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Highest Paid Offensive Line in the NFL?

Coach C. said:
People I and Vinny are not going to post this again. The pass blocking scheme is the same. The running scheme is different. Zone Blocking only refers to the running scheme. Damn Vinny I know now why you want to drink so much. Kidding man.
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Pass blocking scheme may be the same but the production is not. Something in what coach Pendry is teaching has changed things. Maybe he teaches a different technique in pass blocking. The scheme can be the same but the methods to carry it out can be different. Seems to me that Wade looked better in year 3 than in year 4. He had technique that he brought with him from Miami that IMO apparently Pendry has changed. Seth Wand was described as the proto-type offensive tackle for the NFL but Pendry couldn't get it done with him. Pitts was supposedly not an NFL tackle, but the TE coach had him playing one, at least seemingly average and headed in the right direction in year 2. IMO, it would appear that Pendry has changed something in the pass protection as well, if not scheme, then technique.
 
Another article on zone blocking by Denver

Everything you read about on zone blocking emphasises that it is a technique that requires some length of time to learn, requires a certain kind of athlete, and requires players who remain aggressive in their blocking techniques and do not let down. The technique is always talked about in terms of a running game and passing is mentioned if at all as an after thought. Very few professional teams employ it and there must be a reason. YES THE TEXANS AND CAPERS DOWNFALL STARTED WHEN THEY WENT TO ZONE BLOCKING..........................................
 
mean mark8 said:
Pass blocking scheme may be the same but the production is not. Something in what coach Pendry is teaching has changed things. Maybe he teaches a different technique in pass blocking. The scheme can be the same but the methods to carry it out can be different. Seems to me that Wade looked better in year 3 than in year 4. He had technique that he brought with him from Miami that IMO apparently Pendry has changed. Seth Wand was described as the proto-type offensive tackle for the NFL but Pendry couldn't get it done with him. Pitts was supposedly not an NFL tackle, but the TE coach had him playing one, at least seemingly average and headed in the right direction in year 2. IMO, it would appear that Pendry has changed something in the pass protection as well, if not scheme, then technique.
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MeanMark way to make a credible post. you are right on the change in the pass protection.
 
Ibar if you are making the point that we do not have the athletes to run zone blocking then I might agree with you, but to imply that Zone Blocking is the reason we cannot block is crazy. Denver is 5-1 right now. The main problem is that Pendry and whoever the other line guy is cant remember his name have changed the pass protection scheme. This is evident in watching how the linemen set up in pass protection which for the people who cant spot it is in the way they slide to their base. Our lineman are not getting to their base and that is evidence of a change. That has nothing to do with ZoneBlocking.
 
Ibar_Harry said:
Denver is not a passing team ...
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2004 Jake Plummer 521 passing attempts 4089 yds--yet another good call by Ibar.

The technique is always talked about in terms of a running game and passing is mentioned if at all as an after thought.
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Duh!!! That is exactly what many people have been telling you when you keep bringing up this drivel about zone blocking and the pass protection--they aren't related.

Very few professional teams employ it and there must be a reason.
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Wrong yet again. Every team in the NFL runs zone blocking some of the time. The Broncos, Baltimore, Atlanta and Texans use it as their primary but not exclusive run blocking scheme.
 
infantrycak said:
2004 Jake Plummer 521 passing attempts 4089 yds--yet another good call by Ibar.



Duh!!! That is exactly what many people have been telling you when you keep bringing up this drivel about zone blocking and the pass protection--they aren't related.



Wrong yet again. Every team in the NFL runs zone blocking some of the time. The Broncos, Baltimore, Atlanta and Texans use it as their primary but not exclusive run blocking scheme.
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Yes and DUH Carr's sack total starting going through the roof again in year 3 and look at what's happening in year 4. DD had real problems at the beginning of the year adjusting to the new scheme. Later on to his credit he began to do much better. You can say what you want but the primary offensive change between year 2 and where we are at now is the zone blocking scheme. Wade was brought in but that was for his run blocking skills. We have had essentially no change in our offensive team starting with year 3, but we did change the blocking scheme. That was the biggest single and perhaps only change. End result has been a disaster. WHY?
 
Ibar_Harry said:
That was the biggest single and perhaps only change. End result has been a disaster. WHY?
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Yeah, the three new starters weren't a change, that couldn't be the why, along with the protections called by Palmer and shifting away from 3 step drops. Nope none of those are changes, none could be the why--must be the change in the run blocking. Hey Dunta joined the team in between 2003 and 2004--maybe that's what caused the change--same coincidence of timing and has just as much to do with the pass protection which is nada.
 
...on the FOXSports.com list of the NFL's most overpaid players...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5002168

*1. Houston Texans Offensive Line
First, a little perspective on this unit. In Superman: The Movie, a teenage Clark Kent punted a football out of his high school stadium. If he played behind this line, it wouldn't matter how far he could kick the ball because he would lead the league in punts blocked. That's how inept this bunch has been since 2002 — just ask quarterback David Carr.

In 2004, the Texans had the third-highest total payroll in the NFL ($97.5 million), and 19 percent of it was devoted to one of the worst offensive lines in football. Carr might have had more success stacking the $12 million between him and the defense and praying that the sight of free money would at least allow him to complete a five-step drop.

After not being able to lure Orlando Pace away from the Rams, the Texans settled on former Saints left tackle, Victor Riley. Left guard Chester Pitts is a penalty machine who led the league with 21 penalties in 2003 and then was tied for second with 14 penalties in 2004. Steve McKinney, Zach Wiegert, and Todd Wade round out a bunch that has given up 33 sacks through six games this season.

Domanick Davis, Vernand Morency, or even Clark Kent won't make much of a difference in the running game as long as there is no one to block for them.*

AHEM...haven't we been saying this since DAY ONE?!?!?!?!
 
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1. Houston Texans Offensive Line
First, a little perspective on this unit. In Superman: The Movie, a teenage Clark Kent punted a football out of his high school stadium. If he played behind this line, it wouldn't matter how far he could kick the ball because he would lead the league in punts blocked. That's how inept this bunch has been since 2002 — just ask quarterback David Carr.

In 2004, the Texans had the third-highest total payroll in the NFL ($97.5 million), and 19 percent of it was devoted to one of the worst offensive lines in football. Carr might have had more success stacking the $12 million between him and the defense and praying that the sight of free money would at least allow him to complete a five-step drop.

After not being able to lure Orlando Pace away from the Rams, the Texans settled on former Saints left tackle, Victor Riley. Left guard Chester Pitts is a penalty machine who led the league with 21 penalties in 2003 and then was tied for second with 14 penalties in 2004. Steve McKinney, Zach Wiegert, and Todd Wade round out a bunch that has given up 33 sacks through six games this season.

Domanick Davis, Vernand Morency, or even Clark Kent won't make much of a difference in the running game as long as there is no one to block for them.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5002168?GT1=7409
 
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