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Head Coaches to replace Capers. Who is out there?

Once upon a time Houston ('88) had Ray Sherman, Nick Saban, June Jones and Kim Helton on the same staff with Glanville. It was another GM and another team but I think the lesson here is look at your hand before you draw. If we ever get around to replacing Dom it should be with someone close to the organization. Otherwise it would be expansionacity all over again while we adjust to a new scheme.
 
People will beyatch until they get into the playoffs. Then when they get to the playoffs and lose, they will beyatch even more. Go read some of the Jets boards this morning. Sounds just like ours - they are killing Hackett and Herm. Poor play calling - playing not to lose - you name it. I guess having the leagues leading rusher isn't good enough for them. Like us, some criticism is warranted (Pennington's shoulder injury didn't help) but there's many who go overboard and jump on the fire whomever bandwagon out of emotion or because the dinger on the microwave just went off.
 
You are right. I don't like some of the plan and I don't see how Carr, Johnson, and Davis are Pittsburgh like players. I knew the type of defense Capers would try and build here but not the offense. Just by looking at the offensive players we have and have drafted I would never have guessed in a million years Capers wants to pound the ball and make the offense resemble Pittsburgh.
I would go after Romeo Crennel. He knows the 3-4 defense and the version of it they have in New England is the best I have seen. We would stay on track with our building plan this way. Crennel is a superbowl winner and always has a gameplan that seems to work against the opposing team that week. I would do something unique and ask Dom if he would accept a demotion to DC. A lot of head coaches that were let go end up going back to either OC or DC whatever their previos job was. It would be a bonus for Romeo to have Capers concentrating solely on defense. If Capers said no then I'm sure Romeo would know who to fill the DC spot.
I would get rid of Palmer. Get Russ Grim if you want to stick to a Pittsburgh style offense but make a change here. If we made only 1 change it would have to be OC. Mike Heimerdinger from the Titans is good but he would probably want a head coaching job. I'm not sure if Jim Fassel has signed on with anyone but he would be good also. Look at college coaches and find someone but Palmer shows no innovation at all.
These are just my opinions so don't all you Capers lovers get all upset. I like the Texans as much as anyone. It doesn't mean you have to like the coach or back every decision they make to be a fan. I think we will eventually make the playoffs under Capers but never a superbowl IMHO. He doesn't know how to coach a winner and has proven it. You Capers lovers will see after 5 years what some of us see now. Playoffs are nice but we had that with the Oilers. I don't think anything less than an eventual superbowl appearance will suffice and that is where we differ on Capers. An OC change could help us but Capers would have to have a hands off approach for it to work. Maybe Capers is crippling Palmers play calling now.
I would love to be proven wrong because that would mean the Texans are in the superbowl in the 2006 season.
 
Crennel is the favorite to be the next coach of the Browns. I'd read and heard a few places where he interviewed fantastically and the team is ready to make him an offer.
 
Once/if the Pats lose soon. If they win another SB, Crennel won't have teh time to put a staff together and teh Browns know this.
 
and I don't see how Carr, Johnson, and Davis are Pittsburgh like players.
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i still can't believe people are keep saying this. what, do our "big 3" not resemble pittsburg players because the names "roethlisberger, burress, and staley" aren't on their jersey's? how is it hard to see the similarities between both groups of impact players?
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Duce Staley------------------Domanick Davis
Position: RB-------------------Position: RB
Height: 5-11------------------Height: 5-9
Weight: 242------------------Weight: 221
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although Duce is already the more proven power runner, they have similair running styles and can catch out of the back field (DD having the slight edge over staley)
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Ben Roethlisberger---------------David Carr
Position: QB--------------------Position: QB
Height: 6-4--------------------Height: 6-3
Weight: 241-------------------Weight: 220
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both QB's are "from the mold" pocket passer's but can and do beat you with their legs (ben having better pocket presence but car doing more with his feet downfield)
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Plaixco Burress--------------------Andre Johnson
Position: WR---------------------Position: WR
Height: 6-5----------------------Height: 6-3
Weight: 226---------------------Weight: 219
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again, both are big, physical recievers that are capable of big plays any time they get the ball (andre having the speed edge over plaxico)
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so how do our draft choices contradict the numerously, stated and very much apparent, plan when trying to emulate the 15-1 pittsburg steelers?

