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How about Tony Romo in Houston

JCTexan said:
Untenable enough to toss away a 2nd round pick? I don't really buy that. Even if the goal at QB next year is a rookie, you pay Os another year even if it's as a 3rd stringer. You might have to deal with Osweiler's attitude but you wouldn't hurt your future keeping Os. Trading a 2nd hurts the future of this team, which makes me believe the Texans needed the cash to go after a free agent QB they covet (Romo or Cousins). I think Cousins is staying in Washington another year which only leaves Romo.
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Think about everything for a second.

There were a couple reports of OB and Os getting into heated exchanges about playcalling. They pretty much admitted as much so I imagine there were probably some that weren't reported. There were reports about Smith and OB having a divide because of Os. There were recent reports about Os wishing he'd stayed in Denver.

But let's say none of that is true. (I think at least some of it is if not all)

What's undeniable is that Os sucked a lot for whatever reason.

And if I'm not mistaken, the Texans could have signed Romo (not sure about traded for) to a nice contract and structured it to have a low cap hit the first year so that they still could've kept Brock.

But you'd think that if the only reason they traded him was to trade for Romo that the Romo trade would've happened by now, right? Instead there are reports about the Cowboys flip flopping about what they're going to do.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Not all of 'we' did those things though. Some of us thought the large majority of that time that Romo was a damn good QB who often times seemed scapegoated unnecessarily for a team that was full of holes that contributed to their failures and wouldn't even be in the spots they were in were it not for his play.

I remember thinking in fact just how obnoxious Cowboys fans sounded thinking they had it so bad with Romo.

Just a different side of 'we' I guess.
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I've always been a Romo fan.

My uncle is a huge Cowboys fan and I remember watching Romo in pre season with him when Romo was a pup. I thought he looked great and I told my uncle Romo was going to be a really good QB. My uncle always brings that up.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Jerry Jones' s change of heart (actually probably Stephen's) is about getting an asset for something he was going to do anyway. The Texans look desperate and the Broncos are trying to put on a poker face. why not wait out for one of them to blink or at least make another move?
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Do you really think the Texans look desperate with the disposition of Oswieler, AT ?
I disagree friend because I think it makes Rick look pretty dang savvy by swinging this deal with the Browns to rid our team of arguable it's biggest single burden. We've now increased our cap space by about 25% and also gained significant flexibility for roster moves at a critical time like this during FA and going into the Draft.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Jerry Jones' s change of heart (actually probably Stephen's) is about getting an asset for something he was going to do anyway. The Texans look desperate and the Broncos are trying to put on a poker face. why not wait out for one of them to blink or at least make another move?
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Agree totally. I bet it works too. The longer the Texans and Broncos wait for Tony Romo to become available, the FA pool shrinks. They run the risk of not acquiring Romo and also not having improved their team with their cap space.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
But you'd think that if the only reason they traded him was to trade for Romo that the Romo trade would've happened by now, right? Instead there are reports about the Cowboys flip flopping about what they're going to do.
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If they're not positive Romo will get cut, sure. I'm sure the Texans believe Romo will eventually get cut. If the Texans aren't planning on going after Romo then I don't understand why they wouldn't have just cut Osweiler and taken the $16 Million hit. The only logical reason to give up a 2nd is they needed the $$$ to go after a free agent like Romo. Surely the Texans wouldn't have traded a 2nd just to free up $$$ if they didn't plan on using it at QB, right?
 
DocBar said:
Why would you keep Os, even if he's a third stringer? I'm a believer in moving on from your mistakes as quickly as possible.
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Sure, I get that. My only thing is if the Texans aren't needing the cash to go after Romo then why not just take the cap hit? Sure it's a pretty big hit ($16 Mil) but you don't hurt your future by trading a 2nd rounder if you're just planning on going with Savage or a rookie at QB next year.
 
