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How did Mario Look today???

tburdette

tburdette

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I didn't get to see the game today. How did Mario look? I saw his stat line was a little more impressive than usual but what else besides that did he do?
 
i thought he played pretty well, but i didnt keep much of an eye on him. he made it into bledsoe's face a couple times and was good at getting into the backfield on many running plays. he's still got a long ways to go, but this might've been his best game.
 
Man you guys are reaching. He played fine if he'd been a FA pick-up. He's not playing anywhere near where he should play given he was the first pick of the draft. Good news is that Detroit, Tampa and Tennessee all won today, moving us back closer to the #1 pick derby.
 
Yeah, I would say Mario had a really good game. Came close to getting a sack a couple of times. Play that stood out to me was he chased the RB across the field and made the tackle exactly when the announcers were talking about his speed and he showed tremendous quickness to the ball.
 
Didnt give up on any plays, had a tackle 15 yards downfield on a WR. He played a good game. On one play they tried to run right at him and JJ litteraly bounced backward and was stoped for no gain. You can tell he's getting more comfortable, its coming together.
 
wow - the Texans lost 34-6 and the best you can say is "he came close to getting a sack"? Did we watch the same game?
 
DenverBorn said:
Man you guys are reaching. He played fine if he'd been a FA pick-up. He's not playing anywhere near where he should play given he was the first pick of the draft.
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What? If we had signed a veteran FA and he had Mario's stat line today, you're saying you'd be pleased??! From a veteran?

....But since he's a rookie and still learning and progressing, it's not a good game?? This makes absolutely no sense.
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You obviously have expectations that are way too high. Yes, he's a #1 pick and I expect him to EVENTUALLY be a force. He had a good game today and he is showing progression. Give the man a break!!:ok:
 
What do you want out of him? He's a Rookie DE playing against a very good and well coached team... I read a Dwight Freeney quote about getting sacks and being a DE, he said something to the effect of "You rush 900 times a season and get maybe 10 sacks". Think about that. I was happy to see his motor running big time today... he wasn't great, he was good. On a team with few bright spots in a brutal game, he looked pretty good. How about a little perspective?
 
run-david-run said:
You can tell he's getting more comfortable, its coming together.
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yup, which is all you can really ask from a rookie ... nomatter when he was chosen. what stands out to me, is he's not beating himself anymore. he's not overthinking his role (atleast not nearly as often). his technique and field awareness is still well below where you want it to be, but that's getting better and just takes time.
 
Mario made one nice play chasing from the backside. You might be able to credit him with one pass distruption in the second quarter where Bledsoe over threw his target.

Other than that, no significant contribution - certainly lacking any notable achievements.

He still is playing tenative and add little to the overall D (unlike the other rookie Ryans).

That being said, you can't pin this loss on Mario.
 
This was one of the few times I got to see a game in person, and I got to take a good look at Mario when he was on my side of the field. He looked really good today. He showed some great speed, strength, quickness, etc. and appeared to be pretty disruptive.
 
Mario made an impact in the first half but like the rest of the Texans, were MIA in the 2nd half. Embarassing team effort in the 2nd half highlighted err lowlighted by the play of the anemic secondary...Robinson, Sanders, and PBurnt are laughable. Bledsoe could have had 6 TDs today if he would have been on his game, which he was not.

In closing, Mario is a work in progress and the early returns have been somewhat lacking especially considering Bush has 'helped' turn a 2-14 team into a 5-1 team. Troll me if you want, but Mario's play will always be linked with Bush. Can anyone tell me with a straight face that the Saints would be 5-1 if they drafted Mario instead of Bush? Isn't winning whats all about. Measurables and stopwatches are for strippers and track stars. I feel Bush would have impacted our team more THIS year and I am sick of projects and 5 year plans.....win today worry about tomorrow later..

doug ftw
 
"And the Houston Texans with the #1 pick, select
Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma."

That's what I hope I hear next Spring.

Mario did pretty good for the 1st half though. We need the whole game
next time.
 
