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Hello (Season Opener Prediction Thread)

Wolf said:
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eventhough Lossman isn't a rookie, he is considered a "rookie" due to lack of game time (i.e. drew Henson) experience. I personally think this will be a low scoring game due to buffalo's defense is pretty tough and our ability to hopefully confuse Lossman.
10-7 or 13-7 ish Texans :cool:
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I wouldnt compare Losman to Drew Henson, I think Losman is more in a Carson Palmer situation watched a year on the bench and now get the nod to start. Although I am not comparing Palmer and Losman and any of their physical attributes, just saying its the same situation.
 
BillsFan said:
JP is NOT a rookie!!!!!!!!! he's a 2nd year guy. He's had a whole year to learn the offense.

The biggest problem that rookie QBs complain about is trying to understand the pro-game and playbook. JP so far has not only mastered the Bills playbook, he was correcting a coach during mini-camp.

i don't think JP will make much of a difference. I doubt Mularky will let him throw the ball more than 10 times.
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How much playing time has JP had? Carson Palmer had an entire year to learn the offense for the Bengals last season too, and in his second year he performed well (18TDs, 18INTs) but still had his share of mistakes. All the practice time in the world, and all the minicamp & college success equates to squat when it comes to the NFL. You have to actually learn the game out there on the field. Every QB must go through it, and JP is no exception. Ryan Leaf looked awesome in college, and played well in practice but he couldn't deliver on Sunday. Again, I don't think JP is going to end up anything like Leaf and I fully expect him to be a very good NFL QB. I'm sure Mularky wouldn't want to have to depend on JP either, but in a close game he may have no choice but to force JP to pass. If the Bills get behind they may very well have to pass more to get ahead. Also, don't you think Capers and Fangio will focus on stopping the Bills running game? We've played well against some of the better RBs in the NFL (LT, Priest, Edge, etc.). If we do so again against the Bills then it will all be up to JP to beat us.
 
texasguy346 said:
How much playing time has JP had? Carson Palmer had an entire year to learn the offense for the Bengals last season too, and in his second year he performed well (18TDs, 18INTs) but still had his share of mistakes.
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Exactly JP will have a year watching and now it is his time to step up. I would be estatic if he had a year like Palmer 18 tds 18 ints in his first year because we have a MUCH better defense and special teams by far the the bengals have. Of course he will have his share of mistakes no one is saying he wont. He is not going to be asked to win games though, but there will be times that he is and no body know how that will turn out.

He is in the same situation as Palmer though first round pick granted Palmer was numero uno, a year of watching behind the incumbent starter learning the playbook, etc. In his second year he was given the nod, just like JP is now.
 
In my opinion, Losman is gonna be bust in the NFL. He was a reach when Bills drafted him in the 1st round. He was clearly a 2nd maybe 3rd round guy. Thus if he doesn't make the Bills a playoff regular by at least next season, if not this one due to a strong defense, then people will start saying bust cuz he was a 1st round guy. If he went in the later rounds you'd never hear the word bust.
He just reminds too much of Cade McNown who was drafted by the Bears in, I believe, the 1st round. He was a bust.

CABills, I'm not trying to stir up doo-doo with ya, it's just my opinion cuz he reminds me of Cade.
Trust me, I hope he's good cuz the NFL is a better place when the Bills are good.

Hey, arent the Bills gonna enshrine Thurman Thomas in their Ring of Honor @ the game in week 1. He deserves it, he was awesome. Former Houstonian that played his HS football @ Willowridge. Kinda ironic, Houston guy gets enshrined in Buffalo while the Houston team is in for the game.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
In my opinion, Losman is gonna be bust in the NFL. He was a reach when Bills drafted him in the 1st round. He was clearly a 2nd maybe 3rd round guy.
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Some felt that he would have been the top QB taken in this draft if he stayed in. From what I understand some NFL people graded higher than Smith and Rogers.
 