I don't think Romo even wants to play here in Houston. Remember, we have a egomaniac head coach that is so hard headed and set in his ways, that despite how pitiful our offense was, he now refuses to even discuss hiring a new offensive coordinator, mainly because the front office forced him to fire HIS offensive coordinator at the end of the season. Why would top NFL veteran quarterback like Tony Romo want to put himself in the middle of that situation and have to put up with Sour Puss Bill O'Brein???
 
humblegeo said:
I don't think Romo even wants to play here in Houston. Remember, we have a egomaniac head coach that is so hard headed and set in his ways, that despite how pitiful our offense was, he now refuses to even discuss hiring a new offensive coordinator, mainly because the front office forced him to fire HIS offensive coordinator at the end of the season. Why would top NFL veteran quarterback like Tony Romo want to put himself in the middle of that situation and have to put up with Sour Puss Bill O'Brein???
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I get what you're saying, but one of the things I think the Patriots... & Steelers do well, is they develop their coaches just like they develop their players. That may also be one of the reasons Patriot co-ordinators don't succeed at the next level because that don't have that system in place. They're bringing together a hodge podge of coaches that don't "get" the Patriot way.

Bringing a guy in at OC... a lot of things will have to change. A lot of things you don't necessarily want to change. O'b taking over the offense really made the most sense to me... moving Sean Ryan to QB coach did as well. Coming from New York where the same system had been in place for a while, he may be our next OC.


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"I think Sean could probably call the plays right now, but I think it's important for me to take a little bit more ownership of this offense," O'Brien said. "I think Sean is destined to be a coordinator in this league.

"He's a very bright guy, is quick on his feet and works his butt off. Players respect him. So, yeah, I can see him doing that (calling plays) down the road."
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Scooter said:
10 years ago we laughed at the Cowboys and Romo's failed snap. And for 10 years we have enjoyed the failure that is the Cowboys inability to reach the playoffs, and get one-done when they did get into the playoffs (twice). We have spent that decade laughing at the guy who seems to disappear in crunch time. We have teased our friends up I-45 because their quarterback was too broken to play, and over the past 2 years seemed quite obvious he may never play again. All of a sudden that gets wiped out because O'Brien has given us 4 years of quarterbacks and scheme so bad that the player we've most ridiculed, playing with a collarbone and vertebrae held together with duct tape, is our best chance at success. We have to sacrifice a 2nd round pick just to free up cap room for this player, who has no experience with our team or system.

Someone please quote Ron Simmons for me.
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Ridicule as people did, Romo's play in his last full seasons was pro bowl level. His 2014 season was one of the best seasons for a qb of all time. The legitimate concern with Romo is health. His level of play is not. If by chance he remains healthy enough to make it through the season and be ready for a playoff run, big if of course, it would be the best chance the Texans have ever had to go to the super bowl.


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jradMIT said:
Ridicule as people did, Romo's play in his last full seasons was pro bowl level. His 2014 season was one of the best seasons for a qb of all time. The legitimate concern with Romo is health. His level of play is not. If by chance he remains healthy enough to make it through the season and be ready for a playoff run, big if of course, it would be the best chance the Texans have ever had to go to the super bowl.


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The level of play in 2014 isn't really in question, but level of play in 2017 after multiple serious injuries is in question.
 
JCTexan said:
Sure, I get that. My only thing is if the Texans aren't needing the cash to go after Romo then why not just take the cap hit? Sure it's a pretty big hit ($16 Mil) but you don't hurt your future by trading a 2nd rounder if you're just planning on going with Savage or a rookie at QB next year.
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I'm not at all a fan of trading away draft picks, but I don't think that a, more likely than not, low 2nd round pick is going to significantly hurt the Texans.
And, yes, I'm sure they needed the money to pursue Romo. Whether we like it or not.
 
JCTexan said:
Sure, I get that. My only thing is if the Texans aren't needing the cash to go after Romo then why not just take the cap hit? Sure it's a pretty big hit ($16 Mil) but you don't hurt your future by trading a 2nd rounder if you're just planning on going with Savage or a rookie at QB next year.
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Not saying this the case but, they could be saving that money for next year. Because of carryover, the money not spent this year can be used next. As of right now the Texans will have a ton of money next year. And while we all think this is a move to get Romo, you have to consider they could be hedging their bets building up cap room to make a huge run next year at Cousins or Jimmy G.


