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Here is a very good looking offer from Denver

Nighthawk said:
Anyone have a clue about this? Sounds like BS rumor msg board cr*p to me. If it's real and we haven't taken it yet I want to know the reason why.
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Not sure, I don't think they mean they are trying to give both of the picks up for future picks, and they definitely wouldn't give both of them up for next year's 1st and 3rd as has been proposed (780 + 640 = 1420 pts. on the pick value chart, our future 1st and future 3rd is approximately worth 690 pts). We could probably trade next year's 1st and 3rd for one of their 1sts this year, but I don't really want to do that.
 
I realy dont like the idea of trading away our first round pick next year. If we end up with a top ten pick next year and we traded it to the broncos everybody including me is going to go crazy during the offseason.
 
1. Reggie Bush
22. Justice/Winston
29. Nick Mangold/Chad Jackson
33. Jonathan Joseph/Leonard Pope
65. Safety that fell or MLB
66. BPA (DE or OL)
97. BPA (DE or OL)
 
Dunta_23 said:
1. Reggie Bush
22. Justice/Winston
29. Nick Mangold/Chad Jackson
33. Jonathan Joseph/Leonard Pope
65. Safety that fell or MLB
66. BPA (DE or OL)
97. BPA (DE or OL)
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I like the idea of yours. :redtowel:
 
Best Player Available...something a lot of bad teams have a hard time picking because they are trying to fill needs...thats why good teams fill needs with mediocre free agents and select the best players available on draft day
 
MorKnolle said:
Not sure, I don't think they mean they are trying to give both of the picks up for future picks, and they definitely wouldn't give both of them up for next year's 1st and 3rd as has been proposed (780 + 640 = 1420 pts. on the pick value chart, our future 1st and future 3rd is approximately worth 690 pts). We could probably trade next year's 1st and 3rd for one of their 1sts this year, but I don't really want to do that.
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The only way our 1st and 3rd next year would be worth only 690 points is if we won the superbowl, my guess is next year we finish in the top 16 of the draft with 1st (#16) = 1000 and 3rd (#33) = 190 or 1190 a lot closer, plus one of our 3rd (#66) this year? = 260 total = 1450 and we are there plus it helps them out with salary cap issues:

#1 Bush (or trade down for a #1 next year?)
#22 Cromartie/Youtaboy
#29 Pope/Lewis/Moss
#33 Mangold/Latui
#65 BPA? LB/DL/OL
 
Kookus said:
The only way our 1st and 3rd next year would be worth only 690 points is if we won the superbowl, my guess is next year we finish in the top 16 of the draft with 1st (#16) = 1000 and 3rd (#33) = 190 or 1190 a lot closer, plus one of our 3rd (#66) this year? = 260 total = 1450 and we are there plus it helps them out with salary cap issues:

#1 Bush (or trade down for a #1 next year?)
#22 Cromartie/Youtaboy
#29 Pope/Lewis/Moss
#33 Mangold/Latui
#65 BPA? LB/DL/OL
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Future picks are worth one round lower in this year's chart (i.e. our 2007 1st rounder is worth our 2006 2nd rounder, etc.) No way the Broncos give up two 1st round picks this year for a future 1st and future 3rd, even though their 1sts this year are fairly low for them, if anything they are looking to trade one of these picks off for a future 1st and future 3rd, so we could probably get #22 for our 2007 1st and 3rd. The only way I would do that is on draft day if someone like Eric Winston falls to #22 then we call the Broncos up and make that offer so we can snag Winston, but until we know we are guaranteed to get a certain player that is worth making this trade then I would not even consider it.
 
MorKnolle said:
Future picks are worth one round lower in this year's chart (i.e. our 2007 1st rounder is worth our 2006 2nd rounder, etc.) No way the Broncos give up two 1st round picks this year for a future 1st and future 3rd, even though their 1sts this year are fairly low for them, if anything they are looking to trade one of these picks off for a future 1st and future 3rd, so we could probably get #22 for our 2007 1st and 3rd. The only way I would do that is on draft day if someone like Eric Winston falls to #22 then we call the Broncos up and make that offer so we can snag Winston, but until we know we are guaranteed to get a certain player that is worth making this trade then I would not even consider it.
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Thats interesting, so to make it work we would have to up the ante, which I would still consider, especially if we could seriously consider trading down to get a pick next year as long as we don't fall out of the top 4-7 this year.