Vinny said:
Some felt that he would have been the top QB taken in this draft if he stayed in. From what I understand some NFL people graded higher than Smith and Rogers.
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I didn't know he wasn't a senior. Why did he come out then??
 
He was...I just totally misworded that. What I meant was that he graded higher than the other guys (in some eyes) if he was in this class. Since the Bills gave up the 2005 pick his selection equates to taking a first rd pick this year.
 
Wolf said:
Unless the Texans take the Astro's approach(astros seem to lose to every MLB pitcher that is making his debut against the astros) ..they lose...
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That is so true. If teams really wanted to beat the Astros, they'd bring up a new guy from the minors every game to start against us.
 
J.P. is not a rookie, he does not have to worry about learning the system because he has already been in a year, we will mosy likely run more than pass in this game anyways. And i dont think there will be any deep balls. I think JP will do better than bledsoe would have, otherwise we would not have dropped them. Also i just don't see you being able to cover Moulds, Evans, Parrish and Reed. No offense but i think our st's will out perform yours, and our defense as well. We might not even need a good offense if Terrence can score on a KR, and Takeo or clements can intercept and run it in. I just think many people will be surprised by JP's readiness. I am confident because we dumped deadslow, which means Tom donahoe and Mularkey are comforatable with jp. If all else fails we can throw holcomb in there anyways.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
In my opinion, Losman is gonna be bust in the NFL. He was a reach when Bills drafted him in the 1st round. He was clearly a 2nd maybe 3rd round guy.
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Just to clear up somethings every mock draft had him going in the first to Greenbay, so I am not sure where you are getting this 2nd or 3rd round stuff from?

His stock rised to because many scouts felt he had the best proday and outperformed Eli Manning who ended up being the number 1 pick.

He very well could be a bust but your information about him is a little shaky. Also yes people had him rated above Smith and Rogers and probably would have gone very high if he would have stayed in for another year.

I think it is great the Bills got him when they did give him a year of grooming we would have been in quaterback hell with the people that came out this year, it would have been another long year of Bledsoe taking us to as far as he can go. Meaning not the playoffs.


**Dont worry about ruffling feathers I enjoy football talk amongst knowledgeable fans**
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Hey, arent the Bills gonna enshrine Thurman Thomas in their Ring of Honor @ the game in week 1. He deserves it, he was awesome. Former Houstonian that played his HS football @ Willowridge. Kinda ironic, Houston guy gets enshrined in Buffalo while the Houston team is in for the game.
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I believe so. Those teams in the 90s where so great. Jim Kelly, Andre Reed, Thurman, and Bruce all in there primes all on the same team. I only wish they could have won one, because the talent seems to be downplayed on that team because they never won, but show me the team that was gone to 4 straight. :hmmm:
 
CAbills said:
I believe so. Those teams in the 90s where so great. Jim Kelly, Andre Reed, Thurman, and Bruce all in there primes all on the same team. I only wish they could have won one..
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Yes, you really had it going on. They were great .. and as for Jim Kelly, many around Houston have a soft spot for that guy!
He was our local hero with the Gamblers.
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
Also i just don't see you being able to cover Moulds, Evans, Parrish and Reed.
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Well seeing as how you're probably not very familiar with our secondary I guess I should clue you in a bit. Dunta Robinson played great last season as a rookie, and he nearly finished with the DROY but Vilma won it. Phillip Buchanon will likely start opposite him, and he has tons of talent but he is a bit of a gambler at times. Our DB Coach, Hoke, did wonders with guys like Faggins and DRob and we expect him to do the same with Phillip. Speaking of Faggins many outside of Houston haven't heard much about him, but trust me when I say he's a solid CB. He began as a 6th Round pick, and through hardwork, perserverance, and good coaching he developed into a CB that could start for many teams. He's the NB for our team. I would put these three CBs against any three WRs in the league, and be confident that they'd perform well. We have Marcus Coleman playing FS. He'll be entering his second season playing that role, and he's demonstrated great playmaking ability at the position already. You might recall his 102yd INT return for a TD against the Chiefs last season that helped propel us on to a W. Glenn Earl is another young talented guy. He played last season after recovering from an ACL injury in college, but he still performed pretty well. I'm expecting him to do even better this season. Theres no doubt that DRob and Phillip have the speed and skills to keep up with Moulds and Evans, but should still be a good matchup. Reed isn't much to worry about IMO, but Parrish looks like he could develop into a very good slot WR for the Bills. I'm hoping as the game nears we'll see more posters like CAbills since he's made some fair posts so far, and he appears to know a little about the team his Bills are facing.
 