:hmmm: ......just had a revalation. i think the people that are so against caper's plan and the direction of the team are more concerned with "high flying/exciting/fun and gun" football than a real winning team. diversity is great, and different coaching philosphies give us something to talk about and analyze....but when it comes down too it, why do we have so many fans against us emulating a traditionally successful franchise and a 15-1 team that is favored in going to the big one this year?
 
I think we will eventually make the playoffs under Capers but never a superbowl IMHO. He doesn't know how to coach a winner and has proven it. You Capers lovers will see after 5 years what some of us see now.
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Don't stick your neck out or anything. You act as if it's easy to get to the Super Bowl.

There's only two head coaches out of 32 that get to the Super Bowl each year. Plus, out of 293 opportunities since 1966, only 38 head coaches (13%) have ever taken a team to the Super Bowl. So playing the odds, there's a 87% chance that any head coach we (or any other team) brings in won't make it the the Super Bowl.

Some of the anti-Capers arguments sound a lot like Browns fans when Belichick was there. He had a 37-45 record in his five seasons as head coach there and people would say the same thing about him, i.e., "he's a good coordinator but not head coach material."

A lot of things have to fall in place to make the big game - Reason's swiss cheese analogy anyone?

Go ask Andy Reid (a winner in my book) how difficult it is to get to The Show.
 
bckey said:
You are right. I don't like some of the plan and I don't see how Carr, Johnson, and Davis are Pittsburgh like players.
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Well maybe you need to explain how they are not Pittsburgh like players.

My point on this was in response to all the folks that say the Texans aren't built like the Steelers and have used high draft picks on Carr & Johnson who are being wasted in a ball control offense. Well the Steelers are the most ball control offense in the league and what have they done?--yup used high draft picks on QB's (1st) and WR's (1st, 2nd & 3rd). So what is this massive difference?

You know how the Texans aren't built like the Steelers?--the Texans have 4 1st round draft picks on the team (one gained by giving up a bunch of other draft picks)--the Steelers have 9--may have something to do with the different results from coaches with the same goal.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Once/if the Pats lose soon. If they win another SB, Crennel won't have teh time to put a staff together and teh Browns know this.
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Huh? He'll have a whole spring to hire a staff. Odds are if he's hired he already has people in mind to hire and he'll do so. I don't get what you are driving at.
 
DD is not a power runner
AJ is more like TO than Plaxico except without the mouth
Carr is like a young Favre not an older Roethlisberger

I'm not trying to say they aren't alike because I want to make my arguement look better. I honestly don't see the similarities in the 3 players. Maybe you aren't seeing clearly because of your love of Capers and his Steelers imulation plan. If I were going to emulate any team it would have to be the Patriots. They do a lot more with less talent.
 
bckey said:
DD is not a power runner
AJ is more like TO than Plaxico except without the mouth
Carr is like a young Favre not an older Roethlisberger

I'm not trying to say they aren't alike because I want to make my arguement look better. I honestly don't see the similarities in the 3 players. Maybe you aren't seeing clearly because of your love of Capers and his Steelers imulation plan.
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The only part of that which makes even the slightest bit of sense is that Staley is more (note more, because DD is a power runner more than a finesse runner or speed back) of a power runner than DD--and Capers has already said he wants to add a bigger back to play with DD. Without an explanation of why the players drafted by the Texans do not fit into a ball control offense then comparisons to the style of other players is worthless. Yeah take out Burress and put AJ or TO in and the team would fall apart because they just don't fit. And Roeth has dirty blond hair instead of black, big freakin deal. This isn't a love up Capers thing, it is a dislike of silly statements like Casserly and Capers are stupid for spending high draft picks on QB's and WR's if they want to be like the Steelers--funny, it worked for the Steelers.