Mario played better in the first half. he created a few disruptions. too bad the Texans quit in the second half. They had the crackboys moving backwards during the first 2 quarters, and Parcells had a couple of questionable coaching calls. No runnning game is obviously killing us. IMO, the Texans need help at OL, RB, QB, DL, DB. They are probably only 9-10 starters away from having a good starting lineup.
 
TexMex72 said:
"And the Houston Texans with the #1 pick, select
Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma."

That's what I hope I hear next Spring.

Mario did pretty good for the 1st half though. We need the whole game
next time.
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I'd rather have a DB or a LB in the first round, and a Gaurd in the second...
 
well Adrian is out for a while with a broken collerbone.


however

williams 6 tackles.

Ryans 6 tackles 2 asists with a sack.
 
TexMex72 said:
"And the Houston Texans with the #1 pick, select
Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma."

That's what I hope I hear next Spring.

Mario did pretty good for the 1st half though. We need the whole game
next time.
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This stupid show of diving into the endzone has cost Oklahoma their #1 back for the rest of the season. It is a shame that these guys can't act like they have been there before, you know, like Emmitt Smith did when he scored.
 
Texan Ned said:
This stupid show of diving into the endzone has cost Oklahoma their #1 back for the rest of the season. It is a shame that these guys can't act like they have been there before, you know, like Emmitt Smith did when he scored.
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didn't see it.. I did hear about his dad was in the stands and his first TD he just handed the ball off to the ref

I might have to see if youtube.com has a link
 
In closing said:
Yeah I will say it. If the Saints drafted Mario they would have been 5-1. The saints have been winnign becuase Deuce is healthy(injured last season), have a real QB in Brees(Aaron is a joke), and have been joined by WR surprise in Marques Colston. What has reggie really done for the Saints? Not a whole lot. Through 5 games, Reggie has had 170 yds rushing(34YPG average) and 250 yds receiving (50 YPG receiving) and 1 td(on a punt return). Colston has had MUCH MUCH more to do with the turnaround of the Saints then Reggie thus far.
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Texan Ned said:
This stupid show of diving into the endzone has cost Oklahoma their #1 back for the rest of the season. It is a shame that these guys can't act like they have been there before, you know, like Emmitt Smith did when he scored.
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It wasnt really showboating. A guy had him around the ankles at the 3 and he just dove to make sure he got it and landed awkardly because of the tackle. I wonder how much this will afect his draft status?
 
Well the next draft they should only draft offensive lineman. You could
have Reggie Bush and Adrian Peterson in the backfield but if there isn't
anyone to block, it doesn't even really matter. I want to see this team succeed but it sure is tough when in crunchtime you have what, 3
turnovers in a row. I don't know where they'll go from here. They may just
start going through the motions. Then what?


I don't think it will affect Peterson's draft status. A collarbone is a lot
different than a knee.
 
Mario did a good job today. He disrupted plays, pressured the QB, and drew double-teams. A DE doesn’t need to get a sack every game to make a difference.

However, the team seriously needs more at LB and DB. The team is getting butchered on Def.
 
He had a game that resembled the rest of the Texans team. Looked very good in the 1st half. Not so good in the 2nd.
 
Mario had his moments and then he had no moments. However, he is getting better as the game is beginning to slow down for him. If he develops two moves we will have an All-Pro DE to go with our future All-Pro MLB.
 
I didn't concentrate on him, but he looks like he had a solid game. We were gashed on the run on his side many times though. I'm not sure if that can be blamed on him or the DT though...
 
infantrycak said:
Evidently not if you thought Mario had a bad game.
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Well yea for a 1st rd 1st pick he played like dookie once again. I was all for the "supa mario" thing but further and further hell he's just another TJ good for nothing but a body on the feild .................wish REGGIE was on our team he'd be a good distraction for AJ and EMO but nahh lets pick "Supa Mario" yea he'll help us this year!!!:hides:
 
Mario did really good today. I loved how he kept his motor running til the end of the play. I didnt see him give up any.
 
TexMex72 said:
"And the Houston Texans with the #1 pick, select
Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma."

That's what I hope I hear next Spring.

Mario did pretty good for the 1st half though. We need the whole game
next time.
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Lets hope not...Lynch and Irons > Peterson. :)
 
FanFromCali said:
Mario did a good job today. He disrupted plays, pressured the QB, and drew double-teams. A DE doesn’t need to get a sack every game to make a difference.

