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How about Tony Romo in Houston

Osweiler is going to make $19M this year. Mike Glennon is going to make $15M.

You're fooling yourself if you think Romo is going to take $10-12M when those scrubs are getting that.
 
Marcus said:
Roll with what we have, draft a QB, and concentrate on improving the OL. Oh, but I guess that's not sexy enough for the 'fanbase', huh?

Everyone on the board and the NFL network falling all over themselves over a 38 year old multiple neck, multiple back surgery has been/never was, who has done jack fricken squat in the playoffs except figuring out how to blow the game all by himself.

What a gag fest.
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To be fair, sticking with what you have (and maybe a 3rd/4th round rookie) means you aren't trying to win this year. Maybe the Texans get lucky and the rookie is the next Dak or Russell Wilson, but it ain't likely.

Granted, the Texans aren't winning either way, even with Romo or Cutler.

Working on the o-line is smart, but I wouldn't blame the team for trying to make a big splash. Trotting out a carousel of backups when two teams in your division have franchise QBs is not a good look. Maybe three depending on how you feel about Bortels
 
ChampionTexan said:
Maybe he will, and maybe there's someone out there waiting to do that for him, but of the teams that are both legitimate Super Bowl contenders with a Tony Romo, and are believed to have interest in him, who's gonna do that?

Tony's scheduled base salary for 2017 is (was?) $14 Million. That's what a team trading for him would have had to pay him in cash, and that's what a team trading for him would have charged against the 2017 cap. Considering I'm guessing the Cowboys would have taken virtually nothing for him (as opposed to cutting him and getting literally nothing for him), if someone was planning on a Brock Osweiler type contract, why wouldn't they have pulled the trigger on a trade instead?
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It's $14 Million only because it was restructured twice.
  • 2014 Restructure: $12.5 million
  • 2015 Restructure: $16M/5 years
The true number is is much closer to $20 Million plus. Because of borrowing from Peter to pay Paul Dallas is now having to pay the Piper to a tune of
$19,600,000.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tony-romo-2447/
 
The1ApplePie said:
To be fair, sticking with what you have (and maybe a 3rd/4th round rookie) means you aren't trying to win this year...
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I disagree. IMO, Savage or Weeden would be an improvement over Oz, with an excellent chance to increase our win-lose to 10-6. I guess it depends on whether you consider 10-6 to be "winning". I do.
 
Marcus said:
Roll with what we have, draft a QB, and concentrate on improving the OL. Oh, but I guess that's not sexy enough for the 'fanbase', huh?

Everyone on the board and the NFL network falling all over themselves over a 38 year old multiple neck, multiple back surgery has been/never was, who has done jack fricken squat in the playoffs except figuring out how to blow the game all by himself.

What a gag fest.
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Uhh, was just asking your opinion.

No falling over anyone or gagging needed.
 
Texian said:
It's $14 Million only because it was restructured twice.
  • 2014 Restructure: $12.5 million
  • 2015 Restructure: $16M/5 years
The true number is is much closer to $20 Million plus. Because of borrowing from Peter to pay Paul Dallas is now having to pay the Piper to a tune of
$19,600,000.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tony-romo-2447/
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What does the restructuring have to do with a team trading for him? Dallas has to eat those costs whatever happens to Romo.
 
ChampionTexan said:
What does the restructuring have to do with a team trading for him? Dallas has to eat those costs whatever happens to Romo.
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Yes Dallas has to eat those cost but Tony is going to want a $20 million contract not a $14 million. Likely he can veto any trade and why Dallas is thinking of cutting him.
 
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ChampionTexan said:
What does the restructuring have to do with a team trading for him? Dallas has to eat those costs whatever happens to Romo.
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It may be unrealistic, but if Romo has that kind of money going into his bank account, one could ask, how greedy for more is he?
 
Number19 said:
I disagree. IMO, Savage or Weeden would be an improvement over Oz, with an excellent chance to increase our win-lose to 10-6. I guess it depends on whether you consider 10-6 to be "winning". I do.
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"Winning" is the Super Bowl, maybe an AFC Title if you aim low enough. Going 10-6 in a crap division while playing near-unwatchable football is not "winning."

