew we should of kept Carr and taken RB he is a much better player than VY!!!" It doesn't matter. So I just hope what ever happens we win some games!!

Oh yeah and everyone is forgetting the fact that Jon Fox turned the Panthers from 1-15 to NFC champions and four points for winning the super bowl in two season!!! So it can be done very quickly!!! Go Kubes, and Go Texans!!!
 
Hervoyel said:
That was an interesting read. My conclusion is
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Bravo, Carr Fanboy! You commented again, saying nothing!

Truth is, Pompeii repeated what's been argued on this board and the other board since end of season: Carr is part of the problem, not part of the solution. And this time it comes with bona fides.

Maybe someone will listen?

Nah, that's too much to ask. Let's have another three years of Carr and see if we can't turn him around. That'll be much more fun than being smart and building a winning team.
 
Hervoyel said:
I just don't see it as a waste of time. I say what I think when I feel like saying it.
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Hey, if you think responding multiple times to an irrelevant thread is time well spent, knock your lights out.

To me, the anti-Carr noise has gotten just as old as the anti-Vince. That's when the wheel on the mouse comes in real handy.
 
the thing that strikes me as funny is that the bush camp knows he is not an everydown back...they know his limitations...but they also think he can be an electrifying player who can score on any touch...the trade down camp seems to know there are risks, but they understand there are risks with every pick..first round or not...however the vince camp seems to be 100 percent sure he is a no doubt hall of famer...no questions about it we will win many many superbowls and it is just a ridiculous notion to think we could ever pass on him...and then there are the carr bashers(see vince young camp)..these bashers seem to blame everything on carr..now we all know some is his fault...but lemme ask you this...did you watch the colts/steelers game? peyton looked oddly similar to carr as he dropped back to pass only to see someone in his face...and then end up on his back
 
Spoda said:
...did you watch the colts/steelers game? peyton looked oddly similar to carr as he dropped back to pass only to see someone in his face...and then end up on his back
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bweehooo bweehooo (however you type a siren) :homer: "Is that a good siren?" Answer--have you ever known a siren to be good.

Watch out, you are going to get :challenge for the temerity of using Carr and Manning in the same sentence. That jacks some folks' panties straight up their hind ends.
 
ahh i see your siren and raise you an oops....i was not comparing the talents of carr to manning!!! lol ...it was just a random "insert your favorite QB here" if the line sucks your QB sucks comparison...that RV homer bought was sweet
 
aj. said:
Hey, if you think responding multiple times to an irrelevant thread is time well spent, knock your lights out.

To me, the anti-Carr noise has gotten just as old as the anti-Vince. That's when the wheel on the mouse comes in real handy.
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If responding to an irrelevant thread is time wasted, what's responding to a response to an irrelevant thread? :rolleyes:
 
if a vince young falls in a forest and nobody is around to see or hear it...does it make a sound?

2 answers...first he will never fall...he is too good
second...does it matter ? he will cure cancer while in the woods
 
Spoda said:
if a vince young falls in a forest and nobody is around to see or hear it...does it make a sound?

2 answers...first he will never fall...he is too good
second...does it matter ? he will cure cancer while in the woods
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pffft, first off, Vince Young would juke the forest and run for a touch down or burn the forest's blitz and throw for a touch....

it is simply rediculous to think that a forest would stop Vince.
 
Nighthawk said:
Bravo, Carr Fanboy! You commented again, saying nothing!

Truth is, Pompeii repeated what's been argued on this board and the other board since end of season: Carr is part of the problem, not part of the solution. And this time it comes with bona fides.

Maybe someone will listen?

Nah, that's too much to ask. Let's have another three years of Carr and see if we can't turn him around. That'll be much more fun than being smart and building a winning team.
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Yeah that's me, the "Carr Fanboy". Asking that the man be given a reasonable opportunity to do what he was drafted to do makes me a "Fanboy" I guess. I'll comment as often or as rarely as I please and whether you get anything from my posts is entirely up to you. Put me on ignore if you grow tired of hearing me speak my mind.

People with more football knowledge than you or I will decide whether we have another three years of Carr. If they think he's part of the solution then I'm good with that. If they think it's time to move on then I'm good with that too. It's their football team not mine. I just watch the games.
 
Hervoyel said:
Yes he could and so could Vince Young. When is speculating about what a QB has left in the tank not a legit topic? When the player is still young and the primary, possibly only reason it was brought up was to "imagineer" another new reason why we must draft Vince Young and send David Carr on his way. If you don't think the thread that started this post was about exactly that then you're being intentionally obtuse.

Carr was hit a lot last year but is the clock ticking on all those other guys who were hit more than him? Remember the very enlightening post by Vinny pointing out the "myth" behind the supposed beating that David Carr has taken? Are New England fans actively speculating about what they're going to do about Brady in 4 more years? Keep in mind that not all sacks are devastating blows and if his critics are to be believed then many of the David Carr's sacks involve no contact at all. He catches all kinds of flack (for good reason) because he runs out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage. Well you can't count that as a career shortening sack now can you?

There are plenty of posters who want Vince Young that I respect. but they're not spending a bunch of their time trying to come up with new reasons to justify their position. They think what they think and that's all there is to it. This post and this thread was a sad grasp for another reason to pick VY.
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Ain't that the sad truf.
 
This reminds me why Carr is so great. He's a friggin Houdini - Just when it looks like he's spent...Shazam! He's all over ya!

I'm just glad to have this topic die. Carr. Abracadabra. Done.
 
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