However, the team seriously needs more at LB and DB. The team is getting butchered on Def.
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Mario did get handled by a tight end more than once in the second half, but then again, almost everyone got dominated in the second half.
 
He was solid today, I think everyone pretty much has it correct in that he was good in the first half, gone in the 2nd. But he & Demeco need help. In Particular, on the DL , I don't think Payne is the answer in the middle, he's not pushing the pile so those other guys can "twist" effectively".
 
There will come a time when I will expect Mario to get a sack in most of the games I watch him play. This isn't it. What is he? 21? Nor do I expect him to play zone PASS coverage and make tackles 15 yds. downfield or chase down a RB on the other side of the field, but he does it anyway. He's not a fast DL--he's a GIGANTIC LB with arms like plastic-man.

New Orleans isn't 5-1 because of Bush and Houston isn't 5-1 with him, neither is it Mario's fault that we can't run block. I don't know why in the world we can't run block. We've done it in the past and now we have Kubiak, Sherman, Flanagan, and players in their right spots on the line. However, it's the run blocking that sucks really bad right now and that's gotta change.
 
Mr teX said:
He was solid today, I think everyone pretty much has it correct in that he was good in the first half, gone in the 2nd. But he & Demeco need help. In Particular, on the DL , I don't think Payne is the answer in the middle, he's not pushing the pile so those other guys can "twist" effectively".
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Well it looks like we are going to get a look at someone else with Payne perhaps out for the rest of the year.
 
awtysst said:
Yeah I will say it. If the Saints drafted Mario they would have been 5-1. The saints have been winnign becuase Deuce is healthy(injured last season), have a real QB in Brees(Aaron is a joke), and have been joined by WR surprise in Marques Colston. What has reggie really done for the Saints? Not a whole lot. Through 5 games, Reggie has had 170 yds rushing(34YPG average) and 250 yds receiving (50 YPG receiving) and 1 td(on a punt return). Colston has had MUCH MUCH more to do with the turnaround of the Saints then Reggie thus far.
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This is my first post in about two weeks but here it goes...... First of all, i'm no Bush fan but his presence on the Saints offense is very apparent. To say he hasn't done anything for their offense would be like saying Mario isn't doing anything by not recording a sack. Bush is a decoy and is being used as such right now. But I do agree with you about Brees. And i'll go on record as saying I was impressed with the effort Mario gave today.
 
DenverBorn said:
wow - the Texans lost 34-6 and the best you can say is "he came close to getting a sack"? Did we watch the same game?
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Ten words and they have nothing to do with Mario Williams and everything to do with why the Texans lost.

- Red Zone Turnovers
- 19 yards rushing from our running backs




mario had a good game.
 
tburdette said:
I didn't get to see the game today. How did Mario look? I saw his stat line was a little more impressive than usual but what else besides that did he do?
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I was at the game today. It's the first game I've been to in a long time so I might not be used to seeing what I was seeing but...

Mario looked pretty good to me. I think he's going to be really, really good. Right now, it's almost like he thinks when he should be acting and he acts when he should be thinking. :) I'm sure he'll get that turned around.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Mario made an impact in the first half but like the rest of the Texans, were MIA in the 2nd half. Embarassing team effort in the 2nd half highlighted err lowlighted by the play of the anemic secondary...Robinson, Sanders, and PBurnt are laughable. Bledsoe could have had 6 TDs today if he would have been on his game, which he was not.

In closing, Mario is a work in progress and the early returns have been somewhat lacking especially considering Bush has 'helped' turn a 2-14 team into a 5-1 team. Troll me if you want, but Mario's play will always be linked with Bush. Can anyone tell me with a straight face that the Saints would be 5-1 if they drafted Mario instead of Bush? Isn't winning whats all about. Measurables and stopwatches are for strippers and track stars. I feel Bush would have impacted our team more THIS year and I am sick of projects and 5 year plans.....win today worry about tomorrow later..

doug ftw
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With 100% certainty.