Weedden ain't good, never was. Savage sure get's hyped for a guy that has done nothing but get hurt and carry a clipboard for the likes of Oz and Hoyer
 
ChampionTexan said:
Who do you believe are the realistic candidates to pay him that sort of money?
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The Texans for one. But there are plenty of teams that need a QB. He may want to play for a contender but I'd be surprised to see him take a $10M offer from a contender over a $20M offer from someone else.
 
I don't mind a trade, but you better damn well restructure that deal somehow!

I've been on the Romo train from the start for better or worse. While he is a huge injury risk, he is light years better than Larry, Curly, or Moe.

You guys want to roll with the 3 stooges? Go right ahead. I say roll the dice and see what you roll.
 
WolverineFan said:
The Texans for one. But there are plenty of teams that need a QB. He may want to play for a contender but I'd be surprised to see him take a $10M offer from a contender over a $20M offer from someone else.
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So why wasn't there more interest in trading for him than there appeared to be?
 
If you were forced to do one or the other.
Trade for Tony Romo or sign Jay Cutler?
Which option do you find the most appealing?
 
The1ApplePie said:
To be fair, sticking with what you have (and maybe a 3rd/4th round rookie) means you aren't trying to win this year. Maybe the Texans get lucky and the rookie is the next Dak or Russell Wilson, but it ain't likely.

Granted, the Texans aren't winning either way, even with Romo or Cutler.

Working on the o-line is smart, but I wouldn't blame the team for trying to make a big splash. Trotting out a carousel of backups when two teams in your division have franchise QBs is not a good look. Maybe three depending on how you feel about Bortels
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Let's see:

Luck has had a few decent seasons but hasn't drug a lousy team to the promised land. Injured and bad season. He's only a franchise QB if they can actually build an OL.

Mariota has been just as injured and the Titans just enjoyed their best season in a while.

Bortles is a big question mark. Is he a bust or is the organization a bust?

Savage hasn't had the benefit of walking into being QB1 from day one like the guys mentioned above. Obie was never going to start him year 1...he wanted time to groom his QB. Injured Year 1. Year 2 he was put on IR versus using a roster spot while he recuperated from a non season-ending injury. Obie and RS were obviously protecting him. Year 3 McNair and RS jumped the gun and signed Osweiler. No way after this signing was O'Brien going to be allowed to let Savage compete. Savage should have gotten his chance before 2017 but IMHO, if this decision falls on O'Brien's shoulders, he's going into 2017 with Savage under center. One and half games as a starter hasn't told this guys story...I want to see what he brings to the table if he's given the same opportunity as Osweiler.
 
What about something like trading Brock and a 4th for Romo? Cowboys would then only get 1 year of guaranteed money for Brock and a backup for DAK instead of 3 years of dead money with releasing Romo. Then, they can get rid of Brock next year and be back to neutral on the cap space. It would give the Texans cap space to be able to assume Romo's contract.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
If you were forced to do one or the other.
Trade for Tony Romo or sign Jay Cutler?
Which option do you find the most appealing?
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If a veteran is needed...I'd sign Nick Foles before I spent draft picks and money on Romo or the money Cutler may feel like he deserves. Foles is talented, has put up a really good season, is a nice pocket passing QB and could be very affordable.


I'd prefer the low cost angle.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
If you were forced to do one or the other.
Trade for Tony Romo or sign Jay Cutler?
Which option do you find the most appealing?
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Well obviously you'd have to know the consideration involved.
I would cough up a very late round pick for Roma and even bump it up conditionally subject to Romo starting a minimum number of gams in '17 like maybe 14 games.
 
WolverineFan said:
Neither. One is severely injury prone and the other is a bad teammate.

I'll take my chances in the draft over those two.
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Where does the "bad teammate" thing come from? Not a Cutler guy, but I thought that rep was just from the media and internet memes spinning him looking mopey on the sidelines after he got injured that one time. honestly, the only things I know about Cutler off the field is that he married some chick from the Hills and Phillip Rivers legit hates him.
 
