How can a call like that happen? honestly

[htownhitman]

Concerning the tuck rule, and the other rules concerning fumbles and forward passes:

EITHER THE RULES THEMSELVES, OR THE OFFICALS' INTERPRETATIONS OF THE RULES, ARE SERIOUSLY, COMPLETELY, *****ED!!!

THE NFL's INCOMPETENCE AND INDIFFERENCE ARE COSTING TEAMS GAMES AND CHAMPIONSHIPS.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE GET THE DAMN RULES FIXED!!!

 

[TheOgre]

stop complaining about one play, I agree with the refs when there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call. It looks more like he's pushing the ball with his palm without his fingers even around it... thus is being a fumble. The bengals got screwed on big plays as well, it really does even out.

Regardless of when his arm was hit, the ball doesn't leave his hand until it is far into the throwing motion. It was CLEARLY not a fumble, and I would be stunned if the league didn't apologize to the Texans later this week. The ESPN crew (Chris Berman, Tom Jackson, etc.) show even agreed it was a bad call.

There were questionable calls throughout the game that went both ways, but this call came at such a crutial time and situation that it determined the final outcome. I'm not saying that the Texans would have gone down and gotten a FG or TD, but they weren't even given a chance with that mistake. That call all but ended the game, whereas the other mistakes the refs made could be overcome much more easily.

 

[Doug]

I understand everyone is upset about the call (I was, too), but we should've never let this game come down to one bad call to determine a win or loss for us. I felt there were bad calls on both sides of the ball and this one just happened at a more crucial time than the others. It was a big and bad call but I don't hear anyone else talking about the other factors involved that stopped us from winning this game. For some reason in the second half our offense completely got away from the rollouts and other similar pass plays that had helped us move the ball at will against their defense in the first half. They never showed they could stop it so why did we get away from it? The last drive of the game the offense had a complete meltdown in the last minute with sacks and penalties. You can say (which I've seen some people already mention) that the previous bad call had alot to do with the Offenses bad state but if that's the case then it shows me that this team doesn't have the character to overcome these type of situations which there will be plenty more of. To blame this whole game on one bad call is outrageous, and as I recall, although there wasn't near as much time we still had a chance to take it to the house and the offense completely fell apart. JMO

 

[covcath1]

what would the down and distance after the phantom fumble.?.Yes, I'm a Bengal fan and thought it was an incomplete pass.. But, I think it would have been 3rd and 13....not exactly a guaranteed first down...I would have liked to see how the Bengals would have responded if the call went the other way.

 

[TheOgre]

I understand everyone is upset about the call (I was, too), but we should've never let this game come down to one bad call to determine a win or loss for us.

I hear this a lot and I think it is league and media propaganda at work. It is a saying we have heard so much, that we just blindly accept it. The difference between good teams and bad teams is the ability to win these close games. If you look at the Patriots over the past few years, they have had several close wins, including all 3 of their Super Bowls. One or two plays can mean the difference between winning or losing.

In this case, the major play that cost us this game was a bad call from the refs. If we had gone on to win this game, it could have propelled us like the Chief's win last year. Instead, we are staring at an 0-3 start for the first time in our history. I would have liked to have seen if Carr and Co. could have gotten those next 35-40 yards to get into FG range, or better yet gotten a TD. It might not have happened, but we were all cheated out of that opportunity by a bad call. If we start out 0-8/1-7 or something horrible like that, I am going to look back at this game and wonder what could have been.

 

[Doug]

While I respect your opinion I don't agree with it at all. I don't feel I'm blindly accepting anything. I watched the game and saw several other things that we should be blaming for this loss rather than one bad call. As horrible as this game went (penalties, sacks, etc) all it took was one controversial thing to get everyone upset and to point the finger at. You can sit here and say "what if" all day but that scenario could be used for almost every call made throughout the game. There were several other penalties in this game that could've changed the outcome, but that would be the players fault, not the refs so we don't want to do that. (Sarcasm)

 

[cosmocon]

Dear Texan Fan,

I'm a die-hard Bengals fan but I have to admit, you guys got jobbed! The officiating was suspect the entire game and many of the bad calls went against the Bengals but that fumble call should have been corrected with the replay and wasn't. I saw NO way that could not be seen as an incomplete pass. I have to rate it as one of the Top 10 Colossal Blown Calls that I have ever seen. Just so you know, most Bengal fans DO recognize that the Texans got shafted on that and are shocked because for the past 15 years, those calls usually went against us.

