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Have you "changed your mind" since the Rose Bowl?

I didn't see fans cheering us on to get a first round pick of Vince Young before the Rose Bowl. Before that almost everyone wanted the first pick so we could get Bush. After the Rose Bowl now some people want him (not saying that all didn't want him before) but the Rose Bowl definately changed the way everyone was looking at the first pick. Now that the Rose Bowl is a few months in the past, the Vince Young hype is starting to fade and the Reggie Bush hype is starting back up all over again.
 
LoneStarState said:
All coaches, even your beloved Mack Brown, make bad decisions. No coach is immune from that criticism. Carroll went with what had been working, what UT apparently couldn't stop. I guess after seeing basically the same play 20 times in a row and giving up a lot of yardage - UT finally caught on and stopped it. Personnaly, I would have had Reggie in there as a decoy or as the playmaker. But, I'm not the coach.
Dude, I'm with you, but this is a battle you will never win. I know, I fought in this war also...
 
Frak The Jags said:
Dude, I'm with you, but this is a battle you will never win. I know, I fought in this war also...
I know - just trying to :stirpot:

Some people just can't stop sippin' the orange kool-aid. :rolleyes:
 
TexanFan881 said:
I didn't see fans cheering us on to get a first round pick of Vince Young before the Rose Bowl. Before that almost everyone wanted the first pick so we could get Bush. After the Rose Bowl now some people want him (not saying that all didn't want him before) but the Rose Bowl definately changed the way everyone was looking at the first pick. Now that the Rose Bowl is a few months in the past, the Vince Young hype is starting to fade and the Reggie Bush hype is starting back up all over again.

That might have something to do with the fact that VY wasn't coming out in the draft before the Rose Bowl.
 
Hookem Horns said:
Still haven't changed my mind however have already accepted the inevitable.

BTW, the Rose Bowl didn't affect my opinion of VY, it affected my opinion of Bush. I still can't get over the fact that IF the guy is so great why was he on the sidelines for most of the 4th and during crunch time.

Yes he had decent yards in the Rose Bowl however most of those were receiving yards. I just don't know if this guy is going to be a gamebreaker on the ground or be an all-purpose utility back like Eric Metcalf was.

Why would USC go with a speed back on a 4th and 1 against a defense that is built on speed and not built on strength when they have a 235 lb. RB that is built to pound it up the middle for a yard? Who did the Steelers hand the ball to on the goalline against the Colts in the playoffs? Jerome Bettis, because he is their power back that is meant for that role. Does that mean Willie Parker sucks because he wasn't in on that play (which Bettis fumbled BTW)? Players fit certain roles on a team, LenDale's role this last year was more of the short yardage runs like those and to pound it up the middle against defenses while Bush's role was more of a speed back and was more effective in open space where he can use his gifts, not to mention White had been running over the UT defense with ease that day, so how does that suddenly make Bush a crappy RB?
 
TexansLucky13 said:
I agree with your sentiment.... VY would be a huge mistake with the first pick. The only way we get VY is if we get a sweet offer to trade, D'Brick gets taken and so does Leinart. If that happened, I would not feel bad about getting Vince. But a 1st round pick on a guy who some people think won't even make the top 10? What a joke.


Dante Culpepper & Ben Rothlisberger both slipped out of the top 10 because of thinking like this........... both appear to be #1 overall talents to me.

kastofsna said:
then why would you want young? too easy.

You honestly think David Carr has more talent and ability than Vince?? You honestly think David has more upside than Vince??



kastofsna said:
by the time young is ready to play, kubiak could be fired. leinart is the best fit for THIS offense.


So you agree we should get rid of Carr??

:stirpot:

LoneStarState said:
I'm sure if Reggie Had his way, he'd been in the game. It was PETE CARROLL who called the plays. Everyone agrees that was a bad coaching move.

The "on the sideline at the end of the game" mantra of the VY faithful is wearing thin.

Pete Carroll, the same genius who increased Reggie's role in the offense for 2005, the same guy who has had 3 years to get to know the guy? the same guy that won 1.5 National Championships...... the guy that coached the best team in the NCAA for the last 3 years.

yeah, I'm buying that one.

Then again, he did say he was scured...... he didn't want the ball in Vince's hands..... he may have been so dizzy watching Vince, that he didn't know what he was doing.

Hookem Horns said:
So you think you have a bad coach now? Hey, he won the NC in 04 and before the Rose Bowl he was designated the greatest coach in college. I have a hard time thinking he suddenly got stupid in the 2nd half. Even Capers would be smart enough to have his best player on the field when the chips were down.

It wasn't that he got dumb in the second half. He only got dumb on USCs last offensive play of the game. Heck, doesn't he always go with Reggie on 4th & inches??

I mean through out the season, how many 4th & inches did USC attempt?? I'm sure they used Reggie on 70-95% of those attempts........ surely.

Unless he was just a role player on that team full of superstars.

LoneStarState said:
All coaches, even your beloved Mack Brown, make bad decisions. No coach is immune from that criticism. Carroll went with what had been working, what UT apparently couldn't stop. I guess after seeing basically the same play 20 times in a row and giving up a lot of yardage - UT finally caught on and stopped it. Personnaly, I would have had Reggie in there as a decoy or as the playmaker. But, I'm not the coach.

Are you saying that Reggie wasn't working?? that UT contained him, so Carol went with someone else?? UT couldn't stop Lendale White..... a player who might not be drafted in the first round....... but could stop Reggie, the best college player ever??

Surely the only reason Lendale was successful, was because Reggie was on the field for those other, not as important moments...... but not on this one.

I guess this is the part where we should take the judgement of all the Monday morning coaches, and ignore the guy that actually gets paid, and paid well mind you, to make these decisions week in and week out.

TexanFan881 said:
I didn't see fans cheering us on to get a first round pick of Vince Young before the Rose Bowl. Before that almost everyone wanted the first pick so we could get Bush.

Had nothing to do with the fact that Reggie has been publicly declaring himself ready for the draft since........... what, October?? November??
Vince repeatedly said he was going to comeback to Texas, and do it all one mo 'gin?? Had nothing to do with the fact that Mack Brown has never had an underclassman leave the University of Texas before his senior year??

As a side note, I was very embarassed by the fans cheering for us to loose so we can "win" the Bush Bowl......


Hookem Horns said:
Or the maroon stupid juice.

hehehehehehe
 
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