RagingBull said:
What about something like trading Brock and a 4th for Romo? Cowboys would then also get 1 year of guaranteed money for Brock and a backup for DAK in addition to 3 years of dead money with trading Romo. Then, they can get rid of Brock next year and be back to neutral on the cap space. It would give the Texans cap space to be able to assume Romo's contract.
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FIFY

Trade, cut, the only way the Cowboys can avoid dead money is to keep Romo, and then, they're on the hook for base salary.
 
WolverineFan said:
You mean like the reports of the Broncos trying to trade for him right now?
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I've heard the Cowboys are holding off on cutting him, and the way I've seen the Broncos status described is that they "might" be willing to trade for him.

Any links to reports of them actively trying to trade for him?
 
Bulls on Parade said:
If you were forced to do one or the other.
Trade for Tony Romo or sign Jay Cutler?
Which option do you find the most appealing?
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I'd take Cutler. We have a strong locker room so the teammate issue doesn't concern me. He's also much healthier than Romo. For the right price of course.

I don't know if/how the numbers would work trading for Romo.
 
ChampionTexan said:
I've heard the Cowboys are holding off on cutting him, and the way I've seen the Broncos status described is that they "might" be willing to trade for him.

Any links to reports of them actively trying to trade for him?
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Not sure if there's anything more current; about 4 hours old now:

Chris Mortensen‏Verified account@mortreport
Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.
 
PapaL said:
Not sure if there's anything more current; about 4 hours old now:

Chris Mortensen‏Verified account@mortreport
Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.
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More current:
Josina Anderson‏Verified account@JosinaAnderson 57m57 minutes ago
Was reiterated to me just now that the #Broncos still have not met altogether to discuss Romo yet.

Marc Sessler‏Verified account@MarcSesslerNFL 56m56 minutes ago
'This is not really what they see happening.' - @JamesPalmerTV on the Broncos trading for Tony Romo

Mike Klis‏Verified account@MikeKlis 46m46 minutes ago
Also as of 5 minutes ago, Broncos discussing, but not yet decided on how or whether to proceed on Tony Romo, per source. #9sports
 
The1ApplePie said:
Where does the "bad teammate" thing come from? Not a Cutler guy, but I thought that rep was just from the media and internet memes spinning him looking mopey on the sidelines after he got injured that one time. honestly, the only things I know about Cutler off the field is that he married some chick from the Hills and Phillip Rivers legit hates him.
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Brian Urlacher
 
ChampionTexan said:
I've heard the Cowboys are holding off on cutting him, and the way I've seen the Broncos status described is that they "might" be willing to trade for him.

Any links to reports of them actively trying to trade for him?
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No links just from what they've said on NFL Network.

Look, my original post wasn't meant to bash you. I just think it's a bit optimistic to think Romo will take a big discount on the open market when FA QB's are getting money thrown at them from all sides. Personally I wouldn't sign him period because he can't stay healthy.
 
WolverineFan said:
No links just from what they've said on NFL Network.

Look, my original post wasn't meant to bash you. I just think it's a bit optimistic to think Romo will take a big discount on the open market when FA QB's are getting money thrown at them from all sides. Personally I wouldn't sign him period because he can't stay healthy.
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If he can't stay healthy behind one of the best OL in football what makes people think he can stay healthy behind one the worst?
 
All you guys opposed to Romo, what is your alternate plan that is better? Play OS again? I'm trying to figure out how the thought of Romo makes folks sick but this doesn't.

Play Savage? I thought he was injury prone? So don't get Romo because he's injury prone so we can play another injury prone guy that we have no idea if he's anywhere near as good as Romo?

Or start a rookie? What excites you about this? We can still draft the rookie that you would supposedly start but give him some time to learn the system before getting thrown into the deep end.

I oppose getting him as well if it's not an incentive laden deal, but if the terms are right, the most we lose is developmental snaps for OS, Savage or a rookie. Either you're calling for a rookie to start which has its own down side or you've developed amnesia and are suddenly high on OS or Savage again. I don't get it.
 
Max said:
All you guys opposed to Romo, what is your alternate plan that is better? Play OS again? I'm trying to figure out how the thought of Romo makes folks sick but this doesn't.

Play Savage? I thought he was injury prone? So don't get Romo because he's injury prone so we can play another injury prone guy that we have no idea if he's anywhere near as good as Romo?