If I were going to emulate any team it would have to be the Patriots. They do a lot more with less talent.
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Where the heck do you get that they have less talent than the Texans? Just as one example--Texans 4 1st rounders on the team two of which are rookies--Patriots 7 1st rounders including 1 rookie. Sucks being them.
 
Why Jeff Fisher? He is just another version of Capers. He runs a 4-3 which we do not. Would make us change 3-4 personnel in mid-stream. No to Jeff Fisher, although I DO think he is a fine coach, just not for us. Romeo Crennel, if he could be enticed to come here, has coached for, and with Belichek for so long he would make a really big difference for us. But, of course, he AIN'T gonna come here! Shoot! :heh:
 
DD is not a power runner
AJ is more like TO than Plaxico except without the mouth
Carr is like a young Favre not an older Roethlisberger
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so how exactly has davis been a 1000+ yd back two season's in a row without an offensive line? speed runners generally need some blocking to turn corners and for a finese runner to dart through holes, there must be holes to begin with. yes these are exagerations, but like cak said "without an explanation of why the players drafted by the Texans do not fit into a ball control offense then comparisons to the style of other players is worthless."

i'm sorry you can't see past the broken record commentaries of the talking heads when it comes to carr. not saying the comparisons between carr and favre are unfounded or wrong; but if you don't see the negligable difference between two tall, big QB's (with eqaully big arms) when comparing the steelers and texans, i think you need to take your :sbad: mask off. on to the wr's, whats the point of bringing TO into this? so owens wouldn't fit in burress role in the steel city because he's too much like andre and not enough like burress? riiiiiiight.......i think all three are from the same mold and have comprable talent when just judging play on the feild.

and despite how i might come off, i do not, in fact love dom capers. i think he is doing well with a team you could say i "love", you can't argue with progress every year you had the opportunity to be a fan for. and even in the event of another 5-11 (or worse) season next year, i would like the texans managment to keep capers and co. around simply because it's becoming sickeningly obvious sports is being overrun with the "what have you done for me lately" mentality. i get heart burn at the thought of just rooting for a logo and team name than rooting for the players and coaches i get to know, and care about, as a fan.

finally, what is a better alternative to the current"emulate the steelers" plan? would you still be unhappy if we go 15-1 next season? or would more W's make you think twice about ball control and your hopes to "open up" the offense because "we have the better suited" personel? or would you like to be the colts of the future? before you answer, (if we're talking success superbowl wise) think about the post season record while the colts have had one of the most prolific offense's in league history (the last 4/5 years)......
 
yes we need a new coach, that way we can learn an all new system, and pretty much start from scratch. NONONONO way !!!!! capers will remain our coach, and he is a good coach. Get over it !
 
would you still be unhappy if we go 15-1 next season?
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The Texans could go 15-1 but then lose in the playoffs, and I guarantee the naysayers would be coming out of the woodwork like roaches telling others "see, I told you he couldn't take us to the Super Bowl." Then if the Texans made the Super Bowl and lost, it would be "see, I told you he couldn't win the big game." It really never ends until your last game is a W.
 
It seems no matter what capers does or who we beat noone is ever happy ! after we win 4 superbowls in a row we might have a few satisfied people !
 
TexansTrueFan said:
after we win 4 superbowls in a row we might have a few satisfied people !
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Since that has never been done in the long history of the NFL, you may be waiting a long time for that.
 
aj. said:
The Texans could go 15-1 but then lose in the playoffs, and I guarantee the naysayers would be coming out of the woodwork like roaches telling others "see, I told you he couldn't take us to the Super Bowl." Then if the Texans made the Super Bowl and lost, it would be "see, I told you he couldn't win the big game." It really never ends until your last game is a W.
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Heck, under Capers, I'd be happy with a winning season... :excited:
 
In your opinion. Mine differs from yours. It's ok.
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still would like to see your things from your perspective, and im not upset in anyway. just would like to compare why our opinion differs, that's all...
 
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