I do feel that the Texans secondary will be one of the better ones we face all year. You can only expect Dunta to up his play from last year with a year under his belt, Buchanon is a hit or miss he is one of those guys who will win you one and lose you two. From what I have gathered from the fans here though it seems as if you have a very good secondary's coach and maybe he can turn his play around.

It will be fun to see AJ and the rest of the Texan receivers against out secondary also. Clements is a top 5 corner in the leauge and all pro, while Terrence really started coming into his own at the end of last season. Again it should be a very enjoyable game to watch as it seems, atleast this early, either team can pull out the W. But we all know inevitably it will be the bills. :cool:
 
CAbills said:
I believe so. Those teams in the 90s where so great. Jim Kelly, Andre Reed, Thurman, and Bruce all in there primes all on the same team. I only wish they could have won one, because the talent seems to be downplayed on that team because they never won, but show me the team that was gone to 4 straight. :hmmm:
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The Vikes did it years ago. The Purple Eaters era
 
When i said i cant see you covering them all, well i cant see many teams covering all them. Evans has his blazing speed and great hands, Moulds is already proven, Parrish also has blazing speed, and reed is there to take some coverage... You double Eric Evans will burn ya deep, double evans and eric will burn ya all over, double both we still got roscoe and josh, if that fails we can just use mcgahee to run it. He goes down we might have Travis Henry.
 
Our defense faces quite possibly the best passing attack in the NFL twice each season (Colts). I'm not too worried about how our DBs will hold up against the Bills WRs. They definately have a talented group, but I don't think I'd put them among the best in the league nor would I put them among the worst. They probably fall somewhere among several other teams that have good depth and potential at WR. They have a great WR in Moulds. An emerging young star in Evans, and a speedster rookie in Parrish. I don't see Reed having much of an impact, but its really anyones guess.
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
When i said i cant see you covering them all, well i cant see many teams covering all them. Evans has his blazing speed and great hands, Moulds is already proven, Parrish also has blazing speed, and reed is there to take some coverage... You double Eric Evans will burn ya deep, double evans and eric will burn ya all over, double both we still got roscoe and josh, if that fails we can just use mcgahee to run it. He goes down we might have Travis Henry.
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I guess we shoulnd't even show up.
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
When i said i cant see you covering them all, well i cant see many teams covering all them. Evans has his blazing speed and great hands, Moulds is already proven, Parrish also has blazing speed, and reed is there to take some coverage... You double Eric Evans will burn ya deep, double evans and eric will burn ya all over, double both we still got roscoe and josh, if that fails we can just use mcgahee to run it. He goes down we might have Travis Henry.
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Other teams did it last year
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
I wanted the prediction not Cabills

JP is better than you all think. He is good enough that we sacked Bledsoe, our defense says he can pick them apart, and just recently Jabari Greer compared him to steve young.
Buffalo Wins 21-17
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What possible business does Jabari Greer have comparing Losman to Steve Young? What is he your 4th cornerback? That would be like Jammal Lord saying that B.J. Symons reminded him a lot of Joe Montana.