Or start a rookie? What excites you about this? We can still draft the rookie that you would supposedly start but give him some time to learn the system before getting thrown into the deep end.

I oppose getting him as well if it's not an incentive laden deal, but if the terms are right, the most we lose is developmental snaps for OS, Savage or a rookie. Either you're calling for a rookie to start which has its own down side or you've developed amnesia and are suddenly high on OS or Savage again. I don't get it.
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This is my plan, not what I expect. But I would release Os and eat his cap hit. I would draft a QB in the 4th round and go into training camp with Savage and Weeden; let the best man win QB1. I would already be anticipating drafting QB in the 1st round in the 2018 draft.
 
Some of you people are irrational. Calling Romo a never was? Seriously? He's not Tom Brady or Manning, or Rodgers in their prime, but he's been in that next tier of QB's for a decade and has outstanding stats. It's true he has been bad in the playoffs. Still, if he can remain even semi-healthy, he's the best QB to ever wear a Texans uni.

And if you don't like oft-injured QB's why even give Savage a second thought. That dude is young and has fewer miles on him than most college QB's but can't stay healthy for a QB sneak for crying out loud.

He literally is constantly injured. I was all about giving the keys to Tom and then look what happened. Oh look, it's another Savage injury. I'm done with Savage, especially considering in the times he has played - he hasn't been good. Sorry Savage humpers. He's definitely not the answer. He's backup / spot duty type at best. Os sucks. And if you want a never has been - that's Weeden although I'm not sure he isn't the best QB on the roster at the moment to be honest.
 
WolverineFan said:
Osweiler is going to make $19M this year. Mike Glennon is going to make $15M.

You're fooling yourself if you think Romo is going to take $10-12M when those scrubs are getting that.
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I've got to imagine a Romo deal will have to start with $14M in his pocket for 2017. That's where his value has been set by the contract he was just released from.

& if I were going to bring him in, I'd pay it (for the record, I'm not for it but won't cry incessantly if it happened). $5M salary, $10M bonus, three or four years on his contract. Roster bonuses for each consecutive year... gentleman's agreement, all he has to do is stay healthy & he'll be on next year's roster. & the year after.

I'm willing to negotiate on the dollars for each consecutive year & the roster bonuses. But if he's too far off from that, $5M/yr $10M roster bonuses... I don't know if I can do much for him.
 
zshawn10 said:
Adam Schefter

✔@AdamSchefter
Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.

2:36 PM - 9 Mar 2017
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What. The. Hell.

I'm stunned. Hell it's worth a 2nd to get rid of that dead weight.

This has to mean a run at Romo don't you guys think? I mean maybe they want to resign AJ, but unless they plan to roll with a rookie QB it has to be Romo. Cutler hasn't been linked to the Texans at all, so not buying Cutler.
 
I think the Osweiler trade news just got a little better.

Browns Get:
Osweiler & His Contract
2017 RD6
2018 RD2

Texans Get:
2017 RD4

Finally, a strong move.
 
Like the move. I'm hoping it is more of a sign to keep Bouye than go after Romo. I am just meh on Romo. Dude is 36 years old and just can't stay healthy these days.
 
Porky said:
It's a trade. Don't the Brown assume the cap number?
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By league rules you have to spend a certain high percentage of your available cash. They had an unbeleivably high cap number; they were having trouble spending it all. This trade eats up some of their cap. It actually works to their advantage because they are getting our 2 next year.
 
Grams said:
There are a few of us here that have stated NO. Not only NO, but hell NO.

No to Romo and NO to Cutler. Now if Cousins was available, might have to seriously consider that one.
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I'm in this camp. If the Redskins actually want to move Cousins, I'd check my coffee cans and see if I could come up with enough 'loot' to make a competitive offer; knowing that Shanny Jr. and the Niners will probably also go all in for him too. But I'd at least give it my best shot.
Cutler and Romo can be someone else's problems.
 
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Bulls on Parade said:
Tony Romo and Jay Cutler are both available now.
Both of them are just oozing with intrigue at the buffet line.
What are Rick Smith and Bill O'Brien talking about right now?
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Hopefully who the best rookie to target in the draft will be. NOT Cutler or Romo.
 
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