Anyway, I didn't think the Texans looked too bad at all. A great effort by your O-Coordinator for a mid-season first game! Scared the hell out of me! Good luck through the rest of the season!

Apologetically Yours,
Random Cincy Bengal Fan

P.S. Glad the Stros edged out the Phillies and will be pulling for them to beat
out the Braves and, hopefully, Cards and freaking Yanks or Sox!

 

[infantrycak]

what would the down and distance after the phantom fumble.?.Yes, I'm a Bengal fan and thought it was an incomplete pass.. But, I think it would have been 3rd and 13....not exactly a guaranteed first down...I would have liked to see how the Bengals would have responded if the call went the other way.

It was a 1st and 10 play so it would have become a 2nd and 10 play. Not a gimme, but certainly a solid chance.

 

[dalemurphy]

It was a 1st and 10 play so it would have become a 2nd and 10 play. Not a gimme, but certainly a solid chance.

We're a bad team with very little fan support around the country. We can expect calls to go against us until that changes.

 

[Buzz]

what everyone is missing in this analysis is this IT IS THE SAME REFERREE WHO HAS NOW SCREWED UP NOT ONCE(Brady incomplete pass/fumble), NOT TWICE (coin toss debacle), BUT NOW, THREE TIMES(Carr incomplete pass/fumble)---AND HE IS STILL COLLECTING A PAYCHECK AFTER EVERY GAME

I say it's three strikes and he's out- hopefully somebody with the NFL will be smart and find a way to get rid of the guy without having to make the rest of the refs look bad and piss off whoever represents them, because I think that's what they're scared of.

Until the NFL has full time Referee's who actually are accountable and the NFL is willing to actually FIRE one of them for incompetence, this will continue. Talk about a 'Good ol Boys club' of looking the other way group of imbeciles.

I hate that PC-BS idea some people have, that the worst guy can still have a job because he's been a part of your group for a while and he's one of your good buddies.
I'm glad he doesn't work at a nuclear power plant or something, because he sounds like the type of guy who would eventually cause a disaster because of making the wrong decisions. (that's sarcasm if you can't tell)

 

[LBC_Justin]

That is a great point. Harrington, Boller and several other young QB's are criticized when they play poorly, but for some reason Carr gets a pass.

ummm if you guys think Carr is getting a pass you don't listen to NFL radio. They treat Carr and the Texans like garbage.....well, especially Shannon Sharpe. Not that it matters what Sharpe says, the guy is an idot and a racist.

 

[TheOgre]

IT IS THE SAME REFERREE WHO HAS NOW SCREWED UP NOT ONCE(Brady incomplete pass/fumble), NOT TWICE (coin toss debacle), BUT NOW, THREE TIMES(Carr incomplete pass/fumble)---AND HE IS STILL COLLECTING A PAYCHECK AFTER EVERY GAME

He botched the coin toss and the Carr fumble, but I don't think he messed up on the Brady pass. That is the rule and it has been called for years. It just wasn't well known to the public. While you could make a case that the rule itself needs to go, you really cannot say that the ref botched the call in that New England/Oakland game.

 

[touttail]

There were bad calls on both teams. That intentional grounding penalty was a b.s. call that you guys got. Probably saved a touchdown. The procedure penalty that brought back the TD was b.s. Saved you another score. Guys, I agree that you got a bad call on the turnover, but come on. Get over it.

Without the zebras, you guys would have been beat worse.

Wrong, Petey Faggins got a bad pass interference call in the endzone that was BS, that put you guys on the 1 yard line. That gave you another TD! This would cancel out your intentioning ground that could have been a TD.

bobby 119C