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IDEXAN said:
Do you really think the Texans look desperate with the disposition of Oswieler, AT ?
I disagree friend because I think it makes Rick look pretty dang savvy by swinging this deal with the Browns to rid our team of arguable it's biggest single burden. We've now increased our cap space by about 25% and also gained significant flexibility for roster moves at a critical time like this during FA and going into the Draft.
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If I were another team, I would treat the Texans as though they were desperate. No real viable starter, a playoff level defense with its best player coming back off injury, an improving division,.

Under pure speculation, If I were the Texans i would make sure that after making a move that looks desperate, I put out a story show how much a w(b) itch my ex-was too. especially, already being linked to Romo via rumor at least.
 
jradMIT said:
Not saying this the case but, they could be saving that money for next year. Because of carryover, the money not spent this year can be used next. As of right now the Texans will have a ton of money next year. And while we all think this is a move to get Romo, you have to consider they could be hedging their bets building up cap room to make a huge run next year at Cousins or Jimmy G.


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That's the same thing people on here were saying when Smith didn't spend his cap (6 mil) last yr and had a terrible OL.

The McNair's decided to pocket the $$$$ I guess because they sure aren't spending it in FA.
 
steelbtexan said:
That's the same thing people on here were saying when Smith didn't spend his cap (6 mil) last yr and had a terrible OL.

The McNair's decided to pocket the $$$$ I guess because they sure aren't spending it in FA.
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I dunno but I can see how they thought the O-line was good enough going into the season, injuries and Allen playing like garbage couldn't be foreseen.


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ArlingtonTexan said:
If I were another team, I would treat the Texans as though they were desperate. No real viable starter, a playoff level defense with its best player coming back off injury, an improving division,.

Under pure speculation, If I were the Texans i would make sure that after making a move that looks desperate, I put out a story show how much a w(b) itch my ex-was too. especially, already being linked to Romo via rumor at least.
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Add that the coach and FO are on a bit of a hot seat. They need to make something work, especially after this trade that opens up cap space almost exclusively for this year.

The Texans are almost assuredly considered to be desperate right now.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Under pure speculation, If I were the Texans i would make sure that after making a move that looks desperate, I put out a story show how much a w(b) itch my ex-was too. especially, already being linked to Romo via rumor at least.
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And, I'd bring the only remaining viable veteran QB (Cutler) in to turn up the heat on Romo. Romo can force the Cowboy's hand. I seriously doubt they want Romo to start making public comments about them refusing to let him go to another team. If Romo thinks the Texans are going to drop out of contention for his services & take all that extra cap room with them, he might just force the Cowboy's hand. Just a thought.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Good news for those on the we-want-Romo-bandwagon ...

John McClain: If John Elway and the Broncos want him, Tony Romo will land in Denver (audio included)


So ya, as soon as Jerry cuts him he's as good as ours.
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I have to agree with McClain here. Romo sits down with Elway with all the Bronco Super Bowl rings on display. Elway says to Romo, we brought Peyton Manning in here so he could win a Super Bowl. We can do the same for you. Peyton was in the same situation as you and the Broncos turned out to be the right decision for him and it can also be for you too. You know in Houston there were strong rumors the Head Coach was on his way out at the end of last season. Good chance this season may be his last. Do you really want to go in to that dysfunctional arena where the Head Coach has a history of confrontations with his QBs?
 
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I have to agree with McClain here. Romo sits down with Elway with all the Bronco Super Bowl rings on display. Elway says to Romo, we brought Peyton Manning in here so he could win a Super Bowl. We can do the same for you.
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That's fair. But I'm betting even the Bronco's rings and Elway's clout can't ward off the McClain vouch-of-doom.

Wonder how much Lechler will sell his number for?
 
jradMIT said:
I dunno but I can see how they thought the O-line was good enough going into the season, injuries and Allen playing like garbage couldn't be foreseen.


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Brown coming back and playing as well as he did couldn't be foreseen. Bottom line that $$$$ didn't get spent and still hasn't been spent, even though people were making the same argument about holding onto the cap season room until the next season.
 
jradMIT said:
Not saying this the case but, they could be saving that money for next year. Because of carryover, the money not spent this year can be used next. As of right now the Texans will have a ton of money next year. And while we all think this is a move to get Romo, you have to consider they could be hedging their bets building up cap room to make a huge run next year at Cousins or Jimmy G.