Looks like we are going after Putz pretty hard, so a WR could be a viable option in this senario or how bout offering the #29 pick for J. Abraham? Looks like the Jets are going for Seattles offer of #31. Don't know what our salary cap implications would be but the senario would sure fill some holes for us.
 
Now that we have canceled the visit with burelson and Ike has resigned with the bucs I think this trade is becoming a better idea for the Texans. We could get a WR maybe Chad Jackson or Santonio Holms with the 22nd pick and oline with the 29th pick hopfully Winston or Mangold. We could then pick either a LB, CB, FS with our second round pick.

Would anybody be upset with this even though we probably wouldnt have a first or second round pick next year.
 
Bubbajwp said:
Now that we have canceled the visit with burelson and Ike has resigned with the bucs I think this trade is becoming a better idea for the Texans. We could get a WR maybe Chad Jackson or Santonio Holms with the 22nd pick and oline with the 29th pick hopfully Winston or Mangold. We could then pick either a LB, CB, FS with our second round pick.

Would anybody be upset with this even though we probably wouldnt have a first or second round pick next year.
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if our draft went bush,jackson,winston,ko simpson,gerris wilkerson, eslinger
in 1st 3 rounds dat would be off da chain
 
I still like this idea, How about this draft w/ trade to DENVER
(1) #1 Bush (HB)
(1b) #22 Moss (WR)
(1c) #29 Youtaboy (CB)
(2)#33 Mangold (C)
(3a) #65 Watkins (S)
(3b) #66 Cedric Griffin (CB))
or trade the two 3 round picks for a second round
(2b) #38 Allen or Simpson (S)
(4) #97 Chester (OG)
(5) #129 BPA (LB)
(6) #161 Eugene (QB) or McNeil (WR/QB)

YEAH BABY LETS WIN NOW!
 
Kookus said:
I still like this idea, How about this draft w/ trade to DENVER
(1) #1 Bush (HB)
(1b) #22 Moss (WR)
(1c) #29 Youtaboy (CB)
(2)#33 Mangold (C)
(3a) #65 Watkins (S)
(3b) #66 Cedric Griffin (CB))
or trade the two 3 round picks for a second round
(2b) #38 Allen or Simpson (S)
(4) #97 Chester (OG)
(5) #129 BPA (LB)
(6) #161 Eugene (QB) or McNeil (WR/QB)

YEAH BABY LETS WIN NOW!
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we need a RT
 
Kookus said:
O-Line
LT Pitts/Jones
LG McKinney/Chester
C Hodgdon/Mangold
RG Weary/Wiegart
RT Wand/Wade
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Wand/Wade........ GARBAGE
why draft a backup center when you can draft a starting RT
having a good RT will make more of an impact than the FS IMO.
 
Kookus said:
O-Line
LT Pitts/Jones
LG McKinney/Chester
C Hodgdon/Mangold
RG Weary/Wiegart
RT Wand/Wade
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thats not too bad of an idea. make our OL compete for their job. they slack up and let sacks happen, you give the job to the guy who wants to play more. we haven't really had any real competition amongst the OL in a while.
 
These all sound like nice ideas but the Broncos aren't about to give up the #22 and #29 for one future 1st and one future 3rd round picks. They would not even consider making this trade. They would likely give up one of these two picks for a future 1st and 3rd, but not both of them.
 
Denver's first round picks are now #15 & #22 Doesn't really sound like the thing to do, if you don't want either.....

Think we can get #15 & Denvers 3rd & 4th for Reggie??
 
thunderkyss said:
Denver's first round picks are now #15 & #22 Doesn't really sound like the thing to do, if you don't want either.....

Think we can get #15 & Denvers 3rd & 4th for Reggie??
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The Texans wouldn't make that trade in a million years.
 
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