I posted this last week and it is even more true today with Bush coming off a game with a 2.3 ypc and Deuce averaging 5.3 behind the exact same O-line. Put it this way. If Reggie Bush wasn't Reggie Bush, he would have been benched as a running back much like Lundy. All this has shown is that the Texans have a TON OF FREAKING HOLES, more holes than can be filled in a draft or even two and have a long ways to go.


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I applaud the Saints for the season they are having. But let's be honest. Reggie Bush is not the reason for the big turn around.

1. Signed a probowl QB
2. They had a lot of issues last year because of Katrina that made them have a record a lot worse than the actual talent level on the team.
3. Defense has improved drastically.
4. Deuce is now healthy...and is running the ball well.
5. Joe Horn and the best rookie on the Saints....Colston is playing awesome..he is the real star Rookie on the Saints.

Reggie Bush has one of the worst "yards per carry" in the entire NFL. Deuce McAllister has one of the best "yards per carry" in the entire NFL. They run behind the same O-line.

again, I am not a Reggie Bush hater. I followed his career all through college. I live in SoCal. But I can't stand the whole "Once in a life time player" tag he was given and the heat the Texans took over the pick. I know that barring injury Reggie Bush will have a solid NFL career. I have no doubt.
 
TexMex72 said:
"And the Houston Texans with the #1 pick, select
Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma."

That's what I hope I hear next Spring.

Mario did pretty good for the 1st half though. We need the whole game
next time.
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For the love of God....... in the second half, they had scoring drives of 23 yards, 40 yards, and 28 yards....... & you blame Mario??

Sheesh.....
 
Did anyone see Demarcus Ware?? or Marcus Spears??

this was supposed to be a tough, highly ranked defense we faced, and none of the guys we drool over did anything.

They had no sacks...... none, nada zip..... zero. I bet David wasn't hurried more than 5 times, and hit less than 3.

& you can call Demarcus Ware a Lb if you want, but Mario was dropped into coverage more than he was.
 
kbourda said:
This is my first post in about two weeks but here it goes...... First of all, i'm no Bush fan but his presence on the Saints offense is very apparent. To say he hasn't done anything for their offense would be like saying Mario isn't doing anything by not recording a sack. Bush is a decoy and is being used as such right now. But I do agree with you about Brees. And i'll go on record as saying I was impressed with the effort Mario gave today.
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Being used as a Decoy??

are you serious?? they are putting the ball in his hands, and all that stuff you saw on the highlight films are not happening. I counted 3 third & shorts(& I didn't watch the whole game) that he wasn't even on the field. Why wouldn't you have your decoy on the field in third & short situations??

Reggie Bush is, and has been a non-factor for the newOrleans saints.

they use JoeHorn as a Decoy, and Duece McAllister as a decoy. but when they put the ball in there hands, they do something with it to warrant beeing used as a decoy.
 
thunderkyss said:
Being used as a Decoy??

are you serious?? they are putting the ball in his hands, and all that stuff you saw on the highlight films are not happening. I counted 3 third & shorts(& I didn't watch the whole game) that he wasn't even on the field. Why wouldn't you have your decoy on the field in third & short situations??

Reggie Bush is, and has been a non-factor for the newOrleans saints.

they use JoeHorn as a Decoy, and Duece McAllister as a decoy. but when they put the ball in there hands, they do something with it to warrant beeing used as a decoy.
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Yeah, you need to do more then average 3 yards a carry and 7 a catch to be worthy of "decoy" status.
 
Mr teX said:
He was solid today, I think everyone pretty much has it correct in that he was good in the first half, gone in the 2nd. But he & Demeco need help. In Particular, on the DL , I don't think Payne is the answer in the middle, he's not pushing the pile so those other guys can "twist" effectively".
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whew ... time out. admittedly i'm a homer, but payne the best DT we've got, especially when it comes to "pushing the pile". replay barber's touchdown, payne is the only texan that ended up in the backfield. payne commands double teams and that's why he got the holding penalty ... both the LG and C made it their mission to tackle payne. seriously, payne is the only real run stuffer on the texans, and with his reported injury, we might not have one at all. johnson & johnson combined dont generate the push that payne does.
 
i thought mario looked good. provided good pressure, got his hands up to try and block some passes, and was very good in run support.
 
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