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I doubt that's the plan, or I hope not anyway. As you said, we are already going to have plenty of space, with an option for more given cuts that could be made. If we gave up a second round pick next year to carry over cap, I'm totally at a loss as to their plan.
 
steelbtexan said:
Brown coming back and playing as well as he did couldn't be foreseen. Bottom line that $$$$ didn't get spent and still hasn't been spent, even though people were making the same argument about holding onto the cap season room until the next season.
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It was $4.9 mil and has rolled to this year.

No team spends to zero because people on IR still count so it is common to keep a few mil around to replace them or make in season moves. They spent money on Allen and it didn't work.

You're just looking for crud to beotch about.
 
infantrycak said:
It was $4.9 mil and has rolled to this year.

No team spends to zero because people on IR still count so it is common to keep a few mil around to replace them or make in season moves. They spent money on Allen and it didn't work.

You're just looking for crud to beotch about.
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Not really, I was beotching last yr when when I had to watcg Newton/Clark play knowing that the Texans had 5 mil left to spend. I understand about having to have a couple of mil left over for injuries.
 
infantrycak said:
Dude is UFA next year.
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I'm not saying I would make the trade but if you get Stafford you can franchise him in 18' and 19' so you'd have him for three years minimum.
So the questions are :
Are three years enough to justify that trade?
Is Stafford worth franchise money, and will be be still worth it in 19'?
 
Mollywhopper said:
Wonder how much Lechler will sell his number for?
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I think Romo would have to be the one to change jersey numbers. I mean, Lechler is already a HOFer, and maybe the best ever at his position. Plus, he's been here awhile now. I have been wondering about this myself too.
 
False Start said:
I think Romo would have to be the one to change jersey numbers. I mean, Lechler is already a HOFer, and maybe the best ever at his position. Plus, he's been here awhile now. I have been wondering about this myself too.
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Well Romo would defintely be at the mercy of Lecher here, I agree. Should have said 'would' sell it for. If he has a magic number, for himself or a charity he cares about, what would it have to be?
 
thunderkyss said:
Great, just what we need. Another injury prone QB wearing the number 8.


I swear to God, if Lechler doesn't give it up, I will punch him in the throat.
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Maybe if Romo does come here, he could be 18. You know 1+8 = 9 or something to that effect. As long as he doesn't go Romocopter, lol.

I know it's not all that important in the grand scheme of things, but I have always been fascinated with jersey numbers.

Yes! Please no number 8. That number should be banned by the front office from ever being worn by a QB again. Look at Brock, 1+7= 8. Fk that.
 
False Start said:
Maybe if Romo does come here, he could be 18. You know 1+8 = 9 or something to that effect. As long as he doesn't go Romocopter, lol.

I know it's not all that important in the grand scheme of things, but I have always been fascinated with jersey numbers.

Yes! Please no number 8. That number should be banned by the front office from ever being worn by a QB again. Look at Brock, 1+7= 8. Fk that.
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1, 2, 6, 16

These are the remaining QB numbers that are either not in use as of now or don't have stank of starting Texans QB's past on them.

Just fwiw..
 
Romo or Cutler could be the answer. I would also draft a guy in the 2nd or sign a young rehab project like Manuel or Geno.
 
Mollywhopper said:
1, 2, 6, 16

These are the remaining QB numbers that are either not in use as of now or don't have stank of starting Texans QB's past on them.

Just fwiw..
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Tony Romo should be number 2

Because with Tony Romo the Houston Texans are going to win back-to-back Super Bowls in 2017 and 2018. And all the haters can suck it!

I'm super excited about Romo right now.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Tony Romo should be number 2

Because with Tony Romo the Houston Texans are going to win back-to-back Super Bowls in 2017 and 2018. And all the haters can suck it!

I'm super excited about Romo right now.
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That'll prove too confusing. Then he'll be constantly mistaken for Johnny Football running around in circles in the backfield.:)
 
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