It is entirely irrelevant what a pine riding DB thinks about this issue. Now if Steve Young said he reminds me a lot of myself that is a different story.
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
When i said i cant see you covering them all, well i cant see many teams covering all them. Evans has his blazing speed and great hands, Moulds is already proven, Parrish also has blazing speed, and reed is there to take some coverage... You double Eric Evans will burn ya deep, double evans and eric will burn ya all over, double both we still got roscoe and josh, if that fails we can just use mcgahee to run it. He goes down we might have Travis Henry.
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I can't see you having enough protection to constantly run a 3-wide single back set. While that might sound a little cocky coming from a fan whose team had one of the worst pass rushes in the league LASY YEAR, I see us being much more successful in that area this year.

I have read an article I think it was from LenTubby at ESPN that stated that "Losman would cut his teeth on the Texans defense" on the contrary I think Peek will have a huge impact on this game lining up against a subpar left tackle now that Jonas Jennings is gone.

24-13 Texans

:drool:
 
jppaul said:
I think Peek will have a huge impact on this game lining up against a subpar left tackle now that Jonas Jennings is gone.
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Jonas was a decent LT, was he severly overpaid by SF yes? The guy hasnt been able to play a full season in a while. We have no idea what we are getting with Gandy but McNally one of the best, if not the best offensive line coaches in the game seems to have faith in him.

I dont think we are going to leave him on an island either, he will have TE's lined up with him and TE's and RB's chip blocking his man all day.

In the AFC East we face some great DE's Jason Taylor, J. Abe, Seymour and we did fairly well against them last year, and Peek may be a good DE but no way is he any better than those three RIGHT NOW. He could be down the road, I dont know. :cool:
 
Peek isnt our DE, he's our OLB and if you have TEs on the field helping in your pass protection, you won't be able to run a 3wr set.
 
Until I see anything on the field either in camp or pre-season games Ill hold on to my true prediction.





Until then my homer prediction



127 - 3 Texans :homer:
 
Carr Bomb said:
Peek isnt our DE, he's our OLB and if you have TEs on the field helping in your pass protection, you won't be able to run a 3wr set.
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Vinny said:
sure you can. Most 3wr sets are single back sets with a TE.
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Listen to your fellow fans, some are quite knowledgeable. :cool:
 
CAbills said:
I dont think we are going to leave him on an island either, he will have TE's lined up with him and TE's and RB's chip blocking his man all day.
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I do know what I'm talking about. I can't help it, if you don't. Maybe I misunderstood you, but when you said TE's I thought you were talking about a 2 TE formation. Maybe you should stick around a little longer, we are quite knowledgealbe you might learn something. :)
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Who are the Bills' TE's anyway?
What were their stats last year?
What are they projected to do this year?
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I don't know, but apperently TE's means one TE. So it shouldn't be to hard to pull up his stats. :)
 
Carr Bomb said:
I don't know, but apperently TE's means one TE. So it shouldn't be to hard to pull up his stats. :)
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Oh, I can pull up the stats easy no prob. I was just giving CAbills a chance to gloat a little about some guys we've never heard of. I'm sure he can make them all sound like Pro-Bowlers.
 
Just looked up their stats. They seem pretty solid and got good production out of their TEs. 399 receiving yards 7 TD's not bad. Given our TE position, plus for them. God all I want is a freakin complete TE :crying:
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Oh, I can pull up the stats easy no prob. I was just giving CAbills a chance to gloat a little about some guys we've never heard of. I'm sure he can make them all sound like Pro-Bowlers.
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Gloat tell me once where I gloat? I try to be objective but it is difficult.

Our TE's, meaning we dont really have a #1 guy we have a committee if you will with the two front runners being Mark Campbell and Euthus. Euthus was our 4th round draft pick in 04, great hands and receiving abilities needs to work on his blocking technique. Campbell is a solid blue collar guy, just the type we like in Buffalo. Nothing fancy just a reliable gritty guy. Both were unfornutaley injured in the same game at Miami both with ACL problems! Imagine the luck.

Anyways both are doing well in rehab and reports say should be full strength by training camp. In 12 games played Campbell had 5 TDs. In 5 games started from Euthus he had 2 tds. Not a great good but a solid one.

The real prize of all bills fans though is Jason Peters our UDFA from last year. A 6-4, 328 lb TE with 4.9 speed has all fans :drool: over his potential, coaches have said he is very raw though and are currently trying to see how he can do at LT.

Finally! Our 3rd round TE pick from this year out of the U Kevin Everette unfortunately torn his ACL in minicamp (Bill's TE's and their ACLs, sheesh).

We also have Ryan Neufield is more a situational blocking TE.

So there you go more than Texan fans ever wanted to know about Buffalo tight ends. Anyways by saying "TE's" I meant multiple in the fact that we dont have a bonafide star. Sorry for the mishap.

:cool:
 
CAbills said:
Nothing fancy just a reliable gritty guy. Both were unfornutaley injured in the same game at Miami both with ACL problems! Imagine the luck.

Anyways both are doing well in rehab and reports say should be full strength by training camp. Finally!

Our 3rd round TE pick from this year out of the U Kevin Everette unfortunately torn his ACL in minicamp (Bill's TE's and their ACLs, sheesh).
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Nobody knows more about injured TEs than Texan fans
 
Vinny said:
sure you can. Most 3wr sets are single back sets with a TE.
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I think what he was trying to say was that with multiple TE or TEs and a single back you wouldn't have a 3 WR set instead you would have a singleback - big set consisting of 2 TEs 2WR and one RB.

I think by TEs he meant multiple but since he put a TE's I couldn't tell.
 
I don't think he was trying to say that, but if you want to be nit-picky you can twist anyone's words. He posted and cleared it up. That's good enough for me...should be for you too.
 
Vinny said:
I don't think he was trying to say that, but if you want to be nit-picky you can twist anyone's words. He posted and cleared it up. That's good enough for me...should be for you too.
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Wasn't trying to be Nit Picky just didn't get to the last page and read the replies before I posted. My bad.
 
Houston has won 2 out of 3 opening day games so unless Buffalo is what San Diego was last year, I have to say Houston. That, and Im still iffy on Losman. Plus, Houstons improved in most aspects. Our O Line still needs a good LT, and our defense sacrificed some run stoppers for some athleticism. I know its still too early to be jumping the gun on this subject, but until then, this is how I feel about opening day.
 
jppaul said:
What possible business does Jabari Greer have comparing Losman to Steve Young? What is he your 4th cornerback? That would be like Jammal Lord saying that B.J. Symons reminded him a lot of Joe Montana.

It is entirely irrelevant what a pine riding DB thinks about this issue. Now if Steve Young said he reminds me a lot of myself that is a different story.
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I could say we all have no business talking about the NFL because we dont play. His football skill doesent have anything to do with his observational skills. He grew up watching young play.


anyways, Evans led the lead in rookies last year, Moulds is Moulds, Parrish is fast and can catch, and reed takes some coverage, and we have willis for the run. After they do there job our D will stop ur guys from doing theirs.
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
After they do there job our D will stop ur guys from doing theirs.
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That D didn't do their job all that well against our guys in 03 when AJ had 4 catches for 122yds and a TD.

*edit* Call me crazy (pauses for someone to call me crazy), but I'm thinking our offense will be a little better than it was in our second year in the league.
 
texasguy346 said:
That D didn't do their job all that well against our guys in 03 when AJ had 4 catches for 122yds and a TD.

*edit* Call me crazy (pauses for someone to call me crazy), but I'm thinking our offense will be a little better than it was in our second year in the league.
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Word!!!!!!
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
anyways, Evans led the lead in rookies last year, Moulds is Moulds, Parrish is fast and can catch, and reed takes some coverage, and we have willis for the run. After they do there job our D will stop ur guys from doing theirs.
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Too bad theres nobody to throw to them . . .
 
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